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Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6272	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:09:00 - [1] - Quote I know people like mollerz, Draxus, Sinboto, and Moody are going to disagree, but with the Slot Layout changes, Lowered Scan Profile, Active Scanner 'nerf', and the addition of cloaks, their is no denying it. You have everything (and more) you requested before 1.8. Heck, the only things that threaten Scouts are Mass Drivers, HMGs, and people with great eyesight and reflexes. Your on par with other frames now. Can you cut the QQ and finally admit your OP? The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
BARDAS Shining Flame Amarr Empire 966	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:11:00 - [2] - Quote Yup, Scouts are Dust 514's black people... Guess we better get back in our place! Damn uppity Scouts!
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4866	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:12:00 - [3] - Quote No. Just no. I'am in the most UP suit in the game (Minmatar Assault), and if I can fight them then so can you. Scouts are not OP. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ
mollerz 3099	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:13:00 - [4] - Quote The sarcasm just drips... Thumbs up You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6272	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:14:00 - [5] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: No. Just no. I'am in the most UP suit in the game (Minmatar Assault), and if I can fight them then so can you. Scouts are not OP. Really dude?.... The joke is, that "op" actually means "on par". Not "overpowered". The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 18	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:15:00 - [6] - Quote I have terrible eyesight, and I can see cloaked scouts just fine when they move...so I don't see that as much of an issue...(especially since the targeting reticle still turns red when aiming at them) Although I do agree that brickfits, scan profile, and especially shotguns (did they get buffed while I wasn't looking?) make them extremely powerful...
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 4966	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:15:00 - [7] - Quote Atiim wrote: I know people like mollerz, Draxus, Sinboto, and Moody are going to disagree, but with the Slot Layout changes, Lowered Scan Profile, Active Scanner 'nerf', and the addition of cloaks, their is no denying it. You have everything (and more) you requested before 1.8. Heck, the only things that threaten Scouts are Mass Drivers, HMGs, and people with great eyesight and reflexes. Your on par with other frames now. Can you cut the QQ and finally admit your OP? Nope. Look, at most cloaks need a cooldown after you drop cloak before you can cloak up again. I also actually think Active Scanners should work similar to HRV in Blacklight, wherein you hold down the button for scans. This way you can tap it for snapshot scans, or hold it down for longer ones, but you still have to wait for a full charge to activated it. You can stop it from being abused by requiring the user to hold the scanner in one direction for enough time to actually get the scan return, so spinning around with it will get you nothing. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
mollerz 3101	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:19:00 - [8] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Atiim wrote: I know people like mollerz, Draxus, Sinboto, and Moody are going to disagree, but with the Slot Layout changes, Lowered Scan Profile, Active Scanner 'nerf', and the addition of cloaks, their is no denying it. You have everything (and more) you requested before 1.8. Heck, the only things that threaten Scouts are Mass Drivers, HMGs, and people with great eyesight and reflexes. Your on par with other frames now. Can you cut the QQ and finally admit your OP? Nope. Look, at most cloaks need a cooldown after you drop cloak before you can cloak up again. no no no no. and no. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Callidus Vanus Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 263	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:19:00 - [9] - Quote On the internet almost no one can hear you're sarcasm. Closed beta bunny, Veteran of Caldari Prime.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4868	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:19:00 - [10] - Quote Atiim wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: No. Just no. I'am in the most UP suit in the game (Minmatar Assault), and if I can fight them then so can you. Scouts are not OP. Really dude?.... The joke is, that "op" actually means "on par". Not "overpowered". What are you trying to say stranger? Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ

Llast 326 An Arkhos 2694	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:19:00 - [11] - Quote Atiim wrote: Your on par with other frames now. Can you cut the QQ and finally admit your OP? This is quality word smithing right here KRRROOOOOOM
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4868	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:20:00 - [12] - Quote Callidus Vanus wrote: On the internet almost no one can hear you're sarcasm. Unless you use italics like writers have used since at least the 19th century. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6279	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:20:00 - [13] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: What are you trying to say stranger? That Scouts are finally on par with the other frames, and anyone who says otherwise needs to uninstall DUST. The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Doctor Day THE SUPERHEROS 11	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:22:00 - [14] - Quote Cloakers with shotguns are starting to **** me off,i cant be a logi without them constantly killing me I don't know how to run facepalm epic fail
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5560	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:22:00 - [15] - Quote It's true I can go toe to toe with mid frames! JUST like I could last patch, but better! Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 7872	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:23:00 - [16] - Quote I dunno man. My Gallente Ghost suit is dominating. I go top of the score board without breaking a sweat. My intentions is to have a fun game for everyone. If I seem to be biased, I have good hard data to back it up.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6279	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:24:00 - [17] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Callidus Vanus wrote: On the internet almost no one can hear you're sarcasm. Unless you use italics like writers have used since at least the 19th century. But that makes it obvious. The best troll threads, are the ones that require you to actually read the post to see if it's a troll or not. That, and you get to see a funny reaction from people who only read the title. The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 7872	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:24:00 - [18] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: It's true I can go toe to toe with mid frames! JUST like I could last patch, but better! I did it last patch, just that I had to be smarter with how I approach it in exchange for my stealthiness and speed. Now I exchange nothing really... My intentions is to have a fun game for everyone. If I seem to be biased, I have good hard data to back it up.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4868	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:26:00 - [19] - Quote Atiim wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: What are you trying to say stranger? That Scouts are finally on par with the other frames, and anyone who says otherwise needs to uninstall DUST. If you're going to say something At+»m just say it. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6279	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:27:00 - [20] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: I dunno man. My Gallente Ghost suit is dominating. I go top of the score board without breaking a sweat. Didn't you also say that you can maintain a high K/D in a Shield suit? (Caldari?), and grab 20+ Kills with the Laser Rifle in 1.6? Perhaps it's the player that needs nerfing? The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 7873	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:31:00 - [21] - Quote Atiim wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I dunno man. My Gallente Ghost suit is dominating. I go top of the score board without breaking a sweat. Didn't you also say that you can maintain a high K/D in a Shield suit? (Caldari?), and grab 20+ Kills with the Laser Rifle in 1.6? Perhaps it's the player that needs nerfing? Well, the thing is that I'm doing a lot better than my assault suit can dream of ever doing. And I can build my scout to fill the assault role and still be objectively better. My intentions is to have a fun game for everyone. If I seem to be biased, I have good hard data to back it up.
Cotsy8 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 169	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:32:00 - [22] - Quote Atiim wrote: I know people like mollerz, Draxus, Sinboto, and Moody are going to disagree, but with the Slot Layout changes, Lowered Scan Profile, Active Scanner 'nerf', and the addition of cloaks, their is no denying it. You have everything (and more) you requested before 1.8. Heck, the only things that threaten Scouts are Mass Drivers, HMGs, and people with great eyesight and reflexes. Your on par with other frames now. Can you cut the QQ and finally admit your OP? If tankers taught scouts anything it's to Deny deny deny. Scouts had it rough and now think they deserve easy mode, who will disagree when scouts are having so much fun. No one wants to go back to skill being a determining factor in winning gun battles. Scouts got a nice boost in 1.8 - they were a little down but still viable and with new slots and extra equipment slot and more race options, the scout was poised for a good showing before cloaks were added to the equation. Very few people will acknowledge scouts, only cloaks, are UP because there's a history of nerf hammer being to the extreme. It's simply a matter to remove cloaks, scouts will be just fine without them.
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 1052	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:35:00 - [23] - Quote That thinkng may be true of the other scouts OP. There is very little need to compromise their suits But look at the Min scout. Its not in the same boat as them. It has a fair slot layout but the suits systems mean its very hard to tank so you have to eWar. And in that regard it can't compete with the other 2 major contenders Amarr scout is supposed to tank. Thats kinda the whole point of it. "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
BrownEye1129 Death In Xcess Corporation 252	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:35:00 - [24] - Quote Scouts are fine where they are at. The problem comes from pubs when you fight scouts that know what they are doing. They use tatics and teamwork and appear OP bc you and your squad refuse to find a way to counter them. You could make the claim that Heavies and logibros are OP when they sit on an objective, under cover, and you only shoot the heavy that is getting repaired. There are counters to scouts. Nobody is even attempting to run those suit builds atm bc they are more worried about total HP and , "OMG I can't 360 scan anymore!!! The scanner is junk bc I didn't want to specialize into scanners!!!!" People don't realize FOTM is FOTM bc very few people attempt to run the counter FOTM until it is too late. With that said small tweaks may be needed but for the most part the players' inability to adapt is to blame. LOL "Easy Mode" Logi QQ
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 7873	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:40:00 - [25] - Quote BrownEye1129 wrote: Scouts are fine where they are at. The problem comes from pubs when you fight scouts that know what they are doing. They use tatics and teamwork and appear OP bc you and your squad refuse to find a way to counter them. You could make the claim that Heavies and logibros are OP when they sit on an objective, under cover, and you only shoot the heavy that is getting repaired. There are counters to scouts. Nobody is even attempting to run those suit builds atm bc they are more worried about total HP and , "OMG I can't 360 scan anymore!!! The scanner is junk bc I didn't want to specialize into scanners!!!!" People don't realize FOTM is FOTM bc very few people attempt to run the counter FOTM until it is too late. With that said small tweaks may be needed but for the most part the players' inability to adapt is to blame. The counter to scouts is a Caldari scout. I don't think that helps things. My intentions is to have a fun game for everyone. If I seem to be biased, I have good hard data to back it up.
Echoist Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 249	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:44:00 - [26] - Quote Atiim wrote: I know people like mollerz, Draxus, Sinboto, and Moody are going to disagree, but with the Slot Layout changes, Lowered Scan Profile, Active Scanner 'nerf', and the addition of cloaks, their is no denying it. You have everything (and more) you requested before 1.8. Heck, the only things that threaten Scouts are Mass Drivers, HMGs, and people with great eyesight and reflexes. Your on par with other frames now. Can you cut the QQ and finally admit your OP? If they're on par with other frames then how are they OP? I sense a biased post... Noobasaures: "Rawr" Laser Rifle Specialist, Rail Rifles... Lol fail STINGY: Yes I did nickname my laser rifle.
BrownEye1129 Death In Xcess Corporation 253	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:49:00 - [27] - Quote Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: That thinkng may be true of the other scouts OP. There is very little need to compromise their suits But look at the Min scout. Its not in the same boat as them. It has a fair slot layout but the suits systems mean its very hard to tank so you have to eWar. And in that regard it can't compete with the other 2 major contenders Amarr scout is supposed to tank. Thats kinda the whole point of it. Minmatar is built for speed. Speed tanking is another type of playstyle. One of my corpmates has recently started playing Dust again after 1.8 and has had the best time he's had on Dust. He didn't know what suit to run but wanted speed/survivability. So I mentioned the Minmatar Sentinel (which most people think is junk). I told him how I would personally build it with Kinetic Catalyzers and Damage Mods. He absolutely loves it and is scary fast. Nothing like flanking an enemy with a Sentinel wielding a HMG. No one expects it which has made for some "lol", how the **** did that heavy get here so quick, moments. Nothing quite like seeing the look on their face when they realize they were run down by a heavy. I only run 1 Enhanced Armor Plate on my Minmatar Logi and now I have to figure out a new loadout just to keep up with my Heavy Minmatar brother. LOL "Easy Mode" Logi QQ
BrownEye1129 Death In Xcess Corporation 253	Posted - 2014.03.30 06:51:00 - [28] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: BrownEye1129 wrote: Scouts are fine where they are at. The problem comes from pubs when you fight scouts that know what they are doing. They use tatics and teamwork and appear OP bc you and your squad refuse to find a way to counter them. You could make the claim that Heavies and logibros are OP when they sit on an objective, under cover, and you only shoot the heavy that is getting repaired. There are counters to scouts. Nobody is even attempting to run those suit builds atm bc they are more worried about total HP and , "OMG I can't 360 scan anymore!!! The scanner is junk bc I didn't want to specialize into scanners!!!!" People don't realize FOTM is FOTM bc very few people attempt to run the counter FOTM until it is too late. With that said small tweaks may be needed but for the most part the players' inability to adapt is to blame. The counter to scouts is a Caldari scout. I don't think that helps things. One of the counters.....there are others if you get creative. LOL "Easy Mode" Logi QQ
darkiller240 WarRavens League of Infamy 673	Posted - 2014.03.30 07:14:00 - [29] - Quote Its not all scouts, just gallente and its not all guns, just shotguns "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
McFurious TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 681	Posted - 2014.03.30 07:21:00 - [30] - Quote Doctor Day wrote: Cloakers with shotguns are starting to ** me off,i cant be a logi without them constantly killing me I feel the same as a commando. There is a cloaked scout shotgunning me from behind 5-12 times a match. Half Irish. Often angry. Closed Beta Masshole**

medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 485	Posted - 2014.03.30 07:37:00 - [31] - Quote I have bad eye sight in real life and have to wear special headgear to see. Does this give me a free pass to *** and moan about cloaks? PS: This is a joke... except the part about my eyes... and the head gear... I made my self sad. I've been told that people prefer fake smiles over the honest expressions of their fellow men. : )**
Altina McAlterson Pure Innocence. EoN. 972	Posted - 2014.03.30 07:44:00 - [32] - Quote Oh geez...here we go again with this stupid nonsense. Scouts are is no way shape or form OP. It's obvious to anyone with half a damn brain and all the people that think scouts are OP need to stop being an idiot and start paying attention. Running a blaster tank in ambush is like bringing Anthrax to a pillow fight. OP means organophosphate.
GRIM GEAR 200	Posted - 2014.03.30 07:49:00 - [33] - Quote Atiim is right about the scout suits being on par with the other suits, though on the other hand the cloak needs to de-cloak as soon as its been deactivated either via switching to your weapon or manually deactivating your cloak. One day you will wake up and realize that time waits for no one.
mollerz 3102	Posted - 2014.03.30 07:54:00 - [34] - Quote Cotsy8 wrote: Scouts had it rough and now think they deserve easy mode, who will disagree when scouts are having so much fun. No one wants to go back to skill being a determining factor in winning gun battles. - haha.. too bad cloaks are far from easy mode. You just, more than anyone ever, failed to adapt. apparently big time. If cloaks ruined you- well, you were, yourself, relying too heavily on a personal win button. Scouts got a nice boost in 1.8 - they were a little down but still viable and with new slots and extra equipment slot and more race options, the scout was poised for a good showing before cloaks were added to the equation. - yet- you came out of nowhere. Who were you before cloaks dropped? never ever heard of you. All the community knows is that you are a cry baby who came out of the shadows. agenda much? Very few people will acknowledge scouts, only cloaks, are UP because there's a history of nerf hammer being to the extreme. It's simply a matter to remove cloaks, scouts will be just fine without them. Or maybe you just lost your edge due to the lack of EWAR in the game. XOXO, HTFU You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4671	Posted - 2014.03.30 08:03:00 - [35] - Quote Atiim wrote: their is no denying it. Whose is no denying it? Quote: the only things that threaten Scouts are people with eyesight and reflexes. Fixed. Quote: Your on par with other frames now. Can you cut the QQ and finally admit your OP? My on par with what? No my not OP. Please translate into English. kthxbai (I'd post on topic, but the topic is more silly than this post, and that's actually kind of impressive)
LudiKure ninda MostlyHarmless. 74	Posted - 2014.03.30 08:05:00 - [36] - Quote Scout's OP?? BUFF THEM MORE hahaha Solo player.. SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED!
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4673	Posted - 2014.03.30 08:13:00 - [37] - Quote This is my new Scout suit
Eric Del Carlo Inner.Hell 91	Posted - 2014.03.30 08:27:00 - [38] - Quote Guys Atiim just said that by "OP" he means "On Par", chillax GÖà 0uter.Heaven ... Inner.Hell GÖà ßâÜ(a¦át¢èa¦áßâÜ) ... Gö¼GöÇGöÇGö¼ pâÄ( pé£-pé£pâÄ) ... (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+ ... Gö¼GöÇGöÇGö¼ pâÄ( pé£-pé£pâÄ) ... Gö¼GöÇGö¼n++ n+¦ /(.Gûí. \n+ë
Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 1052	Posted - 2014.03.30 08:30:00 - [39] - Quote Atiim wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: No. Just no. I'am in the most UP suit in the game (Minmatar Assault), and if I can fight them then so can you. Scouts are not OP. Really dude?.... The joke is, that "op" actually means "on par". Not "overpowered".
Horizen Kenpachi Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 249	Posted - 2014.03.30 09:30:00 - [40] - Quote On par with other suits you said it urself u sound a fool op. on par or op make up ur mind Hit me with your nerf bat.

DEZKA DIABLO Inner.Hell 553	Posted - 2014.03.30 09:34:00 - [41] - Quote Atiim wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: What are you trying to say stranger? That Scouts are finally on par with the other frames, and anyone who says otherwise needs to uninstall DUST. I highly agree and the funny thing now is that I get hate mail when I'm not even cloaked, just proves how blind people really are Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2761	Posted - 2014.03.30 09:35:00 - [42] - Quote I'm going to test tonight if it's cloaks that are OP or scouts. If I can do just as well in a commando/logi with a cloak and shotgun then there needs to be something done about the cloak. Hope to get some good footage. Links: 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! I make logistics videos!
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1991	Posted - 2014.03.30 09:48:00 - [43] - Quote Scouts are OP. Operating Properly. Drop it like its hat. I´m a fat scout. Do you even lift bro?
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1991	Posted - 2014.03.30 09:51:00 - [44] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I'm going to test tonight if it's cloaks that are OP or scouts. If I can do just as well in a commando/logi with a cloak and shotgun then there needs to be something done about the cloak. Hope to get some good footage. Damn you and your scientific metods Shayz.. Bring forth pitchforks and join the nerf scout hillbilly mob Drop it like its hat. I´m a fat scout. Do you even lift bro?
BARDAS Shining Flame Amarr Empire 968	Posted - 2014.03.30 09:54:00 - [45] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I'm going to test tonight if it's cloaks that are OP or scouts. If I can do just as well in a commando/logi with a cloak and shotgun then there needs to be something done about the cloak. Hope to get some good footage. It won't work because you are going to be seen by a Scout instantly through your Cloak. I been killing people left and right that are trying exactly that. They will then follow you and blow your brains out at close range. They make big mistakes usually. Not fitting for eWAR and running like an assault are the two main ones I noticed. Lack of situational awareness is a big one too. I followed one guy tonight just to see how long I could shadow him. I followed him clear across the map and he didn't turn around a single time... blew his brains out as he was approaching an objective lmao...
Khan Hun Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 67	Posted - 2014.03.30 09:55:00 - [46] - Quote I think its the combination of things that makes scouts so strong.. Compare them to a standard medium frame, they have the following advantages: 1) Very low scan profile themselves 2) Very high ability and range to scan others 3) Great speed 4)Loads of stamina 5)Ability to fit cloak 6) Second equipment slot Disadvantage? 1) Marginally less HP Scout should offer a different playstyle and options over a medium assault suit, but its hard to see it as anything except flat out better. Compare that to say, a commando Advantage 1) Two light weapon slots 2) Marginally higher HP 3) built in damage mods Disadvantage: 1) No grenade slot 2) Slower 3) Lower stamina 4) Very high scan profile 5) no sidearm sot 6) Reduced normal module slots 7) Reduced scan precision You have a very long list of disadvantages to balance the HP and extra light weapon buff. Suggestions: Do scouts really need two equipment slots? Do they really need a side arm as well as a light weapon? Do they really need grenades as well? I would suggest removing the bonuses to scanning and adding a bonus to scanning modules, so if people want to brick tank they trade it for scan dampening, precision and range.
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2762	Posted - 2014.03.30 10:09:00 - [47] - Quote BARDAS wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: I'm going to test tonight if it's cloaks that are OP or scouts. It won't work because you are going to be seen by a Scout instantly through your Cloak. Complex profile dampeners FTW. Links: 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! I make logistics videos!
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1685	Posted - 2014.03.30 10:12:00 - [48] - Quote Atiim wrote: I know people like mollerz, Draxus, Sinboto, and Moody are going to disagree, but with the Slot Layout changes, Lowered Scan Profile, Active Scanner 'nerf', and the addition of cloaks, their is no denying it. You have everything (and more) you requested before 1.8. Heck, the only things that threaten Scouts are Mass Drivers, HMGs, and people with great eyesight and reflexes. Your on par with other frames now. Can you cut the QQ and finally admit your OP? The real problem with scouts is that AV can't take them out. Damn swarms UP. "Stay stealthy scouts." GÇô Ron Burgundy
BIind Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 81	Posted - 2014.03.30 10:14:00 - [49] - Quote I think 1 or 2 of them need a cpu/pg nerf but to say they're all OP is wrong. I think and I believe ccp would agree. The assault suits are in desperate need of a buff. How about you start pushing for that step forward before asking them to take a step back?
Rusty Shallows 1328	Posted - 2014.03.30 10:21:00 - [50] - Quote Atiim wrote: snip Heck, the only things that threaten Scouts are Mass Drivers, HMGs, and people with great eyesight and reflexes. snip With reflexes that are only average my ADV Mass Driver was horribly molesting cloaked scouts last night. Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>

Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2306	Posted - 2014.03.30 10:26:00 - [51] - Quote I wouldn't say "OP" and it's not necessarily Scouts fault but. Gùå Broken/Underpowered Medium Frames Gùå Brick Tank or No Tank Gùå + Cloak Gùå + Glitches Gùå Lower TTK Have contributed to Scouts being in an Advantageous Position, however it's not gonna last long, once medium frames are fixed the scout will be less prelevant. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2306	Posted - 2014.03.30 10:27:00 - [52] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Atiim wrote: snip Heck, the only things that threaten Scouts are Mass Drivers, HMGs, and people with great eyesight and reflexes. snip With reflexes that are only average my ADV Mass Driver was horribly molesting cloaked scouts last night. Those Caldari will still give you a lot of trouble though. Take a Car-9 Burst Scrambler Postol to deal with them. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
BARDAS Shining Flame Amarr Empire 970	Posted - 2014.03.30 10:29:00 - [53] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: BARDAS wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: I'm going to test tonight if it's cloaks that are OP or scouts. It won't work because you are going to be seen by a Scout instantly through your Cloak. Complex profile dampeners FTW. How many can you fit? You would probably need 2 and a cloak to get under Cal Scouts radar and Gal Logi's Scanner.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3730	Posted - 2014.03.30 10:29:00 - [54] - Quote Atiim wrote: Your on par with other frames now. Can you cut the QQ and finally admit your OP? So all suits are OP? No.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6286	Posted - 2014.03.30 14:26:00 - [55] - Quote Altina McAlterson wrote: Oh geez...here we go again with this stupid nonsense. Scouts are is no way shape or form OP. It's obvious to anyone with half a damn brain and all the people that think scouts are OP need to stop being an idiot and start paying attention. The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Scheneighnay McBob Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4564	Posted - 2014.03.30 14:36:00 - [56] - Quote I'll have to disagree with this. For something to be overpowered, it needs to be effective with little effort. Scouts actually take a good deal of situational awareness and effort to be effective. It's just more common to see people put a lot of effort into a scout, because it's much easier to die otherwise. If people put as much thought into playing as heavies and mediums as they do scouts, they would be more effective too. I am your scan error.
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 3486	Posted - 2014.03.30 14:55:00 - [57] - Quote Atiim wrote: I know people like mollerz, Draxus, Sinboto, and Moody are going to disagree, but with the Slot Layout changes, Lowered Scan Profile, Active Scanner 'nerf', and the addition of cloaks, their is no denying it. You have everything (and more) you requested before 1.8. Heck, the only things that threaten Scouts are Mass Drivers, HMGs, and people with great eyesight and reflexes. Your on par with other frames now. Can you cut the QQ and finally admit your OP? ok... so what you are saying is that since they are equal to other frames they are now op? makes sense. Ps: it's not because they are op compared to old scouts that they are op compared to everything else. The community is the worst thing that ever happened to this game. Scout // Tank driver // specialized tank destroyer
Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 1045	Posted - 2014.03.30 15:10:00 - [58] - Quote Looks at name. Joins argument against him CCP Saberwing "Vehicles have taken a step in the right direction"
Rusty Shallows 1330	Posted - 2014.03.30 19:51:00 - [59] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Atiim wrote: Your on par with other frames now. Can you cut the QQ and finally admit your OP? So all suits are OP? HOW dare you claim Assaults are On-Par with everyone else! I am filled to the brim with outrage good sir. Gah, I'm so angry I cannot think straight. Have a pleasant day! *leaves slamming the door behind him* Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2088	Posted - 2014.03.30 19:57:00 - [60] - Quote And we're back to the usual Atiim lol I requested a speed boost, by the way. I didn't get what I wanted :/

Hoover Damn H.A.R.V.E.S.T. Legacy Rising 88	Posted - 2014.03.30 20:04:00 - [61] - Quote mollerz wrote: no no no no. and no. Elaborate, or shut the **** up. "Any job worth doing with a laser is worth doing with many, many lasers." - Unknown
mollerz 3115	Posted - 2014.03.30 20:08:00 - [62] - Quote Hoover Damn wrote: Elaborate, or shut the **** up. no. Edit: now just.. no. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
jerrmy12 kahoalii 780	Posted - 2014.03.30 20:09:00 - [63] - Quote Atiim wrote: I know people like mollerz, Draxus, Sinboto, and Moody are going to disagree, but with the Slot Layout changes, Lowered Scan Profile, Active Scanner 'nerf', and the addition of cloaks, their is no denying it. You have everything (and more) you requested before 1.8. Heck, the only things that threaten Scouts are Mass Drivers, HMGs, and people with great eyesight and reflexes. Your on par with other frames now. Can you cut the QQ and finally admit your OP? Yawn DR all imsee is scout qq Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Magnus Amadeuss Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 641	Posted - 2014.03.30 20:16:00 - [64] - Quote One of the biggest problems in dust right now is that CCP has no idea how to deal with suit HP and the modules that effect that HP. They have significant differences between HP values for the suits, but mods give so very much HP that it doesn't matter what the base HP is, only the slot numbers on the suits. So what happens when the amounts of these modules can triple or even quadruple your suit HP? You have logi/scout slayers who can fill their original roles as well, making the actual slayer suits and their mild HP bonus redundant. Think about it, would logi slayers really have been a big problem if they could only have 4-500 HP at max? What about scouts? Do you really think that scouts would be as aggresive if they had 2-300 HP rather than 800+? OF course you can have 1000 eHP with a scout or a logi, and because of this and the extra abilities that these suits bring they of course displace assault suits as front-line units. While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
mollerz 3115	Posted - 2014.03.30 20:18:00 - [65] - Quote Magnus Amadeuss wrote: What about scouts? Do you really think that scouts would be as aggresive if they had 2-300 HP rather than 800+? Yes. I am always on the front lines with 200 EHP and knives. People really get hung up on their toons EHP. I don't even think about it. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
J0LLY R0G3R Dirt Nap Squad. 680	Posted - 2014.03.30 20:19:00 - [66] - Quote Atiim wrote: I know people like mollerz, Draxus, Sinboto, and Moody are going to disagree, but with the Slot Layout changes, Lowered Scan Profile, Active Scanner 'nerf', and the addition of cloaks, their is no denying it. You have everything (and more) you requested before 1.8. Heck, the only things that threaten Scouts are Mass Drivers, HMGs, and people with great eyesight and reflexes. Your on par with other frames now. Can you cut the QQ and finally admit your OP? Long live Scouts. well, as long as a scout can live at least. ++++Gimme Back my SG RoF++++ XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 4273	Posted - 2014.03.30 20:22:00 - [67] - Quote I'm afraid of commandos. I'm afraid of heavies. Logi's are still hard to fight. Cal assaults are the only assault suit I'm weary about fighting. The only thing that's changed between last patch and now is that my flanking routes have decreased in length and I tank e-war instead of speed. Previously I tanked biotics because the role required long flank routes to good position. Now I just have to wait for someone to get distracted for a second so I can take a much shorter flanking route. It's pretty awesome. In a few months everyone will flock to an assault suit when they get buffed. Assaults are merely the last suits to get buffed so they kind of traded places with scouts in terms of battlefield foodchain. They'll be back on top though. TBH I don't even kill more people than I used to. I earn less WP as well. The only thing this patch has changed is the fact that I don't die nearly as much. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
fragmentedhackslash Arrogance. 236	Posted - 2014.03.30 20:22:00 - [68] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: No. Just no. I'am in the most UP suit in the game (Minmatar Assault), and if I can fight them then so can you. Scouts are not OP. Did you not address in another thread that your Minmatar Assault suit was wrecked?? Pain is just weakness leaving your body. Every day is a holiday. Every meal is a feast.
LEHON Xeon Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 379	Posted - 2014.03.30 20:26:00 - [69] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: I'm afraid of commandos. I'm afraid of heavies. Logi's are still hard to fight. Cal assaults are the only assault suit I'm weary about fighting. The only thing that's changed between last patch and now is that my flanking routes have decreased in length and I tank e-war instead of speed. Previously I tanked biotics because the role required long flank routes to good position. Now I just have to wait for someone to get distracted for a second so I can take a much shorter flanking route. It's pretty awesome. In a few months everyone will flock to an assault suit when they get buffed. Assaults are merely the last suits to get buffed so they kind of traded places with scouts in terms of battlefield foodchain. They'll be back on top though. TBH I don't even kill more people than I used to. I earn less WP as well. The only thing this patch has changed is the fact that I don't die nearly as much. That is what I find to be awesome with the new scout suits. There are entirely new avenues and approaches for flanking that have opened up due to enhanced dampening and cloaks. Always the last person to leave. Always the one cleaning up people's messes.
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 593	Posted - 2014.03.30 20:27:00 - [70] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Atiim wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: No. Just no. I'am in the most UP suit in the game (Minmatar Assault), and if I can fight them then so can you. Scouts are not OP. Really dude?.... The joke is, that "op" actually means "on par". Not "overpowered". What are you trying to say stranger? i think hes saying scouts are usefule and good but not overpowered their On Par It'll help define roles, i promise:)

mollerz 3117	Posted - 2014.03.30 20:28:00 - [71] - Quote It is harder to knife as of 1.8. People are all using ewar that is typically stronger than a minjas, so stalking other scouts is basically a bezerker run. Minjas are now more for assassinating heavies and logis (somewhat assaults too) but they are a scout's food. So to me, the role has shifted and become a bit more defined. I'm pretty cool with where it is going. I basically, outside of a green jar, ditched biotics as well. I'd never have thought I'd have suits with no red jars on them. Ewar is definitely where it is at. People don't realize that without ewar, cloaks are kind of useless. It's the pairing of the two that make the cloak viable. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
ReGnYuM Dirt Nap Squad. 2626	Posted - 2014.03.30 20:29:00 - [72] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: No. Just no. I'am in the most UP suit in the game (Minmatar Assault), and if I can fight them then so can you. Scouts are not OP. I smashed you with a scout lol My SP GAP carries me.
sabre prime The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 156	Posted - 2014.03.30 20:40:00 - [73] - Quote Atiim wrote: Your on par with other frames now. Can you cut the QQ and finally admit your OP? If we're on par with other frames then how are we OP? This weekend I have mostly been learning to scout on my Caldari alt. I love it. Never took scouting seriously before because whenever I tried it I just got wrecked. Now I can appreciate what scouting is, because the suits have what they need to be scouts. I'm learning situational awareness, when to engage, when to get the hell out of dodge. I don't feel OP, and neither does my kdr. CCP has done good by scouts this update. They needed this. Medium frames obviously need a little tweaking, but that was planned anyway. Desperate attempt to get BPOs
InsidiousN KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 217	Posted - 2014.03.30 20:52:00 - [74] - Quote I deny that Scouts are OP. There! Proved you wrong!
Vesperz D3ATH CARD 62	Posted - 2014.03.30 20:54:00 - [75] - Quote mollerz wrote: It is harder to knife as of 1.8. People are all using ewar that is typically stronger than a minjas, so stalking other scouts is basically a bezerker run. Minjas are now more for assassinating heavies and logis (somewhat assaults too) but they are a scout's food. So to me, the role has shifted and become a bit more defined. I'm pretty cool with where it is going. I basically, outside of a green jar, ditched biotics as well. I'd never have thought I'd have suits with no red jars on them. Ewar is definitely where it is at. People don't realize that without ewar, cloaks are kind of useless. It's the pairing of the two that make the cloak viable. All the likes good sir! I agree on using Ewar more so than biotics now... I normally ran two complex kincats on my min-scout... Now on a proto minja I run... 2xcomplex precision enhancers 1xcomplex shield extender 1xcrg3-shotgun 1xproto NK 1xflux grenade 1xRE 1xadv cloak 2xprofile dampners 1xcomplex cardiac Hit & run or hide is all I do. Live by honor, kill by stealth.
Adell Shinzumakami 60 Revolutions 42	Posted - 2014.03.30 20:55:00 - [76] - Quote Today I saw 1 scout take out 2 heavies and 4 mediums with just a shotgun in under 20 secs..... He had cloaking to avoid being chased.. I GÖÑ RoadKill Closed BETA vet
jerrmy12 kahoalii 780	Posted - 2014.03.30 20:58:00 - [77] - Quote Adell Shinzumakami wrote: Today I saw 1 scout take out 2 heavies and 4 mediums with just a shotgun in under 20 secs..... He had cloaking to avoid being chased.. No he didn't quit making up crap. Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
mollerz 3122	Posted - 2014.03.30 21:00:00 - [78] - Quote Adell Shinzumakami wrote: Today I saw 1 scout take out 2 heavies and 4 mediums with just a shotgun in under 20 secs..... He had cloaking to avoid being chased.. He was flying on a rainbow too, right? I saw that dude. BAMF. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Horizen Kenpachi Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 249	Posted - 2014.03.30 21:07:00 - [79] - Quote mollerz wrote: Adell Shinzumakami wrote: Today I saw 1 scout take out 2 heavies and 4 mediums with just a shotgun in under 20 secs..... He had cloaking to avoid being chased.. He was flying on a rainbow too, right? I saw that dude. BAMF. Sorry i used the rainbow glitch will stop right now (gets out magic carpet) Hit me with your nerf bat.
Adell Shinzumakami 60 Revolutions 42	Posted - 2014.03.30 21:08:00 - [80] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Adell Shinzumakami wrote: Today I saw 1 scout take out 2 heavies and 4 mediums with just a shotgun in under 20 secs..... He had cloaking to avoid being chased.. No he didn't quit making up crap. I can slightly describe. I was holding A with a mass driver. 2 heavies, 1 with HMG and another with Railgun. the rest were just running basic assault (Although 2 looked liked scouts) 1 heavy and 2 guys were heading towards A and the scout can out of nowhere and killed the 2 mediums with Creon shotgun (Don't know name properly) then circled around the Heavy easily avoid all shots. The other guys spawned nearby and he cloaked up and got close enough for quick shots. (Which I had a PvR to record) I GÖÑ RoadKill Closed BETA vet

Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1066	Posted - 2014.03.30 21:11:00 - [81] - Quote Atiim wrote: Your on par with other frames now. Can you cut the QQ and finally admit your OP? This part is counter productive. You say we're on par in the first part, if we're on par with the other then we cannot be Op, as we are on equal footing with the other frames. So what is it? Are we well balanced or Op? We can't be both. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
jerrmy12 kahoalii 782	Posted - 2014.03.30 21:12:00 - [82] - Quote Adell Shinzumakami wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Adell Shinzumakami wrote: Today I saw 1 scout take out 2 heavies and 4 mediums with just a shotgun in under 20 secs..... He had cloaking to avoid being chased.. No he didn't quit making up crap. I can slightly describe. I was holding A with a mass driver. 2 heavies, 1 with HMG and another with Railgun. the rest were just running basic assault (Although 2 looked liked scouts) 1 heavy and 2 guys were heading towards A and the scout can out of nowhere and killed the 2 mediums with Creon shotgun (Don't know name properly) then circled around the Heavy easily avoid all shots. The other guys spawned nearby and he cloaked up and got close enough for quick shots. (Which I had a PvR to record) My assault just killed 3 heavies and 2 meds with a light weapon right now Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Adell Shinzumakami 60 Revolutions 42	Posted - 2014.03.30 21:15:00 - [83] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: My assault just killed 3 heavies and 2 meds with a light weapon right now Sure he did I GÖÑ RoadKill Closed BETA vet
Varoth Drac The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 40	Posted - 2014.03.30 21:17:00 - [84] - Quote Yes, because a logi never gunned down 6 people in 20 seconds with a combat rifle.
Vesperz D3ATH CARD 63	Posted - 2014.03.30 21:19:00 - [85] - Quote Adell Shinzumakami wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Adell Shinzumakami wrote: Today I saw 1 scout take out 2 heavies and 4 mediums with just a shotgun in under 20 secs..... He had cloaking to avoid being chased.. No he didn't quit making up crap. I can slightly describe. I was holding A with a mass driver. 2 heavies, 1 with HMG and another with Railgun. the rest were just running basic assault (Although 2 looked liked scouts) 1 heavy and 2 guys were heading towards A and the scout can out of nowhere and killed the 2 mediums with Creon shotgun (Don't know name properly) then circled around the Heavy easily avoid all shots. The other guys spawned nearby and he cloaked up and got close enough for quick shots. (Which I had a PvR to record) I just killed two heavies and a proto logi with all my RE's... in under 10 SECONDS! Then I cloaked and ran away to hide, the end. Live by honor, kill by stealth.
Adell Shinzumakami 60 Revolutions 42	Posted - 2014.03.30 21:23:00 - [86] - Quote Vesperz wrote: I just killed two heavies and a proto logi with all my RE's... in under 10 SECONDS! Then I cloaked and ran away to hide, the end. Possible, depending on situation. But Like I said "I saw somebody" I'm not describing something I did... I GÖÑ RoadKill Closed BETA vet
Rusty Shallows 1330	Posted - 2014.03.30 21:29:00 - [87] - Quote Atiim wrote: Altina McAlterson wrote: Oh geez...here we go again with this stupid nonsense. Scouts are is no way shape or form OP. It's obvious to anyone with half a damn brain and all the people that think scouts are OP need to stop being an idiot and start paying attention. *pats Atiim on the back* Subtle humor really is the best kind. Although it is a bit disturbing the number of serious reactions being posted after you openly pointed out the joke in Post #5 on Page 1. Try not to get back strain lifting all the fish you caught. Also enjoy your new and (un)deserved title: King of Scout-QQ. May it follow you for many years. Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
Dimmu Borgir II The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 278	Posted - 2014.03.30 21:30:00 - [88] - Quote Atiim wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: What are you trying to say stranger? That Scouts are finally on par with the other frames, and anyone who says otherwise needs to uninstall DUST. I tried deleting dust in fact my brain really wants me to delete it but my heart won't let me, it's certainly more than just a simple addiction, i think it's love. Blue is good, red is bad, orange you glad you're not red?
jerrmy12 kahoalii 782	Posted - 2014.03.30 21:42:00 - [89] - Quote Adell Shinzumakami wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: My assault just killed 3 heavies and 2 meds with a light weapon right now Sure he did Exactly Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7740	Posted - 2014.03.30 21:46:00 - [90] - Quote No. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor

PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 76	Posted - 2014.03.30 23:29:00 - [91] - Quote Atiim wrote: I know people like mollerz, Draxus, Sinboto, and Moody are going to disagree, but with the Slot Layout changes, Lowered Scan Profile, Active Scanner 'nerf', and the addition of cloaks, their is no denying it. You have everything (and more) you requested before 1.8. Heck, the only things that threaten Scouts are Mass Drivers, HMGs, and people with great eyesight and reflexes. Your on par with other frames now. Can you cut the QQ and finally admit your OP? There is denying it, NO. There not. I passively scan cloaked scouts and can see them anyway half the time. They are not OP. EDiT: and did i mention i killed a cloaked scout from 150m with only a rough idea of where he was. -Open Beta Vet 19 mil sp- Laser+Flaylock Dust 514 recruitment link here.
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1543	Posted - 2014.03.30 23:32:00 - [92] - Quote Atiim wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: No. Just no. I'am in the most UP suit in the game (Minmatar Assault), and if I can fight them then so can you. Scouts are not OP. Really dude?.... The joke is, that "op" actually means "on par". Not "overpowered". You just blew my mind. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
thesupertman Better Hide R Die 253	Posted - 2014.03.30 23:41:00 - [93] - Quote I don't know if scouts are OP, but they are annoying. Cloaks are annoying too. The new commandos should have a better paint job. Look at the Amarr one! 1.8 is fun. Cant wait for the new build!
Egonz4 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 179	Posted - 2014.03.30 23:55:00 - [94] - Quote Atiim wrote: I know people like mollerz, Draxus, Sinboto, and Moody are going to disagree, but with the Slot Layout changes, Lowered Scan Profile, Active Scanner 'nerf', and the addition of cloaks, their is no denying it. You have everything (and more) you requested before 1.8. Heck, the only things that threaten Scouts are Mass Drivers, HMGs, and people with great eyesight and reflexes. Your on par with other frames now. Can you cut the QQ and finally admit your OP? If u think they're op then u r just lame. But seriously they are not if u are tactical BORN CALDARI
Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 91	Posted - 2014.03.31 00:04:00 - [95] - Quote Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: I have terrible eyesight, and I can see cloaked scouts just fine when they move...so I don't see that as much of an issue...(especially since the targeting reticle still turns red when aiming at them) Although I do agree that brickfits, scan profile, and especially shotguns (did they get buffed while I wasn't looking?) make them extremely powerful... I was going to start a thread asking about shotguns. I was in a dren sentinel suit last night with armor and shield both at 5 but admittedly no shield extenders or armor plates (but that means still over 1,000 HP) and nothing leveled into dropsuit command, and a scout was taking me out in 2-3 shots with an adv shotgun.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1278	Posted - 2014.03.31 00:06:00 - [96] - Quote People still dont realize assaults need a buff?
Black SlaverX Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 92	Posted - 2014.03.31 00:11:00 - [97] - Quote Thang Bausch wrote: Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: I have terrible eyesight, and I can see cloaked scouts just fine when they move...so I don't see that as much of an issue...(especially since the targeting reticle still turns red when aiming at them) Although I do agree that brickfits, scan profile, and especially shotguns (did they get buffed while I wasn't looking?) make them extremely powerful... I was going to start a thread asking about shotguns. I was in a dren sentinel suit last night with armor and shield both at 5 but admittedly no shield extenders or armor plates (but that means still over 1,000 HP) and nothing leveled into dropsuit command, and a scout was taking me out in 2-3 shots with an adv shotgun. Yep, shotgun + invisibility = overpowered gank-a-thon. Scouts need: Damage automatically decloaks Cooldown between cloaks Cooldown after cloak before firing. (unless decloaked through damage. ) Watch your back because I might be there.
Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 91	Posted - 2014.03.31 00:12:00 - [98] - Quote I'm getting killed by more of them, but then again, they used to be so UP that I don't think many people were running with them. As far as the cloaks, I thought they would be more painful. I've only played 1.8 for 6 hours or so, but have spotted and killed a number of cloaked scouts. I even killed a cloaked scout at a distance with the laser rifle. I was running with a basic (only lvl 1) MD a lot and have found it good against scouts unless they are running with a shotgun and then its game over because that weapon is crazy deadly now.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 3968	Posted - 2014.03.31 00:20:00 - [99] - Quote Atiim wrote: I know people like mollerz, Draxus, Sinboto, and Moody are going to disagree, but with the Slot Layout changes, Lowered Scan Profile, Active Scanner 'nerf', and the addition of cloaks, their is no denying it. You have everything (and more) you requested before 1.8. Heck, the only things that threaten Scouts are Mass Drivers, HMGs, and people with great eyesight and reflexes. Your on par with other frames now. Can you cut the QQ and finally admit your OP? Min Scout is still far from OP Powerful? Yes. OP. Hell no. I can't vouch for the other scouts though. I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6309	Posted - 2014.03.31 17:57:00 - [100] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: No. Yes. The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND



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