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hackingmini
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:28:00 -
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is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job! |
Supernus Gigas
sNk Syndicate
622
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:34:00 -
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If you're leaving, please give me your Isk. Don't want it going to waste now do we?
I'll make sure it goes to good use shredding scouts with my Six Kin HMG. Cloak or no. 
FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
861
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:35:00 -
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Ummm.... Use your eyes? We're not exactly invisible, you know.
I don't need luck, I have ammo.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
CEO of We Who Walk Alone
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Galm Fae
Eskola Ergonomics
247
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:35:00 -
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This... This has to be a joke. This can't NOT be a joke. No one can be this stupid.
"On the Leviathan's back will our civilization be carried home and the taint of the Enemy purged from our souls."
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VAHZZ
Gallente Federation
434
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:36:00 -
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THE DREAM HAS COME TRUE!!...and i am not able to see it a reality...
It..is a hollow victory..
You can see the sarcasm no?
The merc with a mouth - beware of random bouts of insanity! - and trolling
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Proud Sniper Scout
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
1347
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:36:00 -
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Let them leave, the less horrible blueberries around the better I say
The Sinwarden
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Dimitri Rascolovitch
The Immortal Knights
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:37:00 -
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hackingmini wrote:is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job!
the cloaks didnt make this update bad, the unbalanced HMG, and "TTK fixes" did
and this is coming from a HMG (prof 3) user since 1.3
...Yeah, i use a heavy machine gun, and I think i do a Damn good job at it.
i eat babies
forum warrior Lv0
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
Lokun Listamenn
3731
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:38:00 -
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Like the old lady from Bioshock says
"We can see you, ya know?"
They not that hard to look for. Gotta use some brain and caution.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
7665
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:39:00 -
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If cloaks ruin the game, then why is halo so successful?
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
12565
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:40:00 -
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My main complaint is that flux grenades don't knock them out of cloak. It's a freaking EMP.
Maken Tosch wrote:If cloaks ruin the game, then why is halo so successful?
Master Chief, awesome music, aliens, Master Chief
"It seems you've mistaken me for someone who cares"
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hackingmini
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:41:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:If cloaks ruin the game, then why is halo so successful?
halo isn't successful because of cloaks |
xSir Campsalotx
G0DS AM0NG MEN
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
162
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:45:00 -
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Lol unbalanced HMG! You are not a true heavy... Have my prof 5, 3 reloading 3 ammo and 3 pg optimization and had a 7kdr running a std HMG most of the time, now I'm a scout because I knew heavies would suffer this update with the huge influx of scouts. Twig men are OP this update...
G0DS AM0NG MEN Director
1.8 is going to be Heavy 514 they said... Looking around all I see are twig men
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Dimitri Rascolovitch
The Immortal Knights
133
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:56:00 -
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xSir Campsalotx wrote:Lol unbalanced HMG! You are not a true heavy... Have my prof 5, 3 reloading 3 ammo and 3 pg optimization and had a 7kdr running a std HMG most of the time, now I'm a scout because I knew heavies would suffer this update with the huge influx of scouts. Twig men are OP this update...
prof 3 ammo 3 reload 3
and yet almost EVERY time i die its either to an HMG or a fatsuit using his sidearm
rarely to the paper mache ninjas comparatively
...Yeah, i use a heavy machine gun, and I think i do a Damn good job at it.
i eat babies
forum warrior Lv0
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VAHZZ
Gallente Federation
435
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:57:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:If cloaks ruin the game, then why is halo so successful?
Halo haz cloaks?...dafuq man
The merc with a mouth - beware of random bouts of insanity! - and trolling
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Proud Sniper Scout
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
1636
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:02:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:If cloaks ruin the game, then why is halo so successful?
crysis 2 & 3
killzone shadow fall
GÇ£Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am dampened.GÇ¥
Ko6 scout,
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
7666
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:03:00 -
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hackingmini wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:If cloaks ruin the game, then why is halo so successful? halo isn't successful because of cloaks
Read again. If a claim is made that cloaks ruin a game, then I need an explanation as to why and how halo wasn't ruined by the cloak mechanic since halo 3.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
12566
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:05:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:hackingmini wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:If cloaks ruin the game, then why is halo so successful? halo isn't successful because of cloaks Read again. If a claim is made that cloaks ruin a game, then I need an explanation as to why and how halo wasn't ruined by the cloak mechanic since halo 3.
The radar jamming effect was a big balancing factor. In dust, you can be invisible AND see exactly where the enemy is. Before that it was a limited use semi random pickup with a fairly short life span.
"It seems you've mistaken me for someone who cares"
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maxovrkll
F.M.O- Free Mercenaries Organization
45
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:06:00 -
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Anyone who complains about the cloak doesnt realize the skill it takes to use and the sacrife to cpu and pg. It is nearly impossible to use out of proto, meaning if your spotted and your paper armor is shredded you lost at least 100k. You are simply being outplayed. |
abarkrishna
WarRavens
348
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:09:00 -
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In halo you de-cloaked when you were shot.
No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2.
When will they learn!
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tander09
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
61
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Posted - 2014.03.26 09:05:00 -
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I'm okay with cloaks unless the cloakers are using SHOTTYS!! OH COME ON GROW SOME BALLS TO SHOOT A SHOTTY WHILE UNCLOAKED!
Touch my BPO Gear, and you shall perish in the thrusters of a AMARR TITAN!!!!!!!
AMARRIAN4LYFE!
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2014.03.26 09:13:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:If cloaks ruin the game, then why is halo so successful? crysis 2 & 3 killzone shadow fall
Transformers: War For Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron. |
Gemini Cuspid
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.26 09:20:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:knight of 6 wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:If cloaks ruin the game, then why is halo so successful? crysis 2 & 3 killzone shadow fall Transformers: War For Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron.
Isn't Halo the only real shooter that Xbox had honestly? PS3 had Unchartered and MAG. I think tons of players are defaulted to playing Dust because there is a real low number of FPS games out there in general. |
D0DGETHiS zDOG
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.26 09:27:00 -
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I dont think cloaks have completely ruined the game. Planetside had them many moons ago. But they were really balanced. They had low HP, used speed as their armour, and the battlefield wasnt covered with them!
Atm it seems some scout cloaks are running round with 700+ hp! Can fade into nothing, and can run some powerful weapons. Along with the fact that due to bugz they can get 2 shotgun shots off before decloak. Unfortunately flux grens dont expose them and reset their cloaks. And also that ive now seen commandos with cloaks on! Its a bit daft. Once the few issues are rectified. They can then be used correctly.
Just gotta hope that the player base exists till then........ |
Ripper Rouge
Maphia Clan Corporation
237
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Posted - 2014.03.26 09:44:00 -
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the real problem here,is that ppl doesn't de-cloack when shotted,and that yesterday i was killed few times by cloacked's peopl!
f**k,this cloack doesn't work.....
recipes.........recipes everywhere.........
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Lowkiie
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
60
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Posted - 2014.03.26 09:48:00 -
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Cloaks have not ruined the game, Their Active and recharge time have. It needs some nerfing. 60s is wayyy to long for it to be active, they also recharge wayyy to fast. Slow the recharge, lower the active times and and lower the reactivate % to. |
Zirzo Valcyn
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
307
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Posted - 2014.03.26 09:53:00 -
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hackingmini wrote:is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of COD players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job!
fixed
u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
forum warrior .189
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The Robot Devil
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
2157
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Posted - 2014.03.26 10:08:00 -
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Nothing wrong with cloaks, they are 99% perfect. Please don't change them, I played all day and I can't count how many laughs and giggle I heard on coms. Everyone but a select few love them and that is how it should be, if they weren't hated by some then they would be UP.
The shimmer while moving, timer, decloak sound and hit markers while cloaked are good hard counters. Playing in a squad and a little more situational awareness negates most cloaks and high fitting costs means tanks and cloaks don't go together all that well. The cloaks make the scouts fun and in the right hands very dangerous, working as intended in my eyes. GOOD JOB to the CPM and CCP for giving us something fun.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Den-tredje Baron
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
256
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Posted - 2014.03.26 10:19:00 -
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hackingmini wrote:is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing cloaks, this is effing bullshit, cloaks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job!
Actually everybody loves cloaks and scouts have finally gotten their "kick" back.
But hey can i haz your isk  |
Gemini Cuspid
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:56:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Nothing wrong with cloaks, they are 99% perfect. Please don't change them, I played all day and I can't count how many laughs and giggle I heard on coms. Everyone but a select few love them and that is how it should be, if they weren't hated by some then they would be UP.
The shimmer while moving, timer, decloak sound and hit markers while cloaked are good hard counters. Playing in a squad and a little more situational awareness negates most cloaks and high fitting costs means tanks and cloaks don't go together all that well. The cloaks make the scouts fun and in the right hands very dangerous, working as intended in my eyes. GOOD JOB to the CPM and CCP for giving us something fun.
For the record, it's an obvious lie when there are reported glitches on the shotgun getting 2 shots off. Having "awareness" isn't as meaningful when you take into account overall buffs to scout-type dropsuits, fittings that allow for 400-770+ HP with a cloak and a proto shotgun.
If we were talking about the overall function of scouts, it's that TOO SCOUT! Is the scout needing to be a silent ninja who can actually advance far into enemy territory and stay there and kill tons of players without need of support? That isn't what the scout role is supposed to do. It is fun for those whom it advantages, it always is. But I plain flat out don't like things that make the game silly. Maybe instead of nova knives they can make it a ninja katana and it'll make more sense then.
CCP has one problem and that's interpretting game balance as buffing this and nerfing that. Game balance in FPS games is about what negates what. You shouldn't need 9 proto remotes to take out a decked out Gunlogi, something I find wrong with that actually. Scouts and Heavies shouldn't be the only two roles players are limited too. Stealth kills are fun and awesome at times but we've just taken the reverse and instead of how snipers dominated counterstrike, we actually reposition the game that makes sense.
Here's a weird thought, how about we take the idea of balance created by negating abilities. An active scanner would've been a great counter against cloaks and this kind of reveals CCP's silly direction on "balance". How about heavies still get their high defense but get true short range weapons. How about railguns have a dramatic pitfall on damage when using at close range to avoid them being a de-facto shotgun. How about we investigate how scouts can have the same HP as an assault suit and probably try to make modules fit that avoid this issue.
The point is CCP tries to Introduce "new" stuff and ends up trying to nerf other stuff only to say "the game needed balancing". I played EvE for 3 years so it's not like I hate their guts. But holycrap, THEY CAN'T MAKE A FPS SHOOTER GAME WORK.
And here's my biggest gripe, you're game is not working as intended when kills count more to a player than winning. I'm getting sick of winning and loosing because ppl are afraid to lower their K/D ratio. Everyone one of us has seen this multiple matches. That's maybe why I loathe this game more and more; it had huge potential but has no sense of identity or direction. If the fix to a problem is "we'll change this and add this new item" its like they're not even taking the effort to really think things through. |
Travis Stanush
GunFall Mobilization
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Posted - 2014.03.29 07:02:00 -
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hackingmini wrote:is it not bad enough you can't scan a scout, now you have to go and give them effing clacks, this is effing bullshit, claks just ruined the game completely. say goodbye to the majority of players CCP you really screwed the pooch this time, Great job!
Clacking scouts are fuxxing billclack
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