a milita swarm launcher (which is insanely op btw)

wut

wut

I understand that railguns tanks are extremely unfair but there is literally no other way of killing those things. Don't mention forges - any half decent pilot will evade them and to be quite honest most of them camp objectives.

Sometimes they will do that loop-de-loop around a dropship and randomly decide what side to hit you on, so you can't plan how to correct until after it hits. Really bad if you are near a building, they love to slam you into them.

tell a half decent pilot to evade mine cuz most half decent forgers can hit their target. Proto breach 1 hits all unhardend incubus's and IDK about python with 2555 shield but I can definitely 1 hit the ones with Stock shield and HP.

I have seen good forge gunners fight off multiple assault dropships on their own.

By "fight off" do you mean shoot down, or inconvenience for 15 seconds while the ADS pilot microwarpdrive afterburns to the flight ceiling to fully charge his shields?

I understand that railguns tanks are extremely unfair but there is literally no other way of killing those things. Don't mention forges - any half decent pilot will evade them and to be quite honest most of them camp objectives.

let him prove my point.

ADS's are a Balance issue... Sure railguns have made them near impossible to use... But there is a fundamental problem with them.

You can't shoot out the pilot....

Even if it was just a little window you could land some shots through... And then you could do anything with dropships they are then balanced.

It's the same with GTA 5... you may feel powerful in a Buzzard Attack Helicopter.. But any player can shoot you out of it if your careless. Making the EXTREMELY strong air superiority item balanced.

ADS pilots should be exposed to gunfire... there should be a window they need to see out of...

I understand that railguns tanks are extremely unfair but there is literally no other way of killing those things. Don't mention forges - any half decent pilot will evade them and to be quite honest most of them camp objectives.

I understand that railguns tanks are extremely unfair but there is literally no other way of killing those things. Don't mention forges - any half decent pilot will evade them and to be quite honest most of them camp objectives.

Evade them? I spent an entire match on Ashlands unable to engage infantry at all due to two Forge Gunners up on the ship under part of the scaffold. If I tried to engage them, they'd back up until my launcher had to reload, then pop out and fire in sync.

By the way, those were ADV Forge Guns, not even PRO.

Swarm launchers are bugged somehow and doing about half the damage they should, which you can see from Judge's latest video. Once that is addressed, swarms will once again be a threat.

The issue here isn't the railgun HAVs as much as it is that we're being hit by tanks sitting back in the redline where NO ONE can retaliate against them. As well, because they sit back there, they can forego tank and just stack damage mods to ensure they punch right through any tank you have fitted with 2 shots at the most.

I haven't had much trouble killing pythons and incubi with forge.

If you can't kill ADS with forge guns or at least keep them from doing anything useful then I'm sorry to tell you this, but you need to learn to aim.

I will admit that I have no skill (SP) nor the attraction to the forge but people posting in this thread are still proving my point. There are very little ways of killing a dropship and he can always simply fly away. If you say that I am ignorant - go for it but the irony is apparent. Take a look at ambushes where a dropship pilot is killing every single thing on the field just by hovering in one spot and taking pot shots at people.

because they want easy mode and do not want to invest the time/isk into learning to deal with rails so the best alternative is to cop attitude

Well, what I don't understand is why people don't just pull out some forge guns or swarm launchers and resolve this problem in about 5 seconds. Instead, the just complain that the thing that's ridiculously easy to destroy is killing them, without doing anything about it. I've been piloting dropships as my "main" for about a year now and my secondary role is AV, and I think there's absolutely no question for anyone who's done both that dropships are extremely fragile things. Maybe you personally don't have the capability to deal with them, but that's the choice you've made. Anyone who wants to skill into AV can do so and trust me when I say that proper AV completely ruins a dropship's ability to compete.

That being said, I do actually think that small turrets, in general, are a bit too powerful. I also have to clarify that I rarely actually run ADS, I tend to play more of a logistics type dropships with a CRU and scanners and transporting teammates around the field. Frankly, I think the assault dropships are a bit obnoxious, and remove some of the skill and teamwork previously required to be a successful pilot. That's just a personal gripe though, I suppose it just depends on perspective as to where you fall on that opinion.



That's such a nonsense and inflamatory statement. What time/isk investment exactly would you recommend spending to avoid being 2 shot out of the sky by something sitting 100 meters back into the enemy redline that can hit any spot on the field with pinpoint accuracy?

No one can blame the rail tankers for doing what works, but CCP really does need to do something about it. There should never be a role that can only be countered by someone else with the same role and who is using the same tactic, that's just poor game design.

By "fight off" do you mean shoot down, or inconvenience for 15 seconds while the ADS pilot microwarpdrive afterburns to the flight ceiling to fully charge his shields?