Has anyone mentioned the Burst AR and Breach AR, are they as absolutely horrible as I've experienced, or is it just me? Why does only the Creodron drop as loot? WHYYYYY?!

Had 20 something burst and breach advanced still in stock since I started out last year. Put them on my commando and burned through them with a KDR of 0.2 ... (my standard KDR atm is about 3 with any other fuckin weapon tm).

What is the purpose of the breach weapons in general? I find them all crappy as ****.

I sometimes think that I was the only one to never skill into the AR after uprising.
I mean I did so I could test some things with it, but never to actually use it.

iirc, new rail rifle has lower dps (~350) than AR with a spool up time of .30

scrambler rifle has overheat and is semi auto

AR is **** easy to use, high magazine, ZERO recoil for the first few seconds of firing down sight and good damage to back it up

Now the combat rifle on the other hand, has an amazing damage profile, solid range, amazing dps to go with the profile and the only downside I can see is low damage per bullet (which translates to more ammo consumed and less damage per magazine). I think that the CR is the problem here.

AR gets a sharp shooter skill for dispersion but alcholic withdraw symptoms RR doesnt wtf. CR gets bonus too, nerf both CR and AR!

Has anyone mentioned the Burst AR and Breach AR, are they as absolutely horrible as I've experienced, or is it just me? Why does only the Creodron drop as loot? WHYYYYY?!

Had 20 something burst and breach advanced still in stock since I started out last year. Put them on my commando and burned through them with a KDR of 0.2 ... (my standard KDR atm is about 3 with any other fuckin weapon tm).

What is the purpose of the breach weapons in general? I find them all crappy as ****.

I still love the AR but the problem is it isn't feasible for killing heavies. I can CR a tanked heavy down in one clip cause of the superior damage profile. Can't do that with the AR anymore.

If Gallente Assaulta had a 10% RoF bonus to ARs, I'd be all over that ****. 25% dispersion is so laughably useless on a gun that's already dead accurate.

Well I think the Assault Rifle's advantage over the others is... it's extreme ease of use. Disregard it's effectiveness, and remember that it's very easy to land hits. Well, I've been using Assault Rifles all the time since Dust came out, so maybe it's just me.

But think about it. Almost all the rifles have something little about them that make them a little harder to use. Although insgnificant, they make mistakes more likely. And by "use" I simply mean landing hits at intended range, not how good the weapon is.
Rail Rifle: Unstable, spool time
Combat Rifle: Burst fire can be hard for some, especially with lag
Laser Rifle: You have to be extremely precise
Scrambler Rifle: Managing heat, knowing exactly when to realease a charge

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Assault Combat Rifle and Assault Rifle are the only rifles that don't have some kind of tiny downside.

TAC was a placeholder for the Scrambler Rifle

Breach was placeholder for the Rail Rifle

Burst was placeholder for the Combat Rifle

They're laughable because it wouldn't be fair to skill into Gallente AR and have 4 variants that worked just as well as the racial counterparts they were mimicing.

I love when people bring this up, It is so easy to demolish this argument.

Placeholders they may have been, and I won't argue that they would need a downside so they don't step on the toes of the weapon they are imitating. However, how is it fair to skill into the other rifles and get an assault variant that is arguably better then the AR? They aren't placeholders, but they are just imitating the AR in the same manner right?

By this logic, as I have said before, either the AR variants need to be just as good compared to their respective rifles as the assault variants are, or the assault variants need to underperform the AR just as much as its variants do.

Rail Rifle - Spool time is 0.25 seconds, as fast as the human reaction time + with maxed operation stability isn't an issue

Combat Rifle - It has +200 DPS for that Burst Fire. I'm sorry but that is FAR too much.

Laser Rifle - I never argued about the laser rifle

Scrambler Rifle - But in return you get insane DPS, accuracy, and range. I don't think it's a problem because of the -20% armor damage reduction, making it tough to use when fighting heavies.



AR is just inferior, the skill requirement to use these weapons (besides the LR) is still damn low, pretty much anyone can overcome the issues and make them better than the AR by a longshot.