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Alternate Insano
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Posted - 2014.03.02 14:24:00 -
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None of you get it. I'm not hung up on RL vs game. I'm hung up on 'makes any sense at all' vs game. And also 'scout class as-is is gay' vs game. And also 'what a let down' vs game And also 'run outta **** to do because this is just the Chinese Yamaha Rhino Clone of BF3 and was really hoping the scout class wasn't really as assclownish as it looked' vs game
If any of you only knew, you'd be like "Why the **** isn't this in the game?"
Go look up Bradleys, Mk19s, STROPE rigging, the FARS, laser designating targets, and HALO jumping, then come back and tell me if I'm wrong to be pissed how this whole class was done.
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Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2014.03.02 14:29:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:\tell me if I'm wrong to be pissed how this whole class was done.
its not a class its a suit, you make the class that you want to play using that suit.
this is of course limited to what mechanics/modules/features are in the game, but theres only so much that can be represented and unlike real life it has to be balanced.
your pissed because your "scout" isnt in the game, thats fine.
your "scout" cant exsist in the game, its not possable.
its an unreasonable expectation based on your real life experiance of what works and is possable. |
Alternate Insano
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Posted - 2014.03.02 14:37:00 -
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Vulcanus Lightbringer wrote:There's also the fact that fighting insurgents in the desert while having a serious advantage in equipment is probably different from fighting immortal space warriors 20,000 years in the future who have access to all the equipment that you have... Actually we were proto stomping the Republican Guard funny thing nobody went to the UN to QQ about us being OP.
And no, 20,000 yrs in the future if we're not already dead.....war fighting will be done with drones. We didn't have good ones back then.
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Vrain Matari
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Posted - 2014.03.02 14:45:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:Haha did you just try and compare real world military practices with a video game set 20,000 years in the future in a sci-fi universe? No, I'm pointing out a mechanic we were promised and will never see, without which an entire class has no purpose. Scouts can't do anything that another class can't already do. I'm trying to see if anybody can tell me what the advantage to being a DUST scout is, if there is one. Not an Easy Button, but something they can do that would com[pletely change my game experience and warrant specifically going 'scout' with an alt. I want to see something different than what I'm seeing with the light, medium ,heavy, and commando alts I'm using now. Grinding has become boring. I need something interesting to do. According to CPM members, promises made by the previous regime are null and void. The new EP has wiped the slate clean.
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Alternate Insano
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Posted - 2014.03.02 14:52:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:\tell me if I'm wrong to be pissed how this whole class was done. its not a class its a suit, you make the class that you want to play using that suit. this is of course limited to what mechanics/modules/features are in the game, but theres only so much that can be represented and unlike real life it has to be balanced. your pissed because your "scout" isnt in the game, thats fine. your "scout" cant exsist in the game, its not possable. its an unreasonable expectation based on your real life experiance of what works and is possable. Apparently I know more about DUST than you. All the points I have made were already supposed to be here. Go back and read press releases and write ups and just Google 'DUST 514'
Or, don't. Really don't care. And yes, after a year and these features are not included, given CCP's track record, it -would- be unreasonable of me to expect anything remotely awesome from this game. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Posted - 2014.03.02 15:01:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:\tell me if I'm wrong to be pissed how this whole class was done. its not a class its a suit, you make the class that you want to play using that suit. this is of course limited to what mechanics/modules/features are in the game, but theres only so much that can be represented and unlike real life it has to be balanced. your pissed because your "scout" isnt in the game, thats fine. your "scout" cant exsist in the game, its not possable. its an unreasonable expectation based on your real life experiance of what works and is possable. Apparently I know more about DUST than you. All the points I have made were already supposed to be here. Go back and read press releases and write ups and just Google 'DUST 514' Or, don't. Really don't care. And yes, after a year and these features are not included, given CCP's track record, it -would- be unreasonable of me to expect anything remotely awesome from this game. Thanks for pointing that out. So you don't like the game anymore and don't believe it will be fun to play in the forseeable future..... why are you still here??
Also, earlier you were asking what scouts could do thats better than other suits. Currently beating scanners with relative ease (easier in 1.8) which helps flanking enemies and sneaking up on targets unseen, minmatar can usually OHK with nova knives, Those are a few, much more once 1.8 arrives. One more thing, I'll be sure to send you a happy message when I shotgun you in the back! |
Surt gods end
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Posted - 2014.03.02 15:04:00 -
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If you played many FPS games then you know not to take "SCOUT" seriously. what FPS has a actual pure scout? come on man. It's just a class which lumps more recon and snipers and infiltrators together. No one will play just point and designate class. reason why you don't see em in games.
But the OPTION to play as that should be there. I'm also a military vet and enjoy the ghosts scouts here. They last of the ninja cowboys (word taken from my brothers who went to the private sector) And no I don't find private work wrong either. |
CRYPT3C W0LF
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Posted - 2014.03.02 15:20:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:I was a 19D Cavalry Scout in the US Army. I have seen what real scouts do on a battlefield, and the wanna-be "scouts" in New Eden are no where close.
Your mission is to get in a squad and find enemies for your squad. Your squad comes and kills the enemies while you slip away to find more enemies for your squad.
It's so simple, yet, pretty much all scouts in this game get it wrong. This is easy to understand because CCP also doesn't understand what a scout's role is.
Scouts are not ninjas. They do not carry weapons like Nova Knives. I personally find NK scouts offensive to my former professsion.
Scouts are not CQCers. If you are engaging the enemy yourself, it's because you screwed up and they saw you.
Scout's main weapons should be their laser designator. Oh, that's right, CCP didn't include that mechanic, which is basically the ONE THING A SCOUT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. Why the F did you even include scouts at all?!?
God you guys suck at making video games.
I find it Really hard to take you seriously when all you're other posts are that of a 12 year olds understanding. And Come'on If you think this game sucks, then go play some other game and stop polluting the forums. O.K?
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Alternate Insano
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Posted - 2014.03.02 15:26:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:If you played many FPS games then you know not to take "SCOUT" seriously. what FPS has a actual pure scout? come on man. It's just a class which lumps more recon and snipers and infiltrators together. No one will play just point and designate class. reason why you don't see em in games.
But the OPTION to play as that should be there. I'm also a military vet and enjoy the ghosts scouts here. They last of the ninja cowboys (word taken from my brothers who went to the private sector) And no I don't find private work wrong either. I didn't say a scout only did FO, just did so primarily, and that such a mechanic ought be included. My older bro is still in and is one of those ninja cowboys attatched to the 3rd ID. But that's more Black Ops II than large map open warfare situations. Small unit tactics. More of an assault suit type in game terms. He has one job and it's certaintly not hacking a CRU. More likely camping it. Certaintly not with a knife, either, those guys get the coolest toys. Tactical tomahawks. Silenced Shotguns, and that's just what he'll admit to.
Again, rather than tell me I'm an idiot you would all be better off going and looking at what I'm talking about. I'm only attempting to enlighten you all to something you all will want anyway.
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Heathen Bastard
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Posted - 2014.03.02 15:26:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:TheD1CK wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:I was a 19D Cavalry Scout in the US Army. I have seen what real scouts do on a battlefield, and the wanna-be "scouts" in New Eden are no where close.
Your mission is to get in a squad and find enemies for your squad. Your squad comes and kills the enemies while you slip away to find more enemies for your squad.
It's so simple, yet, pretty much all scouts in this game get it wrong. This is easy to understand because CCP also doesn't understand what a scout's role is.
Scouts are not ninjas. They do not carry weapons like Nova Knives. I personally find NK scouts offensive to my former professsion.
Scouts are not CQCers. If you are engaging the enemy yourself, it's because you screwed up and they saw you.
Scout's main weapons should be their laser designator. Oh, that's right, CCP didn't include that mechanic, which is basically the ONE THING A SCOUT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. Why the F did you even include scouts at all?!?
God you guys suck at making video games. Sorry buddy, your hopes of re-living the old military days through Dust514 are done This is a sci-fi computer game, don't expect it to match up to your time in Military .... Dust is not real-life..... Yeah, I get that. I also have no interest in re-living my wicked awesome Army days with this wicked unawesome game. You see, laser designators were supposed to make it into the game. But they didn't. Why? It would be too easy to blow up AUR vehicles. This game only exists to sell AUR, so anything that could hurt sales will never make the cut. But, rather than scrap scouts all together even they don't have an actual, specific only to them role, CCP kept them in anyway. I mean, even -snipers- have a role in this game, i.e. shoot RR users. What is it a scout can do that some other class doesn't already do better?
Currently? get under scanners like a bastard. 1.8? cloak for virtually nothing compared to anyone else, and if you go caldari, best scanner in the game. you go minmatar, you'll be an assassin/agent of chaos, hacking the entire enemy line before they realize someone's there. gallente, and the only way they'll ever know you're there is to actually see you.
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Meeko Fent
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Posted - 2014.03.02 15:38:00 -
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So, you want DUST to be Arma?
THIS ISN'T REAL LIFE.
Seriously. Stop thinking that.
The closest thing we should balance scouts too is the TF2 Scouts. Soft and Squishy, but very fast.
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Hecarim Van Hohen
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Posted - 2014.03.02 15:49:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:I stand by my statement that there's nothing a scout suit can do that I can't do with a sentinel, commando, or even mly heavy. I can even put your silly little knives on my suit. But you can't put my HMG on yours. I win.
Make an effective cloak fit for your heavy or commando
Also just to be sure even you get it
Real World Gëá Game
Realism Gëá Fun
Your concept (while based on real world) of scout Gëá Fun
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Alternate Insano
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Posted - 2014.03.02 15:50:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:So, you want DUST to be Arma?
THIS ISN'T REAL LIFE.
Seriously. Stop thinking that.
The closest thing we should balance scouts too is the TF2 Scouts. Soft and Squishy, but very fast. I KNOW THIS ISNT REAL LIFE I HAVE SAID SO NOW OVER AND OVER FOR THOSE OF YOU TOO STUPID TO READ
I don't want DUST to be CoD I don't want DSUT to be BF4 I don't want DUST to be Arma
I want DUST to not suck, which it does, the big one. The big bumpy pee pee OMG what is that rash from STD one.
Apparently, you all want it to continue to suck. None of you have gone and looked at what I was talking about, but you all have no problem telling me I'm wrong.
Suck much? Know you're wrong much? Scared this game will become popular and good players will actually come here and your proto won't mean **** much?
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Posted - 2014.03.02 16:03:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:So, you want DUST to be Arma?
THIS ISN'T REAL LIFE.
Seriously. Stop thinking that.
The closest thing we should balance scouts too is the TF2 Scouts. Soft and Squishy, but very fast. I KNOW THIS ISNT REAL LIFE I HAVE SAID SO NOW OVER AND OVER FOR THOSE OF YOU TOO STUPID TO READ I don't want DUST to be CoD I don't want DSUT to be BF4 I don't want DUST to be Arma I want DUST to not suck, which it does, the big one. The big bumpy pee pee OMG what is that rash from STD one. Apparently, you all want it to continue to suck. None of you have gone and looked at what I was talking about, but you all have no problem telling me I'm wrong. Suck much? Know you're wrong much? Scared this game will become popular and good players will actually come here and your proto won't mean **** much?
You want DUST scouts to not be DUST scouts. Yes, I know that "IN MA ARMY DAYZ!" scout meant something completely different than what they are in this game(and possibly today's military, changing face of war and all that)
This is how DUST scouts are. Quiet, sneaky, killing and running away. We are the embodiment of asymmetrical warfare, we kill what we can, leave, and relay what's left to the team. or if it looks too difficult, skip the killing part and just relay it to the team, waiting until they're engaged to shoot them in the back or lay a trap for their impending retreat.
You really seem to have something against Knife using scouts. I don't know why, they're only useful in a few situations unless you're really damn good with them. Or maybe you just don't like knives? One suit gets a bonus to knives, a massive bonus that turns them into the hands down most effective weapon(short of REs) for when you sneak up on an opponent. You won't survive a fight, so you need a lot of alpha damage to drop them before there is a fight, so knives become the go to weapon for close quarters out of necessity due to their massive damage(you can get it up to around 1400 ish on a full charge with proto, prof, and a damage mod, and a maxed out suit. IIRC)
If you have such a hardon for being Mr. Lockon designator guy, go play Battlefield.
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Alternate Insano
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Posted - 2014.03.02 16:10:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:I stand by my statement that there's nothing a scout suit can do that I can't do with a sentinel, commando, or even mly heavy. I can even put your silly little knives on my suit. But you can't put my HMG on yours. I win. Make an effective cloak fit for your heavy or commando Also just to be sure even you get it Real World Gëá Game Realism Gëá Fun Your concept (while based on real world) of scout Gëá Fun You can't be bothered to go look up what a RL scout is, so until you do you really can't say that for certain can you? since you clearly don't know the slightest of what I'm talking about.
Jumping out of airplanes with oxygen gear at 6 miles up and not pulling the ripcord until you are just over the treetops is fun.
Full auto shotguns are fun.
65 mph mechanized infantry fighting vehicles with rapid fire cannons and anti tank missles are fun.
Pointing a little device at a tank, bunker, or other installation and watching it disappear in a cloud of debris from the strike you called in is fun.
Dangling under a helicopter from a rope with all your friends is fun.
The Fulton Aerial Recovery System is like fishing for infantry with an airplane. Sorry, not like, literally is. FUN
You all are making it obvious that you are not even reading anything but one line from the OP and just blasting an opinion to try and make yourselves look clever. How lame.
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Hecarim Van Hohen
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Posted - 2014.03.02 16:24:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote: You can't be bothered to go look up what a RL scout is, so until you do you really can't say that for certain can you? since you clearly don't know the slightest of what I'm talking about.
Jumping out of airplanes with oxygen gear at 6 miles up and not pulling the ripcord until you are just over the treetops is fun.
Full auto shotguns are fun.
65 mph mechanized infantry fighting vehicles with rapid fire cannons and anti tank missles are fun.
Pointing a little device at a tank, bunker, or other installation and watching it disappear in a cloud of debris from the strike you called in is fun.
Dangling under a helicopter from a rope with all your friends is fun.
The Fulton Aerial Recovery System is like fishing for infantry with an airplane. Sorry, not like, literally is. FUN
You all are making it obvious that you are not even reading anything but one line from the OP and just blasting an opinion to try and make yourselves look clever. How lame.
No need for parachutes, we have inertia dampeners
AA12 would be a cool addition, maybe a Minmatar SG
MAV's SoonGäó
Active Scanner, light stuff up for your squad leader so he can drop that OB where it's needed
Dangling from anything in this game means death though I admit that it sounds like fun
Last one sounds fun but current map size makes this impossible to execute
As for the OP and the rest of the post made on the thread, I read them all.
ps. Where is that cloaked heavy/commando? You boasted that you could perform every action of the scout in one after all
pps. maybe scout suits should be named a guerilla/ranger suits?
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Alternate Insano
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Posted - 2014.03.02 16:33:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Alternate Insano wrote: You can't be bothered to go look up what a RL scout is, so until you do you really can't say that for certain can you? since you clearly don't know the slightest of what I'm talking about.
Jumping out of airplanes with oxygen gear at 6 miles up and not pulling the ripcord until you are just over the treetops is fun.
Full auto shotguns are fun.
65 mph mechanized infantry fighting vehicles with rapid fire cannons and anti tank missles are fun.
Pointing a little device at a tank, bunker, or other installation and watching it disappear in a cloud of debris from the strike you called in is fun.
Dangling under a helicopter from a rope with all your friends is fun.
The Fulton Aerial Recovery System is like fishing for infantry with an airplane. Sorry, not like, literally is. FUN
You all are making it obvious that you are not even reading anything but one line from the OP and just blasting an opinion to try and make yourselves look clever. How lame.
No need for parachutes, we have inertia dampeners AA12 would be a cool addition, maybe a Minmatar SG MAV's SoonGäó Active Scanner, light stuff up for your squad leader so he can drop that OB where it's needed Dangling from anything in this game means death though I admit that it sounds like fun Last one sounds fun but current map size makes this impossible to execute As for the OP and the rest of the post made on the thread, I read them all. ps. Where is that cloaked heavy/commando? You boasted that you could perform every action of the scout in one after all pps. maybe scout suits should be named a guerilla/ranger suits? We don't have cloaks yet, I still have what, months? To figure out how to swing it. How does BF handle jets and such? Aren't we supposed to get those too? Or some other 'quick extraction' method, maybe modifying it to work for dropships. Simplest way would be some sort of pilot operated tractor beam, but that would be cheesy. There's ways to make it all work.
Scouts should be the ultimate answer to tank spam, being able to light them up for swarm guys, turret gunners and all. That was another point I forget to make.
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Posted - 2014.03.02 16:35:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Alternate Insano wrote: You can't be bothered to go look up what a RL scout is, so until you do you really can't say that for certain can you? since you clearly don't know the slightest of what I'm talking about.
Jumping out of airplanes with oxygen gear at 6 miles up and not pulling the ripcord until you are just over the treetops is fun.
Full auto shotguns are fun.
65 mph mechanized infantry fighting vehicles with rapid fire cannons and anti tank missles are fun.
Pointing a little device at a tank, bunker, or other installation and watching it disappear in a cloud of debris from the strike you called in is fun.
Dangling under a helicopter from a rope with all your friends is fun.
The Fulton Aerial Recovery System is like fishing for infantry with an airplane. Sorry, not like, literally is. FUN
You all are making it obvious that you are not even reading anything but one line from the OP and just blasting an opinion to try and make yourselves look clever. How lame.
No need for parachutes, we have inertia dampeners AA12 would be a cool addition, maybe a Minmatar SG MAV's SoonGäó Active Scanner, light stuff up for your squad leader so he can drop that OB where it's needed Dangling from anything in this game means death though I admit that it sounds like fun Last one sounds fun but current map size makes this impossible to execute As for the OP and the rest of the post made on the thread, I read them all. ps. Where is that cloaked heavy/commando? You boasted that you could perform every action of the scout in one after all pps. maybe scout suits should be named a guerilla/ranger suits? We don't have cloaks yet, I still have what, months? To figure out how to swing it. How does BF handle jets and such? Aren't we supposed to get those too? Or some other 'quick extraction' method, maybe modifying it to work for dropships. Simplest way would be some sort of pilot operated tractor beam, but that would be cheesy. There's ways to make it all work. Scouts should be the ultimate answer to tank spam, being able to light them up for swarm guys, turret gunners and all. That was another point I forget to make.
less than a month till cloaks. You ***** at everyone else about not doing research and then don't do research...
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Posted - 2014.03.02 16:47:00 -
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*Puts glasses on* Well... If we're talking real life here then lets put some hypothetical scenarios in this thread.
WE'RE FREAKING 20,000 YEARS IN THE FUTURE HTFU!!
But on a side note I salute you for serving your country
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Reav Hannari
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Posted - 2014.03.02 16:51:00 -
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I'm deeply disappointed that I can't play a 96B. The best I can do is hang out in the MCC and stare at the map for the entire match attempting to guess where the enemy force is located. I should be able to skill up Chair Sitting and Map Symbols to 5.
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Alternate Insano
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Posted - 2014.03.02 16:53:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Alternate Insano wrote: You can't be bothered to go look up what a RL scout is, so until you do you really can't say that for certain can you? since you clearly don't know the slightest of what I'm talking about.
Jumping out of airplanes with oxygen gear at 6 miles up and not pulling the ripcord until you are just over the treetops is fun.
Full auto shotguns are fun.
65 mph mechanized infantry fighting vehicles with rapid fire cannons and anti tank missles are fun.
Pointing a little device at a tank, bunker, or other installation and watching it disappear in a cloud of debris from the strike you called in is fun.
Dangling under a helicopter from a rope with all your friends is fun.
The Fulton Aerial Recovery System is like fishing for infantry with an airplane. Sorry, not like, literally is. FUN
You all are making it obvious that you are not even reading anything but one line from the OP and just blasting an opinion to try and make yourselves look clever. How lame.
No need for parachutes, we have inertia dampeners AA12 would be a cool addition, maybe a Minmatar SG MAV's SoonGäó Active Scanner, light stuff up for your squad leader so he can drop that OB where it's needed Dangling from anything in this game means death though I admit that it sounds like fun Last one sounds fun but current map size makes this impossible to execute As for the OP and the rest of the post made on the thread, I read them all. ps. Where is that cloaked heavy/commando? You boasted that you could perform every action of the scout in one after all pps. maybe scout suits should be named a guerilla/ranger suits? We don't have cloaks yet, I still have what, months? To figure out how to swing it. How does BF handle jets and such? Aren't we supposed to get those too? Or some other 'quick extraction' method, maybe modifying it to work for dropships. Simplest way would be some sort of pilot operated tractor beam, but that would be cheesy. There's ways to make it all work. Scouts should be the ultimate answer to tank spam, being able to light them up for swarm guys, turret gunners and all. That was another point I forget to make. less than a month till cloaks. You ***** at everyone else about not doing research and then don't do research... Dude, don't be a dumbass. Everyone knows when the devs -say- it will be out, I was being sarcastic. You are now officially grasping at straws to stay relevant to this conversation. Congrats.
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Alternate Insano
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Posted - 2014.03.02 16:55:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:I'm deeply disappointed that I can't play a 96B. The best I can do is hang out in the MCC and stare at the map for the entire match attempting to guess where the enemy force is located. I should be able to skill up Chair Sitting and Map Symbols to 5. I'm pretty sure there's something like that in EVE, you should try that.
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Demon Buddah
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Posted - 2014.03.02 16:57:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:I was a 19D Cavalry Scout in the US Army. I have seen what real scouts do on a battlefield, and the wanna-be "scouts" in New Eden are no where close.
Your mission is to get in a squad and find enemies for your squad. Your squad comes and kills the enemies while you slip away to find more enemies for your squad.
It's so simple, yet, pretty much all scouts in this game get it wrong. This is easy to understand because CCP also doesn't understand what a scout's role is.
Scouts are not ninjas. They do not carry weapons like Nova Knives. I personally find NK scouts offensive to my former professsion.
Scouts are not CQCers. If you are engaging the enemy yourself, it's because you screwed up and they saw you.
Scout's main weapons should be their laser designator. Oh, that's right, CCP didn't include that mechanic, which is basically the ONE THING A SCOUT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. Why the F did you even include scouts at all?!?
God you guys suck at making video games. Did we stab you or something? Is that why you're here? 1.) it's a game 2.) it's in the future, so the role could change 3.) it's a game 4.) Scout is just a role name, it's like assaults using rep tools or needles, wouldn't that make them a medic then? 5.) it's a game 6.) Skeet 7.) sweg 8.) Murrica 9.) Minmitar scouts are really the only real "Ninjas" in the game. They are "assassins" and finally the most important 10.) It's a game (shocker) |
Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
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Posted - 2014.03.02 16:59:00 -
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Demon Buddah wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:I was a 19D Cavalry Scout in the US Army. I have seen what real scouts do on a battlefield, and the wanna-be "scouts" in New Eden are no where close.
Your mission is to get in a squad and find enemies for your squad. Your squad comes and kills the enemies while you slip away to find more enemies for your squad.
It's so simple, yet, pretty much all scouts in this game get it wrong. This is easy to understand because CCP also doesn't understand what a scout's role is.
Scouts are not ninjas. They do not carry weapons like Nova Knives. I personally find NK scouts offensive to my former professsion.
Scouts are not CQCers. If you are engaging the enemy yourself, it's because you screwed up and they saw you.
Scout's main weapons should be their laser designator. Oh, that's right, CCP didn't include that mechanic, which is basically the ONE THING A SCOUT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. Why the F did you even include scouts at all?!?
God you guys suck at making video games. Did we stab you or something? Is that why you're here? 1.) it's a game 2.) it's in the future, so the role could change 3.) it's a game 4.) Scout is just a role name, it's like assaults using rep tools or needles, wouldn't that make them a medic then? 5.) it's a game 6.) Skeet 7.) sweg 8.) Murrica 9.) Minmitar scouts are really the only real "Ninjas" in the game. They are "assassins" and finally the most important 10.) It's a game (shocker) So, just another one who didn't read the thread, and is only here to try to make themselves look cool? Super, this game doesn't have nearly enough of those.
DUST 514 Super Scrub
Level 262 Forum Troll
Play, or play not. There is no balance.
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Demon Buddah
Corporate Disaster
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:02:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:Demon Buddah wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:I was a 19D Cavalry Scout in the US Army. I have seen what real scouts do on a battlefield, and the wanna-be "scouts" in New Eden are no where close.
Your mission is to get in a squad and find enemies for your squad. Your squad comes and kills the enemies while you slip away to find more enemies for your squad.
It's so simple, yet, pretty much all scouts in this game get it wrong. This is easy to understand because CCP also doesn't understand what a scout's role is.
Scouts are not ninjas. They do not carry weapons like Nova Knives. I personally find NK scouts offensive to my former professsion.
Scouts are not CQCers. If you are engaging the enemy yourself, it's because you screwed up and they saw you.
Scout's main weapons should be their laser designator. Oh, that's right, CCP didn't include that mechanic, which is basically the ONE THING A SCOUT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. Why the F did you even include scouts at all?!?
God you guys suck at making video games. Did we stab you or something? Is that why you're here? 1.) it's a game 2.) it's in the future, so the role could change 3.) it's a game 4.) Scout is just a role name, it's like assaults using rep tools or needles, wouldn't that make them a medic then? 5.) it's a game 6.) Skeet 7.) sweg 8.) Murrica 9.) Minmitar scouts are really the only real "Ninjas" in the game. They are "assassins" and finally the most important 10.) It's a game (shocker) So, just another one who didn't read the thread, and is only here to try to make themselves look cool? Super, this game doesn't have nearly enough of those. Am I cool yet mom? |
Crimson ShieId
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:06:00 -
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Stay away from my Minja! *Holds Nova Knives close, petting them lovingly* Don't worry, we won't let the mean Amarr hurt you.
Go play Battlefield 4 It has what you seek. Or Arma.
Sometimes I miss never seeing tanks in a battle... then I remember the mystical flying soma, and I can't help but smile.
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Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
211
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:08:00 -
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And no, I wasn't stabbed. This has nothing to do with nova knives, other than I personally think they are the dumbest weapon in the game. Before any of you start puffing out your chests and start making all the "I'll show you blah blah blah" statements....
I got killed by a Nova Knife user. Once. During my first few days of playing. I was standing there, minding my own business, and this guy comes hopping across the map like a rabbit. I was like "WTF is this guy doing?" I thought he was screwing with me, so I started jumping up and down too. Then he stabbed me. I couldn't tell what he did, at first, I just lost a little health. Then a little more, Then I died.
First time, only time. Oh, they try, but I just wash them away with the fire hose like effect of my HMG. I laugh every time I see that animation.
Plus, they all give themselves away. Horrible, horrible. Jump right out, might as well shout "A-ha!" while they do it.
Ninja, they are not.
DUST 514 Super Scrub
Level 262 Forum Troll
Play, or play not. There is no balance.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:09:00 -
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Oh I'm sorry, I didn't know you were god and you get to decide our role. **** you.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
3852
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:12:00 -
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most people think scouts are assasins of sorts....
and wouldnt the scanner be the equivalent of your laser thingy?
(just wondering not trashing you or anybody)
Scout- "I'm going to knife you my commando!!!"
commando turns around
Commando- "FAAAAALCCCOOONNNNN PUUUUNNNCCCCHH!!"
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Hecarim Van Hohen
ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:14:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:Dude, don't be a dumbass. Everyone knows when the devs -say- it will be out, I was being sarcastic. You are now officially grasping at straws to stay relevant to this conversation. Congrats. Atleast I'm not being a douche about it
BANGO SKANK WAS HERE
1.7 best match (HMG): 40/9/9 (K/A/D)
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