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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.03.05 17:01:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:The dark cloud wrote:sebastian the huds wrote:Ok here's what you do.
You and another guy get your swarm launchers
wait for the tank to hold still while it starts shooting people
Tell the other guy to lock on but not fire
when you are both locked on, fire on your mark and keep firing
I have used this tactic with a friend of mine (echo_1991) with him in proto and me adv
So instead of the tickle of 5 missiles there is a deadly volley of 11. Per 1.2 seconds.
we have downed many glowing tanks using this tactic
I only used 1 enhaced damage mod (5%) and be uses a complex(10%)
If you try to 1v1 a tank you are a moron because he will only shoot you if he sees you as a threat
if you 3v1 a tank you will probably cause him to panic and f*ck up his escape and get stuck on a railing or cargo box
Swarms still work and AV grenades are for LAVs
Replace the swarm with a plasma cannon in the tactic if you are fighting a 3x hardener shield tank So you think its balanced that you need 2-3 guys to take out 1 tank which is operated by a single person? You are delusional. But it's a TANK!! I doesn't matter if there is only one person operating it. Just think, tanks can't hack objectives so if you can keep the enemy off of the panel with a sniper, you win by default
Against ANTI-TANK weaponry.
Yep. Now ask yourself this. If. I got 7 Ion Madrugars, how fast would the clone reserve deplete?
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Posted - 2014.03.05 17:08:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:Yep, there is absolutely no reason to fit AV grenades anymore.
2 AV grenades will not kill anything. You aren't supposed to be able to, that is the point. it is a grenade, not a hand held bunker buster called C4
Then why use them?
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Posted - 2014.03.05 18:01:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:Atiim wrote:sebastian the huds wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:Yep, there is absolutely no reason to fit AV grenades anymore.
2 AV grenades will not kill anything. You aren't supposed to be able to, that is the point. it is a grenade, not a hand held bunker buster called C4 Then why use them? For when your swarm "almost killed that (tank/lav)", you can chuck another good amount of damage towards the enemy For those who don't follow, IT IS A BACK UP WEAPON FOR WEAKENED VEHICLE S
Yeah...
Now how many tankers out there are so bad that they will let an AV grenade hit them?
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Posted - 2014.03.05 18:04:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:
There are a few. I usually get close firs a swarm. Throw the nades and shoot more swarms. Works quite well.
Against bad players, which means nothing.
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Posted - 2014.03.05 18:07:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:Atiim wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:
There are a few. I usually get close firs a swarm. Throw the nades and shoot more swarms. Works quite well.
Against bad players, which means nothing. I've done it on proper tankers as well but they usually learn.
Like who?
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Posted - 2014.03.05 18:18:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:Atiim wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:Atiim wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:
There are a few. I usually get close firs a swarm. Throw the nades and shoot more swarms. Works quite well.
Against bad players, which means nothing. I've done it on proper tankers as well but they usually learn. Like who? I cant remember the names of them. I usually just see the tank and go hunting. I did it to attorney once and i know he's a tanker.
So Attorney is a bad tanker?
Gotcha.
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Posted - 2014.03.05 20:48:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:
Well mister "I know everything", the caldari made the swarm and forge and av grenade to be effective against gallente vehicles, whi h have a sh*t ton of total HP that is armor based. The gallente made the plasma cannon and flux grenade to be effective against all forms of caldari vehicles which has high effective HP that is shield based
My point is that the plasma cannon doesn't need to do as much damage as the forge because it doesn't need it
I have killed many gunnlogis with my basic plasma cannon because i threw basic flux grenades first (1200 vs shield) and then shot the fuel cell on the back for an extra 40% damage.
Something your forge gunner can't do because he is on a building and to slow
I'm willing to bet the entire contents of your wallet that you can't destroy me with a Plasma Cannon. How about it?
Anyways, the Forge Gun has 4 rounds in a clip, and a higher ammo pool; while the Plasma Cannon only has a 1 round clip, and a smaller ammo pool.
Not only that, the Plasma Cannon is restricted to CQC. And while your bringing up intentions from the 4 races, let me drop this onto the field:
The Gallente weapons are always the ones that deal the most damage 
PS: the fact that it's single-shot alone means it should contain the most damage.
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Posted - 2014.03.05 20:55:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:
But keep in mind that the plasma cannon is a light class weapon, and we don't have a heavy variant yet.
Meaning what exactly?
Simply being a heavy weapon does not mean it should hold the most damage, especally when the Light Weapon has a single shot clip, lower ammo pool, an arc, and longer travel time.
Also, are you up for giving me some free ISK?
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Posted - 2014.03.05 21:33:00 -
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Croned wrote:The OP is complaining that AV will be under powered before CCP has even released the new vehicle changes. Lol?
Except we don't even know if there are any vehicle changes in 1.8
Unless I missed something of course.
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:01:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:
Being a heavy weapon DOES mean that it does more damage that light
And no, because i know you have a decent amout of sp into tanks.
Nova knives on the other hand, I already kicked you a$$ with.
Duran Lex already addressed the first point, so I'll cast that aside.
Basically, you just admitted that Plasma Cannons are irrelevant, as they are only good against players who are scrubs and/or have little SP invested into vehicles. (Not that you need a vast amount of SP of course)
Maybe you don't realize this, but if a weapon is only good against scrubs, it's not balanced.
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:03:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:
I believe I can kill any tanker you put me against and will accept any challenges on friday in my channel
"the huds"
Well, you already chickened out of your PLC assertion, so I'm gonna challenge you to solo me with a Swarm.
Loser pays 50m ISK, admits that they were wrong about AV, and has to leave the forums until 1.8
Deal?
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:59:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:
No, when I said challenges I didn't mean that you chose what I was using.
only who I had to fight
As long as that point is clear, yes I accept you challenge.
Then what would this battle accomplish?
Forge Guns have already been declared as balanced, and it is you who says that your managing to do just fine with a Basic Plasma Cannon or a Proto Swarm Launcher right?
Why do you refuse to put your money where your mouth is?
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:18:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:Atiim wrote:sebastian the huds wrote:
No, when I said challenges I didn't mean that you chose what I was using.
only who I had to fight
As long as that point is clear, yes I accept you challenge.
Then what would this battle accomplish? Forge Guns have already been declared as balanced, and it is you who says that your managing to do just fine with a Basic Plasma Cannon or a Proto Swarm Launcher right? Why do you refuse to put your money where your mouth is? Here is how it is probably going to go If you bring shield tanks, I will bring fluxes and plasma cannon if you bring armor tanks, I will bring AV grenades and a swarm if you bring a double or triple hardened anything, I will remote you
I'll bring a Gunnlogi.
It's not too late to take your friends advice you know. I don't like ruining people's reputation.
But I guess it'll take someone who actually knows what they're doing to show you that PLCs and SLs are not viable AV weapons hmm?
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:33:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Commandos will have one built damage mod.
Fixed
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:37:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:
As long as you don't call the battle off half way through because of what I will be using
Sure.
Just keep in mind that you have to use Infantry AV. The moment you pull out a tank or some crap like that is the moment the bet is off.
Gonna really enjoy LMFAOing at your Plasma Cannon.
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:49:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:Zack3000 Smith wrote:Invite me I want to see this go down
Chat channel "the huds" on friday, march 7
No.
I have a better idea. We'll set up a thunderdome.
I want the entire playerbase to see this one.
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Posted - 2014.03.06 01:08:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:i'll throw you 5mill if you let me hop on your tanks gun. literally hop ontop of it I want the best seats in the house. 
I'll do it for free.
I'm getting a 50m paycheck so it's not like I need your 5m anyways 
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Posted - 2014.03.06 01:21:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:
So long as I get a building to hide in I'm pretty sure I win
You do know you have to actually kill me right?
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Posted - 2014.03.06 01:26:00 -
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sebastian the huds wrote:I know
Just checking.
Also, I don't want to derail this thread any further, so here.
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