DUST Search - How long will this game last?

CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:

TheD1CK wrote:

Well i'll have to stay broke, I'll work my way through Dust as I have since beginning
I like taking the learn as you go approach rather than tutorials, earning as I go
Just testing things out and adapting to other roles has kept me interested so far

Your talk of an ISK factory sounds tempting Pirate

Just reaching out and grabbing that 100$ is a choice
Everyone should not be forced to that level, as others got away with it

There is 2 sides to this, Players in it for the game and players in it for themselves
I want this game to reach it's full potential others are focused on breaking it at any
opportunity to get a step ahead, you are delaying the games progress .

I've made my point, hopefully CCP take note that not all players benefit from this
And every new player that joins will be turned away by the situation you have let stand

yes I can agree, but just know all this stuff has been placed on their doorstep, many, MANY times.

its not like this is some big secret that just recently got out...

No, since day 1 PC has been broken, countless threads here and conversations directly with devs on the topic.

we had the foxfour 'revamp' or whatever a few months ago, and latency/framerate improvements have been pretty regular.

the gameplay continues to improve (overall) but the only financial adjustment they made was a while ago when they changed clone pack, passive and per clone price marginally.

improvement? yes

fix? lulz

either way, either get in on the gravy train while its a goin, or sit on the sidelines and grab those pompoms out of the goodwill box and get the spectators excited for what they COULD have..

interested parties mail me or hit me up on Skype and we can talk business.

Skype: chicagocubsnbears

Kill PC and reclaim all wealth it has generated before it damages the game even further

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da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 453	Posted - 2014.03.03 15:57:00 - [31] - Quote shadow drake35 wrote: da GAND wrote: In the games current state it won't last past Destiny's launch, but if CCP does actually have something "evolutionary" for Dust at fanfest then it'll be interesting to see how things go. Only way I see people here staying with Dust is if we get whatever this "evolutionary" thing is during the summer or close to Destiny's release. And it'll be interesting to see how CCP plans to actually get new players if most people that are interested in the idea of an MMO-FPS are busy with Destiny. When Planetside 2 comes out dust will die for good fact destiny will kill it as well Well for those who plan to stick with the ps3 there will be a ps3 version of Destiny also. After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 481	Posted - 2014.03.03 15:58:00 - [32] - Quote shadow drake35 wrote: da GAND wrote: In the games current state it won't last past Destiny's launch, but if CCP does actually have something "evolutionary" for Dust at fanfest then it'll be interesting to see how things go. Only way I see people here staying with Dust is if we get whatever this "evolutionary" thing is during the summer or close to Destiny's release. And it'll be interesting to see how CCP plans to actually get new players if most people that are interested in the idea of an MMO-FPS are busy with Destiny. When Planetside 2 comes out dust will die for good fact destiny will kill it as well GTAV was supposed to kill DUST 514 from what I remember some people here saying. Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 6/10 Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome Roll with the punches instead of QQing
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 893	Posted - 2014.03.03 16:14:00 - [33] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: You're challenging someone for the 'most threads made that **** people off' trophy aren't you? Thats all in where your standing Are you included in the section that exploit/boost to get ahead?? EA can reset/ban exploiters/boosters What can CCP do about them???
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 893	Posted - 2014.03.03 16:18:00 - [34] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: TheD1CK wrote: And despite being offered chances to make free ISK with PC corps This is an incorrect statement to the general public. You will never hold land in any PC(Gamemode)...ever. 6 months down the line when PC is fun and functional, you can be the one to explain to your members why they can't play Dust 514's EndGame. Added to The List I disregard anything you post on here You openly admit being a cheat, and how you benefit from it And in the end you think it makes you better than other players Any performance I've seen from you has been mediocre.... Having to use Proto to gain advantage in pubs And without the backing of a stacked side, your as dead as anyone else Thank god for that hide post feature, I suggest you do likewise And ill note if CCP tolerates players like you this game will fail EA can reset/ban exploiters/boosters What can CCP do about them???
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 2381	Posted - 2014.03.03 16:21:00 - [35] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: TheD1CK wrote: And despite being offered chances to make free ISK with PC corps This is an incorrect statement to the general public. You will never hold land in any PC(Gamemode)...ever. 6 months down the line when PC is fun and functional, you can be the one to explain to your members why they can't play Dust 514's EndGame. Added to The List I disregard anything you post on here You openly admit being a cheat, and how you benefit from it And in the end you think it makes you better than other players Any performance I've seen from you has been mediocre.... Having to use Proto to gain advantage in pubs/FW And without the backing of a stacked side, your as dead as anyone else Thank god for that hide post feature, I suggest you do likewise And ill note if CCP tolerates players like you this game will fail Only on General Discussion Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah
Poultryge1st Da Short Buss Legacy Rising 24	Posted - 2014.03.03 16:22:00 - [36] - Quote Not everyone that has a lot of isk made it from PC.
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 2970	Posted - 2014.03.03 16:24:00 - [37] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Nobody has infinite isk, not even CCP employees. Introduce player market, officer weapon trading, and other ways for exceedingly wealthy mercs to trade with not wealthy mercs for goods and services and you can have these massive stockpiles of cash disseminate into the general community. More isk in the community will usually get burned rather fast. for example... Add boring mining pve missions where you are rewarded with minerals used the production of proto gear. Now imagine you have to spam those missions like 20-30 times per week in order to stay all proto. People like me with 500 million isk would likely buy a lot of minerals from the people who enjoy running those missions and don't plan on using proto. And that was just something off the top of my head. There are plenty of easy ways to course correct. This game isn't doomed by any stretch. just let the poor broke bastards that have piles of officer gear from grinding pubs for no reason to be able to sell them the rich get weapons that they can put to use, the poor move up a tax bracket. I don't think there is a need to introduce MORE isk into the current economy, just ways to distribute it more evenly You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 1415	Posted - 2014.03.03 16:27:00 - [38] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Nobody has infinite isk, not even CCP employees. Introduce player market, officer weapon trading, and other ways for exceedingly wealthy mercs to trade with not wealthy mercs for goods and services and you can have these massive stockpiles of cash disseminate into the general community. More isk in the community will usually get burned rather fast. for example... Add boring mining pve missions where you are rewarded with minerals used the production of proto gear. Now imagine you have to spam those missions like 20-30 times per week in order to stay all proto. People like me with 500 million isk would likely buy a lot of minerals from the people who enjoy running those missions and don't plan on using proto. And that was just something off the top of my head. There are plenty of easy ways to course correct. This game isn't doomed by any stretch. just let the poor broke bastards that have piles of officer gear from grinding pubs for no reason to be able to sell them the rich get weapons that they can put to use, the poor move up a tax bracket. I don't think there is a need to introduce MORE isk into the current economy, just ways to distribute it more evenly Isnt that like mining? Who wants some?
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 897	Posted - 2014.03.03 16:29:00 - [39] - Quote Don't mistake me here, I am committed to Dust514 I have every hope that it progresses to the levels being planned by CCP But using exploits to gain an advantage needs to stopped and punished It's that simple, or else these same people will hold that over every new player Guys gaining an advantage by working at it is fine.... you earn it, then use/abuse But exploiting for it and overall delaying game production is unfair to the playerbase This needs to be stopped the longer it is allowed, the longer this game suffers EA can reset/ban exploiters/boosters What can CCP do about them???
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 2971	Posted - 2014.03.03 16:33:00 - [40] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: TheD1CK wrote: And despite being offered chances to make free ISK with PC corps This is an incorrect statement to the general public. You will never hold land in any PC(Gamemode)...ever. 6 months down the line when PC is fun and functional, you can be the one to explain to your members why they can't play Dust 514's EndGame. Added to The List I disregard anything you post on here You openly admit being a cheat, and how you benefit from it And in the end you think it makes you better than other players Any performance I've seen from you has been mediocre.... Having to use Proto to gain advantage in pubs/FW And without the backing of a stacked side, your as dead as anyone else Thank god for that hide post feature, I suggest you do likewise And ill note if CCP tolerates players like you this game will fail having to use proto? ROFL bro apply the brakes on the Soul Train for a second. First, we are Sooooo sorry that we have a pile of isk, and run nothing BUT proto 24/7. I personally have 20+ fits, NONE of which are starting with a suit that isn't proto. Im sooo sorry that doesn't apply to you or half this community. I really am. proto and advantage? not really.. this isn't chromosome where a proto suit gave you innate defense boost. Once again, sorry to inform you, but Regnyum, like him or not, is a beast on this game. NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE that has an IQ over 76 and not forced to ride the shortbus WITH a seatbelt will refute the statement that he is top 10 best players in this game. sure we can argue where in that top 10, but no one is refuting his talent and skill on Dust. vs tankspam, in a spambush, being an infantry specialist and NOT an AV specialist, of course he will have some rough times, especially when bums like yourself roll with inifinite militia tanks cause lets face it, you couldn't get a chick if you had a $100 bill hanging out of your zipper. me personally, I love tankscrubs, but I also have well over 40million SP, an unlimited bankroll, don't give a flying F#%K about KDR, but I will definitely pop your crap tank solo just for funsies. so by all means.. disregard anything and everything you want. we are elitist no lifers that really have nothing better to do than ridicule you, roast you over the forum PvP flames, and when you get the balls to try something in game, you will quickly be reminded (if not learn for the first time) that these forums don't translate into what happens on the battlefield. and on the battlefield, u got nothing. that said, you want to 'experience PC' and have some isk, holler cause land is for sale. and as much as regnum would hate it, we don't attack clients, unless someone pays us that is... so therefore it wouldn't be wise to make forum enemies, cause surprisingly a couple of them know how to make that be an effect in game... You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity - Nietzche

RailTank QQ SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 26	Posted - 2014.03.03 16:40:00 - [41] - Quote I've recently begun setting my watch to TheD1cks cry threads, haven't missed a day yet! Soldner's in exile after calling for a riot and getting BANANA'ed.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 897	Posted - 2014.03.03 17:00:00 - [42] - Quote I'm not looking to make enemies, I don't care what people think If others won't ask CCP to sort this out, ill QQ if need be The issues with PC need addressing asap, before it goes any further You can all criticize me if you like but I am addressing this issue on behalf of the players That intend to enjoy and appreciate the progression of Dust514, not abuse it Cubs, I know you can run proto all day, and you've been here long enough to be insanely ISK rich and overall your a good player... certainly one who can adapt to most threats in battle, not just wrecking faces with a rifle , My 10mil SP vehicle Alt has not been used since 1.7 it's a cheap crutch But earning your proto gear, and exploiting to get it are 2 different things EA can reset/ban exploiters/boosters What can CCP do about them???
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 2975	Posted - 2014.03.03 17:47:00 - [43] - Quote CCP is well aware of the economy imbalance and is working to figure out how to fix it. we ALL know that and we ALL hope for it to be fixed.. and SOON That said, if you walked by an ATM machine that had $100 bill hanging out of it and no one was around, would you take it and consider yourself lucky? would you just ignore it? passing up on free money that someone else will undoubtedly take when they see it? or Turn it in saying someone is missing $100 but I have no idea who? The issue has been reported... MONTHS ago to be exact. it took a VERY long time for them to even give a crap, or perhaps the solution just isn't very simple. who knows, but calling out people who get financing when you don't and saying they are 'exploiting' well you and I have very different ideas of 'exploits' not to mention everyone has the opportunity to make the isk before its broken. take the high and mighty route and stay broke, or make an investment to get a huge return on it before the isk factory closes and gets relocated to china... choice is yours You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1322	Posted - 2014.03.03 17:59:00 - [44] - Quote 10 years? I didn't read your post. it seemed long and stupid.
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 162	Posted - 2014.03.03 18:03:00 - [45] - Quote i won't recommend this game to anyone. i tried once and ended up embarrassed, dude was like "you actually think this is fun?" things like large turrets spammed across the map that headshots you when unmanned, KBM support, snare mechanic upon being shot, subpar aiming, frame rate issues, grinding for isk is not fun, the list is huge why no normal person could like this game. u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 454	Posted - 2014.03.03 18:06:00 - [46] - Quote Zirzo Valcyn wrote: i won't recommend this game to anyone. i tried once and ended up embarrassed, dude was like "you actually think this is fun?" things like large turrets spammed across the map that headshots you when unmanned, KBM support, snare mechanic upon being shot, subpar aiming, frame rate issues, grinding for isk is not fun, the list is huge why no normal person could like this game. The worst part is the SP and ISK grinding, that's all there is around to do besides PC/laggy expensive skirmish. After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 732	Posted - 2014.03.03 18:14:00 - [47] - Quote CCP seems to be risking everything on the next build/evolution. They seem to be laser focused on that and care nothing else about the game. It's a huge risk. You lose so many players in the interim that it is hard to make up the loss. Then you allow exploiters and cheaters free reign not even giving them a slap on the wrist. CCP knows about the PC exploits and ISK faucet, they just don't care. All I know is fanfest better be Fing awesome.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 454	Posted - 2014.03.03 18:19:00 - [48] - Quote Galvan Nized wrote: CCP seems to be risking everything on the next build/evolution. They seem to be laser focused on that and care nothing else about the game. It's a huge risk. You lose so many players in the interim that it is hard to make up the loss. Then you allow exploiters and cheaters free reign not even giving them a slap on the wrist. CCP knows about the PC exploits and ISK faucet, they just don't care. All I know is fanfest better be Fing awesome. It better cuz the survival of the game depends on it / wallets of all those on the Shanghai team depend on it. After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1799	Posted - 2014.03.03 18:25:00 - [49] - Quote da GAND wrote: In the games current state it won't last past Destiny's launch, but if CCP does actually have something "evolutionary" for Dust at fanfest then it'll be interesting to see how things go. Only way I see people here staying with Dust is if we get whatever this "evolutionary" thing is during the summer or close to Destiny's release. And it'll be interesting to see how CCP plans to actually get new players if most people that are interested in the idea of an MMO-FPS are busy with Destiny. I really hope "evolutionary" doesn't mean "look guys we "fixed" PC and made it so that you can farm even more, please break the economy even further with our newly released P2P Market!!" Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 454	Posted - 2014.03.03 18:39:00 - [50] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: da GAND wrote: In the games current state it won't last past Destiny's launch, but if CCP does actually have something "evolutionary" for Dust at fanfest then it'll be interesting to see how things go. Only way I see people here staying with Dust is if we get whatever this "evolutionary" thing is during the summer or close to Destiny's release. And it'll be interesting to see how CCP plans to actually get new players if most people that are interested in the idea of an MMO-FPS are busy with Destiny. I really hope "evolutionary" doesn't mean "look guys we "fixed" PC and made it so that you can farm even more, please break the economy even further with our newly released P2P Market!!" I really don't care if they fix PC, unless they make a different type of skirmish for it or make it feel like you own the district After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.

TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 906	Posted - 2014.03.03 18:42:00 - [51] - Quote Well i'll have to stay broke, I'll work my way through Dust as I have since beginning I like taking the learn as you go approach rather than tutorials, earning as I go Just testing things out and adapting to other roles has kept me interested so far Your talk of an ISK factory sounds tempting Just reaching out and grabbing that 100$ is a choice Everyone should not be forced to that level, as others got away with it There is 2 sides to this, Players in it for the game and players in it for themselves I want this game to reach it's full potential others are focused on breaking it at any opportunity to get a step ahead, you are delaying the games progress . I've made my point, hopefully CCP take note that not all players benefit from this And every new player that joins will be turned away by the situation you have let stand EA can reset/ban exploiters/boosters What can CCP do about them???
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 2981	Posted - 2014.03.03 19:32:00 - [52] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Well i'll have to stay broke, I'll work my way through Dust as I have since beginning I like taking the learn as you go approach rather than tutorials, earning as I go Just testing things out and adapting to other roles has kept me interested so far Your talk of an ISK factory sounds tempting Just reaching out and grabbing that 100$ is a choice Everyone should not be forced to that level, as others got away with it There is 2 sides to this, Players in it for the game and players in it for themselves I want this game to reach it's full potential others are focused on breaking it at any opportunity to get a step ahead, you are delaying the games progress . I've made my point, hopefully CCP take note that not all players benefit from this And every new player that joins will be turned away by the situation you have let stand yes I can agree, but just know all this stuff has been placed on their doorstep, many, MANY times. its not like this is some big secret that just recently got out... No, since day 1 PC has been broken, countless threads here and conversations directly with devs on the topic. we had the foxfour 'revamp' or whatever a few months ago, and latency/framerate improvements have been pretty regular. the gameplay continues to improve (overall) but the only financial adjustment they made was a while ago when they changed clone pack, passive and per clone price marginally. improvement? yes fix? lulz either way, either get in on the gravy train while its a goin, or sit on the sidelines and grab those pompoms out of the goodwill box and get the spectators excited for what they COULD have.. interested parties mail me or hit me up on Skype and we can talk business. Skype: chicagocubsnbears You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2024	Posted - 2014.03.03 19:38:00 - [53] - Quote march 31st 11:59 pm
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1121	Posted - 2014.03.03 19:41:00 - [54] - Quote Depends how long they keep that stick up their ass about porting to ps4. They may not want to, but as more players get a ps3 there will be less players who want to switch back to their ps3 just to play a free-to-play game. ESPECIALLY once Planetside 2 hit the ps4 as it's a free-to-play game as well. Dust gives you the ability to own an array of districts and planets that you fight for and keep until someone is able to wrest it away from you. But Planetside 2 gives you persistent large-scale warfare over vast swaths of land where air vehicles are a necessity for transportation and control of the battlefield can swap sides overnight. The kind of thing many of us imagined Dust would be by now. If Dust merged it's current Faction Warfare with Planetside 2's large-scale persistent battles, basically letting you choose the planet and district you wanted your warbarge to attack and then moving around the map from district to district once you arrive (meaning opening up the maps so that all districts are on the same map) Dust would be much better off even with the imbalances. (Of course that's leaving out some particulars that would need to be addressed to suit our lore and map systems) The 3 best things CCP can do right now are: work on making PC/FW the large-scale persistent conflicts they were supposed to be, work on porting to ps4, and work on linking the ps4 version of Dust to the ps3 version of Dust. This will help preserve Dust's longevity, and since ps4 titles are few and far between right now, perhaps bring in some new players. Of course have a team still working on bug fixes and balancing issues, but keep the majority of the force driving Dust forward so that it can begin to grow again. MAG ~ Raven
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1803	Posted - 2014.03.03 20:59:00 - [55] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: TheD1CK wrote: Well i'll have to stay broke, I'll work my way through Dust as I have since beginning I like taking the learn as you go approach rather than tutorials, earning as I go Just testing things out and adapting to other roles has kept me interested so far Your talk of an ISK factory sounds tempting Just reaching out and grabbing that 100$ is a choice Everyone should not be forced to that level, as others got away with it There is 2 sides to this, Players in it for the game and players in it for themselves I want this game to reach it's full potential others are focused on breaking it at any opportunity to get a step ahead, you are delaying the games progress . I've made my point, hopefully CCP take note that not all players benefit from this And every new player that joins will be turned away by the situation you have let stand yes I can agree, but just know all this stuff has been placed on their doorstep, many, MANY times. its not like this is some big secret that just recently got out... No, since day 1 PC has been broken, countless threads here and conversations directly with devs on the topic. we had the foxfour 'revamp' or whatever a few months ago, and latency/framerate improvements have been pretty regular. the gameplay continues to improve (overall) but the only financial adjustment they made was a while ago when they changed clone pack, passive and per clone price marginally. improvement? yes fix? lulz either way, either get in on the gravy train while its a goin, or sit on the sidelines and grab those pompoms out of the goodwill box and get the spectators excited for what they COULD have.. interested parties mail me or hit me up on Skype and we can talk business. Skype: chicagocubsnbears What happens if/when that gravy train gets derailed and everything that you had been cashing in on goes away? Who'd be in a better position then? The ones who got thrown from the gravy train or the ones laughing cause they knew what was going to happen? Kill PC and reclaim all wealth it has generated before it damages the game even further Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 2990	Posted - 2014.03.03 23:15:00 - [56] - Quote By then u made your profit so who cares? All im sayin. U make an investment, sit on it recoup your investment plus interest til its fixed then go back to your QQ over everything wrong with the world... smart thing would be to sell off the clones to maximize your profit come that time, or better yet try to pawn it off to someone so u make even more off the deal. clocks ticking, and the longer u wait the less u profit. Ive profited more than enough and tbh make little profit each time i sell, but its our business model now and keeps things more interesting than just me holding 33% of the map by my lonesome. You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 609	Posted - 2014.03.03 23:33:00 - [57] - Quote The problem with this game has nothing to do with farming PC. The problem is with the perception by some that that's the problem. Let's use an example. Me. I run proto virtually all the time. I've not received a dime from my corp (outside of one 2m payment the other day), despite the fact that we farm our 10 districts and have for some time. Read that again and let it sink in. I can afford to do this because of (a) the two refunds, (b) grinding for six month in starter/bpo suits, and (c) my skill (which is modest compared to many). There's nothing stopping you from doing it to, except perhaps a defeatist attitude exhibited by the OP based upon the failed premise that it's PC that's causing the perceived skill gap. Because outside of NS, there really isn't anyone who is exploiting PC and using those gains to fund a protostomping playstyle.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 609	Posted - 2014.03.03 23:37:00 - [58] - Quote calisk galern wrote: the only difference between now and a year ago is that now players have a new thing to point their finger at and blame it for why they are getting their asses kicked in pubs. Quoted for truth.
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 536	Posted - 2014.03.03 23:42:00 - [59] - Quote The way he posts does anyone else read it like a poem?
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 912	Posted - 2014.03.03 23:44:00 - [60] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: The problem with this game has nothing to do with farming PC. The problem is with the perception by some that that's the problem. Let's use an example. Me. I run proto virtually all the time. I've not received a dime from my corp (outside of one 2m payment the other day), despite the fact that we farm our 10 districts and have for some time. Read that again and let it sink in. I can afford to do this because of (a) the two refunds, (b) grinding for six month in starter/bpo suits, and (c) my skill (which is modest compared to many). There's nothing stopping you from doing it to, except perhaps a defeatist attitude exhibited by the OP based upon the failed premise that it's PC that's causing the perceived skill gap. Because outside of NS, there really isn't anyone who is exploiting PC and using those gains to fund a protostomping playstyle. You may not be benefiting from it, but your corporation now has a serious stock-pile obtained through exploiting PC, I have not complained over protostomping Do what you like with your ISK, my complaints are due to ISK being earned via exploits Don't try turn this into a stomping issue, that is not the problem Stomping will always happen, it is the nature of Dust players 100+ player corps need to stop exploiting to have an advantage I can only give my opinion on forums Critic all you like, I want this game to progress



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