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Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:14:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Alternate Insano wrote: Scout's main weapons should be their laser designator. Oh, that's right, CCP didn't include that mechanic, which is basically the ONE THING A SCOUT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. Why the F did you even include scouts at all?!?
Do you mean the active scanner? That thing I have fit on pretty much every one of my combat logis, and a number of my assaults? No, it works like this. You point it at a target, the target shows up on the minimap of all your squad, and whoever is in a missle battery or whatever can lock on to your signal and shoot the enemy from miles away. It's awesome. We'd crawl through the sand, pop up over a dune, lase a T72, and BOOM the Apache pilot two miles away hits him with a Hellfire. Like I said, awesome. Scouts in DUST need to be able to do this. Having them running around like Power Rangers like they do now is foolish.
I have aksed for something like this for months now.
Many of the veteran "scouts" in this game often admit your key points - the light frame specialization shouldnt be named scout and CCP have done a woeful job of carving out a role.
Scout is one of the roles, Assassin is supposedly another and Saboteur another. - Because mechanics and WP havent been setup for most of this then many people will play the role like Rogues and Rangers from other RPG styled games.
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:15:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:TheD1CK wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:I was a 19D Cavalry Scout in the US Army. I have seen what real scouts do on a battlefield, and the wanna-be "scouts" in New Eden are no where close.
Your mission is to get in a squad and find enemies for your squad. Your squad comes and kills the enemies while you slip away to find more enemies for your squad.
It's so simple, yet, pretty much all scouts in this game get it wrong. This is easy to understand because CCP also doesn't understand what a scout's role is.
Scouts are not ninjas. They do not carry weapons like Nova Knives. I personally find NK scouts offensive to my former professsion.
Scouts are not CQCers. If you are engaging the enemy yourself, it's because you screwed up and they saw you.
Scout's main weapons should be their laser designator. Oh, that's right, CCP didn't include that mechanic, which is basically the ONE THING A SCOUT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. Why the F did you even include scouts at all?!?
God you guys suck at making video games. Sorry buddy, your hopes of re-living the old military days through Dust514 are done This is a sci-fi computer game, don't expect it to match up to your time in Military .... Dust is not real-life..... Yeah, I get that. I also have no interest in re-living my wicked awesome Army days with this wicked unawesome game. You see, laser designators were supposed to make it into the game. But they didn't. Why? It would be too easy to blow up AUR vehicles. This game only exists to sell AUR, so anything that could hurt sales will never make the cut. But, rather than scrap scouts all together even they don't have an actual, specific only to them role, CCP kept them in anyway. I mean, even -snipers- have a role in this game, i.e. shoot RR users. What is it a scout can do that some other class doesn't already do better? They slip by enemy lines flank create distractions ( because there stealth machanic) drop uplinks hack quicker min scouts create distractions so your team can push in. Be creative Dust 514 scouts aren't strait foward like most other suits . And Dust 514 is si-fi shooter not a military simulator get used to it.
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Darrius Smithmage
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
5
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:19:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Alternate Insano wrote: You can't be bothered to go look up what a RL scout is, so until you do you really can't say that for certain can you? since you clearly don't know the slightest of what I'm talking about.
Jumping out of airplanes with oxygen gear at 6 miles up and not pulling the ripcord until you are just over the treetops is fun.
Full auto shotguns are fun.
65 mph mechanized infantry fighting vehicles with rapid fire cannons and anti tank missles are fun.
Pointing a little device at a tank, bunker, or other installation and watching it disappear in a cloud of debris from the strike you called in is fun.
Dangling under a helicopter from a rope with all your friends is fun.
The Fulton Aerial Recovery System is like fishing for infantry with an airplane. Sorry, not like, literally is. FUN
You all are making it obvious that you are not even reading anything but one line from the OP and just blasting an opinion to try and make yourselves look clever. How lame.
No need for parachutes, we have inertia dampeners AA12 would be a cool addition, maybe a Minmatar SG MAV's SoonGäó Active Scanner, light stuff up for your squad leader so he can drop that OB where it's needed Dangling from anything in this game means death though I admit that it sounds like fun Last one sounds fun but current map size makes this impossible to execute As for the OP and the rest of the post made on the thread, I read them all. ps. Where is that cloaked heavy/commando? You boasted that you could perform every action of the scout in one after all pps. maybe scout suits should be named a guerilla/ranger suits? We don't have cloaks yet, I still have what, months? To figure out how to swing it. How does BF handle jets and such? Aren't we supposed to get those too? Or some other 'quick extraction' method, maybe modifying it to work for dropships. Simplest way would be some sort of pilot operated tractor beam, but that would be cheesy. There's ways to make it all work. Scouts should be the ultimate answer to tank spam, being able to light them up for swarm guys, turret gunners and all. That was another point I forget to make. less than a month till cloaks. You ***** at everyone else about not doing research and then don't do research... Dude, don't be a dumbass. Everyone knows when the devs -say- it will be out, I was being sarcastic. You are now officially grasping at straws to stay relevant to this conversation. Congrats. I understand and agree with you but I think it stupied how you name all these things real.scouts can do but your thread insult the scouts in "this game" .You can't say we don't know our role we can't do 90% of what you listed. And if your still not happy you can allways just leave. Before you yell at me I don't know what I'm talking I did research everything you talk about and it does.sound cool.Except I don't want missle.turrents and swarm harassing my ds all game but whatever. Oh and thanks for serveing you country I really mean that
So what if I roleplay calderi soldier for life! now stfu and gun for my lav.
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Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:19:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:Dude, don't be a dumbass. Everyone knows when the devs -say- it will be out, I was being sarcastic. You are now officially grasping at straws to stay relevant to this conversation. Congrats. Atleast I'm not being a douche about it I'm not a douche, I'm from Maine, so that makes me a dickhead. Lobster flavored.
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Darrius Smithmage
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:19:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Alternate Insano wrote: You can't be bothered to go look up what a RL scout is, so until you do you really can't say that for certain can you? since you clearly don't know the slightest of what I'm talking about.
Jumping out of airplanes with oxygen gear at 6 miles up and not pulling the ripcord until you are just over the treetops is fun.
Full auto shotguns are fun.
65 mph mechanized infantry fighting vehicles with rapid fire cannons and anti tank missles are fun.
Pointing a little device at a tank, bunker, or other installation and watching it disappear in a cloud of debris from the strike you called in is fun.
Dangling under a helicopter from a rope with all your friends is fun.
The Fulton Aerial Recovery System is like fishing for infantry with an airplane. Sorry, not like, literally is. FUN
You all are making it obvious that you are not even reading anything but one line from the OP and just blasting an opinion to try and make yourselves look clever. How lame.
No need for parachutes, we have inertia dampeners AA12 would be a cool addition, maybe a Minmatar SG MAV's SoonGäó Active Scanner, light stuff up for your squad leader so he can drop that OB where it's needed Dangling from anything in this game means death though I admit that it sounds like fun Last one sounds fun but current map size makes this impossible to execute As for the OP and the rest of the post made on the thread, I read them all. ps. Where is that cloaked heavy/commando? You boasted that you could perform every action of the scout in one after all pps. maybe scout suits should be named a guerilla/ranger suits? We don't have cloaks yet, I still have what, months? To figure out how to swing it. How does BF handle jets and such? Aren't we supposed to get those too? Or some other 'quick extraction' method, maybe modifying it to work for dropships. Simplest way would be some sort of pilot operated tractor beam, but that would be cheesy. There's ways to make it all work. Scouts should be the ultimate answer to tank spam, being able to light them up for swarm guys, turret gunners and all. That was another point I forget to make. less than a month till cloaks. You ***** at everyone else about not doing research and then don't do research... Dude, don't be a dumbass. Everyone knows when the devs -say- it will be out, I was being sarcastic. You are now officially grasping at straws to stay relevant to this conversation. Congrats. I understand and agree with you but I think it stupied how you name all these things real.scouts can do but your thread insult the scouts in "this game" .You can't say we don't know our role we can't do 90% of what you listed. And if your still not happy you can allways just leave. Before you yell at me I don't know what I'm talking I did research everything you talk about and it does.sound cool.Except I don't want missle.turrents and swarm harassing my ds all game but whatever. Oh and thanks for serveing you country I really mean that
So what if I roleplay calderi soldier for life! now stfu and gun for my lav.
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
1055
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:20:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Alternate Insano wrote: You can't be bothered to go look up what a RL scout is, so until you do you really can't say that for certain can you? since you clearly don't know the slightest of what I'm talking about.
Jumping out of airplanes with oxygen gear at 6 miles up and not pulling the ripcord until you are just over the treetops is fun.
Full auto shotguns are fun.
65 mph mechanized infantry fighting vehicles with rapid fire cannons and anti tank missles are fun.
Pointing a little device at a tank, bunker, or other installation and watching it disappear in a cloud of debris from the strike you called in is fun.
Dangling under a helicopter from a rope with all your friends is fun.
The Fulton Aerial Recovery System is like fishing for infantry with an airplane. Sorry, not like, literally is. FUN
You all are making it obvious that you are not even reading anything but one line from the OP and just blasting an opinion to try and make yourselves look clever. How lame.
No need for parachutes, we have inertia dampeners AA12 would be a cool addition, maybe a Minmatar SG MAV's SoonGäó Active Scanner, light stuff up for your squad leader so he can drop that OB where it's needed Dangling from anything in this game means death though I admit that it sounds like fun Last one sounds fun but current map size makes this impossible to execute As for the OP and the rest of the post made on the thread, I read them all. ps. Where is that cloaked heavy/commando? You boasted that you could perform every action of the scout in one after all pps. maybe scout suits should be named a guerilla/ranger suits? We don't have cloaks yet, I still have what, months? To figure out how to swing it. How does BF handle jets and such? Aren't we supposed to get those too? Or some other 'quick extraction' method, maybe modifying it to work for dropships. Simplest way would be some sort of pilot operated tractor beam, but that would be cheesy. There's ways to make it all work. Scouts should be the ultimate answer to tank spam, being able to light them up for swarm guys, turret gunners and all. That was another point I forget to make. less than a month till cloaks. You ***** at everyone else about not doing research and then don't do research... Dude, don't be a dumbass. Everyone knows when the devs -say- it will be out, I was being sarcastic. You are now officially grasping at straws to stay relevant to this conversation. Congrats.
No, I'm pointing out how you're entirely wrong and you're now trying to tell me that I'm not relevant to the conversation because you're in a fight you can't win.
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Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:22:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:And no, I wasn't stabbed. This has nothing to do with nova knives, other than I personally think they are the dumbest weapon in the game. Before any of you start puffing out your chests and start making all the "I'll show you blah blah blah" statements....
I got killed by a Nova Knife user. Once. During my first few days of playing. I was standing there, minding my own business, and this guy comes hopping across the map like a rabbit. I was like "WTF is this guy doing?" I thought he was screwing with me, so I started jumping up and down too. Then he stabbed me. I couldn't tell what he did, at first, I just lost a little health. Then a little more, Then I died.
First time, only time. Oh, they try, but I just wash them away with the fire hose like effect of my HMG. I laugh every time I see that animation.
Plus, they all give themselves away. Horrible, horrible. Jump right out, might as well shout "A-ha!" while they do it.
Ninja, they are not.
Thats down to the player though - not the weapon.
The best Knifers you never see or only when its too late. There are others that use it only as a sidearm so they can silently take out flanked enemies or in CQC when they can strafe or surprise opponents who might try to rush them.
I have been in rooms or around corners where I am trying to stay out of fire because the other suits have the HP advantage. Because of this they rush the poor little scout only to get surprised by two quick slashes or a timed charged slash. And I'm average.
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1369
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:28:00 -
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Squad view is still here for scouts, but it won't show EVERYONE.
Everyone can carry scanners.
You forget there's barely any cover to keep looking for reds around the whole map.
I agree that scouts should be renamed and that there should be another more scout based variation released as I have posted before.
Their description mentions stealth and assassinations.
America is not a standard (coming from an American).
It's just a game.
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
136
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:30:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:Slash Frenzy wrote:Quote:Sorry buddy, your hopes of re-living the old military days through Dust514 are done Pirate This is a sci-fi computer game, don't expect it to match up to your time in Military ....
Dust is not real-life..... This. But I agree most play the scout to offensive. Because most play alone and wanna earn WP to get SP. When I-¦m in a squad my main purpose is placing uplinks, hack uncovered objectives and kill sniper/scouts. I do see that this can be a description of the scout in this game. But, just my 2c. So, you use your scout as a logi? IS there anything you can do that another class can't? Everything you described I do with a commando. I'm just trying to figure if scouts even have a purpose. If anyone can do what they do, then I'd say they don't. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, just because a commando can drop uplinks, hack points and kill snipers doesn't mean its the best for the job. Otherwise we would only have 2 basic suits a heavy and a medium because between they can do every job EVER. It like telling my Minmatar Flanking suit is terrible because the Jobs I do with it can be done with any other suit. Which they can, but when your squad is pinned down I would much rather have a fast moderately dampned minmatar to say a lumbering brick tanked amarr as my flanker. But that doesn't mean someone else can play amarr as flanker it just doesn't suit MY style, it's not wrong but to me its not right either. We really only have 3 suits now, heavy, logi, and assault. but aren't you a dust514 super scub U Level 262 forum troll? Why should I Lisen to you?
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Alternate Insano
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:32:00 -
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Darrius, thank you for actually looking at what I was talking about. You are better understanding what your role should be. Not the lame assclown scouts you see now with nothing to do someone else can't already do.
Tell me hopping out of a DS onto an obj, hacking it, and using a DUST version of the FARS to get back on board so you and the pilot can zoom to the next one shouldn't be part of this game.
Or some version of a laser designator, if only to combat tank spam.
Or any of the rest.
Any of you who play scouts are being seriously let down, and undermined by the game. Quit buying what they're selling and demand better toys.
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Beck Weathers
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:35:00 -
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^ <- real life is this way ->
These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
136
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:39:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:Darrius, thank you for actually looking at what I was talking about. You are better understanding what your role should be. Not the lame assclown scouts you see now with nothing to do someone else can't already do.
Tell me hopping out of a DS onto an obj, hacking it, and using a DUST version of the FARS to get back on board so you and the pilot can zoom to the next one shouldn't be part of this game.
Or some version of a laser designator, if only to combat tank spam.
Or any of the rest.
Any of you who play scouts are being seriously let down, and undermined by the game. Quit buying what they're selling and demand better toys. You super dust 514 scrub how many people does it take to tellyou that this is a sci-fi you idiot your days in the military is not dust 514 . So please SHUT UP!!!
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Alternate Insano
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:39:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Squad view is still here for scouts, but it won't show EVERYONE.
Everyone can carry scanners.
You forget there's barely any cover to keep looking for reds around the whole map.
I agree that scouts should be renamed and that there should be another more scout based variation released as I have posted before.
Their description mentions stealth and assassinations.
America is not a standard (coming from an American).
It's just a game.
If you don't like it, leave.
I know everyone can carry scanners. I haven't mentioned them one single time this entire thread. Go look up what I'm talking about.
Scouts shouldn't be looking for enemy reds, they should be sneaking up behind vehicles.
I have no issue with the name and never said it should be changed
A mention is much different then their primary role. Killing things is the one common denominator throughout this game.
America sure as hell is not a standard, it's exceptional
Are you sure it's just a game and I'm not currently in Hell?
If I don't like it I try to make it better, when that fails, I just cause chaos. I'm still trying to make things better, btw.
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Alternate Insano
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:41:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:Darrius, thank you for actually looking at what I was talking about. You are better understanding what your role should be. Not the lame assclown scouts you see now with nothing to do someone else can't already do.
Tell me hopping out of a DS onto an obj, hacking it, and using a DUST version of the FARS to get back on board so you and the pilot can zoom to the next one shouldn't be part of this game.
Or some version of a laser designator, if only to combat tank spam.
Or any of the rest.
Any of you who play scouts are being seriously let down, and undermined by the game. Quit buying what they're selling and demand better toys. You super dust 514 scrub how many people does it take to tellyou that this is a sci-fi you idiot your days in the military is not dust 514 . So please SHUT UP!!! Dude, what are you jelly? Go enlist, it's easy.
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:45:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:Joel II X wrote:Squad view is still here for scouts, but it won't show EVERYONE.
Everyone can carry scanners.
You forget there's barely any cover to keep looking for reds around the whole map.
I agree that scouts should be renamed and that there should be another more scout based variation released as I have posted before.
Their description mentions stealth and assassinations.
America is not a standard (coming from an American).
It's just a game.
If you don't like it, leave. I know everyone can carry scanners. I haven't mentioned them one single time this entire thread. Go look up what I'm talking about. Scouts shouldn't be looking for enemy reds, they should be sneaking up behind vehicles. I have no issue with the name and never said it should be changed A mention is much different then their primary role. Killing things is the one common denominator throughout this game. America sure as hell is not a standard, it's exceptional Are you sure it's just a game and I'm not currently in Hell? If I don't like it I try to make it better, when that fails, I just cause chaos. I'm still trying to make things better, btw. Yes it is a GAME just like war the past 5 pages have said.
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:46:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:Darrius, thank you for actually looking at what I was talking about. You are better understanding what your role should be. Not the lame assclown scouts you see now with nothing to do someone else can't already do.
Tell me hopping out of a DS onto an obj, hacking it, and using a DUST version of the FARS to get back on board so you and the pilot can zoom to the next one shouldn't be part of this game.
Or some version of a laser designator, if only to combat tank spam.
Or any of the rest.
Any of you who play scouts are being seriously let down, and undermined by the game. Quit buying what they're selling and demand better toys. You super dust 514 scrub how many people does it take to tellyou that this is a sci-fi you idiot your days in the military is not dust 514 . So please SHUT UP!!! Dude, what are you jelly? Go enlist, it's easy. No one should be jelious of a scrub like you.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:46:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:I was a 19D Cavalry Scout in the US Army. I have seen what real scouts do on a battlefield, and the wanna-be "scouts" in New Eden are no where close.
Your mission is to get in a squad and find enemies for your squad. Your squad comes and kills the enemies while you slip away to find more enemies for your squad.
It's so simple, yet, pretty much all scouts in this game get it wrong. This is easy to understand because CCP also doesn't understand what a scout's role is.
Scouts are not ninjas. They do not carry weapons like Nova Knives. I personally find NK scouts offensive to my former professsion.
Scouts are not CQCers. If you are engaging the enemy yourself, it's because you screwed up and they saw you.
Scout's main weapons should be their laser designator. Oh, that's right, CCP didn't include that mechanic, which is basically the ONE THING A SCOUT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. Why the F did you even include scouts at all?!?
God you guys suck at making video games.
This is true. CCP seems incapable of fleshing out any role except the fabled "slayer".
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Awesome Pantaloons
Lokapalas.
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:48:00 -
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Why is everyone so against having some degree of realism in this game? I get that it is a sci-fi shooter video game, but does it not enhance the experience when something doesn't seem all that far from reality? Personally I enjoy it when a game throws in a few elements that mirror the world. Even 20,000 years won't change military that much. You know why?
Because war... War never changes.
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Hecarim Van Hohen
ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:48:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:America sure as hell is not a standard, it's exceptional Suspicions confirmed, OP is a troll
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Alternate Insano
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:49:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:Darrius, thank you for actually looking at what I was talking about. You are better understanding what your role should be. Not the lame assclown scouts you see now with nothing to do someone else can't already do.
Tell me hopping out of a DS onto an obj, hacking it, and using a DUST version of the FARS to get back on board so you and the pilot can zoom to the next one shouldn't be part of this game.
Or some version of a laser designator, if only to combat tank spam.
Or any of the rest.
Any of you who play scouts are being seriously let down, and undermined by the game. Quit buying what they're selling and demand better toys. You super dust 514 scrub how many people does it take to tellyou that this is a sci-fi you idiot your days in the military is not dust 514 . So please SHUT UP!!! Dude, what are you jelly? Go enlist, it's easy. No one should be jelious of a scrub like you. Well, it's just that it seems like all you want to talk about is my former service in the United States armed forces and not all the awesome ideas for things scouts should be doing. It's almost like you're not paying attention at all to the conversation.
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:49:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:TheD1CK wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:I was a 19D Cavalry Scout in the US Army. I have seen what real scouts do on a battlefield, and the wanna-be "scouts" in New Eden are no where close.
Your mission is to get in a squad and find enemies for your squad. Your squad comes and kills the enemies while you slip away to find more enemies for your squad.
It's so simple, yet, pretty much all scouts in this game get it wrong. This is easy to understand because CCP also doesn't understand what a scout's role is.
Scouts are not ninjas. They do not carry weapons like Nova Knives. I personally find NK scouts offensive to my former professsion.
Scouts are not CQCers. If you are engaging the enemy yourself, it's because you screwed up and they saw you.
Scout's main weapons should be their laser designator. Oh, that's right, CCP didn't include that mechanic, which is basically the ONE THING A SCOUT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. Why the F did you even include scouts at all?!?
God you guys suck at making video games. Sorry buddy, your hopes of re-living the old military days through Dust514 are done This is a sci-fi computer game, don't expect it to match up to your time in Military .... Dust is not real-life..... Yeah, I get that. I also have no interest in re-living my wicked awesome Army days with this wicked unawesome game. You see, laser designators were supposed to make it into the game. But they didn't. Why? It would be too easy to blow up AUR vehicles. This game only exists to sell AUR, so anything that could hurt sales will never make the cut. But, rather than scrap scouts all together even they don't have an actual, specific only to them role, CCP kept them in anyway. I mean, even -snipers- have a role in this game, i.e. shoot RR users. What is it a scout can do that some other class doesn't already do better? Would you mind sourcing that post for us? I've been around here for a LONG time, and I recall no mention of Laser Designators whatsoever.
Btw, that would also include conversations with Devs in IRC.
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One Eyed King
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:50:00 -
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Isn't the OP just another jerrmy 12/ NK Scout alt?
If so, I thought he was a 17 yo brat who would be too young for the army.
Looking for the scout hangout?
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Alternate Insano
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:52:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:TheD1CK wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:I was a 19D Cavalry Scout in the US Army. I have seen what real scouts do on a battlefield, and the wanna-be "scouts" in New Eden are no where close.
Your mission is to get in a squad and find enemies for your squad. Your squad comes and kills the enemies while you slip away to find more enemies for your squad.
It's so simple, yet, pretty much all scouts in this game get it wrong. This is easy to understand because CCP also doesn't understand what a scout's role is.
Scouts are not ninjas. They do not carry weapons like Nova Knives. I personally find NK scouts offensive to my former professsion.
Scouts are not CQCers. If you are engaging the enemy yourself, it's because you screwed up and they saw you.
Scout's main weapons should be their laser designator. Oh, that's right, CCP didn't include that mechanic, which is basically the ONE THING A SCOUT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. Why the F did you even include scouts at all?!?
God you guys suck at making video games. Sorry buddy, your hopes of re-living the old military days through Dust514 are done This is a sci-fi computer game, don't expect it to match up to your time in Military .... Dust is not real-life..... Yeah, I get that. I also have no interest in re-living my wicked awesome Army days with this wicked unawesome game. You see, laser designators were supposed to make it into the game. But they didn't. Why? It would be too easy to blow up AUR vehicles. This game only exists to sell AUR, so anything that could hurt sales will never make the cut. But, rather than scrap scouts all together even they don't have an actual, specific only to them role, CCP kept them in anyway. I mean, even -snipers- have a role in this game, i.e. shoot RR users. What is it a scout can do that some other class doesn't already do better? Would you mind sourcing that post for us? I've been around here for a LONG time, and I recall no mention of Laser Designators whatsoever. Btw, that would also include conversations with Devs in IRC. I would if I thought it would make any difference, but like that would happen.
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JARREL THOMAS
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:52:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:Darrius, thank you for actually looking at what I was talking about. You are better understanding what your role should be. Not the lame assclown scouts you see now with nothing to do someone else can't already do.
Tell me hopping out of a DS onto an obj, hacking it, and using a DUST version of the FARS to get back on board so you and the pilot can zoom to the next one shouldn't be part of this game.
Or some version of a laser designator, if only to combat tank spam.
Or any of the rest.
Any of you who play scouts are being seriously let down, and undermined by the game. Quit buying what they're selling and demand better toys. You super dust 514 scrub how many people does it take to tellyou that this is a sci-fi you idiot your days in the military is not dust 514 . So please SHUT UP!!! Dude, what are you jelly? Go enlist, it's easy. No one should be jelious of a scrub like you. Well, it's just that it seems like all you want to talk about is my former service in the United States armed forces and not all the awesome ideas for things scouts should be doing. It's almost like you're not paying attention at all to the conversation. Your profile says dust 514 super scrub
Level 262 forum troll well I wonder ...
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Alternate Insano
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:53:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Isn't the OP just another jerrmy 12/ NK Scout alt?
If so, I thought he was a 17 yo brat who would be too young for the army. He was the one who killed me with the goddamn nova knives.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:54:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Isn't the OP just another jerrmy 12/ NK Scout alt?
If so, I thought he was a 17 yo brat who would be too young for the army. He was the one who killed me with the goddamn nova knives.
Right...
Looking for the scout hangout?
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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:55:00 -
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It's just so good to know that everyone else is so supremely filling their role that we can focus on the shortcomings of scouts.
Start an alt, use no SP, grab a starter fit and join me in "no SP warriors" chat!
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:55:00 -
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real life =/= video game
Don't be a moron.
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JARREL THOMAS
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:57:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:Darrius, thank you for actually looking at what I was talking about. You are better understanding what your role should be. Not the lame assclown scouts you see now with nothing to do someone else can't already do.
Tell me hopping out of a DS onto an obj, hacking it, and using a DUST version of the FARS to get back on board so you and the pilot can zoom to the next one shouldn't be part of this game.
Or some version of a laser designator, if only to combat tank spam.
Or any of the rest.
Any of you who play scouts are being seriously let down, and undermined by the game. Quit buying what they're selling and demand better toys. You super dust 514 scrub how many people does it take to tellyou that this is a sci-fi you idiot your days in the military is not dust 514 . So please SHUT UP!!! Dude, what are you jelly? Go enlist, it's easy. No one should be jelious of a scrub like you. Well, it's just that it seems like all you want to talk about is my former service in the United States armed forces and not all the awesome ideas for things scouts should be doing. It's almost like you're not paying attention at all to the conversation. No it's the fact that having a bombardment from above would be op to vehicles and would neutrulize the reason to work for orbs vehicles shouldn't be destroyed to Easley since they cost so much DERP
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Posted - 2014.03.02 18:00:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Isn't the OP just another jerrmy 12/ NK Scout alt?
If so, I thought he was a 17 yo brat who would be too young for the army. He/she/it has more alts but are always easy to spot due to the bull that they post. |
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