Sony decided to give the PS3 native KBM support to get more PS3 sales but that was a bad decision because it had little to no effect. CCP added KBM support to appease EVE players and attract PC FPS gamers. The problem is this is a console game and everyone who has a PS3 has a DS3 not everyone has a gaming KBM, so now CCP has to balance KBM vs DS3 vs PS Move making their jobs as programmers 3 times harder then it would have been had they only had to perfect the DS3 control scheme seeing as this is a console game after all.

Honestly, who cares?

How do you balance two things when one in its normalcy is completely superior to the other?
Sorry, but KB/M on this game was one of CCP's many mistakes. Its was just a stupid attempt to try and look unique and possibly attract more people form the PC Gaming world, since EvE is part of that world.

They can't balance or code anything right in this game. Expecting them to figure out how to have controllers compete with KB/M is impossible almost in itself, and is 100% impossible for CCP to accomplish.

Use a controller like everyone else, put up with it, get used to it. You don't hear controller users on PC games(yes, they exist) complaining do you? They expect to not be as viable and STFU about it.

Current aim assist is more powerful than even near-raw chromosome input.


The reason people say to get rid of kb/m isn't because it's better. It's because they have no idea, and they think its better. One side of that discussion is motivated entirely by fear and not logic.

Don't wait for CCP to fix mkb, do it yourself.

Get GIMX.

(plus you can turn on aim assist and get OP levels of hit detection and smoother aiming then we had in chromosome, regarded by many as the golden age of mkb on Dust)

...The problem is this is a console game and everyone who has a PS3 has a DS3 not everyone has a gaming KBM, so now CCP has to balance KBM vs DS3 vs PS Move making their jobs as programmers 3 times harder then it would have been had they only had to perfect the DS3 control scheme seeing as this is a console game after all.

GIMX?



edit: Looked it up... that sounds complicated as hell. Cheap, but complicated as hell. I suppose it might make for an interesting experiment.

Here's a case of someone switching over from M/KB to DS3 and their results:
http://www.reddit.com/r/dust514/comments/1zsrpd/ive_been_using_kbm_since_12_my_lifetime_kdr_is/

Isn't there a seventeen page thread on this topic rolling around?

I think that implicitly answers your question.

I changed to a DS3 back at the launch of uprising thats when keyboard and mouse truly bit the Dust... Then with the launch of 1.4 and CCP'S self proclaimed "control revamp" where all they did was turn up the Aim Assist for DS3 and completely demolish kb/m, it left kb/m users even more handicapped, especially vs TTK and aim assist, DS3 users have a huge advantage....

I really dont understand why a yes or no answer is so hard for CCP to give us... ****, look at how much they like to troll on 1.8 info im sure they would love to come up with some kind of vague answer for us.

Or maybe they are adding in raw input but want to keep it quiet from the DS3 users.... ? (I can dream, can't I ?)

"And what I would like the KB/M users to admit, but no one ever talks about it. The KB/M players have an enourmeous advantage when it comes to strafeing. I see and suffer with it almost every game. There is a huge number of players that do the very cheezy thing of strafing left/right while more or less standing on the same spot"

That's a BS myth. Go plug in a keyboard and try it, you have to carefully time your left and right keypresses because you still have momentum, It's exactly the same as the DS3...I can move the stick too fast left and right for me to actually move at all. Not one bit of difference.

This is a three sided story;

Yes the mouse is obviously gimped, it used to be much better than the DS3 back in the days, it was a time were it was simply put; way more accurate than a controller. This is obviously a very bad thing. A console FPS game simply can't (again) suffer from having a "none-native" controller scheme outshining the default one. Then it might aswell be a pc game. This being said, it obviously can't be much worse - borderlining useless compared to the DS3. There should be a place inbetween raw input and total suck which puts it at a more or less equal performance level with the DS3.

The button layout on the keybord should be customizeable. Just look at how most KB/M players uses nades compared to DS3 players, you KB/M guys have a definate dissadvantage there.

And what I would like the KB/M users to admit, but no one ever talks about it. The KB/M players have an enourmeous advantage when it comes to strafeing. I see and suffer with it almost every game. There is a huge number of players that do the very cheezy thing of strafing left/right while more or less standing on the same spot. The KB grants instant 100% move speed, which the controller doesn't. The result is that I can fire up to two full clips and barely chip the shield, if the framerate and hitdetection Gods aren't on my side. In the resent fatty event I've been up against some fattys who strafe at an incredible fast speed while spamming that HMG, its so fast that CQC tracking is almost imposible, and in these cases I need almost all my shots to hit and it needs to happen fast. This is a serious issue IMO thats been plagueing the game since launch. Flipping your fingers on the 2 directional buttons while spamming that full auto weapon is just so very cheap and requiering no skill compared to the "directional compamansated variable sircle straifing" which the good DS3 users use.

TDLR:
Buff mouse sensitivity.
Keyboard button setup should be customizeable.
Add an acceleration penalty to general keyboard movement, especially to strafe speed.

- And we should be good to go.

I've been tempted, but I don't really want to buy a peripheral for a peripheral which only works on the PS3 heh

Luckily my friend doesn't use his anymore so he said I could have it.

I have seen them on eBay for pretty cheap. Again, it takes a while to get the settings configured right to feel normal. Even after some tinkering it still doesn't feel perfect but enough for me to get the muscle memory down to play effectively.

The difference is pretty incredible as far as aiming and target tracking go.