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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:01:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote: Being a heavy weapon DOES mean that it does more damage that light And no, because i know you have a decent amout of sp into tanks. Nova knives on the other hand, I already kicked you a$$ with.
Duran Lex already addressed the first point, so I'll cast that aside.
Basically, you just admitted that Plasma Cannons are irrelevant, as they are only good against players who are scrubs and/or have little SP invested into vehicles. (Not that you need a vast amount of SP of course)
Maybe you don't realize this, but if a weapon is only good against scrubs, it's not balanced.
The Little Mermaid Of The War Room.
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:03:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote: I believe I can kill any tanker you put me against and will accept any challenges on friday in my channel "the huds"
Well, you already chickened out of your PLC assertion, so I'm gonna challenge you to solo me with a Swarm.
Loser pays 50m ISK, admits that they were wrong about AV, and has to leave the forums until 1.8
Deal?
The Little Mermaid Of The War Room.
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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sebastian the huds
Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:18:00 -
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Atiim wrote:sebastian the huds wrote: I believe I can kill any tanker you put me against and will accept any challenges on friday in my channel "the huds"
Well, you already chickened out of your PLC assertion, so I'm gonna challenge you to solo me with a Swarm. Loser pays 50m ISK, admits that they were wrong about AV, and has to leave the forums until 1.8 Deal? No, when I said challenges I didn't mean that you chose what I was using. only who I had to fight
As long as that point is clear, yes I accept you challenge.
If you only see from your point of view, you are doing it wrong.
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Echo 1991
WarRavens League of Infamy
74
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:34:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:Atiim wrote:sebastian the huds wrote: I believe I can kill any tanker you put me against and will accept any challenges on friday in my channel "the huds"
Well, you already chickened out of your PLC assertion, so I'm gonna challenge you to solo me with a Swarm. Loser pays 50m ISK, admits that they were wrong about AV, and has to leave the forums until 1.8 Deal? No, when I said challenges I didn't mean that you chose what I was using. only who I had to fight As long as that point is clear, yes I accept you challenge. Dont do it seb. You wont win.
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sebastian the huds
Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:36:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:sebastian the huds wrote:Atiim wrote:sebastian the huds wrote: I believe I can kill any tanker you put me against and will accept any challenges on friday in my channel "the huds"
Well, you already chickened out of your PLC assertion, so I'm gonna challenge you to solo me with a Swarm. Loser pays 50m ISK, admits that they were wrong about AV, and has to leave the forums until 1.8 Deal? No, when I said challenges I didn't mean that you chose what I was using. only who I had to fight As long as that point is clear, yes I accept you challenge. Dont do it seb. You wont win. If I am allowed to use what I want, I will win.
I know you can vouch for me when I say I have 1v1 a soma with a basic plasma cannon you were there when I did it
If you only see from your point of view, you are doing it wrong.
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Echo 1991
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:39:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:sebastian the huds wrote:Atiim wrote:sebastian the huds wrote: I believe I can kill any tanker you put me against and will accept any challenges on friday in my channel "the huds"
Well, you already chickened out of your PLC assertion, so I'm gonna challenge you to solo me with a Swarm. Loser pays 50m ISK, admits that they were wrong about AV, and has to leave the forums until 1.8 Deal? No, when I said challenges I didn't mean that you chose what I was using. only who I had to fight As long as that point is clear, yes I accept you challenge. Dont do it seb. You wont win. If I am allowed to use what I want, I will win. I know you can vouch for me when I say I have 1v1 a soma with a basic plasma cannon you were there when I did it And if he is using a well fit maddy it wont happen. You'll lose monies.
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:39:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:Atiim wrote:sebastian the huds wrote: I believe I can kill any tanker you put me against and will accept any challenges on friday in my channel "the huds"
Well, you already chickened out of your PLC assertion, so I'm gonna challenge you to solo me with a Swarm. Loser pays 50m ISK, admits that they were wrong about AV, and has to leave the forums until 1.8 Deal? No, when I said challenges I didn't mean that you chose what I was using. only who I had to fight As long as that point is clear, yes I accept you challenge. lol so you would just get yourself a tank with 3 damage mods and a railgun and win the fight. Yeah good luck twatt.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
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sebastian the huds
Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:42:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:sebastian the huds wrote:Atiim wrote:sebastian the huds wrote: I believe I can kill any tanker you put me against and will accept any challenges on friday in my channel "the huds"
Well, you already chickened out of your PLC assertion, so I'm gonna challenge you to solo me with a Swarm. Loser pays 50m ISK, admits that they were wrong about AV, and has to leave the forums until 1.8 Deal? No, when I said challenges I didn't mean that you chose what I was using. only who I had to fight As long as that point is clear, yes I accept you challenge. lol so you would just get yourself a tank with 3 damage mods and a railgun and win the fight. Yeah good luck twatt. I promise I won't use tanks
If you only see from your point of view, you are doing it wrong.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:59:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote: No, when I said challenges I didn't mean that you chose what I was using. only who I had to fight
As long as that point is clear, yes I accept you challenge.
Then what would this battle accomplish?
Forge Guns have already been declared as balanced, and it is you who says that your managing to do just fine with a Basic Plasma Cannon or a Proto Swarm Launcher right?
Why do you refuse to put your money where your mouth is?
The Little Mermaid Of The War Room.
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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sebastian the huds
Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:07:00 -
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Atiim wrote:sebastian the huds wrote: No, when I said challenges I didn't mean that you chose what I was using. only who I had to fight
As long as that point is clear, yes I accept you challenge.
Then what would this battle accomplish? Forge Guns have already been declared as balanced, and it is you who says that your managing to do just fine with a Basic Plasma Cannon or a Proto Swarm Launcher right? Why do you refuse to put your money where your mouth is?
Here is how it is probably going to go
If you bring shield tanks, I will bring fluxes and plasma cannon if you bring armor tanks, I will brinv AV grenades and a swarm if you bring a double or triple hardened anything, I will remote you
If you only see from your point of view, you are doing it wrong.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:18:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:Atiim wrote:sebastian the huds wrote: No, when I said challenges I didn't mean that you chose what I was using. only who I had to fight
As long as that point is clear, yes I accept you challenge.
Then what would this battle accomplish? Forge Guns have already been declared as balanced, and it is you who says that your managing to do just fine with a Basic Plasma Cannon or a Proto Swarm Launcher right? Why do you refuse to put your money where your mouth is? Here is how it is probably going to go If you bring shield tanks, I will bring fluxes and plasma cannon if you bring armor tanks, I will bring AV grenades and a swarm if you bring a double or triple hardened anything, I will remote you I'll bring a Gunnlogi.
It's not too late to take your friends advice you know. I don't like ruining people's reputation.
But I guess it'll take someone who actually knows what they're doing to show you that PLCs and SLs are not viable AV weapons hmm?
The Little Mermaid Of The War Room.
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:21:00 -
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I'm not worried about the nerf to damage modules frankly speaking they need to be removed from the game in favour of weapon utility modules.
Wouldn't that forge gun be epic with a 10% or 15% faster charge up? Don't you hate the slower reload? Wish it could be faster? You zoom not far enough for you? Think again!
Buff AV for a change, not much, but enough.
Nerf HAV, not much but enough.
"War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine."
- Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:23:00 -
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Guys we don't even know how much the armor proficiency is going to increase damage.
Edit: Also AV has not been nerfed along with the other weapons.
Hanging up the Min Logi, going full Amarr Sentinel with HMG, Ion Pistol, and Forge Gun.
My record high KD about 47/14
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sebastian the huds
Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:25:00 -
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Atiim wrote:sebastian the huds wrote:Atiim wrote:sebastian the huds wrote: No, when I said challenges I didn't mean that you chose what I was using. only who I had to fight
As long as that point is clear, yes I accept you challenge.
Then what would this battle accomplish? Forge Guns have already been declared as balanced, and it is you who says that your managing to do just fine with a Basic Plasma Cannon or a Proto Swarm Launcher right? Why do you refuse to put your money where your mouth is? Here is how it is probably going to go If you bring shield tanks, I will bring fluxes and plasma cannon if you bring armor tanks, I will bring AV grenades and a swarm if you bring a double or triple hardened anything, I will remote you I'll bring a Gunnlogi. It's not too late to take your friends advice you know. I don't like ruining people's reputation. But I guess it'll take someone who actually knows what they're doing to show you that PLCs and SLs are not viable AV weapons hmm? As long as you don't call the battle off half way through because of what I will be using
If you only see from your point of view, you are doing it wrong.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:30:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:Ok here's what you do. You and another guy get your swarm launchers wait for the tank to hold still while it starts shooting people Tell the other guy to lock on but not fire when you are both locked on, fire on your mark and keep firing
Meanwhile, the purpose of the game goes to hell...
>Bastard I : "Cce me ne... futt! XD"
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Scheneighnay McBob
Learning Coalition College
4209
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:32:00 -
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Commandos will have built in damage mods.
I am your scan error.
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Zack3000 Smith
SilenT AngelS
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:32:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:sebastian the huds wrote:Ok here's what you do. You and another guy get your swarm launchers wait for the tank to hold still while it starts shooting people Tell the other guy to lock on but not fire when you are both locked on, fire on your mark and keep firing
I have used this tactic with a friend of mine (echo_1991) with him in proto and me adv So instead of the tickle of 5 missiles there is a deadly volley of 11. Per 1.2 seconds. we have downed many glowing tanks using this tactic
I only used 1 enhaced damage mod (5%) and be uses a complex(10%)
If you try to 1v1 a tank you are a moron because he will only shoot you if he sees you as a threat if you 3v1 a tank you will probably cause him to panic and f*ck up his escape and get stuck on a railing or cargo box
Swarms still work and AV grenades are for LAVs
Replace the swarm with a plasma cannon in the tactic if you are fighting a 3x hardener shield tank So you think its balanced that you need 2-3 guys to take out 1 tank which is operated by a single person? You are delusional.
Exactly Tanks should also need to use team work not just 1 man wrecking crews. i still think tanks need to be like LAV's. 1 person drives 1 person operates turret. |
Atiim
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:33:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Commandos will have one built damage mod. Fixed
The Little Mermaid Of The War Room.
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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Zack3000 Smith
SilenT AngelS
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:36:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:sebastian the huds wrote:Atiim wrote:sebastian the huds wrote: But keep in mind that the plasma cannon is a light class weapon, and we don't have a heavy variant yet.
Meaning what exactly? Simply being a heavy weapon does not mean it should hold the most damage, especally when the Light Weapon has a single shot clip, lower ammo pool, an arc, and longer travel time. Also, are you up for giving me some free ISK? Being a heavy weapon DOES mean that it does more damage that light And no, because i know you have a decent amout of sp into tanks. Nova knives on the other hand, I already kicked you a$$ with. I have 0 sp in tanks and I am willing to bet you cant destroy my militia tank (Remember 0 SP invested) with proto swarms with 3 complex damage mods. I will be willing to give you all of the money in my wallet if you can do that. Challenge accepted, but under 1 condition. You can't go into your redline.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:37:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote: As long as you don't call the battle off half way through because of what I will be using
Sure.
Just keep in mind that you have to use Infantry AV. The moment you pull out a tank or some crap like that is the moment the bet is off.
Gonna really enjoy LMFAOing at your Plasma Cannon.
The Little Mermaid Of The War Room.
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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sebastian the huds
Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:43:00 -
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Atiim wrote:sebastian the huds wrote: As long as you don't call the battle off half way through because of what I will be using
Sure. Just keep in mind that you have to use Infantry AV. The moment you pull out a tank or some crap like that is the moment the bet is off. Gonna really enjoy LMFAOing at your Plasma Cannon. sebastian the huds (kla-90 plasma cannon) Atiim
If you only see from your point of view, you are doing it wrong.
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Zack3000 Smith
SilenT AngelS
21
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:45:00 -
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Invite me I want to see this go down
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sebastian the huds
Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:46:00 -
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Zack3000 Smith wrote:Invite me I want to see this go down
Chat channel "the huds" on friday, march 7
If you only see from your point of view, you are doing it wrong.
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Zack3000 Smith
SilenT AngelS
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:49:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I'm not worried about the nerf to damage modules frankly speaking they need to be removed from the game in favour of weapon utility modules.
Wouldn't that forge gun be epic with a 10% or 15% faster charge up? Don't you hate the slower reload? Wish it could be faster? You zoom not far enough for you? Think again!
Buff AV for a change, not much, but enough.
Nerf HAV, not much but enough.
Why did you Kill me in FW for no reason?? Minding my own business shooting at the air. then you come in and kill me with no explanation????? |
Atiim
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:49:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:Zack3000 Smith wrote:Invite me I want to see this go down
Chat channel "the huds" on friday, march 7 No.
I have a better idea. We'll set up a thunderdome.
I want the entire playerbase to see this one.
The Little Mermaid Of The War Room.
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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Nelo Angel0
RETR0 PR0 GAMERS
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:51:00 -
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How are SLs supposed to kill anything with only 175m to work with? No I don't mean ridiculously fast tanks but rather dropships. Sure they lack HP but with one good mod and shields not even PRO SLs can take them out fast enough. Dropships aren't even the fastest since their MAVs and SLs can't keep up after the first shot.
In any even SLs are pretty poo right now with a lack of range and damage. Maybe CCP has some badass missile launcher/javelin under wrap as a heavy weapon? |
Nelo Angel0
RETR0 PR0 GAMERS
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:54:00 -
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Atiim wrote:sebastian the huds wrote:Zack3000 Smith wrote:Invite me I want to see this go down
Chat channel "the huds" on friday, march 7 No. I have a better idea. We'll set up a thunderdome. I want the entire playerbase to see this one.
i'll throw you 5mill if you let me hop on your tanks gun.
literally hop ontop of it I want the best seats in the house. |
sebastian the huds
Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:56:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:Atiim wrote:sebastian the huds wrote:Zack3000 Smith wrote:Invite me I want to see this go down
Chat channel "the huds" on friday, march 7 No. I have a better idea. We'll set up a thunderdome. I want the entire playerbase to see this one. i'll throw you 5mill if you let me hop on your tanks gun. literally hop ontop of it I want the best seats in the house. The best seat doesn't explode
If you only see from your point of view, you are doing it wrong.
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Bax Zanith
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:57:00 -
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everyone:
watch this:
http://youtu.be/0lBjUlQNYR4
I'd say walk in my shoes for a day, but you probably still won't understand.
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Nelo Angel0
RETR0 PR0 GAMERS
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Posted - 2014.03.06 01:03:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:Atiim wrote:sebastian the huds wrote:Zack3000 Smith wrote:Invite me I want to see this go down
Chat channel "the huds" on friday, march 7 No. I have a better idea. We'll set up a thunderdome. I want the entire playerbase to see this one. i'll throw you 5mill if you let me hop on your tanks gun. literally hop ontop of it I want the best seats in the house. The best seat doesn't explode
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