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Denn Maell
PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives
239
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Posted - 2014.03.29 07:13:00 -
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hackingmini wrote:is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job!
I'll admit cloaks were an unnecessary gimmick, but this game has had problems LONG beforeGǪ
The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field:
One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
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nelo kazuma
Da Short Buss Driving School
3
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Posted - 2014.03.29 07:23:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Ummm.... Use your eyes? We're not exactly invisible, you know. i agree with him the only things wrong with the cloaks ( and ccp is working on) is the scouts still being cloaked while they switch to a shotgun and fire one shot or 2. Not everything perfect the moment it comes out remember fac screwing up at first but hey they got it mostly down now. Other than that they do need something like this scouts have been underpowered for the longest and very very very few people knew how to use them right but they die in a few seconds hell i smashed a bunch of scouts with my mass driver who thought theyd sneak up on me. everythings got a counter to it now scouts u got splash damage weapons cuz they speedy heavys play the distance with rail or scout up close to them. assualts are nuetral so they can match a scout if done right n heavys. logis RE or several diffrent combos |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad.
1429
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Posted - 2014.03.29 07:42:00 -
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hackingmini wrote:is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job!
why can't you scan them?
get off my obstacle?
eatsbabies cienfuegos
steward of the renegade alliance.
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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
953
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Posted - 2014.03.29 08:50:00 -
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Don't get me wrong I do think that cloaks are OP, particularly the timer on that thing that lasts forever (this coming from a long time dedicated scout).
However, when someone starts a thread with "is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout...." I just dismiss whatever argument that comes next because I know it is coming from a little crying girl who had her win button taken away.
PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8.
That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
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Michael Cratar
Fenrir's Wolves
308
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Posted - 2014.03.29 08:56:00 -
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hackingmini wrote:is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job!
Fun fact. I came back because of cloaks. Your argument is invalid ( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦).
The question is not if I can or can not, but who is going to stop me?
Closed Beta Vet
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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
955
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Posted - 2014.03.29 08:59:00 -
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Gemini Cuspid wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Nothing wrong with cloaks, they are 99% perfect. Please don't change them, I played all day and I can't count how many laughs and giggle I heard on coms. Everyone but a select few love them and that is how it should be, if they weren't hated by some then they would be UP.
The shimmer while moving, timer, decloak sound and hit markers while cloaked are good hard counters. Playing in a squad and a little more situational awareness negates most cloaks and high fitting costs means tanks and cloaks don't go together all that well. The cloaks make the scouts fun and in the right hands very dangerous, working as intended in my eyes. GOOD JOB to the CPM and CCP for giving us something fun. For the record, it's an obvious lie when there are reported glitches on the shotgun getting 2 shots off. Having "awareness" isn't as meaningful when you take into account overall buffs to scout-type dropsuits, fittings that allow for 400-770+ HP with a cloak and a proto shotgun. If we were talking about the overall function of scouts, it's that TOO SCOUT! Is the scout needing to be a silent ninja who can actually advance far into enemy territory and stay there and kill tons of players without need of support? That isn't what the scout role is supposed to do. It is fun for those whom it advantages, it always is. But I plain flat out don't like things that make the game silly. Maybe instead of nova knives they can make it a ninja katana and it'll make more sense then. CCP has one problem and that's interpretting game balance as buffing this and nerfing that. Game balance in FPS games is about what negates what. You shouldn't need 9 proto remotes to take out a decked out Gunlogi, something I find wrong with that actually. Scouts and Heavies shouldn't be the only two roles players are limited too. Stealth kills are fun and awesome at times but we've just taken the reverse and instead of how snipers dominated counterstrike, we actually reposition the game that makes sense. Here's a weird thought, how about we take the idea of balance created by negating abilities. An active scanner would've been a great counter against cloaks and this kind of reveals CCP's silly direction on "balance". How about heavies still get their high defense but get true short range weapons. How about railguns have a dramatic pitfall on damage when using at close range to avoid them being a de-facto shotgun. How about we investigate how scouts can have the same HP as an assault suit and probably try to make modules fit that avoid this issue. The point is CCP tries to Introduce "new" stuff and ends up trying to nerf other stuff only to say "the game needed balancing". I played EvE for 3 years so it's not like I hate their guts. But holycrap, THEY CAN'T MAKE A FPS SHOOTER GAME WORK. And here's my biggest gripe, you're game is not working as intended when kills count more to a player than winning. I'm getting sick of winning and loosing because ppl are afraid to lower their K/D ratio. Everyone one of us has seen this multiple matches. That's maybe why I loathe this game more and more; it had huge potential but has no sense of identity or direction. If the fix to a problem is "we'll change this and add this new item" its like they're not even taking the effort to really think things through.
I agree with you to a point. You comments with respect to scouts actually amount to a nerf hammer. You can't ask for nerf to both cloaks and HP at the same time and stick to the dead horse of "scout is supposed to gather info and not score kills" - everyone can see that in an FPS it makes no sense. There is just no such role, no need to "gather intel".
Scouts are supposed to have very short range, good stealth, LOW hp, and high damage. Period. The only thing that's broken about them right now is the ability to put a lot of HP on them.
PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8.
That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
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Regis Blackbird
DUST University Ivy League
138
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Posted - 2014.03.29 09:03:00 -
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- Increase shimmer when fluxed. - Add a small activation cost on top of the constant drain to discourage quick cloak - gun - cloak play.
Fixed... |
RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
407
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Posted - 2014.03.29 09:07:00 -
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RAAAAAGGGGEEEEE for the CLACKS!
We can pickle that.
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
396
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Posted - 2014.03.29 09:12:00 -
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maxovrkll wrote:Anyone who complains about the cloak doesnt realize the skill it takes to use and the sacrife to cpu and pg. It is nearly impossible to use out of proto, meaning if your spotted and your paper armor is shredded you lost at least 100k. You are simply being outplayed.
Wow. "It takes skill" to be given an EXTRA ability to be mostly invisible? LOL Dust player logic right there. Dude 800-900+ hp scouts with an extra equip slot, a ton of passive abilities and a cloaking device and you guys think that takes skill?
I love what CCP have done with scouts but AS PER f**king usual, there needs to be BALANCING!
My god Dust users really do take the biscuit. |
Stupid Blueberry
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
103
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Posted - 2014.03.29 09:12:00 -
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Travis Stanush wrote:hackingmini wrote:is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing clacks, this is effing bullshit, claks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! Clacking scouts are fuxxing billclack Clack
OMFG NO ONE ELSE WILL EVER KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS <3 |
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Stupid Blueberry
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
107
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Posted - 2014.03.29 09:13:00 -
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Travis Stanush wrote:hackingmini wrote:is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing clacks, this is effing bullshit, claks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! Clacking scouts are fuxxing billclack Clack
Where is that thread so I can bump it? |
Travis Stanush
GunFall Mobilization
37
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Posted - 2014.03.29 18:50:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:Travis Stanush wrote:hackingmini wrote:is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing clacks, this is effing bullshit, claks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! Clacking scouts are fuxxing billclack Clack Where is that thread so I can bump it? Here you go |
Scheneighnay McBob
Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
4540
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Posted - 2014.03.29 19:04:00 -
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If they aren't cloaked, they're MUCH easier to scan this build.
If they're moving, they're easy to see.
I am your scan error.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
770
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Posted - 2014.03.29 19:07:00 -
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hackingmini wrote:is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! *yawns at the noobs spamming cloak is op or broken topics*
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME
1141
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Posted - 2014.03.29 19:15:00 -
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Isk please, actually alot of people logged on.
Assassination is my thing.
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highimgay 123456
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.03.29 19:33:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Ummm.... Use your eyes? We're not exactly invisible, you know. No WE are pretty invisible...... When standing still in a corner with a sg and hitting weapon swap and ohkilling before the decloak animation finishes... |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1508
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Posted - 2014.03.29 19:47:00 -
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hackingmini wrote:is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! Pauses replaying Fallout 3.
Looks foreward to E3 2014 for a lot of PS4 games and hopefully the posibility of buying a PS4 instead of sorry its sold out, sold out , PS4 SOLD OUT!!
Continues replaying Fallout 3.
Hey CCP get a PS4 client
Planetside 2 in June on PS4
Dust Deserters Alliance
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1508
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Posted - 2014.03.29 19:50:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:hackingmini wrote:is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! *yawns at the noobs spamming cloak is op or broken topics*
Yawns at those spaming cloaks thinking that gungame equals hiding in a corner camping and OHK kills with a shotgun .
Crutch.
Hey CCP get a PS4 client
Planetside 2 in June on PS4
Dust Deserters Alliance
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
960
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Posted - 2014.03.29 19:51:00 -
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highimgay 123456 wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Ummm.... Use your eyes? We're not exactly invisible, you know. No WE are pretty invisible...... When standing still in a corner with a sg and hitting weapon swap and ohkilling before the decloak animation finishes... Only cowards use that tactic. That is, only cowards use that tactic EXCLUSIVELY. I use it when I'm being chased.
I don't need luck, I have a cloak.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
CEO of We Who Walk Alone
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neausea 1987
R 0 N 1 N
83
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Posted - 2014.03.29 23:02:00 -
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did somebody call captain QQ what the babies gonna do bruh.......hands him kleenex and flies away.
GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ ....... (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ i need more QQ tears MORE!!!!!!
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
772
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Posted - 2014.03.29 23:13:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:hackingmini wrote:is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! *yawns at the noobs spamming cloak is op or broken topics* Yawns at those spaming cloaks thinking that gungame equals hiding in a corner camping and OHK kills with a shotgun . Crutch. *laughs at how mr. Noob cant see the cloak and instakill the scout* Noob
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
1039
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Posted - 2014.03.29 23:16:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:This... This has to be a joke. This can't NOT be a joke. No one can be this stupid.
Its possible. Just remember to check your IQ on the way out.
Proficiency V in rage and No-Scopes
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Gemini Cuspid
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2014.03.30 04:27:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:Gemini Cuspid wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Nothing wrong with cloaks, they are 99% perfect. Please don't change them, I played all day and I can't count how many laughs and giggle I heard on coms. Everyone but a select few love them and that is how it should be, if they weren't hated by some then they would be UP.
The shimmer while moving, timer, decloak sound and hit markers while cloaked are good hard counters. Playing in a squad and a little more situational awareness negates most cloaks and high fitting costs means tanks and cloaks don't go together all that well. The cloaks make the scouts fun and in the right hands very dangerous, working as intended in my eyes. GOOD JOB to the CPM and CCP for giving us something fun. For the record, it's an obvious lie when there are reported glitches on the shotgun getting 2 shots off. Having "awareness" isn't as meaningful when you take into account overall buffs to scout-type dropsuits, fittings that allow for 400-770+ HP with a cloak and a proto shotgun. If we were talking about the overall function of scouts, it's that TOO SCOUT! Is the scout needing to be a silent ninja who can actually advance far into enemy territory and stay there and kill tons of players without need of support? That isn't what the scout role is supposed to do. It is fun for those whom it advantages, it always is. But I plain flat out don't like things that make the game silly. Maybe instead of nova knives they can make it a ninja katana and it'll make more sense then. CCP has one problem and that's interpretting game balance as buffing this and nerfing that. Game balance in FPS games is about what negates what. You shouldn't need 9 proto remotes to take out a decked out Gunlogi, something I find wrong with that actually. Scouts and Heavies shouldn't be the only two roles players are limited too. Stealth kills are fun and awesome at times but we've just taken the reverse and instead of how snipers dominated counterstrike, we actually reposition the game that makes sense. Here's a weird thought, how about we take the idea of balance created by negating abilities. An active scanner would've been a great counter against cloaks and this kind of reveals CCP's silly direction on "balance". How about heavies still get their high defense but get true short range weapons. How about railguns have a dramatic pitfall on damage when using at close range to avoid them being a de-facto shotgun. How about we investigate how scouts can have the same HP as an assault suit and probably try to make modules fit that avoid this issue. The point is CCP tries to Introduce "new" stuff and ends up trying to nerf other stuff only to say "the game needed balancing". I played EvE for 3 years so it's not like I hate their guts. But holycrap, THEY CAN'T MAKE A FPS SHOOTER GAME WORK. And here's my biggest gripe, you're game is not working as intended when kills count more to a player than winning. I'm getting sick of winning and loosing because ppl are afraid to lower their K/D ratio. Everyone one of us has seen this multiple matches. That's maybe why I loathe this game more and more; it had huge potential but has no sense of identity or direction. If the fix to a problem is "we'll change this and add this new item" its like they're not even taking the effort to really think things through. I agree with you to a point. You comments with respect to scouts actually amount to a nerf hammer. You can't ask for nerf to both cloaks and HP at the same time and stick to the dead horse of "scout is supposed to gather info and not score kills" - everyone can see that in an FPS it makes no sense. There is just no such role, no need to "gather intel". Scouts are supposed to have very short range, good stealth, LOW hp, and high damage. Period. The only thing that's broken about them right now is the ability to put a lot of HP on them.
The nerf to HP is a given. The problem with cloaks are not addressing how you can get 2 shots off before it gets removed. That's a glitch and one being exploited pretty heavily that players are on the fence with how many are doing it actively versus unknowingly. As my point was earlier, with the change to active scanners it amounts to scouts being more free to move around with the lowest amount of detection than ever possible. Worse yet add to passive scanning abilities to be shared then that's the overall picture: a scout that's been harder to detect and kill than ever before in the game.
That's the problem with scouts overall: changes to both active scanners and improved scout builds with cloaks means they get boosted in stealth to significantly high levels. That's a problem that goes hand-in-hand whether you want to accept it or not and was a problem solely created by the overall adjustments in equipment and to scout. |
noobsniper the 2nd
POISION ROSES Galactic Skyfleet Empire
355
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Posted - 2014.03.30 04:32:00 -
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tander09 wrote:I'm okay with cloaks unless the cloakers are using SHOTTYS!! OH COME ON GROW SOME BALLS TO SHOOT A SHOTTY WHILE UNCLOAKED! I for 1 do... Sometimes *runs away giggling*
"things are made of stuff"-Bill Nye
MAG vet raven ftw
Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
4966
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Posted - 2014.03.30 04:35:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:This... This has to be a joke. This can't NOT be a joke. No one can be this stupid. It's not. People are actually this mad.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
422
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Posted - 2014.03.30 04:39:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:hackingmini wrote:is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! Pauses replaying Fallout 3. Looks foreward to E3 2014 for a lot of PS4 games and hopefully the posibility of buying a PS4 instead of sorry its sold out, sold out , PS4 SOLD OUT!! Continues replaying Fallout 3.
Dude, I have every trophy on Fallout 3 except that stupid ******* one for the ingots in that crappy Pitt DLC. I'm glad I stil have the platinum trophy anyway.
BTW CCP...I like trophies. It keeps the OCD people occupied for ever.
We can pickle that.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
2711
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Posted - 2014.03.30 05:07:00 -
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hackingmini wrote:is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job!
preach
weRideNDie2getha since 2010
(https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts)
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
4966
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Posted - 2014.03.30 05:09:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:hackingmini wrote:is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! preach Come on, you can't honestly agree with this guy? He's just spouting the same whiner bullshit everyone always does about new assets.
And doing it in a "I'M GONNA QUIT" thread while he's at it. This is as bad as that guy saying we should remove vehicles from Ambush and make them cost WP in all other modes.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
32
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Posted - 2014.03.30 05:09:00 -
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I can't stand the cloaks either but I have discovered that scouts dont like explosives being shoved down their throat. Plasma Cannon and Mass Driver FTW
Favoring High Latency Is Sh*t
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
32
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Posted - 2014.03.30 05:10:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:hackingmini wrote:is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! preach Come on, you can't honestly agree with this guy? He's just spouting the same whiner bullshit everyone always does about new assets. And doing it in a "I'M GONNA QUIT" thread while he's at it. This is as bad as that guy saying we should remove vehicles from Ambush and make them cost WP in all other modes.
We just have to adapt and they obviously can't
Favoring High Latency Is Sh*t
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