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meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 728	Posted - 2014.04.03 12:16:00 - [1] - Quote This post is mostly addressed to CCP, but everybody is welcome to join the conversation. GÇ£We areGÇ¥: me and a lot of RL friends, not my corp or alliance. And leaving Dust means, we are no longer going to play it together. Last weekend (29.3-30.03) we had our latest GÇ£meet and playGÇ¥ event. Let me explain it really quick. We meet once a month somewhere in someoneGÇÖs flat and carry our PS3, monitors and equipment together order junk food and drink booze and play till we collapse and spend the night there. ThatGÇÖs it. The last time we agreed that Dust will not be launched again on our PS3s for a very, very long time. I try to explain properly why. The following points are ordered after huge problems on top and still not good at the bottom. Matchmaking- or the GÇ£not makingGÇ¥-system: When we meet our goal is to have fun together. We are gamers with 20+ years gaming experience. Fun for us is to win games and to be beaten in games but still feel some king of satisfaction for example loosing, but still having a good time because of a close call or a good challenge. Fun is not being stomped or mercilessly destroyed on the field. This is frustrating above and beyond. I was taking the lead, giving commands, watch for the team to stick together, explaining tactics, dropping HAVs and evacuating our squad with the drop ship. LetGÇÖs say, I did everything I could to make a win happened. My buddies are not as active in Dust as I used to be and we meet some major problems like ISK and SP. But ISK and SP should be cool, if the system would find matches for us that are somehow equal in quality to our side. What we have found where two full corp squads against us, and absolutely no organized squad on our side. We meet the same people against us over and over again. It feels like: GÇ£och come on, not these guys again! Is someone else playing this game, or are we the only one left here?!GÇ¥ No diversity: The Game. How about something else to do rather taking over the objectives? How about PVE? How about giving small casual groups something to do or having a small chance in this lobby shooter? Maps. The maps feel dull and ugly. They are missing the love of details and are somehow wrong in size and proportion. I donGÇÖt like to pull this example, but we could play BF3/4 maps over and over and over and over again without switching once. I know that the games should not be compared, but if I had the choice, I would always choose a BF map to play in Dust. Somehow the maps feels more polished, more thought through and well-designed. Maybe this is the curse of random generated maps, but this canGÇÖt be the excuse for the dullness and ugliness of the looks. The Maps donGÇÖt even makes ANY sense. IGÇÖm not expecting to see a full production line, but now one can explain to me what these random structures are. Is this thing a star gate? What is this lonely empty building/structure doing here? Pipes coming and going from nowhere in to nowhere. ItGÇÖs like a huge Lego Godzilla took a huge dumb in the middle of the dessert. Randomness without a real concept. Graphics and Sound. Well, this one is concerning me for a while now. Why does this game look so awful? Have you ever see other shooters on the PS3? I know itGÇÖs not a gaming PC but hell they all look a lot better. The sound is annoying in a lot of weapons sounds like toys from the 90s and the repetitive sound glitches makes it even worse. Cloaks. BoyGÇª DonGÇÖt get me started on this bullshGÇª ONE proto scout taking half the squad with remote explosives, shotguns and runs away? Run games like 27/1 31/1 and so on. Brilliant idea CCP! Balance this somehow to a more enjoyable level. And yes we had scanners and midslot modules against cloak. Marked. Why the hell canGÇÖt we trade in Dust? And when will we be able to trade between EVE and Dust? Come on! Trade for merc to merc is essential! No diversity: The Maps. ItGÇÖs the same thing, over and over again. A view might say: GÇ£Well playing the same map and mod in BF4 is boring as wellGÇ¥. But itGÇÖs somehow not. Somehow every match feels different, and somehow the joy stays a lot longer. I can only explain this by the diversity of things you can do on a map. Let this wall collapse, blow up a bridge, camp this hill, and hide in this bush. Apropos bush, why is there as good as no vegetation? It could make the maps more interesting, even the desserts in BF4 are more interesting and more GÇ£livingGÇ¥ then this little grass things on the ground. There Patch 1.8 is nothing special in our eyes, and since we are talking honest here: This should have been there, right from the start, even in the beta. Like a lot of other things. We hope that you have something extra ordinary special to present during the FanFest and the you will release it in a very short time after that. After all this criticism let me tell you what we like about this game. We like the persistence and the potential longevity. A lot of us are sick and tired of every year a new CoD or other FPS. We would like GÇ£to lock jaws into somethingGÇ£. We like the future setting. We like the New Eden setting (after all, half of us still plays EVE). We like the potential (if you donGÇÖt **** it up). We like the art and style. See you not on the ground. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
EternalRMG KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Lokun Listamenn 805	Posted - 2014.04.03 12:22:00 - [2] - Quote Can i haz your isk? BPOs for Sale Dust Player Since: July 2012 Best Assault Dropship Pilot in the Game
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 289	Posted - 2014.04.03 12:23:00 - [3] - Quote Boo Hoo, Dont let the door hit you, give ur money, give ur stuff, biomass yerself, etc GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Liquid Big Boss Quebec United 176	Posted - 2014.04.03 12:25:00 - [4] - Quote It's good to take a break of dust sometimes. I did to, like 3months. I suggest you to wait 6months and come back to finally see if the evolution is good for you. I'm the boss to superpass big boss itself MAG vet Raven forever
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 368	Posted - 2014.04.03 12:28:00 - [5] - Quote It's the long term potential that keeps us playing seriously. We really want our omni-merc to have all the isk ready for the next new thing, and that's why you didn't quite get the Mario Party experience you were looking for...we're all super serious about Dust 514. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 730	Posted - 2014.04.03 12:36:00 - [6] - Quote EternalRMG wrote: Can i haz your isk? Sorry bro, your wallet is to small. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 1415	Posted - 2014.04.03 12:38:00 - [7] - Quote meri jin wrote: Sorry bro, your wallet is to small. Good joke, good joke, but seriously... your ISK... can we have it? He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 731	Posted - 2014.04.03 12:44:00 - [8] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: meri jin wrote: Sorry bro, your wallet is to small. Good joke, good joke, but seriously... your ISK... can we have it? obviously not, can't you read? If some one would get it, it's my RL friends so we can try this game again some day. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1975	Posted - 2014.04.03 12:49:00 - [9] - Quote Your level of butthurt is impressing. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Cat Merc, Long Evity, DeadlyAztec11 and Sinboto Simmons.
Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 77	Posted - 2014.04.03 12:52:00 - [10] - Quote meri jin wrote: Cloaks. BoyGÇª DonGÇÖt get me started on this bullshGÇª ONE proto scout taking half the squad with remote explosives, shotguns and runs away? Run games like 27/1 31/1 and so on. Brilliant idea CCP! Balance this somehow to a more enjoyable level. And yes we had scanners and midslot modules against cloak. This could be a fallacy. There where players that got their 35/1 matches before cloaks. Its the old veteran bias, nothing more, nothing less. There you have your 13ears and Duna2002s. But if you have the slightest hint of a life, youll never beat them in any game... The rest: Nothing that PVE(!!!) couldnt solve. Dust has a too little playerbase and makes too little profit to be developed any more quickly. But I sure hope they dont scrap it half way. The potential is godlike. The only thing that frustrates me is not to have a clear roadmap. So SOON tm becomes very intimidating and hopeless. If there where a public timeline and roadmap, with clearly layed out content coming, we all would be a little less whiney... Hello I am a casual solo player. Nice to meet you. What? Yes, I really exist! Dust NPE status today: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+

da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 652	Posted - 2014.04.03 12:52:00 - [11] - Quote It's not like the Goons being in Dust was good news for everyone however most of the reasons they left are some of the reasons I left. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
C Saunders Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 725	Posted - 2014.04.03 12:57:00 - [12] - Quote See you next week. // Fully Speced Mass Driver Expert // Proto Min Scout // Closed Beta Vet // Tech Guards Sexy Beast //
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 734	Posted - 2014.04.03 12:58:00 - [13] - Quote da GAND wrote: It's not like the Goons being in Dust was good news for everyone. However, all the reasons they left are some of the reasons I left. Goons are not leaving this game, goons never really take this game serious. I explained that, this game is no longer a option for a fun evening with friends. And I hope that sone the PS4s are back in stock so that we might switch the whole system. I'm already. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12764	Posted - 2014.04.03 13:00:00 - [14] - Quote I'm "leaving" for one simple reason: The game is just boring. Lots of kick ass games are out and are coming out very soon, I'm getting ready to start throwing myself into them for a while. I have 30 million SP so I don't really need any more, if fanfest is more than glitter covered lies I may come back for the fanfest build. In the meantime o7 My DUST 514 Music Videos Solo Incubus pilot, superb expert of wallet depletion
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 735	Posted - 2014.04.03 13:02:00 - [15] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I'm "leaving" for one simple reason: The game is just boring. Lots of kick ass games are out and are coming out very soon, I'm getting ready to start throwing myself into them for a while. I have 30 million SP so I don't really need any more, if fanfest is more than glitter covered lies I may come back for the fanfest build. In the meantime o7 Name your most favorite one? I'm enjoying my 3rt playthroughin Darksouls II. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 654	Posted - 2014.04.03 13:05:00 - [16] - Quote meri jin wrote: da GAND wrote: It's not like the Goons being in Dust was good news for everyone. However, all the reasons they left are some of the reasons I left. Goons are not leaving this game, goons never really take this game serious. I explained that, this game is no longer a option for a fun evening with friends. And I hope that soon the PS4s are back in stock so that we might switch the whole system. I'm already. Anarchide wrote: Your level of butthurt is impressing. After spending years in a 0.0 coalition and seeing everything in EVE, nothing can ever buthurt you, not even the loss of a supercap. Ah I see, I understand that to. The game isn't an option for me either I'll be back when it's worth it if it ever becomes worth it. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1530	Posted - 2014.04.03 13:26:00 - [17] - Quote bored with dust 514 . waiting for Playstation 4 to be in stock sometime by June. Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2740	Posted - 2014.04.03 13:30:00 - [18] - Quote I agree with the cloaks As far as getting stomped....get a squad and get better. Saying that you are always stacked against 2 squads is an exaggeration. Well, that's if you're playing skirmish. Because a lot of corps farm in ambush constantly. I have a problem with comparison to BF maps. I mean, BF maps are definitely sick and after the rush passes, that's it. Who logs in an fps game just for the maps? Well, maybe I could be wrong about affection for maps. I know (and not just me) there was an entire community played the same 3 dull maps for 2 years because the gameplay was that good. Definitely need a market....but is that why you would leave? weRideNDie2getha since 2010 (https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts)
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 739	Posted - 2014.04.03 13:37:00 - [19] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I agree with the cloaks As far as getting stomped....get a squad and get better. Saying that you are always stacked against 2 squads is an exaggeration. Well, that's if you're playing skirmish. Because a lot of corps farm in ambush constantly. I have a problem with comparison to BF maps. I mean, BF maps are definitely sick and after the rush passes, that's it. Who logs in an fps game just for the maps? Well, maybe I could be wrong about affection for maps. I know (and not just me) there was an entire community played the same 3 dull maps for 2 years because the gameplay was that good. Definitely need a market....but is that why you would leave? You just supported my statement. Without a corp squad who plays active, you are fuck3d. And that is one reason we are leaving this game for the events. I swear we where having two organized squads a lot of time against us. I hope that the matchmaking system is not putting a squad full of randoms equal to a squad full of the same corp/alliance. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
Mr Retsof VI Thale's Armament Company 75	Posted - 2014.04.03 13:46:00 - [20] - Quote meri jin wrote: This post is mostly addressed to CCP, but everybody is welcome to join the conversation. GÇ£We areGÇ¥: me and a lot of RL friends, not my corp or alliance. And leaving Dust means, we are no longer going to play it together. Last weekend (29.3-30.03) we had our latest GÇ£meet and playGÇ¥ event. Let me explain it really quick. We meet once a month somewhere in someoneGÇÖs flat and carry our PS3, monitors and equipment together order junk food and drink booze and play till we collapse and spend the night there. would love to do this kinda stuff...but I don't know 1 person in real life that plays this. None of the 6 people that I had play this stayed longer than a week. and I've only found 2 others in my entire state that admit to playing. Launch Day+3 Vet--Full time Sniper--Part time Bomber

meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 745	Posted - 2014.04.03 13:52:00 - [21] - Quote Mr Retsof VI wrote: meri jin wrote: This post is mostly addressed to CCP, but everybody is welcome to join the conversation. GÇ£We areGÇ¥: me and a lot of RL friends, not my corp or alliance. And leaving Dust means, we are no longer going to play it together. Last weekend (29.3-30.03) we had our latest GÇ£meet and playGÇ¥ event. Let me explain it really quick. We meet once a month somewhere in someoneGÇÖs flat and carry our PS3, monitors and equipment together order junk food and drink booze and play till we collapse and spend the night there. would love to do this kinda stuff...but I don't know 1 person in real life that plays this. None of the 6 people that I had play this stayed longer than a week. and I've only found 2 others in my entire state that admit to playing. The overall quality is missing in this game. Btw. after the frustration boiled up on us, I asked: "Guys, how many SP do you have left?", "Ok, skill snipers. I will drop you up on higher ground." And this where the matches where we decide not to play Dust on this events again. We have some 4players coop in mind, but if we become more, we would switch to BF. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
Sarus Rambo Direct Action Resources 137	Posted - 2014.04.03 14:37:00 - [22] - Quote meri jin wrote: After spending years in a 0.0 coalition and seeing everything in EVE, nothing can ever buthurt you, not even the loss of a supercap. Goon Logic 101: I just wrote a giant wall of text complaining about all aspects of the game. I'm totally not butt-hurt. Goonswarm: "Because we aren't ever butt-hurt. We have no collective anus." This sums up 75% of the forum posts.
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 455	Posted - 2014.04.03 14:43:00 - [23] - Quote Just go and play BF3 / BF4 and come back to DUST for the fanfest era patch. That's my plan. This game could be a lot more but there is not a lot we can do. Granted random whine posts on the forums help no one however I have seen a ton of actual constructive criticism on the forums yet I dont feel anything is taken under advice from CCP / CPM dudes half the time. So yea, go play other things - feel happy again and come back to dust if and when they 'fix it'.
Kindel Monix SMARTCREW Canis Eliminatus Operatives 6	Posted - 2014.04.03 14:49:00 - [24] - Quote Just keep your acounts open for when you get back, you will be loling like no tomorrow when you get back.
Clone D 167	Posted - 2014.04.03 14:49:00 - [25] - Quote Remember to sign the disgruntled players registry on the way out. The larger that list grows, the greater the likelihood that CCP will listen to our complaints. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1982309 .
nukel head Knights of No Republic 99	Posted - 2014.04.03 15:07:00 - [26] - Quote Mr Retsof VI wrote: meri jin wrote: This post is mostly addressed to CCP, but everybody is welcome to join the conversation. GÇ£We areGÇ¥: me and a lot of RL friends, not my corp or alliance. And leaving Dust means, we are no longer going to play it together. Last weekend (29.3-30.03) we had our latest GÇ£meet and playGÇ¥ event. Let me explain it really quick. We meet once a month somewhere in someoneGÇÖs flat and carry our PS3, monitors and equipment together order junk food and drink booze and play till we collapse and spend the night there. would love to do this kinda stuff...but I don't know 1 person in real life that plays this. None of the 6 people that I had play this stayed longer than a week. and I've only found 2 others in my entire state that admit to playing. This is true. The biggest reason for that is the relentless disparity between new players and veterans with millions upon millions of SP that squad up together and rampage through public matches crushing anyone that hasn't built up all the assets they have. Why WOULD they stick around after the academy? And more important to CCP - why would they spend a single dime on Dust? Call it butthurt, call it whatever you want, but without those noobs this game will never go anywhere. I have played many hours of Dust since the beta. I have plenty of SP and ISK, but none of my friends will play because they can't compete with the elites that troll the pubs. I can't blame them. So I solo when I can, but no one will stick around in Dust. It's sad because it has so much potential.
Wasten SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1	Posted - 2014.04.03 15:46:00 - [27] - Quote oh well one less noob to kill.
Ceerix MKII Arrogance. 61	Posted - 2014.04.03 15:47:00 - [28] - Quote It doesn't count until you Bio-mass.
Leovarian L Lavitz NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 1012	Posted - 2014.04.03 15:53:00 - [29] - Quote Dust Vacation Time! I'm having a non-voluntary dust vacation right now, and boy I can't wait to get back into it >.< I have taken my own voluntary vacation last year, so I feel that I understand where you are coming from. Burnout, it happens. Omni-Soldier Few are my equal in one of these specialties, and there are none who can compare in all of them.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 5457	Posted - 2014.04.03 15:57:00 - [30] - Quote y main issue with scouts is their tossing distance. *1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole* -Title Awarded by True Adamance



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