You may not be benefiting from it, but your corporation now has a serious
stock-pile obtained through exploiting PC, I have not complained over protostomping
Do what you like with your ISK, my complaints are due to ISK being earned via exploits

Don't try turn this into a stomping issue, that is not the problem
Stomping will always happen, it is the nature of Dust players
100+ player corps need to stop exploiting to have an advantage

I'm not arguing it out with you.....
Your corp and others have gotten ahead via exploits
Yes atm there is not much that ISK can do for you
But this 'may or may not' stay the case once new content is released

You are trying to make the fact that your corp has farmed an advantage
irrelevant yet if that was the case, they wouldn't have done it

When Planetside 2 comes out dust will die for good fact destiny will kill it as well

By then u made your profit so who cares? All im sayin.

U make an investment, sit on it recoup your investment plus interest til its fixed then go back to your QQ over everything wrong with the world...


smart thing would be to sell off the clones to maximize your profit come that time, or better yet try to pawn it off to someone so u make even more off the deal.

clocks ticking, and the longer u wait the less u profit. Ive profited more than enough and tbh make little profit each time i sell, but its our business model now and keeps things more interesting than just me holding 33% of the map by my lonesome.

What advantage?

The corps that have districts and farm are simply better -- both in meta and in-game.

Now, you can point to the mythcial ISK faucet, or some nebulous "advantage".

But what are you talking about, really?

A buffer of isk that really means nothing, and may or may not mean something in the future?

I'm sorry, but that's no advantage at all. It's simply posturing about a problem that is non-existent and may never.

ps2 is comin out april

dont even think about destiny thats at sept 2014 yea we got time

why does it matter how much money anyone has?

I can't think of a single mmo ever created that doesn't maintain a population with haves and have nots.

no game where the older players have serious overwhelming advantages over new players, they may not be pitted against each other on regular basis, but if you ever attempt to pvp in those games you'll find out about that advantage first hand pretty quickly.

my suggestion....just play the game and stop concerning yourself with other players. I been running pubs for two weeks now in a 15k miltia heavy suit, and been turning over tons of isk and getting pretty decent kill scores. isk means **** you don't need alot of it currently.

Isn't Planetside 2 one giant fail just like dust? Neither game, has much of a population and PS2 is just as grindy as dust. Personally I think dust in its current state, blows. However, there are enough die hards, that I just do not see it dying off anytime soon.

450HP Starter Fit =/= 900+HP Proto Fit.

With the ridiculous amount of Money, Pubstompers can just spam Boundless's and Kaalkalatia's and Duovalle's with Their 900+ Assault suit constantly with no consequents besides lolISK loss.

450HP Starter Fit =/= 900+HP Proto Fit.

With the ridiculous amount of Money, Pubstompers can just spam Boundless's and Kaalkalatia's and Duovalle's with Their 900+ Assault suit constantly with no consequents besides lolISK loss.

Yes, it is mythical because clone don't get generated from ether and then sold back to ether at all.

here's a fun fact.

had PC never been released, and we all just had wallets based on our pub grinding, Most of us 'pubstompers' would still be rollin proto 24/7

closed beta players have the advantage over everyone

open beta players have the advantage over everyone except above

now u just look at how long someone has been playing...

the longer you've been the playing, the greater advantage you have.

one of the first things successful mercs learn in this game is how to manage their finances.

I ran a 30k fit for MONTHS

many, many MONTHS, would only break out proto when we would come up against a squad of Imps.

no one else was worth the expense, and we never felt bad about it. great, GREAT fights, even when it was 4 man squads it was ALWAYS us vs them and both sides knew it.

I still remember last day of closed beta was the FIRST time I killed regnum myself. I was always the AV guy giving Zitro unwarranted beatings.

the trick was to get him before Reg and Protoman got to you. not an easy task but good times

anyway, I had almost 800 million BEFORE PC was ever an option for anyone, just from grinding pubs, with a 5+ kdr and a W/L of 5+, being a heavy 100% of the time

so many better scenarios than that, but people who cant manage their isk are ALWAYS gonna be salty that others can, and that's what this all boils down to

So you're saying that we should **** the system for the immediate profits which we can use until they go away? I'm getting the impression that you're of the opinion that it is a good thing to profit now and then when it all goes away, it was worth it because you had the riches while you did.

Is that correct?

fun fact, when you shoot someone in the back of the head 900 ehp means **** all.

fun fact number 2, 900 ehp means **** to a remote explosive.

fun fact i can get over 900 ehp in my standard heavy suit.

fun fact, 6 guys in one squad can drop 900ehp in less then a second.

fun fact it's possible to kill players even when you have worse guns and less hp.

numbers aren't the only factors on the battle field.

While I have no doubt many corps DON'T give ISK out like candy, I am certain MANY do.

I've been keeping track of Dust since Closed Beta,
After sticking through the lack of balance, and addition of bugs
You'd think it would get better, but with the state of PC this is a sinking ship...
A minority of gamers like myself, enjoy playing to earn what they have
And despite being offered chances to make free ISK with PC corps
I declined as I know that would ruin the enjoyment of gameplay for me

This is not the case for a lot of players, who have made themselves
Unbelievably rich using exploits to get ahead

I have no issue with guys being richer than most, but to what extent?
It's no secret how much is some of these players have... so what about their corps??
Billions would be an accurate number at this stage.....
Enough that they will never be matched by the honest corps
Never mind the newer players who will never have a chance to compete

As a playerbase are you happy CCP have let this continue??
From the perspective of a guy who has tried to encourage new players
This has killed all chances of this game reaching it's potential
10% of the players would be close to holding 90% of in-game wealth

As time goes by these players will make the game un-playable
I've no issue having my ass kicked by richer/skilled gamers
But when these guys exploited/cheated to get the advantage
Takes away all fun from playing this game....

And don't be fooled by CCP if they fix the ability to exploit PC
As it is already too late because the damage has been done

As Kevin points out 'Unfortunately CCP's stance to boosters and exploiters is well lets say harmless'.