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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:26:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:I used a dren shotgun (with no SP in shotguns), an advanced cloak field, and some kin cats... what a joke. 1) Spot an enemy 2) Cloak 3) Get behind them in moments (10.01 m/s sprint) 4) De-cloak and Shotgun them in back 5) Repeat I can switch to the SG and fire the first shot before the cloak wears off and re-cloak without any cooldown because it never gets anywhere near 50%. I'm sure its even more insane with SP in shotguns, something needs to be done to balance it. I'm not sure what the best option is but I'm gonna go ahead and abuse this fit until something is done. Only the shotgun needs fixing...
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:29:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:I agree that shotguns and cloaks are a problem and cheap. Every other weapon is fine because you don't have that instagank ability.
They need to restrict shotgun usage and cloaks. Like planetside 2...
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:37:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:I used a dren shotgun (with no SP in shotguns), an advanced cloak field, and some kin cats... what a joke. 1) Spot an enemy 2) Cloak 3) Get behind them in moments (10.01 m/s sprint) 4) De-cloak and Shotgun them in back 5) Repeat I can switch to the SG and fire the first shot before the cloak wears off and re-cloak without any cooldown because it never gets anywhere near 50%. I'm sure its even more insane with SP in shotguns, something needs to be done to balance it. I'm not sure what the best option is but I'm gonna go ahead and abuse this fit until something is done. Only the shotgun needs fixing... It's not even the shotgun honestly, hasn't changed much at all, it's more the way you can uncloak and shoot that's causing it. Well me uncloaking and shooting a magsec isnt a problem...
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:39:00 -
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BARDAS wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:I used a dren shotgun (with no SP in shotguns), an advanced cloak field, and some kin cats... what a joke. 1) Spot an enemy 2) Cloak 3) Get behind them in moments (10.01 m/s sprint) 4) De-cloak and Shotgun them in back 5) Repeat I can switch to the SG and fire the first shot before the cloak wears off and re-cloak without any cooldown because it never gets anywhere near 50%. I'm sure its even more insane with SP in shotguns, something needs to be done to balance it. I'm not sure what the best option is but I'm gonna go ahead and abuse this fit until something is done. Only the shotgun needs fixing... The shotgun already got a RoF nerf this patch. It doesn't need more "fixing" Only way to stop the qq Then again I like having the stuff in my sig.... Check my sig for sweet stuff
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:50:00 -
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BARDAS wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:BARDAS wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:I used a dren shotgun (with no SP in shotguns), an advanced cloak field, and some kin cats... what a joke. 1) Spot an enemy 2) Cloak 3) Get behind them in moments (10.01 m/s sprint) 4) De-cloak and Shotgun them in back 5) Repeat I can switch to the SG and fire the first shot before the cloak wears off and re-cloak without any cooldown because it never gets anywhere near 50%. I'm sure its even more insane with SP in shotguns, something needs to be done to balance it. I'm not sure what the best option is but I'm gonna go ahead and abuse this fit until something is done. Only the shotgun needs fixing... The shotgun already got a RoF nerf this patch. It doesn't need more "fixing" Only way to stop the qq Then again I like having the stuff in my sig.... Check my sig for sweet stuff What makes you think the QQ will ever stop? If you give a mouse a cookie... People are QQ'ing because the Scout suddenly is good and can challenge them. They don't like that and want it nerfed back "into its place". Scouts are the black people of Dust... descrimination I tell ya! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1900755#post1900755 Thats my post
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:54:00 -
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Radar R4D-47 wrote:Yagihige wrote:Uncloaking sends your cloak energy to 0%. You can only use it again when it gets back to 100%. Fixed. I actually agree with this. Cloak at basic has a 10sec cloak time and 10 second recharge. Adv 20 and 10 proto 30 and 10 After 5 seconds you can recloak but you are rewarded for having the higher tier cloaks. Cloaking indefinetly right now is pretty fun but is game breaking. **** no terrible idea
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:35:00 -
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Radar R4D-47 wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Radar R4D-47 wrote:Yagihige wrote:Uncloaking sends your cloak energy to 0%. You can only use it again when it gets back to 100%. Fixed. I actually agree with this. Cloak at basic has a 10sec cloak time and 10 second recharge. Adv 20 and 10 proto 30 and 10 After 5 seconds you can recloak but you are rewarded for having the higher tier cloaks. Cloaking indefinetly right now is pretty fun but is game breaking. **** no terrible idea Why because you would go back to sucking. If you knew you wouldn't be able to immediately cloak back up after you ran behind 4 people would you decloak? Assault scouts wouldn't be a problem. You also would then have to actually manage your cloak for maximum effectiveness not; spawn in, cloak up run to reds, uncloak kill, cloak up, find more reds, decloak kill. The cloak shouldn't be a crutch like it is right now it should be a equipment that when used right amplifies a particular role. Higher tiers should also be better at amplifying however I use the adv cloak because the proto is a waste of fitting space. Tldr because noob here thinks I need crutch 10 seconds for basic, NO ONE would ever use it, its way too ahort, get good use your eyea.
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Posted - 2014.03.28 20:36:00 -
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Radar R4D-47 wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Tldr because noob here thinks I need crutch 10 seconds for basic, NO ONE would ever use it, its way too ahort, get good use your eyea.
15 seconds for a basic link. 30% armour pick up. Rep tool of 30 armour per second. Nanohive that breaks after a single made. Scanner that can't even detect assaults. If that's your argument that no one will use it explain why all basic equip suck and people still use them. Because those have use And basic reps are 40.........and 10 seconds for an easy to see cloak? No thank you
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Posted - 2014.03.29 19:08:00 -
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Luna McDuffing wrote:The cloaking field has changed the game for the worst. It made it so that using a medium suit is worthless. I mean, you can make an assassin scout for less than 20-ISk where as a decent medium frame runs close to 40k ISK. My gallente LogI runs close to 45 ISK. This means that every time I get kill it hurts where as when I play as a scout I don't care as much because lets face it, most scout suits are disposable. This is common complaint that I have heard from everybody. Medium frame are useless because of expense and no way to defend themselves against a cloaked scout. Well, yes, in an open field you can see them but on any other map you are SOL. This is not a balance game. I don't know what the proper solution to the problem is but here are a few of my suggestions. Before I get into it I want to say that the cloaking thing is uber cool but, it is just abused and unbalances the game.
Here are my suggestions to improve the game. Not all of them have to be implemented. Take them as option or group them together. In no particular order.
#1 Reduce the time the cloaking field stays on. My suggestions is 20 seconds for basic 40s for advance and 60s for proto. This will reduce camping. Also promotes people spending ISK on higher tier cloaking devices. Right now the basic one is all you need since 30s is enough to get in kill, hack an objective and still get out.
#2 Raise the cost of the cloaking device. The basic level is only about 2k isk. a gallente scout at level 5 suit (yet using basic scout suit) level 5 dampening field a shot gun and a profile dampener with the cloaking device is all you need. That would run you somewhere 12k ISK. If you die as a scout it doesn't hurt at all. Raise the price of the cloaking device to 8K or 10K and then you will see players begin to act more tactical.
#3 Improve the scanning tool. Along the bonus for using advance levels should be the scan angle. basic should say at 60, advance at 120 and proto at 180 degrees or something like that. Everything else can stay the same even the not being able to do the scanerina and the delay time. *yawns tldr and sick of all the cloak qq and get good*
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