We?

Who is we?

Would that be happen to be the same people who've been bungling this game for almost a year now, or does "we" happen to include some prodigious newcomers whose efforts will (beyoud the awareness of the community?) miraculously come to pass?



This should be the first evidence that you really can't bother reassuring myself or anyone else. We've been there for your changes and we've been there for your neglect, and we're tired of the fact that the former has also included the latter.

Don't bother to give me smileyfaces until I can be arsed to smileyface myself, and you are just aboui 12 months too late for that.

The only thing Dev's need to do with tanks is increase the price tag. Militia tank frames should be 250,000 ISK. Standard should be 500,000 ISK. advanced should be 1,000,000, and proto should be 1.5 mill. That would stop spam. Also reduce the number of tanks able to be placed to 2. Also I don't agree with getting 2 AV or flux grenades. Locus grenades were okay with than nerf. Any other type of AV should be buffed as well. I hope you guys take thes into consideration. From a players perspective I think veryone would agree. Tanks aren't over powered AV is under powered.

I agree that they should have responded. And it does anger me that thread after thread about my videos most of which were fair and respectful in nature were just ignored. The people that took time to care about the game are not treated well. When an issue is negatively impacting large numbers of players, and they take the time to use the tools CCP put in place to express this, then it is a poor reaction to not even respond with the simplest acknowledgement.

If you have a community team then they should be here for their community when it cries out. Their lack of response was a black mark against them.

My strongest worded opinions on the matter hit their inboxes, not the forums.

We're looking at running a hotfix (hopefully by the end of this week - but if not then next week) to address some concerns.

How many people are driving and operating that tank? 1
How many people bought and paid for that tank? 1
How many people skilled into using the tank? 1

How many people should it take to kill 1 Scout? 1
How many people should it take to kill 1 Assault? 1
How many people should it take to kill 1 Sentinel? 1

How many people should it take to dispose of a LAV? 1
How many people should it take to disposs of a DS? 1
How many people should it take to dispose of a HAV? 3? And you don't see the mathematical conundrum that arises from that?

That means everything because tanks and infantry share the same role on the same battlefield.
The tank and the infantry player are doing the same thing and competing in the same role.

We're looking at running a hotfix (hopefully by the end of this week - but if not then next week) to address some concerns.

Then switching suits needs to take a lot longer too, and you need to be killable the whole time.
You don't realize that some people are actually using it how it's meant to be used, adapting to the current situation on the battlefield. Your suggestion makes it a lot harder to use it for the intended use. It would not affect those wishing to recall damaged vehicles as they have no desire of calling in a new one in the heat of battle. Instead recall time should be linked to armor % lost on the vehicle. And recall should have a cooldown of 1-2 mins to stop people avoiding cooldowns on rail tanks.

To everyone that came here to cry about tanks being OP, go make your own thread don't piggyback off my issues.

Considering nobody ever heard of you, or your Corp. ..we will leave your thread alone. Considering without out presence your thread would go Un noticed. Sorry buddy have fun continuing to be unknown. Newb

We're looking at running a hotfix (hopefully by the end of this week - but if not then next week) to address some concerns.

And when you see me and my Corp mates chasing you in the red line and t bagging you you will know it's because of your lack of respect. Punk. We re trying to fix the game we love and you were just lucky enough to get a blue tag. Punk

To everyone that came here to cry about tanks being OP, go make your own thread don't piggyback off my issues.

Not that you have any planets to take anyway...hey? Your not aloud to post in this thread anymore.

Go ahead try....and then switch to minecraft because that will be all you got left.

THANK YOU.

You've said pretty much the only thing I've seen rationally said about vehicles being OP for months; no more, no less.

Evidently, our dear Saberwing has yet to bother to listen to these things in (sh)he's- now-historical contest, and after an extended period of barely-disguised overt laziness on the part of the CCP devs, now decides to try to assuage our ("casual gamers''") eminently-reasonable fears regarding any obviously-empty platitudes to the contrary.

I might hope that this could serve as a wake-up call about the incompetence among the devs at CCP (which extends well beyond the glaringly-persistent imbalance-into-ridiculous-recent-apologies by an oft-quoted and questionally-revered elite sometimes known as "IWS"), but, apparently, multiple months of "vacation" have done-little to establish the reality of this anything known as balance,, except that those moments in which "IWS" and others continue to defer toward a defense of a depend on substantive grounds beyond their own self-aggrandizement, which just so happen not to exist as far as I've been able to tell in scientific trans.


I suppose I shouldn't aggrandize myself just now, but I do feel some entitlement so far as I have been a player whose patience has already exceeded that of the 'normal' gamer upon which you (CCP!) might expand your revenues to a reasonable level, and so far as someone who might or might not have funneled similar revenues to your doorstop in the belief that you don't entirely suck at your jobs:
You suck at your jobs.

I can't possibly be the least invested in the fate of DUST 514, considering the hours I have given to it, and I can't possibly be the only one out of patience with how the development of this game has gone, considering the tenor of the forums in general since I decided to stop playing, and in consideration of those two things, I can tell you that I have no future even nearly-comparable to that of EVE's, and that you'd likely be better-off listening to anyone other than the members of your vaunted CPM and their respective sycophants than you would a community calling for other obvious changes and not massaging your undeserved egoes.

The fact that you actually believe PC has meaning or value makes me laugh......

The fact that you actually believe PC has meaning or value makes me laugh......

How many people are driving and operating that tank? 1
How many people bought and paid for that tank? 1
How many people skilled into using the tank? 1

How many people should it take to kill 1 Scout? 1
How many people should it take to kill 1 Assault? 1
How many people should it take to kill 1 Sentinel? 1

How many people should it take to dispose of a LAV? 1
How many people should it take to disposs of a DS? 1
How many people should it take to dispose of a HAV? 3? And you don't see the mathematical conundrum that arises from that?

If this becomes true then make tanks dirt cheap. I'm a tanker and Aver and ive killed multiple tanks by myself by just using my brain. I've skilled into weapons that would assist me in my attempts Id lay traps and force tankers into them. People want to use 1 method to take out tanks and they want that 1 method to work and if it doesn't work its OP. Most tanks are fine as they are, I have had tankers shitting bricks when they see me on the field they would rather hop out of the tank to gun me down then to come after me.

Here are the problems with tanks Railguns are OP and Militia tanks are too effective if militia tanks were solo'ed then I'm ok with that maddys and gunnlogis though should take teamwork. You all want your God Mode solo tanking abilities of 1.6 back but its not going to happen. I've killed tanks with LAVs I've seen tanks killed with ADS I've killed tanks with other tanks I've killed tanks with swarms, proximity explosives and jihad jeeps. I've seen double forge gun teams rip tanks apart the lot of you are just running into unfortunate circumstances where the enemy team has a squad of tankers and your team doesn't.

If everyone wouldn't have been chasing FOTM in 1.7 then you would have more AVers on the field but no everyone is chasing KD/R and Sp. Its not impossible to Solo a tank in 1.8 I do it all the time. One day i decided to squad up with 1 other person who had demolition skills i destroyed 11 vehicles in that match killing 1 tanker 3 times in a row.

You want a bounty buddy? I only got half a billion to teach you a lesson about minding your own buisness

I'm not saying its impossible to solo a tank, infact its real easy, if reverse towards you with his hardners off, but then again how often does that happen.
The point your missing, the point that has been at the heart of this discussion since the dawn of time.

Your one man in a tank, what permits you as one man to be worth more than your infantry counterparts?

You can't say price anymore,
the price is right the strength is not.

You can't say SP,
everyone spends SP, spending more does not justify such strength

You can't say, because Im a tank
and I'm a genetically modified super soilder carrying a Assault Rifle that cannabalised from an fighter jet cannon

You can't say because its a HAV so it shouldn't be easy to kill with light weapons
otherwise heavies need another buff

So long as physically operating a tank does not require teamwork then neither should removing 1 from play.
It should be optional not compulsory.

Tanks should either be
1) Reletively simple destroy/suppress/deny
or
2) Indestructible but with limited firepower

Now you can say you do it all the time, but I can also say I speak swahili.
Spkr4thedead tried convincing me infantry AV was fine, with a HAV railgun.

I don't want AV god mode, Im just sick and tired of the current god mod tankers are trying to tell me doesn't exsist.
It's all well and good saying "you've been unlucky" but when so many people on the forums are saying the same thing, its not luck its maths.

I don't want to get into it about a game I dont play anymore but games are still won by uplink spam and capping points I'm guessing? A tank does neither.

Killing power gained. Map control lost.

Look ccp ur really starting to ******* **** me off here now are tanks have been nerfed so much u have to have everything 5 just to get a decent tank and it only has one gun now instead of 3.. and the go is **** ect.. and now ur saying ur giving back av as 1.6? Ur ******* mad and everyone who can't take out a tank spend ur ******* sp on a forge and then u can u crying mother ******* if u change tanks anymore people will up and leave u have to take that into consideration u have just put cloak out.. if they don't wanna die by a tank become a heavy forge gunner and nobhead.I mean proto not militia half these guys are moaning a militia forge won't take out my 13million sp madruger? Yeah because the day u do bring back 1.6 av lots.. of people are going to leave me being one if they have wirokomis they hurt like **** and I have to run even with hardner on same to proto forge and if u actually ******* played the game u would realise that to.. I drive around in a full proto madruger right and these guys are moaning their militia to adv swarms don't do anything to me yeah skill into it more for the damage *****! And ccp on another note if ur gonna **** anymore with the tanks I'd like a full vehicle respec and so will everyone else who is a tanker

Peace ccp and all u crying about tanks being Op