|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
2294
   |
Posted - 2014.03.05 15:42:00 -
[1] - Quote
Well done CCP now complex damage mods are beeing toned down from +10% to +5%. This is another nerfbat to AV like if it wasnt bad enough. At the moment its allmost impossible to kill tanks but after the changes it will truly be impossible to do it. Most AV players run 2-3 complex damage mods with a proto weapon to actually be aible to put a dent into any kind of vehicle. We need a drastical raw damage buff for AV if this is actually going to get unchecked and im talking about a ~30% raw damage increase.
Another thing ive noticed is that the forgegun is now officially stated as a "anti armor" AV weapon which means with the new proficency i will do LESS damage against shield tanks. So where is the proposed "anti shield" AV weapon?
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
|
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
2294
|
Posted - 2014.03.05 16:16:00 -
[2] - Quote
sebastian the huds wrote:Ok here's what you do.
You and another guy get your swarm launchers
wait for the tank to hold still while it starts shooting people
Tell the other guy to lock on but not fire
when you are both locked on, fire on your mark and keep firing
I have used this tactic with a friend of mine (echo_1991) with him in proto and me adv
So instead of the tickle of 5 missiles there is a deadly volley of 11. Per 1.2 seconds.
we have downed many glowing tanks using this tactic
I only used 1 enhaced damage mod (5%) and be uses a complex(10%)
If you try to 1v1 a tank you are a moron because he will only shoot you if he sees you as a threat
if you 3v1 a tank you will probably cause him to panic and f*ck up his escape and get stuck on a railing or cargo box
Swarms still work and AV grenades are for LAVs
Replace the swarm with a plasma cannon in the tactic if you are fighting a 3x hardener shield tank
So you think its balanced that you need 2-3 guys to take out 1 tank which is operated by a single person? You are delusional.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
|
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
2298
|
Posted - 2014.03.05 16:29:00 -
[3] - Quote
sebastian the huds wrote:Bax Zanith wrote:The dark cloud wrote:sebastian the huds wrote:Ok here's what you do.
You and another guy get your swarm launchers
wait for the tank to hold still while it starts shooting people
Tell the other guy to lock on but not fire
when you are both locked on, fire on your mark and keep firing
I have used this tactic with a friend of mine (echo_1991) with him in proto and me adv
So instead of the tickle of 5 missiles there is a deadly volley of 11. Per 1.2 seconds.
we have downed many glowing tanks using this tactic
I only used 1 enhaced damage mod (5%) and be uses a complex(10%)
If you try to 1v1 a tank you are a moron because he will only shoot you if he sees you as a threat
if you 3v1 a tank you will probably cause him to panic and f*ck up his escape and get stuck on a railing or cargo box
Swarms still work and AV grenades are for LAVs
Replace the swarm with a plasma cannon in the tactic if you are fighting a 3x hardener shield tank So you think its balanced that you need 2-3 guys to take out 1 tank which is operated by a single person? You are delusional. Not only that but need ADV and PRO swarms for militia and STD tanks? Congratulations on addapting, but its still imbalancd. Lets make a deal. You can have your way and get a buff to AV. The only catch is that the marauder tanks get added in again remember? Those dark green tanks that required about 12 million sp to drive and costed 4 million isk each? yeah, the tanks that had about 14000 total HP with cycled hardeners and reps? Even if AV is stronger than before the nerf, you couldn't kill it.
Arguing with you is pointless. I want a buff so that AV remains it current power and not beeing nerfbatted with weaker damage mods. Before you post again please ask some 1 to donate common sense for yourself.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
|
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
2298
|
Posted - 2014.03.05 16:31:00 -
[4] - Quote
CLONE117 wrote:av isnt weak.
its av attacking hardened vehicles that make it seem so.
no need to have 3+ guys aving a tanks at the same time. its just the most efficient method for the less competent.
ive been largely successfull with my av while solo. id like to see fluxes rip the shields of off hardened shield tanks though.
Not attacking when hardeners are on? Are you stupid? When would that be? With max skills armor and shield tanks can run their hardeners nonstop. There is no opportunity to put damage on them. And lol flux ever used them? Good luck getting them to hit a moving tank.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
|
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
2300
|
Posted - 2014.03.05 16:46:00 -
[5] - Quote
Bax Zanith wrote:sebastian the huds wrote:Bax Zanith wrote:The dark cloud wrote:sebastian the huds wrote:Ok here's what you do.
You and another guy get your swarm launchers
wait for the tank to hold still while it starts shooting people
Tell the other guy to lock on but not fire
when you are both locked on, fire on your mark and keep firing
I have used this tactic with a friend of mine (echo_1991) with him in proto and me adv
So instead of the tickle of 5 missiles there is a deadly volley of 11. Per 1.2 seconds.
we have downed many glowing tanks using this tactic
I only used 1 enhaced damage mod (5%) and be uses a complex(10%)
If you try to 1v1 a tank you are a moron because he will only shoot you if he sees you as a threat
if you 3v1 a tank you will probably cause him to panic and f*ck up his escape and get stuck on a railing or cargo box
Swarms still work and AV grenades are for LAVs
Replace the swarm with a plasma cannon in the tactic if you are fighting a 3x hardener shield tank So you think its balanced that you need 2-3 guys to take out 1 tank which is operated by a single person? You are delusional. Not only that but need ADV and PRO swarms for militia and STD tanks? Congratulations on addapting, but its still imbalancd. Lets make a deal. You can have your way and get a buff to AV. The only catch is that the marauder tanks get added in again remember? Those dark green tanks that required about 12 million sp to drive and costed 4 million isk each? yeah, the tanks that had about 14000 total HP with cycled hardeners and reps? Even if AV is stronger than before the nerf, you couldn't kill it. I wasnt around for the marauder tanks, and I didnt say buff AV damage eather. Even if CCP did something about AV vs tank, it wouldn't be truly balanced, not without ADV and PRO tanks. If two militia swarms can take out a militia tank, two STD swarms can take out a STD tank, so on and so fourth, id be happy.
At the moment we need proto AV to take out militia tanks. Any other vehicles above standard would be overkill.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
|
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
2305
|
Posted - 2014.03.05 17:11:00 -
[6] - Quote
sebastian the huds wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:Yep, there is absolutely no reason to fit AV grenades anymore.
2 AV grenades will not kill anything. You aren't supposed to be able to, that is the point. it is a grenade, not a hand held bunker buster called C4
what about LAV's? We need around 3 proto AV nades to take out a single militia LAV. Thats not a option anymore.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
|
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
2318
|
Posted - 2014.03.05 20:14:00 -
[7] - Quote
LUGMOS wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Well done CCP now complex damage mods are beeing toned down from +10% to +5%. This is another nerfbat to AV like if it wasnt bad enough. At the moment its allmost impossible to kill tanks but after the changes it will truly be impossible to do it. Most AV players run 2-3 complex damage mods with a proto weapon to actually be aible to put a dent into any kind of vehicle. We need a drastical raw damage buff for AV if this is actually going to get unchecked and im talking about a ~30% raw damage increase.
Another thing ive noticed is that the forgegun is now officially stated as a "anti armor" AV weapon which means with the new proficency i will do LESS damage against shield tanks. So where is the proposed "anti shield" AV weapon? STAHP USING SWARMS AGAINST SHIELDS! I have no problem killing tanks with a DAU/2 assault forge with basic damage mods.
I got swarms and forgeguns so stop it. And you dont get it that proficency skills will only increase damage against either armor OR shields. And the forgegun is stated as anti armor weapon. So proficency bonus for that will count against armor damage but not shields.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
|
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
2319
|
Posted - 2014.03.05 20:20:00 -
[8] - Quote
sebastian the huds wrote:The dark cloud wrote:LUGMOS wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Well done CCP now complex damage mods are beeing toned down from +10% to +5%. This is another nerfbat to AV like if it wasnt bad enough. At the moment its allmost impossible to kill tanks but after the changes it will truly be impossible to do it. Most AV players run 2-3 complex damage mods with a proto weapon to actually be aible to put a dent into any kind of vehicle. We need a drastical raw damage buff for AV if this is actually going to get unchecked and im talking about a ~30% raw damage increase.
Another thing ive noticed is that the forgegun is now officially stated as a "anti armor" AV weapon which means with the new proficency i will do LESS damage against shield tanks. So where is the proposed "anti shield" AV weapon? STAHP USING SWARMS AGAINST SHIELDS! I have no problem killing tanks with a DAU/2 assault forge with basic damage mods. I got swarms and forgeguns so stop it. And you dont get it that proficency skills will only increase damage against either armor OR shields. And the forgegun is stated as anti armor weapon. So proficency bonus for that will count against armor damage but not shields. There is such a thing as an anti shield av weapon it's called the PLASMA CANNON It gets a bonus against shield
A AV weapon which needs to be reloaded after each shot is worthless if it doesnt provide high damage. And as it is now a Proto plasma cannon does less damage then a lvl 1 forgegun. Which means its useless.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
|
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
2322
|
Posted - 2014.03.05 22:48:00 -
[9] - Quote
Duran Lex wrote:It's all speculation anyways.
We have no idea if anything has been changed with vehicles or AV.
Until then there's no need to be afraid of the sky falling.
Yes but alot of us saw what CCP is capable off. And most of the times we get thrown at with bollocks. Just look back at the flaylock before it got nerfbatted. It was OP as hell due to no testing, ignoring the majority of the community and then only reverse it when 200 topics about it have beeing posted. I could live with it if they would make seperate damage mods for swarm launchers/plasma cannon and forgegun which still have their old stats. Ya know like the vehicle damage mods which are specific for railguns,blasters or missiles.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
|
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
2329
|
Posted - 2014.03.05 23:39:00 -
[10] - Quote
sebastian the huds wrote:Atiim wrote:sebastian the huds wrote:
I believe I can kill any tanker you put me against and will accept any challenges on friday in my channel
"the huds"
Well, you already chickened out of your PLC assertion, so I'm gonna challenge you to solo me with a Swarm. Loser pays 50m ISK, admits that they were wrong about AV, and has to leave the forums until 1.8 Deal? No, when I said challenges I didn't mean that you chose what I was using. only who I had to fight As long as that point is clear, yes I accept you challenge.
lol so you would just get yourself a tank with 3 damage mods and a railgun and win the fight. Yeah good luck twatt.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
|
|
|
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
2333
|
Posted - 2014.03.06 10:25:00 -
[11] - Quote
bump.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
|
|
|
| |
|