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hackingmini Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:28:00 - [1] - Quote is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job!
Supernus Gigas sNk Syndicate 622	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:34:00 - [2] - Quote If you're leaving, please give me your Isk. Don't want it going to waste now do we? I'll make sure it goes to good use shredding scouts with my Six Kin HMG. Cloak or no. *FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!*
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 861	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:35:00 - [3] - Quote Ummm.... Use your eyes? We're not exactly invisible, you know. I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 247	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:35:00 - [4] - Quote This... This has to be a joke. This can't NOT be a joke. No one can be this stupid. *"On the Leviathan's back will our civilization be carried home and the taint of the Enemy purged from our souls."*
VAHZZ Gallente Federation 434	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:36:00 - [5] - Quote THE DREAM HAS COME TRUE!!...and i am not able to see it a reality... It..is a hollow victory.. You can see the sarcasm no? The merc with a mouth - beware of random bouts of insanity! - and trolling ~ Proud Sniper Scout
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven 1347	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:36:00 - [6] - Quote Let them leave, the less horrible blueberries around the better I say The Sinwarden
Dimitri Rascolovitch The Immortal Knights 133	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:37:00 - [7] - Quote hackingmini wrote: is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! the cloaks didnt make this update bad, the unbalanced HMG, and "TTK fixes" did and this is coming from a HMG (prof 3) user since 1.3 ...Yeah, i use a heavy machine gun, and I think i do a Damn good job at it. i eat babies forum warrior Lv0
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3731	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:38:00 - [8] - Quote Like the old lady from Bioshock says "We can see you, ya know?" They not that hard to look for. Gotta use some brain and caution. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7665	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:39:00 - [9] - Quote If cloaks ruin the game, then why is halo so successful? Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12565	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:40:00 - [10] - Quote My main complaint is that flux grenades don't knock them out of cloak. It's a freaking EMP. Maken Tosch wrote: If cloaks ruin the game, then why is halo so successful? Master Chief, awesome music, aliens, Master Chief "It seems you've mistaken me for someone who cares"

hackingmini Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:41:00 - [11] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: If cloaks ruin the game, then why is halo so successful? halo isn't successful because of cloaks
xSir Campsalotx G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 162	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:45:00 - [12] - Quote Lol unbalanced HMG! You are not a true heavy... Have my prof 5, 3 reloading 3 ammo and 3 pg optimization and had a 7kdr running a std HMG most of the time, now I'm a scout because I knew heavies would suffer this update with the huge influx of scouts. Twig men are OP this update... G0DS AM0NG MEN Director 1.8 is going to be Heavy 514 they said... Looking around all I see are twig men
Dimitri Rascolovitch The Immortal Knights 133	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:56:00 - [13] - Quote xSir Campsalotx wrote: Lol unbalanced HMG! You are not a true heavy... Have my prof 5, 3 reloading 3 ammo and 3 pg optimization and had a 7kdr running a std HMG most of the time, now I'm a scout because I knew heavies would suffer this update with the huge influx of scouts. Twig men are OP this update... prof 3 ammo 3 reload 3 and yet almost EVERY time i die its either to an HMG or a fatsuit using his sidearm rarely to the paper mache ninjas comparatively ...Yeah, i use a heavy machine gun, and I think i do a Damn good job at it. i eat babies forum warrior Lv0
VAHZZ Gallente Federation 435	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:57:00 - [14] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: If cloaks ruin the game, then why is halo so successful? Halo haz cloaks?...dafuq man The merc with a mouth - beware of random bouts of insanity! - and trolling ~ Proud Sniper Scout
knight of 6 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1636	Posted - 2014.03.26 06:02:00 - [15] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: If cloaks ruin the game, then why is halo so successful? crysis 2 & 3 killzone shadow fall GÇ£Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am dampened.GÇ¥ Ko6 scout,
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7666	Posted - 2014.03.26 06:03:00 - [16] - Quote hackingmini wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: If cloaks ruin the game, then why is halo so successful? halo isn't successful because of cloaks Read again. If a claim is made that cloaks ruin a game, then I need an explanation as to why and how halo wasn't ruined by the cloak mechanic since halo 3. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12566	Posted - 2014.03.26 06:05:00 - [17] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: hackingmini wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: If cloaks ruin the game, then why is halo so successful? halo isn't successful because of cloaks Read again. If a claim is made that cloaks ruin a game, then I need an explanation as to why and how halo wasn't ruined by the cloak mechanic since halo 3. The radar jamming effect was a big balancing factor. In dust, you can be invisible AND see exactly where the enemy is. Before that it was a limited use semi random pickup with a fairly short life span. "It seems you've mistaken me for someone who cares"
maxovrkll F.M.O- Free Mercenaries Organization 45	Posted - 2014.03.26 06:06:00 - [18] - Quote Anyone who complains about the cloak doesnt realize the skill it takes to use and the sacrife to cpu and pg. It is nearly impossible to use out of proto, meaning if your spotted and your paper armor is shredded you lost at least 100k. You are simply being outplayed.
abarkrishna WarRavens 348	Posted - 2014.03.26 06:09:00 - [19] - Quote In halo you de-cloaked when you were shot. No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
tander09 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 61	Posted - 2014.03.26 09:05:00 - [20] - Quote I'm okay with cloaks unless the cloakers are using SHOTTYS!! OH COME ON GROW SOME BALLS TO SHOOT A SHOTTY WHILE UNCLOAKED! Touch my BPO Gear, and you shall perish in the thrusters of a AMARR TITAN!!!!!!! AMARRIAN4LYFE!

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4610	Posted - 2014.03.26 09:13:00 - [21] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: If cloaks ruin the game, then why is halo so successful? crysis 2 & 3 killzone shadow fall Transformers: War For Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron.
Gemini Cuspid Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2014.03.26 09:20:00 - [22] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: knight of 6 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: If cloaks ruin the game, then why is halo so successful? crysis 2 & 3 killzone shadow fall Transformers: War For Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron. Isn't Halo the only real shooter that Xbox had honestly? PS3 had Unchartered and MAG. I think tons of players are defaulted to playing Dust because there is a real low number of FPS games out there in general.
D0DGETHiS zDOG Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 33	Posted - 2014.03.26 09:27:00 - [23] - Quote I dont think cloaks have completely ruined the game. Planetside had them many moons ago. But they were really balanced. They had low HP, used speed as their armour, and the battlefield wasnt covered with them! Atm it seems some scout cloaks are running round with 700+ hp! Can fade into nothing, and can run some powerful weapons. Along with the fact that due to bugz they can get 2 shotgun shots off before decloak. Unfortunately flux grens dont expose them and reset their cloaks. And also that ive now seen commandos with cloaks on! Its a bit daft. Once the few issues are rectified. They can then be used correctly. Just gotta hope that the player base exists till then........
Ripper Rouge Maphia Clan Corporation 237	Posted - 2014.03.26 09:44:00 - [24] - Quote the real problem here,is that ppl doesn't de-cloack when shotted,and that yesterday i was killed few times by cloacked's peopl! f**k,this cloack doesn't work..... recipes.........recipes everywhere.........
Lowkiie KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 60	Posted - 2014.03.26 09:48:00 - [25] - Quote Cloaks have not ruined the game, Their Active and recharge time have. It needs some nerfing. 60s is wayyy to long for it to be active, they also recharge wayyy to fast. Slow the recharge, lower the active times and and lower the reactivate % to.
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 307	Posted - 2014.03.26 09:53:00 - [26] - Quote hackingmini wrote: is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of COD players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! fixed u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
The Robot Devil Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2157	Posted - 2014.03.26 10:08:00 - [27] - Quote Nothing wrong with cloaks, they are 99% perfect. Please don't change them, I played all day and I can't count how many laughs and giggle I heard on coms. Everyone but a select few love them and that is how it should be, if they weren't hated by some then they would be UP. The shimmer while moving, timer, decloak sound and hit markers while cloaked are good hard counters. Playing in a squad and a little more situational awareness negates most cloaks and high fitting costs means tanks and cloaks don't go together all that well. The cloaks make the scouts fun and in the right hands very dangerous, working as intended in my eyes. GOOD JOB to the CPM and CCP for giving us something fun. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
Den-tredje Baron The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 256	Posted - 2014.03.26 10:19:00 - [28] - Quote hackingmini wrote: is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! Actually everybody loves cloaks and scouts have finally gotten their "kick" back. But hey can i haz your isk
Gemini Cuspid Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2014.03.29 06:56:00 - [29] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Nothing wrong with cloaks, they are 99% perfect. Please don't change them, I played all day and I can't count how many laughs and giggle I heard on coms. Everyone but a select few love them and that is how it should be, if they weren't hated by some then they would be UP. The shimmer while moving, timer, decloak sound and hit markers while cloaked are good hard counters. Playing in a squad and a little more situational awareness negates most cloaks and high fitting costs means tanks and cloaks don't go together all that well. The cloaks make the scouts fun and in the right hands very dangerous, working as intended in my eyes. GOOD JOB to the CPM and CCP for giving us something fun. For the record, it's an obvious lie when there are reported glitches on the shotgun getting 2 shots off. Having "awareness" isn't as meaningful when you take into account overall buffs to scout-type dropsuits, fittings that allow for 400-770+ HP with a cloak and a proto shotgun. If we were talking about the overall function of scouts, it's that TOO SCOUT! Is the scout needing to be a silent ninja who can actually advance far into enemy territory and stay there and kill tons of players without need of support? That isn't what the scout role is supposed to do. It is fun for those whom it advantages, it always is. But I plain flat out don't like things that make the game silly. Maybe instead of nova knives they can make it a ninja katana and it'll make more sense then. CCP has one problem and that's interpretting game balance as buffing this and nerfing that. Game balance in FPS games is about what negates what. You shouldn't need 9 proto remotes to take out a decked out Gunlogi, something I find wrong with that actually. Scouts and Heavies shouldn't be the only two roles players are limited too. Stealth kills are fun and awesome at times but we've just taken the reverse and instead of how snipers dominated counterstrike, we actually reposition the game that makes sense. Here's a weird thought, how about we take the idea of balance created by negating abilities. An active scanner would've been a great counter against cloaks and this kind of reveals CCP's silly direction on "balance". How about heavies still get their high defense but get true short range weapons. How about railguns have a dramatic pitfall on damage when using at close range to avoid them being a de-facto shotgun. How about we investigate how scouts can have the same HP as an assault suit and probably try to make modules fit that avoid this issue. The point is CCP tries to Introduce "new" stuff and ends up trying to nerf other stuff only to say "the game needed balancing". I played EvE for 3 years so it's not like I hate their guts. But holycrap, THEY CAN'T MAKE A FPS SHOOTER GAME WORK. And here's my biggest gripe, you're game is not working as intended when kills count more to a player than winning. I'm getting sick of winning and loosing because ppl are afraid to lower their K/D ratio. Everyone one of us has seen this multiple matches. That's maybe why I loathe this game more and more; it had huge potential but has no sense of identity or direction. If the fix to a problem is "we'll change this and add this new item" its like they're not even taking the effort to really think things through.
Travis Stanush GunFall Mobilization 35	Posted - 2014.03.29 07:02:00 - [30] - Quote hackingmini wrote: is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing clacks, this is effing bullshit, claks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! Clacking scouts are fuxxing billclack Clack

Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 239	Posted - 2014.03.29 07:13:00 - [31] - Quote hackingmini wrote: is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! I'll admit cloaks were an unnecessary gimmick, but this game has had problems LONG beforeGÇª The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
nelo kazuma Da Short Buss Driving School 3	Posted - 2014.03.29 07:23:00 - [32] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: Ummm.... Use your eyes? We're not exactly invisible, you know. i agree with him the only things wrong with the cloaks ( and ccp is working on) is the scouts still being cloaked while they switch to a shotgun and fire one shot or 2. Not everything perfect the moment it comes out remember fac screwing up at first but hey they got it mostly down now. Other than that they do need something like this scouts have been underpowered for the longest and very very very few people knew how to use them right but they die in a few seconds hell i smashed a bunch of scouts with my mass driver who thought theyd sneak up on me. everythings got a counter to it now scouts u got splash damage weapons cuz they speedy heavys play the distance with rail or scout up close to them. assualts are nuetral so they can match a scout if done right n heavys. logis RE or several diffrent combos
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1429	Posted - 2014.03.29 07:42:00 - [33] - Quote hackingmini wrote: is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! why can't you scan them? get off my obstacle? eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 953	Posted - 2014.03.29 08:50:00 - [34] - Quote Don't get me wrong I do think that cloaks are OP, particularly the timer on that thing that lasts forever (this coming from a long time dedicated scout). However, when someone starts a thread with "is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout...." I just dismiss whatever argument that comes next because I know it is coming from a little crying girl who had her win button taken away. PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8. That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
Michael Cratar Fenrir's Wolves 308	Posted - 2014.03.29 08:56:00 - [35] - Quote hackingmini wrote: is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! Fun fact. I came back because of cloaks. Your argument is invalid ( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦). The question is not if I can or can not, but who is going to stop me? Closed Beta Vet
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 955	Posted - 2014.03.29 08:59:00 - [36] - Quote Gemini Cuspid wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: Nothing wrong with cloaks, they are 99% perfect. Please don't change them, I played all day and I can't count how many laughs and giggle I heard on coms. Everyone but a select few love them and that is how it should be, if they weren't hated by some then they would be UP. The shimmer while moving, timer, decloak sound and hit markers while cloaked are good hard counters. Playing in a squad and a little more situational awareness negates most cloaks and high fitting costs means tanks and cloaks don't go together all that well. The cloaks make the scouts fun and in the right hands very dangerous, working as intended in my eyes. GOOD JOB to the CPM and CCP for giving us something fun. For the record, it's an obvious lie when there are reported glitches on the shotgun getting 2 shots off. Having "awareness" isn't as meaningful when you take into account overall buffs to scout-type dropsuits, fittings that allow for 400-770+ HP with a cloak and a proto shotgun. If we were talking about the overall function of scouts, it's that TOO SCOUT! Is the scout needing to be a silent ninja who can actually advance far into enemy territory and stay there and kill tons of players without need of support? That isn't what the scout role is supposed to do. It is fun for those whom it advantages, it always is. But I plain flat out don't like things that make the game silly. Maybe instead of nova knives they can make it a ninja katana and it'll make more sense then. CCP has one problem and that's interpretting game balance as buffing this and nerfing that. Game balance in FPS games is about what negates what. You shouldn't need 9 proto remotes to take out a decked out Gunlogi, something I find wrong with that actually. Scouts and Heavies shouldn't be the only two roles players are limited too. Stealth kills are fun and awesome at times but we've just taken the reverse and instead of how snipers dominated counterstrike, we actually reposition the game that makes sense. Here's a weird thought, how about we take the idea of balance created by negating abilities. An active scanner would've been a great counter against cloaks and this kind of reveals CCP's silly direction on "balance". How about heavies still get their high defense but get true short range weapons. How about railguns have a dramatic pitfall on damage when using at close range to avoid them being a de-facto shotgun. How about we investigate how scouts can have the same HP as an assault suit and probably try to make modules fit that avoid this issue. The point is CCP tries to Introduce "new" stuff and ends up trying to nerf other stuff only to say "the game needed balancing". I played EvE for 3 years so it's not like I hate their guts. But holycrap, THEY CAN'T MAKE A FPS SHOOTER GAME WORK. And here's my biggest gripe, you're game is not working as intended when kills count more to a player than winning. I'm getting sick of winning and loosing because ppl are afraid to lower their K/D ratio. Everyone one of us has seen this multiple matches. That's maybe why I loathe this game more and more; it had huge potential but has no sense of identity or direction. If the fix to a problem is "we'll change this and add this new item" its like they're not even taking the effort to really think things through. I agree with you to a point. You comments with respect to scouts actually amount to a nerf hammer. You can't ask for nerf to both cloaks and HP at the same time and stick to the dead horse of "scout is supposed to gather info and not score kills" - everyone can see that in an FPS it makes no sense. There is just no such role, no need to "gather intel". Scouts are supposed to have very short range, good stealth, LOW hp, and high damage. Period. The only thing that's broken about them right now is the ability to put a lot of HP on them. PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8. That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 138	Posted - 2014.03.29 09:03:00 - [37] - Quote - Increase shimmer when fluxed. - Add a small activation cost on top of the constant drain to discourage quick cloak - gun - cloak play. Fixed...
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 407	Posted - 2014.03.29 09:07:00 - [38] - Quote RAAAAAGGGGEEEEE for the CLACKS! We can pickle that.
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 396	Posted - 2014.03.29 09:12:00 - [39] - Quote maxovrkll wrote: Anyone who complains about the cloak doesnt realize the skill it takes to use and the sacrife to cpu and pg. It is nearly impossible to use out of proto, meaning if your spotted and your paper armor is shredded you lost at least 100k. You are simply being outplayed. Wow. "It takes skill" to be given an EXTRA ability to be mostly invisible? LOL Dust player logic right there. Dude 800-900+ hp scouts with an extra equip slot, a ton of passive abilities and a cloaking device and you guys think that takes skill? I love what CCP have done with scouts but AS PER f**king usual, there needs to be BALANCING! My god Dust users really do take the biscuit.
Stupid Blueberry Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 103	Posted - 2014.03.29 09:12:00 - [40] - Quote Travis Stanush wrote: hackingmini wrote: is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing clacks, this is effing bullshit, claks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! Clacking scouts are fuxxing billclack Clack OMFG NO ONE ELSE WILL EVER KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS <3

Stupid Blueberry Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 107	Posted - 2014.03.29 09:13:00 - [41] - Quote Travis Stanush wrote: hackingmini wrote: is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing clacks, this is effing bullshit, claks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! Clacking scouts are fuxxing billclack Clack Where is that thread so I can bump it?
Travis Stanush GunFall Mobilization 37	Posted - 2014.03.29 18:50:00 - [42] - Quote Stupid Blueberry wrote: Travis Stanush wrote: hackingmini wrote: is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing clacks, this is effing bullshit, claks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! Clacking scouts are fuxxing billclack Clack Where is that thread so I can bump it? Here you go
Scheneighnay McBob Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4540	Posted - 2014.03.29 19:04:00 - [43] - Quote If they aren't cloaked, they're MUCH easier to scan this build. If they're moving, they're easy to see. I am your scan error.
jerrmy12 kahoalii 770	Posted - 2014.03.29 19:07:00 - [44] - Quote hackingmini wrote: is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! yawns at the noobs spamming cloak is op or broken topics Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 1141	Posted - 2014.03.29 19:15:00 - [45] - Quote Isk please, actually alot of people logged on. *Assassination is my thing.*
highimgay 123456 Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.03.29 19:33:00 - [46] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: Ummm.... Use your eyes? We're not exactly invisible, you know. No WE are pretty invisible...... When standing still in a corner with a sg and hitting weapon swap and ohkilling before the decloak animation finishes...
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1508	Posted - 2014.03.29 19:47:00 - [47] - Quote hackingmini wrote: is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! Pauses replaying Fallout 3. Looks foreward to E3 2014 for a lot of PS4 games and hopefully the posibility of buying a PS4 instead of sorry its sold out, sold out , PS4 SOLD OUT!! Continues replaying Fallout 3. Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1508	Posted - 2014.03.29 19:50:00 - [48] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: hackingmini wrote: is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! yawns at the noobs spamming cloak is op or broken topics Yawns at those spaming cloaks thinking that gungame equals hiding in a corner camping and OHK kills with a shotgun . Crutch. Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 960	Posted - 2014.03.29 19:51:00 - [49] - Quote highimgay 123456 wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: Ummm.... Use your eyes? We're not exactly invisible, you know. No WE are pretty invisible...... When standing still in a corner with a sg and hitting weapon swap and ohkilling before the decloak animation finishes... Only cowards use that tactic. That is, only cowards use that tactic EXCLUSIVELY. I use it when I'm being chased. I don't need luck, I have a cloak. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone
neausea 1987 R 0 N 1 N 83	Posted - 2014.03.29 23:02:00 - [50] - Quote did somebody call captain QQ what the babies gonna do bruh.......hands him kleenex and flies away. GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ ....... (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ i need more QQ tears MORE!!!!!!

jerrmy12 kahoalii 772	Posted - 2014.03.29 23:13:00 - [51] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: hackingmini wrote: is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! yawns at the noobs spamming cloak is op or broken topics Yawns at those spaming cloaks thinking that gungame equals hiding in a corner camping and OHK kills with a shotgun . Crutch. laughs at how mr. Noob cant see the cloak and instakill the scout Noob Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Reapers' Assailant 1039	Posted - 2014.03.29 23:16:00 - [52] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: This... This has to be a joke. This can't NOT be a joke. No one can be this stupid. Its possible. Just remember to check your IQ on the way out. Proficiency V in rage and No-Scopes
Gemini Cuspid Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2014.03.30 04:27:00 - [53] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Gemini Cuspid wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: Nothing wrong with cloaks, they are 99% perfect. Please don't change them, I played all day and I can't count how many laughs and giggle I heard on coms. Everyone but a select few love them and that is how it should be, if they weren't hated by some then they would be UP. The shimmer while moving, timer, decloak sound and hit markers while cloaked are good hard counters. Playing in a squad and a little more situational awareness negates most cloaks and high fitting costs means tanks and cloaks don't go together all that well. The cloaks make the scouts fun and in the right hands very dangerous, working as intended in my eyes. GOOD JOB to the CPM and CCP for giving us something fun. For the record, it's an obvious lie when there are reported glitches on the shotgun getting 2 shots off. Having "awareness" isn't as meaningful when you take into account overall buffs to scout-type dropsuits, fittings that allow for 400-770+ HP with a cloak and a proto shotgun. If we were talking about the overall function of scouts, it's that TOO SCOUT! Is the scout needing to be a silent ninja who can actually advance far into enemy territory and stay there and kill tons of players without need of support? That isn't what the scout role is supposed to do. It is fun for those whom it advantages, it always is. But I plain flat out don't like things that make the game silly. Maybe instead of nova knives they can make it a ninja katana and it'll make more sense then. CCP has one problem and that's interpretting game balance as buffing this and nerfing that. Game balance in FPS games is about what negates what. You shouldn't need 9 proto remotes to take out a decked out Gunlogi, something I find wrong with that actually. Scouts and Heavies shouldn't be the only two roles players are limited too. Stealth kills are fun and awesome at times but we've just taken the reverse and instead of how snipers dominated counterstrike, we actually reposition the game that makes sense. Here's a weird thought, how about we take the idea of balance created by negating abilities. An active scanner would've been a great counter against cloaks and this kind of reveals CCP's silly direction on "balance". How about heavies still get their high defense but get true short range weapons. How about railguns have a dramatic pitfall on damage when using at close range to avoid them being a de-facto shotgun. How about we investigate how scouts can have the same HP as an assault suit and probably try to make modules fit that avoid this issue. The point is CCP tries to Introduce "new" stuff and ends up trying to nerf other stuff only to say "the game needed balancing". I played EvE for 3 years so it's not like I hate their guts. But holycrap, THEY CAN'T MAKE A FPS SHOOTER GAME WORK. And here's my biggest gripe, you're game is not working as intended when kills count more to a player than winning. I'm getting sick of winning and loosing because ppl are afraid to lower their K/D ratio. Everyone one of us has seen this multiple matches. That's maybe why I loathe this game more and more; it had huge potential but has no sense of identity or direction. If the fix to a problem is "we'll change this and add this new item" its like they're not even taking the effort to really think things through. I agree with you to a point. You comments with respect to scouts actually amount to a nerf hammer. You can't ask for nerf to both cloaks and HP at the same time and stick to the dead horse of "scout is supposed to gather info and not score kills" - everyone can see that in an FPS it makes no sense. There is just no such role, no need to "gather intel". Scouts are supposed to have very short range, good stealth, LOW hp, and high damage. Period. The only thing that's broken about them right now is the ability to put a lot of HP on them. The nerf to HP is a given. The problem with cloaks are not addressing how you can get 2 shots off before it gets removed. That's a glitch and one being exploited pretty heavily that players are on the fence with how many are doing it actively versus unknowingly. As my point was earlier, with the change to active scanners it amounts to scouts being more free to move around with the lowest amount of detection than ever possible. Worse yet add to passive scanning abilities to be shared then that's the overall picture: a scout that's been harder to detect and kill than ever before in the game. That's the problem with scouts overall: changes to both active scanners and improved scout builds with cloaks means they get boosted in stealth to significantly high levels. That's a problem that goes hand-in-hand whether you want to accept it or not and was a problem solely created by the overall adjustments in equipment and to scout.
noobsniper the 2nd POISION ROSES Galactic Skyfleet Empire 355	Posted - 2014.03.30 04:32:00 - [54] - Quote tander09 wrote: I'm okay with cloaks unless the cloakers are using SHOTTYS!! OH COME ON GROW SOME BALLS TO SHOOT A SHOTTY WHILE UNCLOAKED! I for 1 do... Sometimes runs away giggling "things are made of stuff"-Bill Nye MAG vet raven ftw Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 4966	Posted - 2014.03.30 04:35:00 - [55] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: This... This has to be a joke. This can't NOT be a joke. No one can be this stupid. It's not. People are actually this mad. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 422	Posted - 2014.03.30 04:39:00 - [56] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: hackingmini wrote: is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! Pauses replaying Fallout 3. Looks foreward to E3 2014 for a lot of PS4 games and hopefully the posibility of buying a PS4 instead of sorry its sold out, sold out , PS4 SOLD OUT!! Continues replaying Fallout 3. Dude, I have every trophy on Fallout 3 except that stupid ******* one for the ingots in that crappy Pitt DLC. I'm glad I stil have the platinum trophy anyway. BTW CCP...I like trophies. It keeps the OCD people occupied for ever. We can pickle that.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2711	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:07:00 - [57] - Quote hackingmini wrote: is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! preach weRideNDie2getha since 2010 (https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts)
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 4966	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:09:00 - [58] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: hackingmini wrote: is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! preach Come on, you can't honestly agree with this guy? He's just spouting the same whiner bullshit everyone always does about new assets. And doing it in a "I'M GONNA QUIT" thread while he's at it. This is as bad as that guy saying we should remove vehicles from Ambush and make them cost WP in all other modes. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 32	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:09:00 - [59] - Quote I can't stand the cloaks either but I have discovered that scouts dont like explosives being shoved down their throat. Plasma Cannon and Mass Driver FTW Favoring High Latency Is Sh*t
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 32	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:10:00 - [60] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: hackingmini wrote: is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! preach Come on, you can't honestly agree with this guy? He's just spouting the same whiner bullshit everyone always does about new assets. And doing it in a "I'M GONNA QUIT" thread while he's at it. This is as bad as that guy saying we should remove vehicles from Ambush and make them cost WP in all other modes. We just have to adapt and they obviously can't Favoring High Latency Is Sh*t

Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 4966	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:14:00 - [61] - Quote SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: hackingmini wrote: is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! preach Come on, you can't honestly agree with this guy? He's just spouting the same whiner bullshit everyone always does about new assets. And doing it in a "I'M GONNA QUIT" thread while he's at it. This is as bad as that guy saying we should remove vehicles from Ambush and make them cost WP in all other modes. We just have to adapt and they obviously can't Yeah, the OP went straight to rageposting. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Athena Sentinel SOE Knights Templar 191	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:29:00 - [62] - Quote hackingmini wrote: is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! Numbers have increased.. what are you talking about?
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2711	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:30:00 - [63] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: hackingmini wrote: is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! preach Come on, you can't honestly agree with this guy? He's just spouting the same whiner bullshit everyone always does about new assets. And doing it in a "I'M GONNA QUIT" thread while he's at it. This is as bad as that guy saying we should remove vehicles from Ambush and make them cost WP in all other modes. Can't honestly agree with what? That cloaks are cheesy? Cloaks are cheesy...you can't honestly disagree with it. weRideNDie2getha since 2010 (https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts)
The Infected One Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1219	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:40:00 - [64] - Quote maxovrkll wrote: Anyone who complains about the cloak doesnt realize the skill it takes to use and the sacrife to cpu and pg. It is nearly impossible to use out of proto, meaning if your spotted and your paper armor is shredded you lost at least 100k. You are simply being outplayed. If you need a proto suit and or cloak to be effective as a scout, sit back down and let us pre 1.8 scouts do the actual scouting. Cloak is not needed to be effective as a scout, or post big numbers. Situational awareness is all you need. NOBODY needs 80 sec of cloak for anything other than literally sitting there cloaked with a shot gun for a random red dot to show up. Minja before 1.8. Knives out. I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS? --. . - + ..-. ..- -.-. -.- . -..
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2711	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:44:00 - [65] - Quote maxovrkll wrote: Anyone who complains about the cloak doesnt realize the skill it takes to use and the sacrife to cpu and pg. It is nearly impossible to use out of proto, meaning if your spotted and your paper armor is shredded you lost at least 100k. You are simply being outplayed. Please tell me the skill required to use the cloak. Please!!! And you can't use the skill required to be a scout...just let me know of the skill used when operating a cloak weRideNDie2getha since 2010 (https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts)
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 4966	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:45:00 - [66] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: hackingmini wrote: is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! preach Come on, you can't honestly agree with this guy? He's just spouting the same whiner bullshit everyone always does about new assets. And doing it in a "I'M GONNA QUIT" thread while he's at it. This is as bad as that guy saying we should remove vehicles from Ambush and make them cost WP in all other modes. Can't honestly agree with what? That cloaks are cheesy? Cloaks are cheesy...you can't honestly disagree with it. But you have to agree that this guy is seriously over-reacting. Hell, the number of cloakers has actually been going down as some people realize they can't get away with it with basic skills. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2712	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:57:00 - [67] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: hackingmini wrote: is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! preach Come on, you can't honestly agree with this guy? He's just spouting the same whiner bullshit everyone always does about new assets. And doing it in a "I'M GONNA QUIT" thread while he's at it. This is as bad as that guy saying we should remove vehicles from Ambush and make them cost WP in all other modes. Can't honestly agree with what? That cloaks are cheesy? Cloaks are cheesy...you can't honestly disagree with it. But you have to agree that this guy is seriously over-reacting. Hell, the number of cloakers has actually been going down as some people realize they can't get away with it with basic skills. overreacting? nah, I can't say that either. People stop playing games because of cheesy mechanics. It's not fun to die to cheesy ****. In the same manner that it isn't fun for new players to get stomped all the time. Anyone that leaves because of any of these things...I can sympathize with. weRideNDie2getha since 2010 (https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts)
Espeon Bons Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 89	Posted - 2014.03.30 11:35:00 - [68] - Quote hackingmini wrote: is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! Stop whining and ride the wave :) I QQ for respec. :)


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