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Posted - 2014.03.13 16:11:00 -
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howard sanchez wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Oh so thats what thread was about
I know someone who currently recycles about 30charas on 10 PSN accounts, i think he spends more time doing that than playing the game Mr Kashuken, Would you agree with the article's author that this kind of behavior, when practiced by many players, could contribute to substantial economic and gameplay imbalance for DUST and, eventually EVE? CCP, anything to add?
[CCP]Saberwing said they're looking into it.
They can easily track everyone who's done it, so hopefully they reverse the ISK and hand out bans. Fixing the issue should be fairly simple.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 16:52:00 -
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Whatever happens I hope they take a firm stance on this, perma ban the offenders and revert as much of the ISK as possible.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:15:00 -
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Atiim wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Whatever happens I hope they take a firm stance on this, perma ban the offenders and revert as much of the ISK as possible. I don't think perma-ban the offenders would be the right course of action. If they perma-ban the people who were abusing this game mechanic to generate ISK from the academy, then they'd also have to perma-ban the people who were abusing game mechanics to generate ISK from DIstrict Locking as well. So that would be what, 80% of the playerbase?  I'd say to remove the ISK of course, but don't perma-ban the players.
While I think district locking was abused, I think it's pretty far from the level of exploit that biomass isk farms represent.
District locking was, in and of itself, intended by CCP. Maybe they didn't intend for it to be so easy, but it was clear to them for a long time that it was happening, and they only just decided it was an issue.
Farming 30 alts a day isn't something that could even remotely be misconstrued as intentional.
It is a clear cut exploit, and people should be punished for it.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:21:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Atiim wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:
Total Wealth reset for all?
All wealth Asset or liquid goes away (aside from things that can only be gained through salvage like Officer weapons) and nothing else gets changed (except for the broken mechanics that allowed the farming to happen).
Kiss Biomass Isk farm Isk goodbye
Kiss Farmville Isk goodbye
Everyone gets a fresh start back to a 0 Wallet balance while retaining their SP, I think that would solve a lot of the problem.
Just don't do it until you've fixed the Farmville stupidity and improved NPE while taking away the starting Isk.
But that would punish those who were wise with their ISK, and earned it legitimately. There's a much better way. IDK, I still like the idea I proposed a few weeks back. Reset everyone's Isk back to 0. For everyday you've been here since the start of Open Beta, you get 1m Isk. For every month you've been here since the start of Open Beta, you get 10m Isk. For each iteration of Uprising you've been here for, you get 25m Isk. If you were here for Uprising 1.0, you get 100m. If you were here for the first day of Open Beta, you get 250m. Only applies to characters who've been active for at least 10 battles over the past two weeks.
I'm not sure why it's such a big deal honestly.
If you haven't been exploiting the system, you have nothing to worry about.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:46:00 -
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Proto Annihilator wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Proto Annihilator wrote:How about they just make the game more profitable than the exploits. You will always have exploits in New Eden. It's half of the game. It seems that they did put a 10 hour wait on this to discourage free isk. Why not do both? Make playing the game more profitable while getting rid of the exploits? CCP doesn't think the same way we do. something that passes their brainstorm and think tanks is circumvented by the community before it even hits the servers. Everyone already has their plans to lock districts and profit if they need to. CCP made it harder to do but not airtight. some things they cant fix or it takes more effort than its worth. Lets say you had 10 alts and used 2 slots on each alt for isk farming. How long would it take to get 100,000,000? how much time would you spend doing it a day? Wouldn't finding a name be hard? Would it be more profitable to run ambush in bpo?To most people its a waste of time. There are some who have nothing but time.
You can earn SIGNIFICANTLY more ISK this way than any other method currently in game.
It's an exploit, period. CCP is looking at it, and at best, those doing this can expect their ISK farm to be shut down, at worst they can kiss all that ISK and possibly their accounts goodbye.
The only way we fix the game is by constantly highlighting these issues and continuously pushing the importance of fixing them to CCP. It may take a while, but progress is made. I for one hope the punishment is swift and harsh, but it probably won't be.
::grabs popcorn::
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:58:00 -
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Proto Annihilator wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Proto Annihilator wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Proto Annihilator wrote:How about they just make the game more profitable than the exploits. You will always have exploits in New Eden. It's half of the game. It seems that they did put a 10 hour wait on this to discourage free isk. Why not do both? Make playing the game more profitable while getting rid of the exploits? CCP doesn't think the same way we do. something that passes their brainstorm and think tanks is circumvented by the community before it even hits the servers. Everyone already has their plans to lock districts and profit if they need to. CCP made it harder to do but not airtight. some things they cant fix or it takes more effort than its worth. Lets say you had 10 alts and used 2 slots on each alt for isk farming. How long would it take to get 100,000,000? how much time would you spend doing it a day? Wouldn't finding a name be hard? Would it be more profitable to run ambush in bpo?To most people its a waste of time. There are some who have nothing but time. You can earn SIGNIFICANTLY more ISK this way than any other method currently in game. It's an exploit, period. CCP is looking at it, and at best, those doing this can expect their ISK farm to be shut down, at worst they can kiss all that ISK and possibly their accounts goodbye. The only way we fix the game is by constantly highlighting these issues and continuously pushing the importance of fixing them to CCP. It may take a while, but progress is made. I for one hope the punishment is swift and harsh, but it probably won't be. ::grabs popcorn:: So you are saying this is worth doing? How much can I make each day? How Many hours will I spend each day "earning" my isk using this method?
Each account nets you 1.5 milliion ISK per day per 5-6 minutes, so it's just up to you how much time you want to put into it.
Also, all the ISK is tracked, so do try to be sly about it.
::continues eating popcorn::
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Posted - 2014.03.14 15:15:00 -
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Proto Annihilator wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:No, because I never dared to try it. I'm not like "THAT GUY" who goes out of his way to do everything illegal just to progress. I play fair and square and I earned my 20 million ISK honestly by actually playing. Dust fiend earns that in just over an hour farming alts.
Just because I'm aware doesn't mean I'm involved.
I for one would love a print up of my characters life transactions, not only is my ISK all legit, non scam ISK, so are all my likes.
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