Me and every other scout since up rising and before got our aces kicked by ccp for almost a year straight with all the changes they made and the 9 months of hell as we waited, it's been what, a week and you girls are crying like your best friend took your boyfriend to prom!

Get over it, before you cry nerf, why don't you form as a group and buff everything else first instead of making the same mistake that was made going from chrome to uprising.

What I mean is suck it up and wait for your buff like we did, balance everything to what we have now, stop nerfing crap before all the cards are on the table, cuz ccp will nerf scouts back to uprising , you'll cry respec and real scouts will still be kicking the crap out of you, you could take the cloak out of the game and we would still kick the crap out of you!

Why?

EWAR THAT'S WHY

We use it , you don't , and 9 months of spinny scans pampered you.
You have no ewar skills or mods cuz you maxed your damage. We all worried about being fast and hiding before damage an months ago we saved all our sp to build the perfect fit.

I run 87 shields and 165 armor and cloak or no cloak I'll still shot gun your head off cuz I know where and where not to be, plain an simple we trained under horrid conditions for a year and all of a sudden were op with one more shield slot, a cloak and better base stats?

News flash, the gallente has always had that much HP since bloody uprising, now it's got one more shield big whoop!

What you need to do, is get better ewar stats on assaults, damage and a grenade, FIRST!

Then once you see how that ballances then......... Cry your tears!

Ccp will never balance this game if they keep nerfing instead of buffing.

Leave the heavies for a bit and leave the scouts, buff the assaults into killing machines, people will always flock to what kills best then the nerfs come before everything is fixed before balancing it off of pre NERFED items, we need the community to ask ccp to do the opposite and stand by it.

Let it pan out, before all drop suit refunds are ruined for everybody, I mean I have all 4 proto scouts so I could care less scouts will never be worse than uprising 1.2-1.7

So in my humble opinion fix the rest of the game before you create double the work and in needed back tracking.

Then once everything has been given the once over, balance it from there.

Thanks for reading and keep your foolish negativity to a minimum, I took the time to write this to create positivity and optimism for this game instead of push the negative feedback mercs are so quick to share, this attitude needs to be less commonly announced to make this a more successful game.

Cheers

Us scouts from pre 1.8 LOL at the new "scouts." We know how to hide and counter nearly every tank, ranging from tanks, heavys, assaults, logis, and of course scouts.


Ask a loyal heavy to watch your six.

Me and every other scout since up rising and before got our aces kicked by ccp for almost a year straight with all the changes they made and the 9 months of hell as we waited, it's been what, a week and you girls are crying like your best friend took your boyfriend to prom!

Get over it, before you cry nerf, why don't you form as a group and buff everything else first instead of making the same mistake that was made going from chrome to uprising.

What I mean is suck it up and wait for your buff like we did, balance everything to what we have now, stop nerfing crap before all the cards are on the table, cuz ccp will nerf scouts back to uprising , you'll cry respec and real scouts will still be kicking the crap out of you, you could take the cloak out of the game and we would still kick the crap out of you!

Why?

EWAR THAT'S WHY

We use it , you don't , and 9 months of spinny scans pampered you.
You have no ewar skills or mods cuz you maxed your damage. We all worried about being fast and hiding before damage an months ago we saved all our sp to build the perfect fit.

I run 87 shields and 165 armor and cloak or no cloak I'll still shot gun your head off cuz I know where and where not to be, plain an simple we trained under horrid conditions for a year and all of a sudden were op with one more shield slot, a cloak and better.

Cheers

I forgot to mention, but was mentioned in a post above mine.

You sound like tankers 2.0 - deny deny deny. Nothing is wrong with rewarding **** gameplay and making scout UP by simply turning on their easy mode button.

And you said in my humble opinion... Which is hilarious because its neither honest, objective, thought out, valid or by any means is as detailed as mine is.

Take 5 minutes to read my text blocks, let me lay some knowledge on you young scout. Let me show you that scouts before had no reason to use a cloak to sneak up on foes or be viable or downright dominate the battlefield.

I can also add cloaks diminish another scout skill, the ability when a target is selected that you must close the gap in order to kill it. So not being spotted by positioning and angles is very important but not for cloaks. So SG and NK are far more likely to be rewarded for their bad gameplay than before. But i guess thats why so many scouts love cloaks, they couldn't hack it before and love easy mode, it makes the game far more enjoyable when you are successful than struggling.

I would live a reply, but don't worry. I've been posting comments about cloaks for 4 days now and not a single person can bring up a reason or even justify why cloaks were used. If you want to use their "reasoning" please feel free to answer in the following manners:

"Eye are OP", "get good", "they help me be great" or my favourite "eve has cloaks". There is no reason to have an easy button which lessens risk, provides high rewards and has 0 drawbacks to using. Activate run towards front lines, slay foes, repeat until you are 13-4.

Nobody cares about ewar.

Logis can run a cloak too, or did we forget about this.....

Cloak is a pretty neat feature, and it'll take time for the overusage of cloak to go down, but until then here we forums lurkers remain upon this subject lol.

I agree with Costie's explanation on the in/out of the cloaking ability. Personally I only ever knew of maybe around five or six memorable scouts(and a couple Minmatar Logis) that could pick 'n choose their targets in a dangerous situation, and shame the best of players WITHOUT cloak. Otherwise the rest just tried to throw a detpack at me or rush me in the open without a forethought of strategy. Yet now that cloak is available, even a burk can sneak up and kill professionals like as if we just recently started the game...

I'm not saying all forms of cloaking is idiocy based skill, there are good scouts/opportunists. However, when you see memorable scouts that were crap at getting kills or WPs suddenly outscore everyone else because of cloak... Yeah you know it's gonna get overused and be used as an easy mode crutch... Hell, I've already heard of certain Corps throwing in a 10+ man/woman scout/cloak runners for PCs while the other few are just cannon fodder for the cloakers to go back stabbing the people gunning for 'em...

Cloak is a pretty neat feature, and it'll take time for the overusage of cloak to go down, but until then here we forums lurkers remain upon this subject lol.

Simple solution, require more sacrifice fitting wise to use a cloak.

Cut all cpu and pg on scouts by a decent amount.

Give scouts a flat fitting bonus to ewar equipment.

Cloaks become harder to fitfit with ehp. Brick tanking gets harder, every other scout role is roughly unaffected.

The logi's bonus applying to cloaks is on the bug list. I suspect that cloaked Logis will not be something that is seen outside a crazy occasional test suit in going forwards.



Perhaps you forget how this community functions. Once people figure out that something is OP they rush to it like dogs after cat poop and they stick with it until it is nerfed. Cloaked scouts won't "die down" just like Tanks or TAR didn't "die down." The only way to bring sanity back is for CCP to make a change to either scouts or anyone else.

To the OP:
Just because you were UP doesn't mean you deserve to be OP. Also, my cup is prepped for your sweet sweet "I just got nerfed tears." It is filling with tanker tears right now but I'll drink it down and make some room.

You sir get my like lol i made a post similiar to this and you are right peeps try diversity becausr there is no longer a flavor of the month to spam or ruin everything has its counter so quit knocking scouts or tanks or dropships or heavys try new tactics this is a online game eveeyone shouldnt be running all the same gear.

I really do not understand the problem with clack shotgun scouts. Bads are only marginally more difficult to handle, while good scouts aren't really much more effective as they're using EXACTLY the same skills and techniques as pre-cloak; they just don't have to get killed by optimistic rifle spray at 100m as frequently now. If you get shotgunned in the back or side, what difference did the cloak really make? If you get shotgunned head-on, ain't nobody's fault but yours.

Me and every other scout since up rising and before got our aces kicked by ccp for almost a year straight with all the changes they made and the 9 months of hell as we waited, it's been what, a week and you girls are crying like your best friend took your boyfriend to prom!

Get over it, before you cry nerf, why don't you form as a group and buff everything else first instead of making the same mistake that was made going from chrome to uprising.

What I mean is suck it up and wait for your buff like we did, balance everything to what we have now, stop nerfing crap before all the cards are on the table, cuz ccp will nerf scouts back to uprising , you'll cry respec and real scouts will still be kicking the crap out of you, you could take the cloak out of the game and we would still kick the crap out of you!

Why?

EWAR THAT'S WHY

We use it , you don't , and 9 months of spinny scans pampered you.
You have no ewar skills or mods cuz you maxed your damage. We all worried about being fast and hiding before damage an months ago we saved all our sp to build the perfect fit.

I run 87 shields and 165 armor and cloak or no cloak I'll still shot gun your head off cuz I know where and where not to be, plain an simple we trained under horrid conditions for a year and all of a sudden were op with one more shield slot, a cloak and better base stats?

News flash, the gallente has always had that much HP since bloody uprising, now it's got one more shield big whoop!

What you need to do, is get better ewar stats on assaults, damage and a grenade, FIRST!

Then once you see how that ballances then......... Cry your tears!

Ccp will never balance this game if they keep nerfing instead of buffing.

Leave the heavies for a bit and leave the scouts, buff the assaults into killing machines, people will always flock to what kills best then the nerfs come before everything is fixed before balancing it off of pre NERFED items, we need the community to ask ccp to do the opposite and stand by it.

Let it pan out, before all drop suit refunds are ruined for everybody, I mean I have all 4 proto scouts so I could care less scouts will never be worse than uprising 1.2-1.7

So in my humble opinion fix the rest of the game before you create double the work and in needed back tracking.

Then once everything has been given the once over, balance it from there.

Thanks for reading and keep your foolish negativity to a minimum, I took the time to write this to create positivity and optimism for this game instead of push the negative feedback mercs are so quick to share, this attitude needs to be less commonly announced to make this a more successful game.

Cheers