DUST Search - Ok ok ok, enough with the tears about balance and nerfs

Cotsy8 wrote:

I forgot to mention, but was mentioned in a post above mine.

You sound like tankers 2.0 - deny deny deny. Nothing is wrong with rewarding **** gameplay and making scout UP by simply turning on their easy mode button.

And you said in my humble opinion... Which is hilarious because its neither honest, objective, thought out, valid or by any means is as detailed as mine is.

Take 5 minutes to read my text blocks, let me lay some knowledge on you young scout. Let me show you that scouts before had no reason to use a cloak to sneak up on foes or be viable or downright dominate the battlefield.

I can also add cloaks diminish another scout skill, the ability when a target is selected that you must close the gap in order to kill it. So not being spotted by positioning and angles is very important but not for cloaks. So SG and NK are far more likely to be rewarded for their bad gameplay than before. But i guess thats why so many scouts love cloaks, they couldn't hack it before and love easy mode, it makes the game far more enjoyable when you are successful than struggling.

I would live a reply, but don't worry. I've been posting comments about cloaks for 4 days now and not a single person can bring up a reason or even justify why cloaks were used. If you want to use their "reasoning" please feel free to answer in the following manners:

"Eye are OP", "get good", "they help me be great" or my favourite "eve has cloaks". There is no reason to have an easy button which lessens risk, provides high rewards and has 0 drawbacks to using. Activate run towards front lines, slay foes, repeat until you are 13-4.


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DEZKA DIABLO Inner.Hell 545	Posted - 2014.03.30 03:45:00 - [1] - Quote Me and every other scout since up rising and before got our aces kicked by ccp for almost a year straight with all the changes they made and the 9 months of hell as we waited, it's been what, a week and you girls are crying like your best friend took your boyfriend to prom! Get over it, before you cry nerf, why don't you form as a group and buff everything else first instead of making the same mistake that was made going from chrome to uprising. What I mean is suck it up and wait for your buff like we did, balance everything to what we have now, stop nerfing crap before all the cards are on the table, cuz ccp will nerf scouts back to uprising , you'll cry respec and real scouts will still be kicking the crap out of you, you could take the cloak out of the game and we would still kick the crap out of you! Why? EWAR THAT'S WHY We use it , you don't , and 9 months of spinny scans pampered you. You have no ewar skills or mods cuz you maxed your damage. We all worried about being fast and hiding before damage an months ago we saved all our sp to build the perfect fit. I run 87 shields and 165 armor and cloak or no cloak I'll still shot gun your head off cuz I know where and where not to be, plain an simple we trained under horrid conditions for a year and all of a sudden were op with one more shield slot, a cloak and better base stats? News flash, the gallente has always had that much HP since bloody uprising, now it's got one more shield big whoop! What you need to do, is get better ewar stats on assaults, damage and a grenade, FIRST! Then once you see how that ballances then......... Cry your tears! Ccp will never balance this game if they keep nerfing instead of buffing. Leave the heavies for a bit and leave the scouts, buff the assaults into killing machines, people will always flock to what kills best then the nerfs come before everything is fixed before balancing it off of pre NERFED items, we need the community to ask ccp to do the opposite and stand by it. Let it pan out, before all drop suit refunds are ruined for everybody, I mean I have all 4 proto scouts so I could care less scouts will never be worse than uprising 1.2-1.7 So in my humble opinion fix the rest of the game before you create double the work and in needed back tracking. Then once everything has been given the once over, balance it from there. Thanks for reading and keep your foolish negativity to a minimum, I took the time to write this to create positivity and optimism for this game instead of push the negative feedback mercs are so quick to share, this attitude needs to be less commonly announced to make this a more successful game. Cheers Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
DEZKA DIABLO Inner.Hell 549	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:24:00 - [2] - Quote I can't even quote the mad guy with the great wall of china post, I'm not defending cloaks, take it out of the game for all I care I'm happy with my new stats and slots, I'm saying stop nerfing crap and whining until other things are buffed instead of nerfing then buffing everything else and destroying spend sp to accommodate the tears, make everyone happy . Scouts got there db dropped to 35, assaults db is what 50? Percision mods are 20 dampeners are 25, that means your fakked! So make stationary deployable decloaking equipment that can be fluxed, increase a assault db to 40/45, and have another look at the percision vs damp math an maybe tweak mods before you ask ccp to destroy something they took 9 months to fix and if it takes 6 months for your buff than be a man and wait, instead of putting on a skirt and crying. Everyone takes a a$$ kicking turn in this game and people gotta man up an take it or quit. I don't likegetting ghost shottied either, of having some prick gltch the game and shoot me while cloaked, but we man up an take it an patiently wait, but cry buff not nerf. All I'm trying to say Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
DEZKA DIABLO Inner.Hell 549	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:25:00 - [3] - Quote Cotsy8 wrote: I forgot to mention, but was mentioned in a post above mine. You sound like tankers 2.0 - deny deny deny. Nothing is wrong with rewarding **** gameplay and making scout UP by simply turning on their easy mode button. And you said in my humble opinion... Which is hilarious because its neither honest, objective, thought out, valid or by any means is as detailed as mine is. Take 5 minutes to read my text blocks, let me lay some knowledge on you young scout. Let me show you that scouts before had no reason to use a cloak to sneak up on foes or be viable or downright dominate the battlefield. I can also add cloaks diminish another scout skill, the ability when a target is selected that you must close the gap in order to kill it. So not being spotted by positioning and angles is very important but not for cloaks. So SG and NK are far more likely to be rewarded for their bad gameplay than before. But i guess thats why so many scouts love cloaks, they couldn't hack it before and love easy mode, it makes the game far more enjoyable when you are successful than struggling. I would live a reply, but don't worry. I've been posting comments about cloaks for 4 days now and not a single person can bring up a reason or even justify why cloaks were used. If you want to use their "reasoning" please feel free to answer in the following manners: "Eye are OP", "get good", "they help me be great" or my favourite "eve has cloaks". There is no reason to have an easy button which lessens risk, provides high rewards and has 0 drawbacks to using. Activate run towards front lines, slay foes, repeat until you are 13-4. I can't even quote the mad guy with the great wall of china post, I'm not defending cloaks, take it out of the game for all I care I'm happy with my new stats and slots, I'm saying stop nerfing crap and whining until other things are buffed instead of nerfing then buffing everything else and destroying spend sp to accommodate the tears, make everyone happy . Scouts got there db dropped to 35, assaults db is what 50? Percision mods are 20 dampeners are 25, that means your fakked! So make stationary deployable decloaking equipment that can be fluxed, increase a assault db to 40/45, and have another look at the percision vs damp math an maybe tweak mods before you ask ccp to destroy something they took 9 months to fix and if it takes 6 months for your buff than be a man and wait, instead of putting on a skirt and crying. Everyone takes a a$$ kicking turn in this game and people gotta man up an take it or quit. I don't likegetting ghost shottied either, of having some prick gltch the game and shoot me while cloaked, but we man up an take it an patiently wait, but cry buff not nerf. All I'm trying to say, this goes for you too Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
DEZKA DIABLO Inner.Hell 553	Posted - 2014.03.30 09:19:00 - [4] - Quote Villanor Aquarius wrote: Simple solution, require more sacrifice fitting wise to use a cloak. Cut all cpu and pg on scouts by a decent amount. Give scouts a flat fitting bonus to ewar equipment. Cloaks become harder to fitfit with ehp. Brick tanking gets harder, every other scout role is roughly unaffected. You insane? No just fix everything else! Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
DEZKA DIABLO Inner.Hell 553	Posted - 2014.03.30 09:26:00 - [5] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: BrownEye1129 wrote: Logis can run a cloak too, or did we forget about this..... The logi's bonus applying to cloaks is on the bug list. I suspect that cloaked Logis will not be something that is seen outside a crazy occasional test suit in going forwards. Cogadh Draco wrote: Cloak is a pretty neat feature, and it'll take time for the overusage of cloak to go down, but until then here we forums lurkers remain upon this subject lol. Perhaps you forget how this community functions. Once people figure out that something is OP they rush to it like dogs after cat poop and they stick with it until it is nerfed. Cloaked scouts won't "die down" just like Tanks or TAR didn't "die down." The only way to bring sanity back is for CCP to make a change to either scouts or anyone else. To the OP: Just because you were UP doesn't mean you deserve to be OP. Also, my cup is prepped for your sweet sweet "I just got nerfed tears." It is filling with tanker tears right now but I'll drink it down and make some room. Nerf it all you want, take the cloak out of the game I ll be a scout either way, your just proving how stupid the player base can be by backing constant nerfs an wrecking the game instead of backing buff and asking for counter measures, apparently your too ignorant to understand the original post. Thank you for proving my point Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
DEZKA DIABLO Inner.Hell 553	Posted - 2014.03.30 09:37:00 - [6] - Quote nelo kazuma wrote: You sir get my like lol i made a post similiar to this and you are right peeps try diversity becausr there is no longer a flavor of the month to spam or ruin everything has its counter so quit knocking scouts or tanks or dropships or heavys try new tactics this is a online game eveeyone shouldnt be running all the same gear. This game has so many babies in it, that in real life I would be suprised if most of them don't get punched out once a month. Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
DEZKA DIABLO Inner.Hell 553	Posted - 2014.03.30 10:23:00 - [7] - Quote The Eristic wrote: I really do not understand the problem with clack shotgun scouts. Bads are only marginally more difficult to handle, while good scouts aren't really much more effective as they're using EXACTLY the same skills and techniques as pre-cloak; they just don't have to get killed by optimistic rifle spray at 100m as frequently now. If you get shotgunned in the back or side, what difference did the cloak really make? If you get shotgunned head-on, ain't nobody's fault but yours. I like you Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!