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stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1255	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:24:00 - [1] - Quote I used a dren shotgun (with no SP in shotguns), an advanced cloak field, and some kin cats... what a joke. 1) Spot an enemy 2) Cloak 3) Get behind them in moments (10.01 m/s sprint) 4) De-cloak and Shotgun them in back 5) Repeat I can switch to the SG and fire the first shot before the cloak wears off and re-cloak without any cooldown because it never gets anywhere near 50%. I'm sure its even more insane with SP in shotguns, something needs to be done to balance it. I'm not sure what the best option is but I'm gonna go ahead and abuse this fit until something is done. STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado, Cannabis Sativa Connoisseur
jerrmy12 kahoalii 751	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:26:00 - [2] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: I used a dren shotgun (with no SP in shotguns), an advanced cloak field, and some kin cats... what a joke. 1) Spot an enemy 2) Cloak 3) Get behind them in moments (10.01 m/s sprint) 4) De-cloak and Shotgun them in back 5) Repeat I can switch to the SG and fire the first shot before the cloak wears off and re-cloak without any cooldown because it never gets anywhere near 50%. I'm sure its even more insane with SP in shotguns, something needs to be done to balance it. I'm not sure what the best option is but I'm gonna go ahead and abuse this fit until something is done. Only the shotgun needs fixing... Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 1097	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:27:00 - [3] - Quote I'm not even sure if cloak is useful, as a scout i need to run to get anywhere. He wouldn't see you if you didn't had a cloak cos he didn't see you. *Assassination is my thing.*
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 4178	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:28:00 - [4] - Quote I agree that shotguns and cloaks are a problem and cheap. Every other weapon is fine because you don't have that instagank ability. They need to restrict shotgun usage and cloaks. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
toten thing KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 22	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:29:00 - [5] - Quote decided I am going on the atkins diet so I can be a scout like everyone else. Paper < Rock dust 514 forum We need to nerf paper its OP.
jerrmy12 kahoalii 751	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:29:00 - [6] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: I agree that shotguns and cloaks are a problem and cheap. Every other weapon is fine because you don't have that instagank ability. They need to restrict shotgun usage and cloaks. Like planetside 2... Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5450	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:30:00 - [7] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: I used a dren shotgun (with no SP in shotguns), an advanced cloak field, and some kin cats... what a joke. 1) Spot an enemy 2) Cloak 3) Get behind them in moments (10.01 m/s sprint) 4) De-cloak and Shotgun them in back 5) Repeat I can switch to the SG and fire the first shot before the cloak wears off and re-cloak without any cooldown because it never gets anywhere near 50%. I'm sure its even more insane with SP in shotguns, something needs to be done to balance it. I'm not sure what the best option is but I'm gonna go ahead and abuse this fit until something is done. Only the shotgun needs fixing... It's not even the shotgun honestly, hasn't changed much at all, it's more the way you can uncloak and shoot that's causing it. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 4182	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:32:00 - [8] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: I agree that shotguns and cloaks are a problem and cheap. Every other weapon is fine because you don't have that instagank ability. They need to restrict shotgun usage and cloaks. Like planetside 2... Pretty much. It was a problem there and it's a problem here. In my opinion the only weapon that should be able to instagank at cqc and be able to fit with a cloak are knives. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Yagihige Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 685	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:33:00 - [9] - Quote Uncloaking sends your cloak energy to 0%. You can only use it again when it gets back to 100%. Fixed. em ta kool t'nod
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5450	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:34:00 - [10] - Quote Yagihige wrote: Uncloaking sends your cloak energy to 0%. You can only use it again when it gets back to 100%. Fixed. That's absolutely horrible way to balance cloaks, and would punish those who use higher tiered versions. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)

Bormir1r Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 180	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:36:00 - [11] - Quote Yagihige wrote: Uncloaking sends your cloak energy to 0%. You can only use it again when it gets back to 100%. Fixed. Too much penalty on cloaks. 25-50% sounds right, imagine standing around in the open butt-naked for a 30 seconds sourrounded by eneimes after you've decloaked and you're trying to evade. "One does not simply" look for a scout, it looks for you.
jerrmy12 kahoalii 751	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:37:00 - [12] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: I used a dren shotgun (with no SP in shotguns), an advanced cloak field, and some kin cats... what a joke. 1) Spot an enemy 2) Cloak 3) Get behind them in moments (10.01 m/s sprint) 4) De-cloak and Shotgun them in back 5) Repeat I can switch to the SG and fire the first shot before the cloak wears off and re-cloak without any cooldown because it never gets anywhere near 50%. I'm sure its even more insane with SP in shotguns, something needs to be done to balance it. I'm not sure what the best option is but I'm gonna go ahead and abuse this fit until something is done. Only the shotgun needs fixing... It's not even the shotgun honestly, hasn't changed much at all, it's more the way you can uncloak and shoot that's causing it. Well me uncloaking and shooting a magsec isnt a problem... Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
BARDAS Shining Flame Amarr Empire 900	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:37:00 - [13] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: I used a dren shotgun (with no SP in shotguns), an advanced cloak field, and some kin cats... what a joke. 1) Spot an enemy 2) Cloak 3) Get behind them in moments (10.01 m/s sprint) 4) De-cloak and Shotgun them in back 5) Repeat I can switch to the SG and fire the first shot before the cloak wears off and re-cloak without any cooldown because it never gets anywhere near 50%. I'm sure its even more insane with SP in shotguns, something needs to be done to balance it. I'm not sure what the best option is but I'm gonna go ahead and abuse this fit until something is done. Only the shotgun needs fixing... The shotgun already got a RoF nerf this patch. It doesn't need more "fixing"
BARDAS Shining Flame Amarr Empire 903	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:39:00 - [14] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: I used a dren shotgun (with no SP in shotguns), an advanced cloak field, and some kin cats... what a joke. 1) Spot an enemy 2) Cloak 3) Get behind them in moments (10.01 m/s sprint) 4) De-cloak and Shotgun them in back 5) Repeat I can switch to the SG and fire the first shot before the cloak wears off and re-cloak without any cooldown because it never gets anywhere near 50%. I'm sure its even more insane with SP in shotguns, something needs to be done to balance it. I'm not sure what the best option is but I'm gonna go ahead and abuse this fit until something is done. Upgrading "Eyes" and "Situational Awareness" to Level 5 works wonders for fixing this problem If the person involved turned around and looked behind them they would see the shimmer racing at them easily.
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 409	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:39:00 - [15] - Quote So. If you were behind them, what's the cloak going to do? In front, they are blind. Counter? EYES and AWARENESS. Once people get used to scouts, they won't be as OP. QQ? Boo Hoo [Q] <-- Drink Moar Quafe
jerrmy12 kahoalii 751	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:39:00 - [16] - Quote BARDAS wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: I used a dren shotgun (with no SP in shotguns), an advanced cloak field, and some kin cats... what a joke. 1) Spot an enemy 2) Cloak 3) Get behind them in moments (10.01 m/s sprint) 4) De-cloak and Shotgun them in back 5) Repeat I can switch to the SG and fire the first shot before the cloak wears off and re-cloak without any cooldown because it never gets anywhere near 50%. I'm sure its even more insane with SP in shotguns, something needs to be done to balance it. I'm not sure what the best option is but I'm gonna go ahead and abuse this fit until something is done. Only the shotgun needs fixing... The shotgun already got a RoF nerf this patch. It doesn't need more "fixing" Only way to stop the qq Then again I like having the stuff in my sig.... Check my sig for sweet stuff Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
BARDAS Shining Flame Amarr Empire 903	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:41:00 - [17] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: BARDAS wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: I used a dren shotgun (with no SP in shotguns), an advanced cloak field, and some kin cats... what a joke. 1) Spot an enemy 2) Cloak 3) Get behind them in moments (10.01 m/s sprint) 4) De-cloak and Shotgun them in back 5) Repeat I can switch to the SG and fire the first shot before the cloak wears off and re-cloak without any cooldown because it never gets anywhere near 50%. I'm sure its even more insane with SP in shotguns, something needs to be done to balance it. I'm not sure what the best option is but I'm gonna go ahead and abuse this fit until something is done. Only the shotgun needs fixing... The shotgun already got a RoF nerf this patch. It doesn't need more "fixing" Only way to stop the qq Then again I like having the stuff in my sig.... Check my sig for sweet stuff What makes you think the QQ will ever stop? If you give a mouse a cookie... People are QQ'ing because the Scout suddenly is good and can challenge them. They don't like that and want it nerfed back "into its place". Scouts are the black people of Dust... descrimination I tell ya!
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 335	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:43:00 - [18] - Quote you can nerf SGs and cloaks into the ground it won't stop fgts from crying tho, they'll just find something else to be miserable about (crying about tanks last week, crying about infantry this week) u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
Varjac Theobroma Montenegro PAND3M0N1UM Lokun Listamenn 289	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:44:00 - [19] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: I used a dren shotgun (with no SP in shotguns), an advanced cloak field, and some kin cats... what a joke. 1) Spot an enemy 2) Cloak 3) Get behind them in moments (10.01 m/s sprint) 4) De-cloak and Shotgun them in back 5) Repeat I can switch to the SG and fire the first shot before the cloak wears off and re-cloak without any cooldown because it never gets anywhere near 50%. I'm sure its even more insane with SP in shotguns, something needs to be done to balance it. I'm not sure what the best option is but I'm gonna go ahead and abuse this fit until something is done. Sounds like you were picking off stragglers. That should be easy. In certain situations that combo can definitely be frustrating, as cloaked shotgunners come through windows and drop down from tall towers. But in other contexts I like that you have to stay aware. It's fun. Please note, I have only played 5 or so infantry games, and I tried a cloak myself for a few. I even ghost hacked an ADS then blew up the pilot! LoL FAME Click for Vehicle Support Click for Recruitment
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 148	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:45:00 - [20] - Quote Only problem is the speed of decloak, theres been times i switch to weapon and the cloak stays for a good 2-4 seconds

Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 213	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:46:00 - [21] - Quote BARDAS wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: I used a dren shotgun (with no SP in shotguns), an advanced cloak field, and some kin cats... what a joke. 1) Spot an enemy 2) Cloak 3) Get behind them in moments (10.01 m/s sprint) 4) De-cloak and Shotgun them in back 5) Repeat I can switch to the SG and fire the first shot before the cloak wears off and re-cloak without any cooldown because it never gets anywhere near 50%. I'm sure its even more insane with SP in shotguns, something needs to be done to balance it. I'm not sure what the best option is but I'm gonna go ahead and abuse this fit until something is done. Only the shotgun needs fixing... The shotgun already got a RoF nerf this patch. It doesn't need more "fixing" When did they hot fix the shotgun? When 1.8 hit my basic-level shotgun had a range and rate of fire buff. And I never bought into it past advanced tier. The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
Aramis Madrigal SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 195	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:49:00 - [22] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: I used a dren shotgun (with no SP in shotguns), an advanced cloak field, and some kin cats... what a joke. 1) Spot an enemy 2) Cloak 3) Get behind them in moments (10.01 m/s sprint) 4) De-cloak and Shotgun them in back 5) Repeat I can switch to the SG and fire the first shot before the cloak wears off and re-cloak without any cooldown because it never gets anywhere near 50%. I'm sure its even more insane with SP in shotguns, something needs to be done to balance it. I'm not sure what the best option is but I'm gonna go ahead and abuse this fit until something is done. Perhaps the cloak drops to 40-45% power when you de-cloak? This ensures at least a few moments of visibility while maintaining the advantage of higher level cloaks.
jerrmy12 kahoalii 751	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:50:00 - [23] - Quote BARDAS wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: BARDAS wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: I used a dren shotgun (with no SP in shotguns), an advanced cloak field, and some kin cats... what a joke. 1) Spot an enemy 2) Cloak 3) Get behind them in moments (10.01 m/s sprint) 4) De-cloak and Shotgun them in back 5) Repeat I can switch to the SG and fire the first shot before the cloak wears off and re-cloak without any cooldown because it never gets anywhere near 50%. I'm sure its even more insane with SP in shotguns, something needs to be done to balance it. I'm not sure what the best option is but I'm gonna go ahead and abuse this fit until something is done. Only the shotgun needs fixing... The shotgun already got a RoF nerf this patch. It doesn't need more "fixing" Only way to stop the qq Then again I like having the stuff in my sig.... Check my sig for sweet stuff What makes you think the QQ will ever stop? If you give a mouse a cookie... People are QQ'ing because the Scout suddenly is good and can challenge them. They don't like that and want it nerfed back "into its place". Scouts are the black people of Dust... descrimination I tell ya! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1900755#post1900755 Thats my post Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
The Terminator T-1000 Skynet Incorporated 268	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:52:00 - [24] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: I used a dren shotgun (with no SP in shotguns), an advanced cloak field, and some kin cats... what a joke. 1) Spot an enemy 2) Cloak 3) Get behind them in moments (10.01 m/s sprint) 4) De-cloak and Shotgun them in back 5) Repeat I can switch to the SG and fire the first shot before the cloak wears off and re-cloak without any cooldown because it never gets anywhere near 50%. I'm sure its even more insane with SP in shotguns, something needs to be done to balance it. I'm not sure what the best option is but I'm gonna go ahead and abuse this fit until something is done. Exactly! It is way too easy! Scouts+cloaking=OP
Radar R4D-47 0uter.Heaven 538	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:53:00 - [25] - Quote Yagihige wrote: Uncloaking sends your cloak energy to 0%. You can only use it again when it gets back to 100%. Fixed. I actually agree with this. Cloak at basic has a 10sec cloak time and 10 second recharge. Adv 20 and 10 proto 30 and 10 After 5 seconds you can recloak but you are rewarded for having the higher tier cloaks. Cloaking indefinetly right now is pretty fun but is game breaking.
jerrmy12 kahoalii 751	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:54:00 - [26] - Quote Radar R4D-47 wrote: Yagihige wrote: Uncloaking sends your cloak energy to 0%. You can only use it again when it gets back to 100%. Fixed. I actually agree with this. Cloak at basic has a 10sec cloak time and 10 second recharge. Adv 20 and 10 proto 30 and 10 After 5 seconds you can recloak but you are rewarded for having the higher tier cloaks. Cloaking indefinetly right now is pretty fun but is game breaking. **** no terrible idea Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Radar R4D-47 0uter.Heaven 538	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:02:00 - [27] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Radar R4D-47 wrote: Yagihige wrote: Uncloaking sends your cloak energy to 0%. You can only use it again when it gets back to 100%. Fixed. I actually agree with this. Cloak at basic has a 10sec cloak time and 10 second recharge. Adv 20 and 10 proto 30 and 10 After 5 seconds you can recloak but you are rewarded for having the higher tier cloaks. Cloaking indefinetly right now is pretty fun but is game breaking. **** no terrible idea Why because you would go back to sucking. If you knew you wouldn't be able to immediately cloak back up after you ran behind 4 people would you decloak? Assault scouts wouldn't be a problem. You also would then have to actually manage your cloak for maximum effectiveness not; spawn in, cloak up run to reds, uncloak kill, cloak up, find more reds, decloak kill. The cloak shouldn't be a crutch like it is right now it should be a equipment that when used right amplifies a particular role. Higher tiers should also be better at amplifying however I use the adv cloak because the proto is a waste of fitting space.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4641	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:03:00 - [28] - Quote Lets look at the scenario presented, and see what happens with a competent and alert "victim": stlcarlos989 wrote: 1) Spot an enemy 2) Cloak 3) Get kill in moments (no tank because cloak + KinCats) 4) Respawn and this time get killed before even having time to cloak 5) Repeat As a non-cloaking Shotgun Scout, I can see enemy Scouts coming, watch them cloak, watch them TRY to circle around me and shoot them in the face while they still have the cloak equipped and before they pull their own Shotgun out to try and shoot me. As a Rail Rifle Assault, I can see enemy Scouts coming and shoot them a handful of times and see them die before getting a chance to cloak. As an AR Assault, I can see enemy Scouts coming, watch them cloak, then shoot them a few seconds later when they're in range because they aren't actually invisible. As a Logi with my SMG, I can watch the Scout come close while cloaked, then unload on their face before they make it into their Shotgun's effective range. They can take a chunk out of my shields, but that's about it. Lrn2eyes.
Skihids Bullet Cluster 3190	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:13:00 - [29] - Quote Playing with it the other day I learned you really have to use the cloak more as a profile dampener than an invisibility cloak. Moving makes you plenty visible, so much so that I consider it more a paint scheme than great camouflage. Treat it that way and you'll be far more effective with it. Toss a complex profile dampener on top of a cloaked GAL and you should run under everyone's radar. Then stay out of direct sight as you would with no cloak.
BARDAS Shining Flame Amarr Empire 907	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:26:00 - [30] - Quote Skihids wrote: Playing with it the other day I learned you really have to use the cloak more as a profile dampener than an invisibility cloak. Moving makes you plenty visible, so much so that I consider it more a paint scheme than great camouflage. Treat it that way and you'll be far more effective with it. Toss a complex profile dampener on top of a cloaked GAL and you should run under everyone's radar. Then stay out of direct sight as you would with no cloak. You will have a 8.75db profile while using a proto skilled Gal Scout with a single complex damp while cloaked. Uncloaked I found using only 1 complex damp will still get you seen by any Cal Scout running 2 Complex Precision Enhancers. If you don't want to use a cloak you need to run 2 Complex Damps to stay under Cal Scout's passive radar.



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