DUST Search - Continuing the perpetual tank nerf train

Spkr4theDead wrote:

Ares 514 wrote:

Spkr4theDead wrote:

So instead of letting people like me deal with redline rail snipers, now I have to wait for them to get right behind me with 3 damage mods going so they can destroy me in 2 shots, and on top of that, now my armor hardener's bonus is reduced by almost half.

CCP, I'd like to know what prompted these changes. Yeah, I find a redline rail sniper to be a b!tch scared to leave the spawn, but I can deal with them. And there's no reason to nerf the armor hardeners, other than to please the infantry on here that continue to try to solo tanks. They put up the same threads about the same conditions, ie tank spam in ambush, or the rare occasion that they're not in ambush, they can't destroy a tank with Darkside CBR7 swarms.

With 1.7 as it was, I assumed you wanted tankers to deal with the threat. Now it's clear that due to infantry's ability to adapt to changes as we've done for over a year, now it's easier for those that find it difficult to use their brains to destroy tanks.

Translation, I don't want to die!!!

No, there's no reason to nerf something that people are too stupid to destroy.

I get destroyed by people that aren't on the forums all the time. They understand the words PTFO. Proxy traps and AV teams are the norm for people that are actually intelligent, which most of the forums clearly aren't.

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Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1953	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:34:00 - [1] - Quote So instead of letting people like me deal with redline rail snipers, now I have to wait for them to get right behind me with 3 damage mods going so they can destroy me in 2 shots, and on top of that, now my armor hardener's bonus is reduced by almost half. CCP, I'd like to know what prompted these changes. Yeah, I find a redline rail sniper to be a b!tch scared to leave the spawn, but I can deal with them. And there's no reason to nerf the armor hardeners, other than to please the infantry on here that continue to try to solo tanks. They put up the same threads about the same conditions, ie tank spam in ambush, or the rare occasion that they're not in ambush, they can't destroy a tank with Darkside CBR7 swarms. With 1.7 as it was, I assumed you wanted tankers to deal with the threat. Now it's clear that due to infantry's ability to adapt to changes as we've done for over a year, now it's easier for those that find it difficult to use their brains to destroy tanks. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11824	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:35:00 - [2] - Quote grabs popcorn You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 712	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:37:00 - [3] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: So instead of letting people like me deal with redline rail snipers, now I have to wait for them to get right behind me with 3 damage mods going so they can destroy me in 2 shots, and on top of that, now my armor hardener's bonus is reduced by almost half. CCP, I'd like to know what prompted these changes. Yeah, I find a redline rail sniper to be a b!tch scared to leave the spawn, but I can deal with them. And there's no reason to nerf the armor hardeners, other than to please the infantry on here that continue to try to solo tanks. They put up the same threads about the same conditions, ie tank spam in ambush, or the rare occasion that they're not in ambush, they can't destroy a tank with Darkside CBR7 swarms. With 1.7 as it was, I assumed you wanted tankers to deal with the threat. Now it's clear that due to infantry's ability to adapt to changes as we've done for over a year, now it's easier for those that find it difficult to use their brains to destroy tanks. Translation, I don't want to die!!! ...
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2745	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:40:00 - [4] - Quote "WWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH Swarms and forge guns are actually broken and not just UP but my tank is getting nerfed WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH" I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack! In fact forget the war and the blackjack.
jerrmy12 kahoalii 728	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:41:00 - [5] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: grabs popcorn passes soda Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12624	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:43:00 - [6] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: "WWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH Swarms and forge guns are actually broken and not just UP but my tank is getting nerfed WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH" Forges are bugged, not broken. Swarms are bugged AND broken. Carry on. "It seems you've mistaken me for someone who cares"
M1tch Rapp Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 15	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:44:00 - [7] - Quote Anything that pisses off spkr has to be somewhat good for the game. Good for you CCP.
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2584	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:45:00 - [8] - Quote get screwed tanker. I finally can destroy vehicles with my swarms without looking like a idiot. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1064	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:45:00 - [9] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: So instead of letting people like me deal with redline rail snipers, now I have to wait for them to get right behind me with 3 damage mods going so they can destroy me in 2 shots, and on top of that, now my armor hardener's bonus is reduced by almost half. CCP, I'd like to know what prompted these changes. Yeah, I find a redline rail sniper to be a b!tch scared to leave the spawn, but I can deal with them. And there's no reason to nerf the armor hardeners, other than to please the infantry on here that continue to try to solo tanks. They put up the same threads about the same conditions, ie tank spam in ambush, or the rare occasion that they're not in ambush, they can't destroy a tank with Darkside CBR7 swarms. With 1.7 as it was, I assumed you wanted tankers to deal with the threat. Now it's clear that due to infantry's ability to adapt to changes as we've done for over a year, now it's easier for those that find it difficult to use their brains to destroy tanks. 600m to 300m? Based on what thinking? I agree with you on red line rail gun tanks as snipers. I can hunt them down and the maps aren't very large so it was no big deal. If you had a partner you could send then out with hardeners as bait, a job I have done myself, then jump/hit them with they pulled out from their hiding spot to take the bait. And so it goes.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2745	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:46:00 - [10] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Delta 749 wrote: "WWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH Swarms and forge guns are actually broken and not just UP but my tank is getting nerfed WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH" Forges are bugged, not broken. Swarms are bugged AND broken. Carry on. Personally I consider the misfire bug as something that breaks the weapon but really its all semantics at this point, things are ****** and 2 years into the game thats just inexcusable I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack! In fact forget the war and the blackjack.

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1954	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:50:00 - [11] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: get screwed tanker. I finally can destroy vehicles with my swarms without looking like a idiot. You're an idiot in the first place for using your Starter Fit against a Gunnlogi. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1954	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:51:00 - [12] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: So instead of letting people like me deal with redline rail snipers, now I have to wait for them to get right behind me with 3 damage mods going so they can destroy me in 2 shots, and on top of that, now my armor hardener's bonus is reduced by almost half. CCP, I'd like to know what prompted these changes. Yeah, I find a redline rail sniper to be a b!tch scared to leave the spawn, but I can deal with them. And there's no reason to nerf the armor hardeners, other than to please the infantry on here that continue to try to solo tanks. They put up the same threads about the same conditions, ie tank spam in ambush, or the rare occasion that they're not in ambush, they can't destroy a tank with Darkside CBR7 swarms. With 1.7 as it was, I assumed you wanted tankers to deal with the threat. Now it's clear that due to infantry's ability to adapt to changes as we've done for over a year, now it's easier for those that find it difficult to use their brains to destroy tanks. 600m to 300m? Based on what thinking? I agree with you on red line rail gun tanks as snipers. I can hunt them down and the maps aren't very large so it was no big deal. If you had a partner you could send then out with hardeners as bait, a job I have done myself, then jump/hit them with they pulled out from their hiding spot to take the bait. Lol lrn2rd Hotfix today, rail range is being cut in half. Large turrets that is. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1954	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:53:00 - [13] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Delta 749 wrote: "WWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH Swarms and forge guns are actually broken and not just UP but my tank is getting nerfed WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH" Forges are bugged, not broken. Swarms are bugged AND broken. Carry on. Personally I consider the misfire bug as something that breaks the weapon but really its all semantics at this point, things are ****** and 2 years into the game thats just inexcusable So rails misfiring is fine, but a forge gun misfiring is a huge problem that needs to be fixed RFN. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1954	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:54:00 - [14] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I DON'T KNOW WHAT TEAMWORK IS SO I HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING HANDED TO ME ON A SILVER PLATTER BECAUSE MY BRAIN DOESN'T WORK WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH Appropriate I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1130	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:55:00 - [15] - Quote all the AV users reaction to the tank nerf awwww yeah YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12625	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:55:00 - [16] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Delta 749 wrote: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I DON'T KNOW WHAT TEAMWORK IS SO I HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING HANDED TO ME ON A SILVER PLATTER BECAUSE MY BRAIN DOESN'T WORK WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH Appropriate You're in a tank....the EPITOME of solo play.... "It seems you've mistaken me for someone who cares"
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1954	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:56:00 - [17] - Quote Ares 514 wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: So instead of letting people like me deal with redline rail snipers, now I have to wait for them to get right behind me with 3 damage mods going so they can destroy me in 2 shots, and on top of that, now my armor hardener's bonus is reduced by almost half. CCP, I'd like to know what prompted these changes. Yeah, I find a redline rail sniper to be a b!tch scared to leave the spawn, but I can deal with them. And there's no reason to nerf the armor hardeners, other than to please the infantry on here that continue to try to solo tanks. They put up the same threads about the same conditions, ie tank spam in ambush, or the rare occasion that they're not in ambush, they can't destroy a tank with Darkside CBR7 swarms. With 1.7 as it was, I assumed you wanted tankers to deal with the threat. Now it's clear that due to infantry's ability to adapt to changes as we've done for over a year, now it's easier for those that find it difficult to use their brains to destroy tanks. Translation, I don't want to die!!! No, there's no reason to nerf something that people are too stupid to destroy. I get destroyed by people that aren't on the forums all the time. They understand the words PTFO. Proxy traps and AV teams are the norm for people that are actually intelligent, which most of the forums clearly aren't. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1954	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:57:00 - [18] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Delta 749 wrote: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I DON'T KNOW WHAT TEAMWORK IS SO I HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING HANDED TO ME ON A SILVER PLATTER BECAUSE MY BRAIN DOESN'T WORK WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH Appropriate You're in a tank....the EPITOME of solo play.... I'm usually in a squad with Taka and 2 others. What solo play? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5319	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:57:00 - [19] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: grabs popcorn passes soda Melts cheese on nachos Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2249	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:58:00 - [20] - Quote continuing? perpetual? wtf are you talking about this is the first nerf tanks have gotten since their massive over buff 3 months ago.

Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2747	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:59:00 - [21] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Delta 749 wrote: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I DON'T KNOW WHAT TEAMWORK IS SO I HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING HANDED TO ME ON A SILVER PLATTER BECAUSE MY BRAIN DOESN'T WORK WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH Appropriate Uses a tank says others dont know about teamwork Face palm again Also go ahead and point out where I said rails misfiring is ok, any weapon misfiring is a problem But this is all beside the point, I want to get to the root of the problem Tell me, are you a middle child? Did your parents neglect you causing you to feel that you need to act out in such a way to get attention? Perhaps you just have low self esteem and look to video games as a power fantasy to prop yourself up and anything that intrudes on that threatens your fragile sense of self worth Its ok to let it out and tell us, this is a safe place and we can get you the help you need I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack! In fact forget the war and the blackjack.
Mors The Butcher Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 13	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:10:00 - [22] - Quote welcome to remote lav 514 because its working as intended 6 remotes on a lave bump a red tank and boom you die tank dies great crutch CCP I'M SORRY..... I'M SORRY FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAS HAPPENED TO YOU... ....AND EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO YOU
Villanor Aquarius WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 166	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:14:00 - [23] - Quote The nerf to hardeners is justified and acceptable, the rail range nerf is overmuch. A range of 350m I think would be good and then a nerf to rotation speed and ROF slightly would be good. This makes them very powerful ranged vehicles that can't be completely invulnerable but don't need to get super close to fight. The rotation speed and ROF should also help slot them better into their role as ranged firepower. Currently the rotation makes killing infantry fairly manageable and allows brawling with a rail gun to be too easy. It shouldn't be impossible but it should require careful driving to land your shots. Edit: I'm glad CCP is handling railguns one aspect at a time, if this range works out but the damage and brawling is too good then I'd love to see another hotfix address those issues. The current step towards balance is much preferable to widesweeping nerf and buff swings.
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 1030	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:16:00 - [24] - Quote The reason it's an unnecessarily huge nerf is that the problem was never the amount of resistance, it was the shorter cooldowns making permahardened tanks a reality alongside militia hardeners being just as good as proto hardeners. This nerf means that a militia railgun without damage mods can kill a double hardened Gunnlogi with a complex extender in a single magazine. So it is now more beneficial to spam militia tanks than to skill into vehicles. If anything, you'll see more tank spam because now the only real thing holding them at bay, namely the proto tanks, are now on the same level as the militia tanks. AV was never a problem to militia tanks because you can lose 4-5 and still turn a profit. Best PVE idea I've seen. Fixed link.
Mors The Butcher Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 13	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:18:00 - [25] - Quote Villanor Aquarius wrote: The nerf to hardeners is justified and acceptable, the rail range nerf is overmuch. A range of 350m I think would be good and then a nerf to rotation speed and ROF slightly would be good. This makes them very powerful ranged vehicles that can't be completely invulnerable but don't need to get super close to fight. The rotation speed and ROF should also help slot them better into their role as ranged firepower. Currently the rotation makes killing infantry fairly manageable and allows brawling with a rail gun to be too easy. It shouldn't be impossible but it should require careful driving to land your shots. Edit: I'm glad CCP is handling railguns one aspect at a time, if this range works out but the damage and brawling is too good then I'd love to see another hotfix address those issues. The current step towards balance is much preferable to widesweeping nerf and buff swings. we already have to lead our rail shots on infantry and lavs and tanks and dropships wat more do you want I'M SORRY..... I'M SORRY FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAS HAPPENED TO YOU... ....AND EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO YOU
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1246	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:19:00 - [26] - Quote Ares 514 wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: So instead of letting people like me deal with redline rail snipers, now I have to wait for them to get right behind me with 3 damage mods going so they can destroy me in 2 shots, and on top of that, now my armor hardener's bonus is reduced by almost half. CCP, I'd like to know what prompted these changes. Yeah, I find a redline rail sniper to be a b!tch scared to leave the spawn, but I can deal with them. And there's no reason to nerf the armor hardeners, other than to please the infantry on here that continue to try to solo tanks. They put up the same threads about the same conditions, ie tank spam in ambush, or the rare occasion that they're not in ambush, they can't destroy a tank with Darkside CBR7 swarms. With 1.7 as it was, I assumed you wanted tankers to deal with the threat. Now it's clear that due to infantry's ability to adapt to changes as we've done for over a year, now it's easier for those that find it difficult to use their brains to destroy tanks. Translation, I don't want to die!!! Please dont make me come out of the Redline !!! It's funny to see one redline B!tch calling other redline tanker B!tch lol
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1246	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:22:00 - [27] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Ares 514 wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: So instead of letting people like me deal with redline rail snipers, now I have to wait for them to get right behind me with 3 damage mods going so they can destroy me in 2 shots, and on top of that, now my armor hardener's bonus is reduced by almost half. CCP, I'd like to know what prompted these changes. Yeah, I find a redline rail sniper to be a b!tch scared to leave the spawn, but I can deal with them. And there's no reason to nerf the armor hardeners, other than to please the infantry on here that continue to try to solo tanks. They put up the same threads about the same conditions, ie tank spam in ambush, or the rare occasion that they're not in ambush, they can't destroy a tank with Darkside CBR7 swarms. With 1.7 as it was, I assumed you wanted tankers to deal with the threat. Now it's clear that due to infantry's ability to adapt to changes as we've done for over a year, now it's easier for those that find it difficult to use their brains to destroy tanks. Translation, I don't want to die!!! No, there's no reason to nerf something that people are too stupid to destroy. I get destroyed by people that aren't on the forums all the time. They understand the words PTFO. Proxy traps and AV teams are the norm for people that are actually intelligent, which most of the forums clearly aren't. How do you proxy in the Redline again !? Throw proxy's at the redline ?! The only way L33T redliners die is by JLAV.... They are too stupid to notice a flashing LAV!!! lmfao
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1246	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:24:00 - [28] - Quote calisk galern wrote: continuing? perpetual? wtf are you talking about this is the first nerf tanks have gotten since their massive over buff 3 months ago. Making them actually fight each other inside the map like the rest of us is not considered a nerf. We will see how all these BIg talks about TEAMWORK would stack up lol
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3371	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:25:00 - [29] - Quote I think the nerf is all wrong, but... HA-HA. I look forward to dropping a fresh, hot **** all over your next series of QQ threads. Now, entertain me with your paint huffer's drunken road rage style of humor little man... I GÖú Kittens.
Mors The Butcher Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 13	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:26:00 - [30] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: calisk galern wrote: continuing? perpetual? wtf are you talking about this is the first nerf tanks have gotten since their massive over buff 3 months ago. Making them actually fight each other inside the map like the rest of us is not considered a nerf. We will see how all these BIg talks about TEAMWORK would stack up lol some people already use teamwork to destroy tanks with legit av and lay traps with proxy's I'M SORRY..... I'M SORRY FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAS HAPPENED TO YOU... ....AND EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO YOU



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