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meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 728	Posted - 2014.04.03 12:16:00 - [1] - Quote This post is mostly addressed to CCP, but everybody is welcome to join the conversation. GÇ£We areGÇ¥: me and a lot of RL friends, not my corp or alliance. And leaving Dust means, we are no longer going to play it together. Last weekend (29.3-30.03) we had our latest GÇ£meet and playGÇ¥ event. Let me explain it really quick. We meet once a month somewhere in someoneGÇÖs flat and carry our PS3, monitors and equipment together order junk food and drink booze and play till we collapse and spend the night there. ThatGÇÖs it. The last time we agreed that Dust will not be launched again on our PS3s for a very, very long time. I try to explain properly why. The following points are ordered after huge problems on top and still not good at the bottom. Matchmaking- or the GÇ£not makingGÇ¥-system: When we meet our goal is to have fun together. We are gamers with 20+ years gaming experience. Fun for us is to win games and to be beaten in games but still feel some king of satisfaction for example loosing, but still having a good time because of a close call or a good challenge. Fun is not being stomped or mercilessly destroyed on the field. This is frustrating above and beyond. I was taking the lead, giving commands, watch for the team to stick together, explaining tactics, dropping HAVs and evacuating our squad with the drop ship. LetGÇÖs say, I did everything I could to make a win happened. My buddies are not as active in Dust as I used to be and we meet some major problems like ISK and SP. But ISK and SP should be cool, if the system would find matches for us that are somehow equal in quality to our side. What we have found where two full corp squads against us, and absolutely no organized squad on our side. We meet the same people against us over and over again. It feels like: GÇ£och come on, not these guys again! Is someone else playing this game, or are we the only one left here?!GÇ¥ No diversity: The Game. How about something else to do rather taking over the objectives? How about PVE? How about giving small casual groups something to do or having a small chance in this lobby shooter? Maps. The maps feel dull and ugly. They are missing the love of details and are somehow wrong in size and proportion. I donGÇÖt like to pull this example, but we could play BF3/4 maps over and over and over and over again without switching once. I know that the games should not be compared, but if I had the choice, I would always choose a BF map to play in Dust. Somehow the maps feels more polished, more thought through and well-designed. Maybe this is the curse of random generated maps, but this canGÇÖt be the excuse for the dullness and ugliness of the looks. The Maps donGÇÖt even makes ANY sense. IGÇÖm not expecting to see a full production line, but now one can explain to me what these random structures are. Is this thing a star gate? What is this lonely empty building/structure doing here? Pipes coming and going from nowhere in to nowhere. ItGÇÖs like a huge Lego Godzilla took a huge dumb in the middle of the dessert. Randomness without a real concept. Graphics and Sound. Well, this one is concerning me for a while now. Why does this game look so awful? Have you ever see other shooters on the PS3? I know itGÇÖs not a gaming PC but hell they all look a lot better. The sound is annoying in a lot of weapons sounds like toys from the 90s and the repetitive sound glitches makes it even worse. Cloaks. BoyGÇª DonGÇÖt get me started on this bullshGÇª ONE proto scout taking half the squad with remote explosives, shotguns and runs away? Run games like 27/1 31/1 and so on. Brilliant idea CCP! Balance this somehow to a more enjoyable level. And yes we had scanners and midslot modules against cloak. Marked. Why the hell canGÇÖt we trade in Dust? And when will we be able to trade between EVE and Dust? Come on! Trade for merc to merc is essential! No diversity: The Maps. ItGÇÖs the same thing, over and over again. A view might say: GÇ£Well playing the same map and mod in BF4 is boring as wellGÇ¥. But itGÇÖs somehow not. Somehow every match feels different, and somehow the joy stays a lot longer. I can only explain this by the diversity of things you can do on a map. Let this wall collapse, blow up a bridge, camp this hill, and hide in this bush. Apropos bush, why is there as good as no vegetation? It could make the maps more interesting, even the desserts in BF4 are more interesting and more GÇ£livingGÇ¥ then this little grass things on the ground. There Patch 1.8 is nothing special in our eyes, and since we are talking honest here: This should have been there, right from the start, even in the beta. Like a lot of other things. We hope that you have something extra ordinary special to present during the FanFest and the you will release it in a very short time after that. After all this criticism let me tell you what we like about this game. We like the persistence and the potential longevity. A lot of us are sick and tired of every year a new CoD or other FPS. We would like GÇ£to lock jaws into somethingGÇ£. We like the future setting. We like the New Eden setting (after all, half of us still plays EVE). We like the potential (if you donGÇÖt **** it up). We like the art and style. See you not on the ground. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 730	Posted - 2014.04.03 12:36:00 - [2] - Quote EternalRMG wrote: Can i haz your isk? Sorry bro, your wallet is to small. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 731	Posted - 2014.04.03 12:44:00 - [3] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: meri jin wrote: Sorry bro, your wallet is to small. Good joke, good joke, but seriously... your ISK... can we have it? obviously not, can't you read? If some one would get it, it's my RL friends so we can try this game again some day. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 734	Posted - 2014.04.03 12:58:00 - [4] - Quote da GAND wrote: It's not like the Goons being in Dust was good news for everyone. However, all the reasons they left are some of the reasons I left. Goons are not leaving this game, goons never really take this game serious. I explained that, this game is no longer a option for a fun evening with friends. And I hope that sone the PS4s are back in stock so that we might switch the whole system. I'm already. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 735	Posted - 2014.04.03 13:02:00 - [5] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I'm "leaving" for one simple reason: The game is just boring. Lots of kick ass games are out and are coming out very soon, I'm getting ready to start throwing myself into them for a while. I have 30 million SP so I don't really need any more, if fanfest is more than glitter covered lies I may come back for the fanfest build. In the meantime o7 Name your most favorite one? I'm enjoying my 3rt playthroughin Darksouls II. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 739	Posted - 2014.04.03 13:37:00 - [6] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I agree with the cloaks As far as getting stomped....get a squad and get better. Saying that you are always stacked against 2 squads is an exaggeration. Well, that's if you're playing skirmish. Because a lot of corps farm in ambush constantly. I have a problem with comparison to BF maps. I mean, BF maps are definitely sick and after the rush passes, that's it. Who logs in an fps game just for the maps? Well, maybe I could be wrong about affection for maps. I know (and not just me) there was an entire community played the same 3 dull maps for 2 years because the gameplay was that good. Definitely need a market....but is that why you would leave? You just supported my statement. Without a corp squad who plays active, you are fuck3d. And that is one reason we are leaving this game for the events. I swear we where having two organized squads a lot of time against us. I hope that the matchmaking system is not putting a squad full of randoms equal to a squad full of the same corp/alliance. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 745	Posted - 2014.04.03 13:52:00 - [7] - Quote Mr Retsof VI wrote: meri jin wrote: This post is mostly addressed to CCP, but everybody is welcome to join the conversation. GÇ£We areGÇ¥: me and a lot of RL friends, not my corp or alliance. And leaving Dust means, we are no longer going to play it together. Last weekend (29.3-30.03) we had our latest GÇ£meet and playGÇ¥ event. Let me explain it really quick. We meet once a month somewhere in someoneGÇÖs flat and carry our PS3, monitors and equipment together order junk food and drink booze and play till we collapse and spend the night there. would love to do this kinda stuff...but I don't know 1 person in real life that plays this. None of the 6 people that I had play this stayed longer than a week. and I've only found 2 others in my entire state that admit to playing. The overall quality is missing in this game. Btw. after the frustration boiled up on us, I asked: "Guys, how many SP do you have left?", "Ok, skill snipers. I will drop you up on higher ground." And this where the matches where we decide not to play Dust on this events again. We have some 4players coop in mind, but if we become more, we would switch to BF. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 770	Posted - 2014.04.04 06:32:00 - [8] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: like so mnay other threads related to this........more than likley he will be on the day after he said he will stop playing. or he will cath dustinitis in which case he cant get enough of dust due to his brain getting a lack of shooter thinking. and turn on his ps3 and log in. I haven't logged in since this weekend. I'm still enjoying DarkSouls 2 pvp and my 3rt run. On the PS4 the PS+ Abo gave us Mercenary Kings, it looks and feels addicting :). http://youtu.be/azkqiFmFNUA And I'm not quieting the game, I'm leaving it for at lest past FanFest. I'm not going to be there this year, but I'm going to watch it very carefully. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 777	Posted - 2014.04.04 11:01:00 - [9] - Quote The reaction in this treat is a good example why so view people trying and sticking to this game. Look at all this hate, trolling and stupidity comments. The Dust community become even more poisonous and hostile then the EVE community, amazing! No one see the core of the massage it seems. Casual gamers are leaving this ship, and this is damaging everyone. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 780	Posted - 2014.04.04 14:29:00 - [10] - Quote Jungian wrote: Im deleting my character as we speak. I am fed up by CCP throwing big fkn rocks in their so called roadmap. All the broken promises not even explained. CPM's that never should have been part of it. Your really don't need to do that. Take a break for a longer time. First Prophet wrote: Cheer up, buttercups. .... My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.

meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 788	Posted - 2014.04.04 19:28:00 - [11] - Quote da GAND wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: like so mnay other threads related to this........more than likley he will be on the day after he said he will stop playing. or he will cath dustinitis in which case he cant get enough of dust due to his brain getting a lack of shooter thinking. and turn on his ps3 and log in. hmmmm? how? trade in old ps3 get the new hottness Playstation 4 no more dust 514 until theres a ps4 client. Just like this guy is doing http://www.twitch.tv/rnd_jungian I'M looking as well, but need to go soon. Hope he don't do it. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 791	Posted - 2014.04.04 19:44:00 - [12] - Quote Vile Heathen wrote: Wow. I would have thought goons would be the last to be so critical of CCP's console creation seeing as how they come from one of the oldest alliances that actually saw what EVE online was like in the early days. Eve didn't become what it is today over the span of a year and a half. Yes I know, but EVE always feel different, and the time back then was another as well. I can't point my finger on it, but the gaming world have changed, we have changed, "the gamers" are older now, more grown up. And I think that in these days, people will eat less and less **** if you try to serve it. But on the other hand, I could be wrong. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 796	Posted - 2014.04.05 13:28:00 - [13] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: meri jin wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: meri jin wrote: Sorry bro, your wallet is to small. Good joke, good joke, but seriously... your ISK... can we have it? obviously not, can't you read? If some one would get it, it's my RL friends so we can try this game again some day. So you are not quitting? Liar. I'm not quting, I'm leaving. Did he deleted btw? My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 802	Posted - 2014.04.06 15:06:00 - [14] - Quote So, Jungian deleted after all ? A shame. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 806	Posted - 2014.04.07 04:59:00 - [15] - Quote da GAND wrote: ....He liked the idea of the game also, and that's the problem the idea is better than the game right now. Yeah that's a problem. Some games have fantastic ideas but never really reach the final result. And then, there are games with "bad" ideas that turn out to be hilarious fun due to good game play. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 809	Posted - 2014.04.07 19:43:00 - [16] - Quote Void Echo wrote: for a second there I thought the corp title was "Goonfleet" and I thought to myself, "good riddance".... then looked a little longer and saw goonfeet. oh well close enough. It is still Goon, the corp exist more to reserve the name till this game become relevant for eve ;) As well as experimenting with the system and giving the CFC member some sort of a hub. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 810	Posted - 2014.04.07 20:00:00 - [17] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Sorry to see you guys go. I am in agreement with your likes. Have been playing video games since around 1977 I want what you want. "To lock jaws into a game". With that said, have patience. At what I will assume is an older age you should know something of this caliber (more of where it is headed) can not be built over night or even in 3-5 years. We (the community) are going to grow with the good and the bad. Right now mostly bad, I know it oh so well. But, this is it for us old(er) guys. I don't believe another game of this potential caliber will make it out in time. There is hope on the horizon my friend. Destiny looks promising but at the same time I'm a little scared that it could turns out like a FPS-World-of-Warcraft. Bun then, there is The District, and THAT seems to do everything absolutely right up till now. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 815	Posted - 2014.04.22 06:37:00 - [18] - Quote Zirzo Valcyn wrote: i tried to leave dust but minecraft and gta online were just as buggy and even more so sometimes Minecraft is a limited solo experience if you ask me, but I like this game even alone. Still enjoying DArksouls2 and I think I will buy Dragons Dogma Dark Arisen. I played the normal DD, but not the add on. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 817	Posted - 2014.04.22 18:06:00 - [19] - Quote PS2 is nowhere near on my personal gamin radar to be honest. Destiny and The Division is. But we will see if Bungie can live up to the promises, I know at last one company promising a lot and releasing an unfinished game... know who i mean? ;) My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 819	Posted - 2014.04.22 18:34:00 - [20] - Quote I can only hope that CCP show something very exiting at the fan fest AND that they deploy it right after that. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.

meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 825	Posted - 2014.04.24 06:28:00 - [21] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: the mere fact OP thinks going 27-1 with a cloak+SG+R/E is good makes me LOL. I don't know why its funny to be honest, this guys played solo without support and where able to run amazing game. What would happens if we all suddenly switch to cloak scouts? My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 831	Posted - 2014.04.25 09:39:00 - [22] - Quote after watching the interview I hope that the "shocking new" will be a better Dust on PS4 and not on PC. I would hate CCP for bringing this game to the PC after we sacrificed pieces of sanity playing and beta testing this "game". The gratitude of CCP: "Thank you all PS3 owners for beta testing till 1.8. Now we are ready to move this game to PC. Sorry for the PS3s lost during the early betas and crashes caused by Dust. And to those who purchase a PS3 only for Dust we have only one thing to say: lol at you." My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 842	Posted - 2014.04.28 05:51:00 - [23] - Quote Thanks every buddy for the participation and hones words. May is going to be the first month since Dust 514 release where we will meet and play something completely different but not Dust. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 847	Posted - 2014.04.29 09:29:00 - [24] - Quote da GAND wrote: meri jin wrote: Thanks every buddy for the participation and hones words. May is going to be the first month since Dust 514 release where we will meet and play something completely different but not Dust. hoping for some great stuff at fanfest maybe then it can really be called an MMO-FPS. We are meeting in my flat and going to watch the stream on Friday. If I recall it right the Dust 514 event starts at 14:00 Evetime. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 851	Posted - 2014.04.30 07:05:00 - [25] - Quote I would wish for the maps to be more BF3/4 quality like. Maybe it is the curse of random generation? My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 851	Posted - 2014.04.30 07:30:00 - [26] - Quote I know some casuals who would never tush Dust again if CCP take away what they have. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 851	Posted - 2014.04.30 07:51:00 - [27] - Quote Orin the Freak wrote: i currently hate, even loathe the way this game is being played. if it's not a full team of cloaky shotgunners, it's 10 heavies and 6 logis. If not that, then a mix of the two. Assaults are rare, few and far between. Commando's exist, but are almost smothered by the scouts/sentinels. Then theres tanks. I could QQ so much about this game it would make anyone not even wanna try it out. But the thing is.. I still play it. because I have some faith left in CCP. Granted, said faith is teetering on the edge, with the upcoming Fanfest as either a helping hand to save it from plummeting, or the anchor that sends it hurling off into oblivion. but I still haven't given up. this Fanfest is CCP's chance to inspire, and reignite hope. I really hope they succeed. for their sake, and mine. Faith is what makes my DarkSouls2 character a beast. Ups wrong topic. Faith is what keeps the games of CCP alive. This even counts for EVE, and this game is very advanced. This FanFest is the last chance to make Dust 514 interesting and attractive again and it has to happened fast and not like in a half year. After the last FanFest a lot of us believed that in the months to come the game will become whole but nothing of this happens, we literately just got a view suits and weapons. Some suits are still missing and we still only have two heavy weapons. I have to stop here or this will become a wall of text :) My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 900	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:56:00 - [28] - Quote So there it is, Dust is dead, and we are never going to launch it ever again. I like to say sorry to the community, because I was one of the people who financed this stupidity. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 900	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:59:00 - [29] - Quote da GAND wrote: meri jin wrote: So there it is, Dust is dead, and we are never going to launch it ever again. I like to say sorry to the community, because I was one of the people who financed this stupidity. Yup it's not gonna be a sandbox MMO-FPS, I don't think I even want to watch their next presentation for Dust tomorrow. It's probably going to mostly be about Legion only. Like the last "Dust 514 Keynote". My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 1029	Posted - 2014.07.12 08:12:00 - [30] - Quote Zelda Harkinian wrote: well.. I would give money to ccp for a BPO... just saying. anyways, hope you have fun playing other games and maybe see you in the future (if legion comes to ps4)? ciao for now. (^_^ )/ In less then 5 Days the destiny lauches the beta, I will be there to see if it's fit for me. What I have seen from the alpha is that the PVE experience is great(!) it will be a lot of fun, that is sure. The PVP looked very nice balanced, but I don't like the "arena style" of maps, it reminded me a lot of CoD bullshit. And there is no open world pvp, and I don't think that there will be room for this. BUT(!) it was just a Alpha, lets wait and see how the full game turns out. Even with this half pvp experience, the PVE coop and other "theme park stuff" that bungie made, you can have a lot of fun with friends while waiting tor Ubisoft "The Division". PS: I haven't played Dust for 4 months, and I don't miss it. Still I hope PJ will make it's way sooner on the PS4, and not a year after the the PC launch. PPS: Am I still angry at CCP? Yes, yes I am. If some one is asking me about CCP products, the first thing I'm telling them is the story of the rouge wedding. @The Jungian, No Man's Sky is on my radar as well, lets see how this turns out. R.I.P. Dust514 02 May 2014 EVE United

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