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Hoover Damn
H.A.R.V.E.S.T.
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:04:00 -
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mollerz wrote:no no no no.
and no.
Elaborate, or shut the **** up.
"Any job worth doing with a laser is worth doing with many, many lasers." - Unknown
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mollerz
3115
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:08:00 -
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Hoover Damn wrote:
Elaborate, or shut the **** up.
no.
Edit: now just..
no.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
780
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:09:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I know people like mollerz, Draxus, Sinboto, and Moody are going to disagree, but with the Slot Layout changes, Lowered Scan Profile, Active Scanner 'nerf', and the addition of cloaks, their is no denying it.
You have everything (and more) you requested before 1.8. Heck, the only things that threaten Scouts are Mass Drivers, HMGs, and people with great eyesight and reflexes.
Your on par with other frames now. Can you cut the QQ and finally admit your OP?
Yawn DR all imsee is scout qq
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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Magnus Amadeuss
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
641
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:16:00 -
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One of the biggest problems in dust right now is that CCP has no idea how to deal with suit HP and the modules that effect that HP.
They have significant differences between HP values for the suits, but mods give so very much HP that it doesn't matter what the base HP is, only the slot numbers on the suits.
So what happens when the amounts of these modules can triple or even quadruple your suit HP? You have logi/scout slayers who can fill their original roles as well, making the actual slayer suits and their mild HP bonus redundant.
Think about it, would logi slayers really have been a big problem if they could only have 4-500 HP at max?
What about scouts? Do you really think that scouts would be as aggresive if they had 2-300 HP rather than 800+?
OF course you can have 1000 eHP with a scout or a logi, and because of this and the extra abilities that these suits bring they of course displace assault suits as front-line units.
While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
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mollerz
3115
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:18:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:
What about scouts? Do you really think that scouts would be as aggresive if they had 2-300 HP rather than 800+?
Yes. I am always on the front lines with 200 EHP and knives.
People really get hung up on their toons EHP. I don't even think about it.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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J0LLY R0G3R
Dirt Nap Squad.
680
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:19:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I know people like mollerz, Draxus, Sinboto, and Moody are going to disagree, but with the Slot Layout changes, Lowered Scan Profile, Active Scanner 'nerf', and the addition of cloaks, their is no denying it.
You have everything (and more) you requested before 1.8. Heck, the only things that threaten Scouts are Mass Drivers, HMGs, and people with great eyesight and reflexes.
Your on par with other frames now. Can you cut the QQ and finally admit your OP?
Long live Scouts.
well, as long as a scout can live at least.
++++Gimme Back my SG RoF++++
XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
4273
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:22:00 -
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I'm afraid of commandos. I'm afraid of heavies. Logi's are still hard to fight. Cal assaults are the only assault suit I'm weary about fighting.
The only thing that's changed between last patch and now is that my flanking routes have decreased in length and I tank e-war instead of speed. Previously I tanked biotics because the role required long flank routes to good position. Now I just have to wait for someone to get distracted for a second so I can take a much shorter flanking route. It's pretty awesome.
In a few months everyone will flock to an assault suit when they get buffed. Assaults are merely the last suits to get buffed so they kind of traded places with scouts in terms of battlefield foodchain. They'll be back on top though.
TBH I don't even kill more people than I used to. I earn less WP as well. The only thing this patch has changed is the fact that I don't die nearly as much.
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fragmentedhackslash
Arrogance.
236
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:22:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:No.
Just no.
I'am in the most UP suit in the game (Minmatar Assault), and if I can fight them then so can you. Scouts are not OP.
Did you not address in another thread that your Minmatar Assault suit was wrecked??
Pain is just weakness leaving your body.
Every day is a holiday.
Every meal is a feast.
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LEHON Xeon
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
379
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:26:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:I'm afraid of commandos. I'm afraid of heavies. Logi's are still hard to fight. Cal assaults are the only assault suit I'm weary about fighting.
The only thing that's changed between last patch and now is that my flanking routes have decreased in length and I tank e-war instead of speed. Previously I tanked biotics because the role required long flank routes to good position. Now I just have to wait for someone to get distracted for a second so I can take a much shorter flanking route. It's pretty awesome.
In a few months everyone will flock to an assault suit when they get buffed. Assaults are merely the last suits to get buffed so they kind of traded places with scouts in terms of battlefield foodchain. They'll be back on top though.
TBH I don't even kill more people than I used to. I earn less WP as well. The only thing this patch has changed is the fact that I don't die nearly as much.
That is what I find to be awesome with the new scout suits. There are entirely new avenues and approaches for flanking that have opened up due to enhanced dampening and cloaks.
Always the last person to leave. Always the one cleaning up people's messes.
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
593
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:27:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Atiim wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:No.
Just no.
I'am in the most UP suit in the game (Minmatar Assault), and if I can fight them then so can you. Scouts are not OP. Really dude?.... The joke is, that "op" actually means "on par". Not "overpowered". What are you trying to say stranger?
i think hes saying scouts are usefule and good but not overpowered their On Par
It'll help define roles, i promise:)
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mollerz
3117
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:28:00 -
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It is harder to knife as of 1.8. People are all using ewar that is typically stronger than a minjas, so stalking other scouts is basically a bezerker run.
Minjas are now more for assassinating heavies and logis (somewhat assaults too) but they are a scout's food. So to me, the role has shifted and become a bit more defined. I'm pretty cool with where it is going.
I basically, outside of a green jar, ditched biotics as well. I'd never have thought I'd have suits with no red jars on them. Ewar is definitely where it is at. People don't realize that without ewar, cloaks are kind of useless. It's the pairing of the two that make the cloak viable.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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ReGnYuM
Dirt Nap Squad.
2626
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:29:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:No.
Just no.
I'am in the most UP suit in the game (Minmatar Assault), and if I can fight them then so can you. Scouts are not OP.
I smashed you with a scout lol
My SP GAP carries me.
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sabre prime
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
156
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:40:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Your on par with other frames now. Can you cut the QQ and finally admit your OP?
If we're on par with other frames then how are we OP?
This weekend I have mostly been learning to scout on my Caldari alt. I love it. Never took scouting seriously before because whenever I tried it I just got wrecked. Now I can appreciate what scouting is, because the suits have what they need to be scouts. I'm learning situational awareness, when to engage, when to get the hell out of dodge. I don't feel OP, and neither does my kdr.
CCP has done good by scouts this update. They needed this. Medium frames obviously need a little tweaking, but that was planned anyway.
Desperate attempt to get BPOs
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InsidiousN
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
217
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:52:00 -
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I deny that Scouts are OP. There! Proved you wrong! |
Vesperz
D3ATH CARD
62
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:54:00 -
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mollerz wrote:It is harder to knife as of 1.8. People are all using ewar that is typically stronger than a minjas, so stalking other scouts is basically a bezerker run.
Minjas are now more for assassinating heavies and logis (somewhat assaults too) but they are a scout's food. So to me, the role has shifted and become a bit more defined. I'm pretty cool with where it is going.
I basically, outside of a green jar, ditched biotics as well. I'd never have thought I'd have suits with no red jars on them. Ewar is definitely where it is at. People don't realize that without ewar, cloaks are kind of useless. It's the pairing of the two that make the cloak viable.
All the likes good sir! I agree on using Ewar more so than biotics now... I normally ran two complex kincats on my min-scout...
Now on a proto minja I run...
2xcomplex precision enhancers
1xcomplex shield extender
1xcrg3-shotgun
1xproto NK
1xflux grenade
1xRE
1xadv cloak
2xprofile dampners
1xcomplex cardiac
Hit & run or hide is all I do. 
Live by honor, kill by stealth.
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Adell Shinzumakami
60 Revolutions
42
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:55:00 -
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Today I saw 1 scout take out 2 heavies and 4 mediums with just a shotgun in under 20 secs..... He had cloaking to avoid being chased..
I GÖÑ RoadKill
Closed BETA vet
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
780
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:58:00 -
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Adell Shinzumakami wrote:Today I saw 1 scout take out 2 heavies and 4 mediums with just a shotgun in under 20 secs..... He had cloaking to avoid being chased..
No he didn't quit making up crap.
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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mollerz
3122
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Posted - 2014.03.30 21:00:00 -
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Adell Shinzumakami wrote:Today I saw 1 scout take out 2 heavies and 4 mediums with just a shotgun in under 20 secs..... He had cloaking to avoid being chased..
He was flying on a rainbow too, right? I saw that dude.
BAMF.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Horizen Kenpachi
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
249
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Posted - 2014.03.30 21:07:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Adell Shinzumakami wrote:Today I saw 1 scout take out 2 heavies and 4 mediums with just a shotgun in under 20 secs..... He had cloaking to avoid being chased.. He was flying on a rainbow too, right? I saw that dude. BAMF.
Sorry i used the rainbow glitch will stop right now (gets out magic carpet)
Hit me with your nerf bat.
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Adell Shinzumakami
60 Revolutions
42
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Posted - 2014.03.30 21:08:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Adell Shinzumakami wrote:Today I saw 1 scout take out 2 heavies and 4 mediums with just a shotgun in under 20 secs..... He had cloaking to avoid being chased.. No he didn't quit making up crap.
I can slightly describe.
I was holding A with a mass driver. 2 heavies, 1 with HMG and another with Railgun. the rest were just running basic assault (Although 2 looked liked scouts)
1 heavy and 2 guys were heading towards A and the scout can out of nowhere and killed the 2 mediums with Creon shotgun (Don't know name properly) then circled around the Heavy easily avoid all shots. The other guys spawned nearby and he cloaked up and got close enough for quick shots. (Which I had a PvR to record)
I GÖÑ RoadKill
Closed BETA vet
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
1066
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Posted - 2014.03.30 21:11:00 -
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Atiim wrote:
Your on par with other frames now. Can you cut the QQ and finally admit your OP?
This part is counter productive.
You say we're on par in the first part, if we're on par with the other then we cannot be Op, as we are on equal footing with the other frames.
So what is it? Are we well balanced or Op?
We can't be both.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
782
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Posted - 2014.03.30 21:12:00 -
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Adell Shinzumakami wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Adell Shinzumakami wrote:Today I saw 1 scout take out 2 heavies and 4 mediums with just a shotgun in under 20 secs..... He had cloaking to avoid being chased.. No he didn't quit making up crap. I can slightly describe. I was holding A with a mass driver. 2 heavies, 1 with HMG and another with Railgun. the rest were just running basic assault (Although 2 looked liked scouts) 1 heavy and 2 guys were heading towards A and the scout can out of nowhere and killed the 2 mediums with Creon shotgun (Don't know name properly) then circled around the Heavy easily avoid all shots. The other guys spawned nearby and he cloaked up and got close enough for quick shots. (Which I had a PvR to record)
My assault just killed 3 heavies and 2 meds with a light weapon right now
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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Adell Shinzumakami
60 Revolutions
42
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Posted - 2014.03.30 21:15:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:My assault just killed 3 heavies and 2 meds with a light weapon right now
Sure he did
I GÖÑ RoadKill
Closed BETA vet
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Varoth Drac
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
40
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Posted - 2014.03.30 21:17:00 -
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Yes, because a logi never gunned down 6 people in 20 seconds with a combat rifle. |
Vesperz
D3ATH CARD
63
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Posted - 2014.03.30 21:19:00 -
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Adell Shinzumakami wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Adell Shinzumakami wrote:Today I saw 1 scout take out 2 heavies and 4 mediums with just a shotgun in under 20 secs..... He had cloaking to avoid being chased.. No he didn't quit making up crap. I can slightly describe. I was holding A with a mass driver. 2 heavies, 1 with HMG and another with Railgun. the rest were just running basic assault (Although 2 looked liked scouts) 1 heavy and 2 guys were heading towards A and the scout can out of nowhere and killed the 2 mediums with Creon shotgun (Don't know name properly) then circled around the Heavy easily avoid all shots. The other guys spawned nearby and he cloaked up and got close enough for quick shots. (Which I had a PvR to record)
I just killed two heavies and a proto logi with all my RE's... in under 10 SECONDS!  Then I cloaked and ran away to hide, the end.
Live by honor, kill by stealth.
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Adell Shinzumakami
60 Revolutions
42
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Posted - 2014.03.30 21:23:00 -
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Vesperz wrote:I just killed two heavies and a proto logi with all my RE's... in under 10 SECONDS! Then I cloaked and ran away to hide, the end.
Possible, depending on situation. But Like I said "I saw somebody"
I'm not describing something I did...
I GÖÑ RoadKill
Closed BETA vet
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Rusty Shallows
1330
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Posted - 2014.03.30 21:29:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Oh geez...here we go again with this stupid nonsense. Scouts are is no way shape or form OP. It's obvious to anyone with half a damn brain and all the people that think scouts are OP need to stop being an idiot and start paying attention. 
*pats Atiim on the back*
Subtle humor really is the best kind. Although it is a bit disturbing the number of serious reactions being posted after you openly pointed out the joke in Post #5 on Page 1. Try not to get back strain lifting all the fish you caught.
Also enjoy your new and (un)deserved title: King of Scout-QQ. May it follow you for many years. 
Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting.
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Dimmu Borgir II
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
278
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Posted - 2014.03.30 21:30:00 -
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Atiim wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:
What are you trying to say stranger?
That Scouts are finally on par with the other frames, and anyone who says otherwise needs to uninstall DUST.
I tried deleting dust in fact my brain really wants me to delete it but my heart won't let me, it's certainly more than just a simple addiction, i think it's love.
Blue is good, red is bad, orange you glad you're not red?
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
782
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Posted - 2014.03.30 21:42:00 -
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Adell Shinzumakami wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:My assault just killed 3 heavies and 2 meds with a light weapon right now Sure he did
Exactly
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
7740
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Posted - 2014.03.30 21:46:00 -
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No.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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