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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
7352
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Posted - 2014.03.13 20:25:00 -
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Proto Annihilator wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Each account nets you 1.5 milliion ISK per day per 5-6 minutes, so it's just up to you how much time you want to put into it.
Also, all the ISK is tracked, so do try to be sly about it.
::continues eating popcorn:: Why isn't everyone doing this? There has to be a catch.
The catch is that if you get caught you suffer a ban, your ISK gets taken away from you and, if you spent that exploited ISK on assets, your assets will get taken as well. It's not worth it.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Proto Annihilator
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
74
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Posted - 2014.03.13 20:29:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Proto Annihilator wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Each account nets you 1.5 milliion ISK per day per 5-6 minutes, so it's just up to you how much time you want to put into it.
Also, all the ISK is tracked, so do try to be sly about it.
::continues eating popcorn:: Why isn't everyone doing this? There has to be a catch. The catch is that if you get caught you suffer a ban, your ISK gets taken away from you and, if you spent that exploited ISK on assets, your assets will get taken as well. It's not worth it.
Did it happen to you? |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
3005
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Posted - 2014.03.13 20:32:00 -
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Is this breaking news?
Really is this something that has been kept in the dark for so long?
Selling Templar BPO's 250Mil Last of the BPO's(Click link)
I feed off your tears
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Regis Blackbird
DUST University
Ivy League
121
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Posted - 2014.03.13 20:35:00 -
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I believe it's CCP policy to never respond openly regarding game exploits, so good luck getting a blue tag.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
2035
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Posted - 2014.03.13 20:38:00 -
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howard sanchez wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Oh so thats what thread was about
I know someone who currently recycles about 30charas on 10 PSN accounts, i think he spends more time doing that than playing the game Mr Kashuken, Would you agree with the article's author that this kind of behavior, when practiced by many players, could contribute to substantial economic and gameplay imbalance for DUST and, eventually EVE? CCP, anything to add?
It's not going to affect Eve. The ISK in Eve as compared to Dust is astronomical. even 10 million ISK a day isn't a big deal (at all) in Eve.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
7352
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Posted - 2014.03.13 20:39:00 -
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Proto Annihilator wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Proto Annihilator wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Each account nets you 1.5 milliion ISK per day per 5-6 minutes, so it's just up to you how much time you want to put into it.
Also, all the ISK is tracked, so do try to be sly about it.
::continues eating popcorn:: Why isn't everyone doing this? There has to be a catch. The catch is that if you get caught you suffer a ban, your ISK gets taken away from you and, if you spent that exploited ISK on assets, your assets will get taken as well. It's not worth it. Did it happen to you?
No, because I never dared to try it. I'm not like "THAT GUY" who goes out of his way to do everything illegal just to progress. I play fair and square and I earned my 20 million ISK honestly by actually playing.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Proto Annihilator
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
75
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Posted - 2014.03.13 20:41:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Proto Annihilator wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Proto Annihilator wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Each account nets you 1.5 milliion ISK per day per 5-6 minutes, so it's just up to you how much time you want to put into it.
Also, all the ISK is tracked, so do try to be sly about it.
::continues eating popcorn:: Why isn't everyone doing this? There has to be a catch. The catch is that if you get caught you suffer a ban, your ISK gets taken away from you and, if you spent that exploited ISK on assets, your assets will get taken as well. It's not worth it. Did it happen to you? No, because I never dared to try it. I'm not like "THAT GUY" who goes out of his way to do everything illegal just to progress. I play fair and square and I earned my 20 million ISK honestly by actually playing.
Dust fiend earns that in just over an hour farming alts. |
Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University
Ivy League
619
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Posted - 2014.03.13 20:54:00 -
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DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/
EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
13380
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Posted - 2014.03.13 20:55:00 -
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CCP is aware.
Good luck hiding.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
2036
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Posted - 2014.03.13 20:57:00 -
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If I was a conspiracy theorist, I'd suggest that among the reasons that this "loophole" exists, as well as the PC locking issue, is that CCP would like Dust players to build up an ISK pile that is not inconsequential relative to Eve so that once there actually is some market integration Dust won't be completely destabilized by Eve ISK.
..but I'm not a conspiracy theorist  |
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Villanor Aquarius
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
147
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Posted - 2014.03.13 21:00:00 -
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Eve has a tutorial system where you do learning missions and rewards are meager amounts of isk and the skillbooks that every newbie needs. Implementing a more guided, use this feature in the next match type tutorial where early useful skillbooks are paid out as "salvage" rewards or whatever would be good. Thus new characters could come with much less isk, and still grow quickly and effectively through active play.
Also this gives new players more guidance as they start the game. |
Beld Errmon
Nyain Chan
1425
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Posted - 2014.03.13 21:08:00 -
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I doubt they'll ban anyone that hasn't been warned before, but lots of negative wallets... yeah that will be both funny and well earned. |
SPESHULz
The Southern Legion
29
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Posted - 2014.03.14 09:24:00 -
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It seems like the stats in the article are assuming all new characters are doing this. I have started a couple alts and going through the academy there is always at least 1 or 2 full BA doms running on each sever 32x3 servers is more then 96 new players online. There are also a lot of random letter number names running around in BA and pubs.
Lord High Commander
Maths is OP. It is all those numbers flying around that kills you.
Forum Warrior lvl 0.02
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The Headless Horseman
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
47
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Posted - 2014.03.14 12:30:00 -
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Regis Blackbird wrote:I believe it's CCP policy to never respond openly regarding game exploits, so good luck getting a blue tag.
Oh, a blue tag WILL be here. Unless he uses his ninja hammer.
Signed, Sealed, Delivered
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
1787
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Posted - 2014.03.14 13:51:00 -
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CCP has to have been aware of this from the very beginning. In beta and at launch they would have been watching these numbers and many more we don't have access to like a hawk.
The current state of affairs exists because at some level ignoring this practice is in CCP's best interest - or has been up until now.
I support SP rollover.
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
2135
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Posted - 2014.03.14 13:57:00 -
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SPESHULz wrote:It seems like the stats in the article are assuming all new characters are doing this. I have started a couple alts and going through the academy there is always at least 1 or 2 full BA doms running on each sever 32x3 servers is more then 96 new players online. There are also a lot of random letter number names running around in BA and pubs.
the thing is with the proper soloution implemented it really doesn't matter who is doing it or not, you can stop the people doing it without ever effecting any other new player experience. |
Hoover Damn
H.A.R.V.E.S.T.
Legacy Rising
68
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Posted - 2014.03.14 13:59:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Whatever happens I hope they take a firm stance on this, perma ban the offenders and revert as much of the ISK as possible.
Banning would make reverting the ISK pointless. Unless you mean a temp ban. |
howard sanchez
Sanchez Cartage llc
870
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Posted - 2014.03.14 14:25:00 -
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As some have mentioned CCP often doesn't make public statements regarding exploits.
The fact that CCP shanghai rarely makes public statements in general notwithstanding I was pleased to see response to this thread by a CPM0 member stating that "CCP is aware"
Good enough for me. Our representatives to CCP have stated that developers are aware of this game imbalancing behavior. Thanks IWS, if CCP won't acknowledge that this is really happening and that they will fix it, I am relieved to hear such from the CPM |
Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
1793
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Posted - 2014.03.14 14:33:00 -
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howard sanchez wrote:As some have mentioned CCP often doesn't make public statements regarding exploits.
The fact that CCP shanghai rarely makes public statements in general notwithstanding I was pleased to see response to this thread by a CPM0 member stating that "CCP is aware"
Good enough for me. Our representatives to CCP have stated that developers are aware of this game imbalancing behavior. Thanks IWS, if CCP won't acknowledge that this is really happening and that they will fix it, I am relieved to hear such from the CPM
Well said. This is a perfect example of the CPM performing in its intended role - it's issues like this where the playerbase genuinely needs the CPM to represent our interests to CCP.
I support SP rollover.
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
207
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Posted - 2014.03.14 14:39:00 -
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Huh. I didn't actually know this was a banable offence. Done it a few times myself (Probably about 5-6 times total) but wasn't aware that it was against the rules.  Guess this means no more academy matches. A few Isk sure isn't worth my account. 
Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!
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howard sanchez
Sanchez Cartage llc
871
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Posted - 2014.03.14 14:48:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:Huh. I didn't actually know this was a banable offence. Done it a few times myself (Probably about 5-6 times total) but wasn't aware that it was against the rules. Guess this means no more academy matches. A few Isk sure isn't worth my account.
Playbase seems to be getting ahead of itself when everyone wants to post recommendations for a solution at this point.
Put the pitchforks and torches away you clones!
First step is to get recognition from the company that this news article (op) is factual enough to warrant action.
What that action is should be up to CCP. I was posting this thread to 1) raise playerbase awareness of the potential issue and 2) pressure CCP into publically ( on these forums anyway) acknowledging and committing to act
CPM0 has stated that the company is aware of the problem and will likely act
CCP Shanghai continues to limit developer ( and executive producer) interaction with the community so a lack of blue response is not surprising.
I once again thank the CPM for filling that gap and I look forward future action that will enhance fair play and economic balance that is crucial to DUST's success |
Sum1ne Else
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
1006
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Posted - 2014.03.14 15:10:00 -
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Yup, its a way of making ISK because there is no ISK reward in this game. When you have 30m SP and only 40m ISK; therefore not able to run proto gear or use any of the items I have skilled into its hard not to do this. I have never done this because Im not like that. But when you see corps who only run proto gear in games because of their ISK generating planetary conquest exploit and have billions of ISK in the corp wallet (and have been exploiting in this way since November 2012) I cannot blame the guys that do this. For me its too time consuming.
I have posted numerous times about money making in this game > the response 'run STD gear' > die 10x thats 200k, run ADV gear > die 5x thats 250k, run proto gear > die 3x thats 500k. Every game on AVG gets you 200k -250k. The math just doesnt add up to me. Im just an AVG player, mostly logi (but that gets expensive). I ask myself how do these guys run proto all day long die 5-10 times and still come out on top? I guess its money exploits like this.
It would be nice for CCP to incorporate games based on meta level of suits, or win a game double isk. I see guys padding KDR, not really caring about winning and its just stupid. WL/R should be considered higher than KD/R in my opinion.
A solution maybe to register an email online to make the ALT, and 2 extra slots and not be able to transfer money until they have got 5000 wp or something.
Level 1 Forum Warrior!
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
12240
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Posted - 2014.03.14 15:15:00 -
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Proto Annihilator wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:No, because I never dared to try it. I'm not like "THAT GUY" who goes out of his way to do everything illegal just to progress. I play fair and square and I earned my 20 million ISK honestly by actually playing. Dust fiend earns that in just over an hour farming alts.
Just because I'm aware doesn't mean I'm involved.
I for one would love a print up of my characters life transactions, not only is my ISK all legit, non scam ISK, so are all my likes.
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Toro Navajo
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
52
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Posted - 2014.03.14 21:58:00 -
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