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Philipp Achtel
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.04.03 16:12:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I'm "leaving" for one simple reason:
The game is just boring.
Lots of kick ass games are out and are coming out very soon, I'm getting ready to start throwing myself into them for a while. I have 30 million SP so I don't really need any more, if fanfest is more than glitter covered lies I may come back for the fanfest build.
In the meantime
o7
Yeah, this game is pretty bad. Like, really bad, even.
There was a time when I could play this game ironically and make fun of what a **** game it is, because the people I played with were so awesome. They're still awesome, but this game hasn't improved, and probably won't.
Players are grasping at straws, speaking about this patch and that like it will save the game, but let's face it. CCP does not know how to make a compelling shooter, and who knows when they will decide to play to their MMO strengths (spoiler: never).
I don't think I've squaded with meri jin or DUST Fiend in ages, but have a good time playing a better game, friends. |
Philipp Achtel
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
159
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Posted - 2014.04.03 16:13:00 -
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Sarus Rambo wrote:meri jin wrote: After spending years in a 0.0 coalition and seeing everything in EVE, nothing can ever buthurt you, not even the loss of a supercap.
Goon Logic 101: I just wrote a giant wall of text complaining about all aspects of the game. I'm totally not butt-hurt. Goonswarm: " Because we aren't ever butt-hurt. We have no collective anus."
Non-goon logic: calling a bad game bad is a symptom of butt hurt.
No, just because you're bored doesn't mean you're mad. |
gauntlet44 LbowDeep
Heaven84 Devils General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.03 16:30:00 -
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it was my understanding that match making was done from latency not skill
battlefield veteran
but still a noob in this world
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
1909
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Posted - 2014.04.03 16:54:00 -
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o7.
Fare well, meri jin - keep an eye on us.
Come back when the FPS core doesn't suck, if that ever happens.
I support SP rollover.
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Vell0cet
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
1359
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Posted - 2014.04.03 17:06:00 -
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Just a few counterpoints: ridiculous number of bugs asside, this is the best patch we've ever had. Gameplay is more varied and tactical than its ever been. Yes there are still balance issues. Some weapons are still crap (like the plasma cannon), others may still need small 2-3% nerfs (the RR, CR) but the roughest edges are already much smoother than before. I expect to see changes to the cloaked shotgun scout as well, it's too strong and breaks the risk vs. ISK when they can be spammed cheaply. Active scanners may need improvements. Assaults need love. But overall, the game is moving in the right direction.
Maps. Yes I'm bored of them too. If CCP was releasing 1 large socket every 3 months (as they had planned)we would already have a lot more variety. We're long overdue for new maps. The overall design makes sense to me. Having sockets and different terrain tyes to plug into is really the only reasonable way to model the thousands of planets in new Eden. They still feel way too similar, but as the diversity of sockets and terrain grows, the combinations increase exponentially. The whole map system feels like its designed for much larger battles. Right now this can be frustrating, but I think when this game transitions to better hardware, we'll see major improvements in this department (trees, water, caves, vegitation, swamps, etc).
Take a break for a bit. This game is showing signs of coming into its own over the next year. I'm pretty optimistic.
Best PvE idea ever!
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noobsniper the 2nd
Inner.Hell
375
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Posted - 2014.04.03 17:22:00 -
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Just send all the money to me so I can use for the noob housing program
"things are made of stuff"-Bill Nye
MAG vet raven ftw
Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft
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WUT ANG
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
164
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Posted - 2014.04.03 17:26:00 -
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Your not going anywhere the programmers put subliminal msgs in the code telling you to stay and just keep crying about leaving.
4KD Minmatar Assault
Weapon sp refund please
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
7808
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Posted - 2014.04.03 17:32:00 -
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My recommendation to you is to take a long break until the next major expansion for Dust. And by "next major expansion" I don't mean Uprising 1.9 or 1.10 or what have you. I mean something like Dust 514: SomeNewName 1.0. The reason you should take breaks is that it helps with dealing with the boredom.
Me and my friends play Halo every week doing nothing free-for-alls match after match. But we rarely play Halo 4 but plenty of Halo 3. Why? Halo 4 has problems with the sign-in process which pissed off the majority of my friends. Halo 4 would get stuck for a while as it's loading just after everyone signs in with their account and even then it seems to repeat the sign-in process all over again even though we already signed in a moment ago. There is also the fact that Microsoft recently forced everyone to update their accounts with an additional contact information and whatnot which caused many of our game nights to get delayed. As a result, we seldom ever play Halo 4.
Halo 3 on the other hand doesn't give us any problems in terms of the sign-in process and the loading process is much faster and smoother. The graphics are crappy and the content is limited compared to Halo 4, but Halo 3 is still fun despite it being old and dated.
But it's not always about FPS games in our game nights. We also play competitive fighting games. Since we also have a Nintendo Wii (not the Wii U) we play also Super Smashbros Brawl during those game nights. It's quite refreshing when you mix up different genres. It helps to keep me coming back to Dust.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
2744
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Posted - 2014.04.03 17:38:00 -
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meri jin wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:I agree with the cloaks
As far as getting stomped....get a squad and get better. Saying that you are always stacked against 2 squads is an exaggeration. Well, that's if you're playing skirmish. Because a lot of corps farm in ambush constantly.
I have a problem with comparison to BF maps. I mean, BF maps are definitely sick and after the rush passes, that's it. Who logs in an fps game just for the maps? Well, maybe I could be wrong about affection for maps. I know (and not just me) there was an entire community played the same 3 dull maps for 2 years because the gameplay was that good.
Definitely need a market....but is that why you would leave? You just supported my statement. Without a corp squad who plays active, you are fuck3d. And that is one reason we are leaving this game for the events. I swear we where having two organized squads a lot of time against us. I hope that the matchmaking system is not putting a squad full of randoms equal to a squad full of the same corp/alliance.
I don't know how it would be possible to match casual players vs casual players...unless there were modes governed by skill points. There are 12month vets that would get crushed by casuals.
weRideNDie2getha since 2010
(https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts)
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el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad.
117
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Posted - 2014.04.03 18:00:00 -
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noobsniper the 2nd wrote:Just send all the money to me so I can use for the noob housing program
Gravediggaz, nikkaz. 6 feet deep!
Open-Beta Vet.
Drunk Night Tree Burner.
This is my Main and Original.
DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
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Scheherazade VII
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Posted - 2014.04.03 18:25:00 -
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[quote=meri jin]
aww so now you and your buddies can't have your sleepover? hurry up and biomass so i can have your ISK. Looks like y'all be goin' back to hello kitty roller rescue on friday nights.
oooooooh that's nasty! actually I kid, that game is alright with me. carry on. |
Scheherazade VII
379
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Posted - 2014.04.03 18:28:00 -
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But really I think you and your mates are experiencing some major burnout and I don't blame you. The maps do look dull like you say, I've tweaked my TV settings to accommodate DUST better which means lots of brightness and contrast mainly.
It is a lot of the same thing over and over again, I keep entertained through having 3 accounts with differing playstyles. Try some older games, the PS2 has some great co-op games, timesplitters, red faction, star wars battlefront, |
da GAND
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
656
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Posted - 2014.04.03 23:59:00 -
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Scheherazade VII wrote:But really I think you and your mates are experiencing some major burnout and I don't blame you. The maps do look dull like you say, I've tweaked my TV settings to accommodate DUST better which means lots of brightness and contrast mainly.
It is a lot of the same thing over and over again, I keep entertained through having 3 accounts with differing playstyles. Try some older games, the PS2 has some great co-op games, timesplitters, red faction, star wars battlefront,
Ya best thing to do is to play new games or old games, I'm doing that till dust becomes an MMO-FPS or at least as close as CCP with the ps3 can get to.
Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
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neausea 1987
R 0 N 1 N
117
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Posted - 2014.04.04 00:16:00 -
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this is all I have a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ.... GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ .... (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ ......... Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ i need more QQ tears MORE!!
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1pawn dust
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
105
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Posted - 2014.04.04 00:25:00 -
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Awesome post actually, all his points where on the money.
The game is ugly, boring with no variety, when it takes over a year post 'release' to even get some racial parity, bullshit is crazy.
Anyways am too invested with the RL cash i dumped in the game and addicted to SP accumulation, am in it for the long haul but god damn did the OP hammer the nail on the head. |
Cotsy8
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
216
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Posted - 2014.04.04 00:27:00 -
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You have it.
Matchmaking - unbalanced as ****.
Glitches and issues - means game is not polished.
Game modes -'it's the exact same mode in all 3 options.
Maps - getting better but will need to improve.
Cloaks - crutch x10
NPE - game isn't going to grow unless there is new blood.
I also agree with the comment that this patch has been the most balanced, minus cloaks. But the gameplay is improved, it's just too bad there no variety in maps or game modes which makes game boring. There are many positives in dust, a bright future for them in PS4, but right now it seems that PS3 is just one bit BETA test. |
Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
266
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Posted - 2014.04.04 00:30:00 -
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like so mnay other threads related to this........more than likley he will be on the day after he said he will stop playing.
or he will cath dustinitis in which case he cant get enough of dust due to his brain getting a lack of shooter thinking. and turn on his ps3 and log in.
Elite Gallenten Soldier
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
728
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Posted - 2014.04.04 00:44:00 -
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meri jin wrote:This post is mostly addressed to CCP, but everybody is welcome to join the conversation.
GÇ£We areGÇ¥: me and a lot of RL friends, not my corp or alliance. And leaving Dust means, we are no longer going to play it together. Last weekend (29.3-30.03) we had our latest GÇ£meet and playGÇ¥ event. Let me explain it really quick. We meet once a month somewhere in someoneGÇÖs flat and carry our PS3, monitors and equipment together order junk food and drink booze and play till we collapse and spend the night there. ThatGÇÖs it. The last time we agreed that Dust will not be launched again on our PS3s for a very, very long time.
I try to explain properly why. The following points are ordered after huge problems on top and still not good at the bottom.
Matchmaking- or the GÇ£not makingGÇ¥-system: When we meet our goal is to have fun together. We are gamers with 20+ years gaming experience. Fun for us is to win games and to be beaten in games but still feel some king of satisfaction for example loosing, but still having a good time because of a close call or a good challenge. Fun is not being stomped or mercilessly destroyed on the field. This is frustrating above and beyond. I was taking the lead, giving commands, watch for the team to stick together, explaining tactics, dropping HAVs and evacuating our squad with the drop ship. LetGÇÖs say, I did everything I could to make a win happened. My buddies are not as active in Dust as I used to be and we meet some major problems like ISK and SP. But ISK and SP should be cool, if the system would find matches for us that are somehow equal in quality to our side. What we have found where two full corp squads against us, and absolutely no organized squad on our side. We meet the same people against us over and over again. It feels like: GÇ£och come on, not these guys again! Is someone else playing this game, or are we the only one left here?!GÇ¥
No diversity: The Game. How about something else to do rather taking over the objectives? How about PVE? How about giving small casual groups something to do or having a small chance in this lobby shooter?
Maps. The maps feel dull and ugly. They are missing the love of details and are somehow wrong in size and proportion. I donGÇÖt like to pull this example, but we could play BF3/4 maps over and over and over and over again without switching once. I know that the games should not be compared, but if I had the choice, I would always choose a BF map to play in Dust. Somehow the maps feels more polished, more thought through and well-designed. Maybe this is the curse of random generated maps, but this canGÇÖt be the excuse for the dullness and ugliness of the looks. The Maps donGÇÖt even makes ANY sense. IGÇÖm not expecting to see a full production line, but now one can explain to me what these random structures are. Is this thing a star gate? What is this lonely empty building/structure doing here? Pipes coming and going from nowhere in to nowhere. ItGÇÖs like a huge Lego Godzilla took a huge dumb in the middle of the dessert. Randomness without a real concept.
Graphics and Sound. Well, this one is concerning me for a while now. Why does this game look so awful? Have you ever see other shooters on the PS3? I know itGÇÖs not a gaming PC but hell they all look a lot better. The sound is annoying in a lot of weapons sounds like toys from the 90s and the repetitive sound glitches makes it even worse.
Cloaks. BoyGǪ DonGÇÖt get me started on this bullshGǪ ONE proto scout taking half the squad with remote explosives, shotguns and runs away? Run games like 27/1 31/1 and so on. Brilliant idea CCP! Balance this somehow to a more enjoyable level. And yes we had scanners and midslot modules against cloak.
Marked. Why the hell canGÇÖt we trade in Dust? And when will we be able to trade between EVE and Dust? Come on! Trade for merc to merc is essential!
No diversity: The Maps. ItGÇÖs the same thing, over and over again. A view might say: GÇ£Well playing the same map and mod in BF4 is boring as wellGÇ¥. But itGÇÖs somehow not. Somehow every match feels different, and somehow the joy stays a lot longer. I can only explain this by the diversity of things you can do on a map. Let this wall collapse, blow up a bridge, camp this hill, and hide in this bush. Apropos bush, why is there as good as no vegetation? It could make the maps more interesting, even the desserts in BF4 are more interesting and more GÇ£livingGÇ¥ then this little grass things on the ground.
There Patch 1.8 is nothing special in our eyes, and since we are talking honest here: This should have been there, right from the start, even in the beta. Like a lot of other things. We hope that you have something extra ordinary special to present during the FanFest and the you will release it in a very short time after that.
After all this criticism let me tell you what we like about this game.
We like the persistence and the potential longevity. A lot of us are sick and tired of every year a new CoD or other FPS. We would like GÇ£to lock jaws into somethingGÇ£. We like the future setting. We like the New Eden setting (after all, half of us still plays EVE). We like the potential (if you donGÇÖt **** it up). We like the art and style.
See you not on the ground. ..........
Ok that,s it ! Im not playing Eve Online no more ! im sorry CCP but this mans right !
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3504
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Posted - 2014.04.04 00:45:00 -
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love when a guy gives LEGIT concerns about the state of the game and all ppl can do is "can i haz ur ISK?" and they wonder why this game is stuck goin sideways and not forward smh
Preacher of #Logic & Godfather of Molden Heath,
Playing better more competitive & balanced games atm while DUST gets gud
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
728
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Posted - 2014.04.04 00:57:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:love when a guy gives LEGIT concerns about the state of the game and all ppl can do is "can i haz ur ISK?" and they wonder why this game is stuck goin sideways and not forward smh its how to play the game.
take everything you can ! keep it as long as you can! burn it when you leave the game ! only a player that lost will give there stuff away! if you where smart you would say " can i haz ur ISK?" as well or remove your own toons from the game out of respected for a better player leaving .
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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meri jin
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
770
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Posted - 2014.04.04 06:32:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:like so mnay other threads related to this........more than likley he will be on the day after he said he will stop playing.
or he will cath dustinitis in which case he cant get enough of dust due to his brain getting a lack of shooter thinking. and turn on his ps3 and log in.
I haven't logged in since this weekend. I'm still enjoying DarkSouls 2 pvp and my 3rt run. On the PS4 the PS+ Abo gave us Mercenary Kings, it looks and feels addicting :). http://youtu.be/azkqiFmFNUA
And I'm not quieting the game, I'm leaving it for at lest past FanFest. I'm not going to be there this year, but I'm going to watch it very carefully.
My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
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Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
91
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Posted - 2014.04.04 09:10:00 -
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I just realized ... the more veterans are leaving, the more accessible the game gets for newcomers ... the better for me, as an intermediate player...
Now is our time guys!!!
Well I wish I could believe them. Theyll be back as soon as they realize that they suck at any other game
The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always.
NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Casual solo
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AndyAndio
0uter.Heaven
81
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Posted - 2014.04.04 09:32:00 -
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This is funny, a couple of days ago, a week max, i saw 9 Goonfeet guys on the same FW match with eve support. On my side, there were no squads or good corp players (im a Dust vet i know whos who) Your guys got stomped (their scores were terribad at best) so before you start asking for matchmaking fixes, nerf hammer this nerf hammer that, PvE, etc, just get better at the game.
This is not a taunt, its just bad timing for this lame thread you made, since that was the first time i saw your corp name in an actual match and not in the forums caught my attention.
Your points about the different problems Dust has are not bad,or wrong but the way you wrote it, and the context... 20 years of gaming experience? LOL just LOL. go play another 20 years of PvE in EvE or whatever you played, believe me its not gonna help you get better at Dust. although crying for nerfs may score some points with CCP.-
2013 DUST 514's MVP and Comeback Player of the Year.-
Retired assault gk0.-
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4863
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Posted - 2014.04.04 09:53:00 -
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Other than the usual "wahhh cloaks" QQ, this is a well-reasoned post. You obviously either:
a) haven't played enough to judge how valuable a cloak ISN'T, or b) have poor enough situational awareness to be exploited as an easy target.
Hope to see you again next build. |
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
1183
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Posted - 2014.04.04 10:39:00 -
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And we will not remember u My 2 ISK
31 Mil SP VET , TANK / DS PILOT
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
138
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Posted - 2014.04.04 10:41:00 -
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I'm leaving Dust....
To get more fruity pebbles and I'll be right back
Saying what's on people's minds
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WARxion ForDUST
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
5
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Posted - 2014.04.04 10:43:00 -
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Goons leaving DUST... and I thought it will be an interesting thread. |
meri jin
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
777
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Posted - 2014.04.04 11:01:00 -
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The reaction in this treat is a good example why so view people trying and sticking to this game. Look at all this hate, trolling and stupidity comments. The Dust community become even more poisonous and hostile then the EVE community, amazing!
No one see the core of the massage it seems. Casual gamers are leaving this ship, and this is damaging everyone.
My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
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Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
774
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Posted - 2014.04.04 11:14:00 -
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To try and respond constructively I'd say I'm sorry to see you go. Less players means less people playing and less diversity. All the points your bring up are of course an issue, and all I can say is that CCP are aware of this - I think it's more that the PACE of change that frustrates most people. Map design is such a core issue and does plague the game in so many ways (more than I could elaborate on here) - but I'd say remain optimistic - the guy who promised us this great game lost his job, so did the guy who did those maps... it can only get better from here. |
Jungian
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
377
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Posted - 2014.04.04 11:19:00 -
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Im deleting my character as we speak. I am fed up by CCP throwing big fkn rocks in their so called roadmap. All the broken promises not even explained. CPM's that never should have been part of it.
I just stream - DUST 514 Live - 0 million Skill Points - 0 KDR
RND_Jungian on Twitch
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