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Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 204	Posted - 2014.03.02 11:10:00 - [1] - Quote I was a 19D Cavalry Scout in the US Army. I have seen what real scouts do on a battlefield, and the wanna-be "scouts" in New Eden are no where close. Your mission is to get in a squad and find enemies for your squad. Your squad comes and kills the enemies while you slip away to find more enemies for your squad. It's so simple, yet, pretty much all scouts in this game get it wrong. This is easy to understand because CCP also doesn't understand what a scout's role is. Scouts are not ninjas. They do not carry weapons like Nova Knives. I personally find NK scouts offensive to my former professsion. Scouts are not CQCers. If you are engaging the enemy yourself, it's because you screwed up and they saw you. Scout's main weapons should be their laser designator. Oh, that's right, CCP didn't include that mechanic, which is basically the ONE THING A SCOUT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. Why the F did you even include scouts at all?!? God you guys suck at making video games. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 204	Posted - 2014.03.02 11:18:00 - [2] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: Scout's main weapons should be their laser designator. Oh, that's right, CCP didn't include that mechanic, which is basically the ONE THING A SCOUT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. Why the F did you even include scouts at all?!? Do you mean the active scanner? That thing I have fit on pretty much every one of my combat logis, and a number of my assaults? No, it works like this. You point it at a target, the target shows up on the minimap of all your squad, and whoever is in a missle battery or whatever can lock on to your signal and shoot the enemy from miles away. It's awesome. We'd crawl through the sand, pop up over a dune, lase a T72, and BOOM the Apache pilot two miles away hits him with a Hellfire. Like I said, awesome. Scouts in DUST need to be able to do this. Having them running around like Power Rangers like they do now is foolish. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 204	Posted - 2014.03.02 11:30:00 - [3] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: I was a 19D Cavalry Scout in the US Army. I have seen what real scouts do on a battlefield, and the wanna-be "scouts" in New Eden are no where close. Your mission is to get in a squad and find enemies for your squad. Your squad comes and kills the enemies while you slip away to find more enemies for your squad. It's so simple, yet, pretty much all scouts in this game get it wrong. This is easy to understand because CCP also doesn't understand what a scout's role is. Scouts are not ninjas. They do not carry weapons like Nova Knives. I personally find NK scouts offensive to my former professsion. Scouts are not CQCers. If you are engaging the enemy yourself, it's because you screwed up and they saw you. Scout's main weapons should be their laser designator. Oh, that's right, CCP didn't include that mechanic, which is basically the ONE THING A SCOUT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. Why the F did you even include scouts at all?!? God you guys suck at making video games. Sorry buddy, your hopes of re-living the old military days through Dust514 are done This is a sci-fi computer game, don't expect it to match up to your time in Military .... Dust is not real-life..... Yeah, I get that. I also have no interest in re-living my wicked awesome Army days with this wicked unawesome game. You see, laser designators were supposed to make it into the game. But they didn't. Why? It would be too easy to blow up AUR vehicles. This game only exists to sell AUR, so anything that could hurt sales will never make the cut. But, rather than scrap scouts all together even they don't have an actual, specific only to them role, CCP kept them in anyway. I mean, even -snipers- have a role in this game, i.e. shoot RR users. What is it a scout can do that some other class doesn't already do better? DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 204	Posted - 2014.03.02 11:31:00 - [4] - Quote Krixus Flux wrote: oh wow, you're military! That means you're a god at this game! Callate Not yet, but I've only got 2 million SP. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 204	Posted - 2014.03.02 11:34:00 - [5] - Quote Slash Frenzy wrote: Quote: Sorry buddy, your hopes of re-living the old military days through Dust514 are done Pirate This is a sci-fi computer game, don't expect it to match up to your time in Military .... Dust is not real-life..... This. But I agree that most play the scout to offensive. Because most play alone and wanna earn WP to get SP. When I-¦m in a squad my main purpose is placing uplinks, hack uncovered objectives and kill sniper/scouts. I do see that this can be a description of the scout in this game. But, just my 2c. So, you use your scout as a logi? IS there anything you can do that another class can't? Everything you described I do with a commando. I'm just trying to figure if scouts even have a purpose. If anyone can do what they do, then I'd say they don't. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 204	Posted - 2014.03.02 11:36:00 - [6] - Quote tander09 wrote: So I cannot have my Dual SMGs then? I would love to dual wield weapons. Especially dual Assault CRs. It would be like goldeneye from back in the day on the N64. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 204	Posted - 2014.03.02 11:38:00 - [7] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: AV/Scanning/Hacking/Assassinations .... yup we are not meant for 1v1 fights, thats what Assault is for I enjoy scout as it provides a challenge, more enjoyable than 800+ HP assaults with rifles, Scouts are the skilled killers in Dust Because if you mess up, your dead 800 hp assault suits? Mine has like 350..... no wonder I get killed every time I put it on. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 205	Posted - 2014.03.02 11:44:00 - [8] - Quote COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: Haha did you just try and compare real world military practices with a video game set 20,000 years in the future in a sci-fi universe? No, I'm pointing out a mechanic we were promised and will never see, without which an entire class has no purpose. Scouts can't do anything that another class can't already do. I'm trying to see if anybody can tell me what the advantage to being a DUST scout is, if there is one. Not an Easy Button, but something they can do that would com[pletely change my game experience and warrant specifically going 'scout' with an alt. I want to see something different than what I'm seeing with the light, medium ,heavy, and commando alts I'm using now. Grinding has become boring. I need something interesting to do. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 206	Posted - 2014.03.02 11:48:00 - [9] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Sorry if you find it offensive, but this is a game. Do you really think most people would play a scout just to use a laser designator? Do you really think most people would play a heavy just to play defense role? Do you really think most people would play a Logistics just to be a medic? The idea of this game is you are given the choice to play it however you want. If you want to be a guy in a scout suit running round with active scanner and using squad commands like a laser designator that is your perogative. If the guy next to you wants to be a damn power ranger then he can be. There are no set "roles" if you want to play heavy you play it how you want, you do that, give him a laser rifle and watch in glee as people run from your long ramge weapon, you wanna be a mad bomber with a logistics suit be my guest, you wanna be some kind of chuck norris beating people to death fine by me. We are not should not be forced into set roles its good for the game. You call racial bonuses for suits and weapons 'Not Being Forced Into Set Roles'? And also, yes, to your first question, if this was any other game. but I have to keep reminding myself where I am. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 206	Posted - 2014.03.02 11:58:00 - [10] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: Slash Frenzy wrote: Quote: Sorry buddy, your hopes of re-living the old military days through Dust514 are done Pirate This is a sci-fi computer game, don't expect it to match up to your time in Military .... Dust is not real-life..... This. But I agree most play the scout to offensive. Because most play alone and wanna earn WP to get SP. When I-¦m in a squad my main purpose is placing uplinks, hack uncovered objectives and kill sniper/scouts. I do see that this can be a description of the scout in this game. But, just my 2c. So, you use your scout as a logi? IS there anything you can do that another class can't? Everything you described I do with a commando. I'm just trying to figure if scouts even have a purpose. If anyone can do what they do, then I'd say they don't. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, just because a commando can drop uplinks, hack points and kill snipers doesn't mean its the best for the job. Otherwise we would only have 2 basic suits a heavy and a medium because between they can do every job EVER. It like telling my Minmatar Flanking suit is terrible because the Jobs I do with it can be done with any other suit. Which they can, but when your squad is pinned down I would much rather have a fast moderately dampned minmatar to say a lumbering brick tanked amarr as my flanker. But that doesn't mean someone else can play amarr as flanker it just doesn't suit MY style, it's not wrong but to me its not right either. We really only have 3 suits now, heavy, logi, and assault. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.

Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 206	Posted - 2014.03.02 12:11:00 - [11] - Quote INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: I was a 19D Cavalry Scout in the US Army. I have seen what real scouts do on a battlefield, and the wanna-be "scouts" in New Eden are no where close. Your mission is to get in a squad and find enemies for your squad. Your squad comes and kills the enemies while you slip away to find more enemies for your squad. It's so simple, yet, pretty much all scouts in this game get it wrong. This is easy to understand because CCP also doesn't understand what a scout's role is. Scouts are not ninjas. They do not carry weapons like Nova Knives. I personally find NK scouts offensive to my former professsion. Scouts are not CQCers. If you are engaging the enemy yourself, it's because you screwed up and they saw you. Scout's main weapons should be their laser designator. Oh, that's right, CCP didn't include that mechanic, which is basically the ONE THING A SCOUT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. Why the F did you even include scouts at all?!? God you guys suck at making video games. You do realize that the classes and roles are not defined by your interpretation of what the United States Army uses scouts for? They are defined by the people who make this game, and its based on space man technology, far in the future, where scouts have knives, and do what the **** we want..... Why do people always feel the need to put their b u l l s h I t on how we are supposed to utilize our suits, why the he ll does it matter what I do with my suit? When the day comes that the insufferable amount of bitching from this player base leads to hard roles being defined by ccp to the point that we cant create the custom fits that are really at the heart of why this game is still bad ass, on that day dust will die..... Our ability to have the freedom to make suit choices both good and bad are 1of the top 3 reasons I play dust.... The game makers can define the suit role, but how you implement that role and to what end is our choice. No one here should be telling others how to use a suit or gun, thats why logis are being nerfed, and yet we will always slay because when you spawn in your gun is in your hand, not, your rep tool.... Heavies will continue to use rr, because they can, and scouts will continue to cut your efing head off because its fun and cool and difficult.... Dont define my roll, know your own, slow it down, and get good with it. CCP is already forcing us into specific roles with bs racial bonuses. But if you like running around thinking you're really being a "scout" doing whatever it is you're doing that everybody else can do, whatevs man. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 206	Posted - 2014.03.02 12:30:00 - [12] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: I was a 19D Cavalry Scout in the US Army. I have seen what real scouts do on a battlefield, and the wanna-be "scouts" in New Eden are no where close. Your mission is to get in a squad and find enemies for your squad. Your squad comes and kills the enemies while you slip away to find more enemies for your squad. It's so simple, yet, pretty much all scouts in this game get it wrong. This is easy to understand because CCP also doesn't understand what a scout's role is. Scouts are not ninjas. They do not carry weapons like Nova Knives. I personally find NK scouts offensive to my former professsion. Scouts are not CQCers. If you are engaging the enemy yourself, it's because you screwed up and they saw you. Scout's main weapons should be their laser designator. Oh, that's right, CCP didn't include that mechanic, which is basically the ONE THING A SCOUT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. Why the F did you even include scouts at all?!? God you guys suck at making video games. You do realize that the classes and roles are not defined by your interpretation of what the United States Army uses scouts for? They are defined by the people who make this game, and its based on space man technology, far in the future, where scouts have knives, and do what the **** we want..... Why do people always feel the need to put their b u l l s h I t on how we are supposed to utilize our suits, why the he ll does it matter what I do with my suit? When the day comes that the insufferable amount of bitching from this player base leads to hard roles being defined by ccp to the point that we cant create the custom fits that are really at the heart of why this game is still bad ass, on that day dust will die..... Our ability to have the freedom to make suit choices both good and bad are 1of the top 3 reasons I play dust.... The game makers can define the suit role, but how you implement that role and to what end is our choice. No one here should be telling others how to use a suit or gun, thats why logis are being nerfed, and yet we will always slay because when you spawn in your gun is in your hand, not, your rep tool.... Heavies will continue to use rr, because they can, and scouts will continue to cut your efing head off because its fun and cool and difficult.... Dont define my roll, know your own, slow it down, and get good with it. CCP is already forcing us into specific roles with bs racial bonuses. But if you like running around thinking you're really being a "scout" doing whatever it is you're doing that everybody else can do, whatevs man. again your thinking wrong... they arnt being scouts, they are acting as other things in "scout" suits.... just because its a "scout" suit doesnt mean its a scout man. "scout" suits in this game are used for targetted assasination of high priority targets, disruption, uplink hunting, uplink placing, and being able to operate in the oponents areas of control without being instantly noticed. no other suit can acomplish those goals as well. they dont think they are army scouts, they are in "scout" suits doing roles that only "scout" suits can do. its a game and these are game mechanics, everything operates within certain parameters that simply dont exsist in real life. Except those are not roles only a scout suit user can do. I could do all those things with my heavy, and do it with a HMG, which only a heavy can use. See what I'm getting at? I'm trying to stay interested in this game, but there's nothing to do. I've wrung the life from light, medium, and heavy suits. I've seen everything they offer. And I've only been playing like 5 weeks now. Beyond the scout suit pissing me off due to reasons I previously stated, I had hoped taking on that role would give me something new, which it apparently cannot. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 206	Posted - 2014.03.02 12:37:00 - [13] - Quote Oxskull Duncarino wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: I was a 19D Cavalry Scout in the US Army. I have seen what real scouts do on a battlefield, and the wanna-be "scouts" in New Eden are no where close. Your mission is to get in a squad and find enemies for your squad. Your squad comes and kills the enemies while you slip away to find more enemies for your squad. It's so simple, yet, pretty much all scouts in this game get it wrong. This is easy to understand because CCP also doesn't understand what a scout's role is. Scouts are not ninjas. They do not carry weapons like Nova Knives. I personally find NK scouts offensive to my former professsion. Scouts are not CQCers. If you are engaging the enemy yourself, it's because you screwed up and they saw you. Scout's main weapons should be their laser designator. Oh, that's right, CCP didn't include that mechanic, which is basically the ONE THING A SCOUT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. Why the F did you even include scouts at all?!? God you guys suck at making video games. Ooh you adorable idiot Here's a fun fact! While they can and do take influence from real life, video games are not real life What, next are you going to try to compare heavies with HMGs and massive armor plates with shielding etc., to............................., or transfer of memories from one clone to another is similar in RL to.....................yeh, you're going to have a slight problem there. Actually, you'll have a problem with most elements of Dust if you try to compare them like that. Lol, I've the utmost respect for most present/past military personal, but your post is idiotic to the extreme, when you compare what those that have served in RL have done with a game. What I find more funny is that you think a suit class name denotes a players roles in a game that promotes flexibility. A fast suit that is usually invisible to all other classes unless they're in the FOV, is perfectly suited to the use of shotguns, NKs , remotes, etc., that involves getting in close for a ninja like ambush, and then disappearing again. Edit - What I posted has already been said here, but a little repetition shouldn't hurt here You sure can tell when players have never even seen military tactics or weapons up close. They have no appreciation for how things actually work. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 206	Posted - 2014.03.02 12:41:00 - [14] - Quote COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: I can't wait for my min scout to: do 1000 damage in an instant (mmm charged proto NK swipe!...hope my math is right!) hack 60% quicker (25% role bonus, 10% min scout bonus, 25% hack skill) avoid adv scanners without mods (35 scan profile) cloak without gimping whole fitting (75% reduced PG CPU cost) have TWO equipment slots - this is huge AND have light and side arm Go on about how the scout can't uniquely excel at its role compared to other suits. Post a video of you doing all of the above in another suit and I'll give you 50,000,000 ISK. Well, since you can't do any of the above with your SCOUT SUIT (haha) that just doesn't make any sense in the context of this discussion. Waiting on these updates, LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL How long have you been waiting? I stand by my statement that there's nothing a scout suit can do that I can't do with a sentinel, commando, or even mly heavy. I can even put your silly little knives on my suit. But you can't put my HMG on yours. I win. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 206	Posted - 2014.03.02 12:47:00 - [15] - Quote Oxskull Duncarino wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: Oxskull Duncarino wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: I was a 19D Cavalry Scout in the US Army. I have seen what real scouts do on a battlefield, and the wanna-be "scouts" in New Eden are no where close. Your mission is to get in a squad and find enemies for your squad. Your squad comes and kills the enemies while you slip away to find more enemies for your squad. It's so simple, yet, pretty much all scouts in this game get it wrong. This is easy to understand because CCP also doesn't understand what a scout's role is. Scouts are not ninjas. They do not carry weapons like Nova Knives. I personally find NK scouts offensive to my former professsion. Scouts are not CQCers. If you are engaging the enemy yourself, it's because you screwed up and they saw you. Scout's main weapons should be their laser designator. Oh, that's right, CCP didn't include that mechanic, which is basically the ONE THING A SCOUT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. Why the F did you even include scouts at all?!? God you guys suck at making video games. Ooh you adorable idiot Here's a fun fact! While they can and do take influence from real life, video games are not real life What, next are you going to try to compare heavies with HMGs and massive armor plates with shielding etc., to............................., or transfer of memories from one clone to another is similar in RL to.....................yeh, you're going to have a slight problem there. Actually, you'll have a problem with most elements of Dust if you try to compare them like that. Lol, I've the utmost respect for most present/past military personal, but your post is idiotic to the extreme, when you compare what those that have served in RL have done with a game. What I find more funny is that you think a suit class name denotes a players roles in a game that promotes flexibility. A fast suit that is usually invisible to all other classes unless they're in the FOV, is perfectly suited to the use of shotguns, NKs , remotes, etc., that involves getting in close for a ninja like ambush, and then disappearing again. Edit - What I posted has already been said here, but a little repetition shouldn't hurt here You sure can tell when players have never even seen military tactics or weapons up close. They have no appreciation for how things actually work. I've used plenty, both hardware and tactics, but that's not the point here. The point is that some idiot, yourself, doesn't know when to stop digging the hole, whether it's a really bad troll attempt or unfortunately your actual opinion. I'm the idiot? You're the one who keeps coming back to my thread... DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 206	Posted - 2014.03.02 12:51:00 - [16] - Quote COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: I can't wait for my min scout to: do 1000 damage in an instant (mmm charged proto NK swipe!...hope my math is right!) hack 60% quicker (25% role bonus, 10% min scout bonus, 25% hack skill) avoid adv scanners without mods (35 scan profile) cloak without gimping whole fitting (75% reduced PG CPU cost) have TWO equipment slots - this is huge AND have light and side arm Go on about how the scout can't uniquely excel at its role compared to other suits. Post a video of you doing all of the above in another suit and I'll give you 50,000,000 ISK. Well, since you can't do any of the above with your SCOUT SUIT (haha) that just doesn't make any sense in the context of this discussion. Waiting on these updates, LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL How long have you been waiting? I stand by my statement that there's nothing a scout suit can do that I can't do with a sentinel, commando, or even mly heavy. I can even put your silly little knives on my suit. But you can't put my HMG on yours. I win. Perhaps you should have indicated in your OP that you were talking specifically about pre 1.8 scouts. When 1.8 hits I'll have proven you 100% wrong with what I said though so enjoy being 'right' for another two weeks or so. Feel better? If we really do get all those updates I'll use the alt I've been banking SP with to do the scout suit thing. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 206	Posted - 2014.03.02 13:15:00 - [17] - Quote Hagintora wrote: If you think you've identified a problem (lack of role for Scouts), what would your solution be? Besides never getting into combat? This is an FPS game, and as someone else pointed out, never getting to do anything besides look at bad guys gets boring. So what would you propose as a possible solution/role for Scouts to play, that lives up to the name "Scout", and is still fun to play? These were my major jobs as a Cav scout: Ride around in a Bradley IFV. I was too tall to drive, fit in the turret, or load the TOW tubes, so I did dismount. I carried a USAS or M249 SAW, wore heavy body armor, and would surpress an area so that the infantry unit on board could dismount the vehicle. Switched from that to roof gunner on a Hummer. Used a Mk19. Basically a belt fed, full automatic mass driver accurate up to a mile if somebody was on the other end laseing the target. Lase targets for gunships, tanks, LAVs, and missle batteries. This was dangerous. You had to sneak way into enemy lines, not get seen, and designate targets. Always a chance of getting blown up by the strike you called in. Decoy Duty. Get behind enemy ines, cause enough of a distraction to get the enemy's attention, hold the aggro until the infantry can get there and save you. Certain scout units would go in with major ground forces, then break away and recover intel. This is kind of like hacking CRUs and such I suppose. I jumped out of every aircraft the US military uses for that purpose, and a couple that they don't. Scouts should be on a dropship every chance they get. Hitch a ride to the other end of the map, air drop in, get to work. Scouts should be proficient with all the longer range weapons. The best way to avoid a noisy fight is to shoot the guy from like 800m with a silenced weapon. Game mechanics don't support this however. Scouts should be masters of explosives, both to eliminate enemy assets and to cause the big distractions for decoy duty. However, mechanics are not included that would give any WP for doing this role. Just like how good PlC users get screwed for no WP for clearing an obj after firing 1 shot and all the bad guys run away. Aside from occasionally STROPE rigging or using the FARS being a scout was a crappy job, and pretty much a stepping stone toward Rangers for anyone planning to stay in long. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 206	Posted - 2014.03.02 13:48:00 - [18] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: Hagintora wrote: If you think you've identified a problem (lack of role for Scouts), what would your solution be? Besides never getting into combat? This is an FPS game, and as someone else pointed out, never getting to do anything besides look at bad guys gets boring. So what would you propose as a possible solution/role for Scouts to play, that lives up to the name "Scout", and is still fun to play? These were my major jobs as a Cav scout: Ride around in a Bradley IFV. I was too tall to drive, fit in the turret, or load the TOW tubes, so I did dismount. I carried a USAS or M249 SAW, wore heavy body armor, and would surpress an area so that the infantry unit on board could dismount the vehicle. Switched from that to roof gunner on a Hummer. Used a Mk19. Basically a belt fed, full automatic mass driver accurate up to a mile if somebody was on the other end laseing the target. Lase targets for gunships, tanks, LAVs, and missle batteries. This was dangerous. You had to sneak way into enemy lines, not get seen, and designate targets. Always a chance of getting blown up by the strike you called in. Decoy Duty. Get behind enemy ines, cause enough of a distraction to get the enemy's attention, hold the aggro until the infantry can get there and save you. Certain scout units would go in with major ground forces, then break away and recover intel. This is kind of like hacking CRUs and such I suppose. I jumped out of every aircraft the US military uses for that purpose, and a couple that they don't. Scouts should be on a dropship every chance they get. Hitch a ride to the other end of the map, air drop in, get to work. Scouts should be proficient with all the longer range weapons. The best way to avoid a noisy fight is to shoot the guy from like 800m with a silenced weapon. Game mechanics don't support this however. Scouts should be masters of explosives, both to eliminate enemy assets and to cause the big distractions for decoy duty. However, mechanics are not included that would give any WP for doing this role. Just like how good PlC users get screwed for no WP for clearing an obj after firing 1 shot and all the bad guys run away. Aside from occasionally STROPE rigging or using the FARS being a scout was a crappy job, and pretty much a stepping stone toward Rangers for anyone planning to stay in long. AAAANNNDDD none of that is applicable to dust, as the laws in the dust universe change how you would idealy want to aproch situations. scouts should stay out of dropships, they get shot out. scouts should stay out of LAVs, they get shot out. scouts usually do carry explosives and oeprate quite well doing exactly the thi9ng you seem to think they dont get any WP for doing.... dust=/=real life, in this game we are immortal, have different amounts of HP, can modify our suits to increase abilities that we cant have in the real world, weapons function in ways that break the laws of physics, dropships fly like spaceships, you can magically point a device around and see everyhting that isnt packing dapmeners, etcetcetcetc. for every rule that is different from the laws of the world we live in, it changes what the ideal aproch would be inside of dust. your amry training has made you bad at this game, and it should or you wouldnt be any good to the army. your job means that you HAVE to think in the terms you do becuase its life or death. but ultimatly the dust universe simply doesnt work like that and CANT work like that its simply not possable. My Army training has made me excel at fps games. A workplace injury that left me with 1 fully operational hand is what hurt my game. And, no, scouts get no WP for distracting the enemy so friendlies can kill them. Just like no WP for area surpression. Also, if you're getting shot out of dropships and LAVs I'd say you're not doing it right. Your LAV driver is going to close to the main enemy force and your DS pilot is flying too low. You should look up HALO jumping and take a page from that. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 206	Posted - 2014.03.02 14:24:00 - [19] - Quote None of you get it. I'm not hung up on RL vs game. I'm hung up on 'makes any sense at all' vs game. And also 'scout class as-is is gay' vs game. And also 'what a let down' vs game And also 'run outta ** to do because this is just the Chinese Yamaha Rhino Clone of BF3 and was really hoping the scout class wasn't really as assclownish as it looked' vs game If any of you only knew, you'd be like "Why the ** isn't this in the game?" Go look up Bradleys, Mk19s, STROPE rigging, the FARS, laser designating targets, and HALO jumping, then come back and tell me if I'm wrong to be pissed how this whole class was done. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 206	Posted - 2014.03.02 14:37:00 - [20] - Quote Vulcanus Lightbringer wrote: There's also the fact that fighting insurgents in the desert while having a serious advantage in equipment is probably different from fighting immortal space warriors 20,000 years in the future who have access to all the equipment that you have... Actually we were proto stomping the Republican Guard funny thing nobody went to the UN to QQ about us being OP. And no, 20,000 yrs in the future if we're not already dead.....war fighting will be done with drones. We didn't have good ones back then. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.

Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 207	Posted - 2014.03.02 14:52:00 - [21] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: \tell me if I'm wrong to be pissed how this whole class was done. its not a class its a suit, you make the class that you want to play using that suit. this is of course limited to what mechanics/modules/features are in the game, but theres only so much that can be represented and unlike real life it has to be balanced. your pissed because your "scout" isnt in the game, thats fine. your "scout" cant exsist in the game, its not possable. its an unreasonable expectation based on your real life experiance of what works and is possable. Apparently I know more about DUST than you. All the points I have made were already supposed to be here. Go back and read press releases and write ups and just Google 'DUST 514' Or, don't. Really don't care. And yes, after a year and these features are not included, given CCP's track record, it -would- be unreasonable of me to expect anything remotely awesome from this game. Thanks for pointing that out. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 208	Posted - 2014.03.02 15:26:00 - [22] - Quote Surt gods end wrote: If you played many FPS games then you know not to take "SCOUT" seriously. what FPS has a actual pure scout? come on man. It's just a class which lumps more recon and snipers and infiltrators together. No one will play just point and designate class. reason why you don't see em in games. But the OPTION to play as that should be there. I'm also a military vet and enjoy the ghosts scouts here. They last of the ninja cowboys (word taken from my brothers who went to the private sector) And no I don't find private work wrong either. I didn't say a scout only did FO, just did so primarily, and that such a mechanic ought be included. My older bro is still in and is one of those ninja cowboys attatched to the 3rd ID. But that's more Black Ops II than large map open warfare situations. Small unit tactics. More of an assault suit type in game terms. He has one job and it's certaintly not hacking a CRU. More likely camping it. Certaintly not with a knife, either, those guys get the coolest toys. Tactical tomahawks. Silenced Shotguns, and that's just what he'll admit to. Again, rather than tell me I'm an idiot you would all be better off going and looking at what I'm talking about. I'm only attempting to enlighten you all to something you all will want anyway. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 209	Posted - 2014.03.02 15:50:00 - [23] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: So, you want DUST to be Arma? THIS ISN'T REAL LIFE. Seriously. Stop thinking that. The closest thing we should balance scouts too is the TF2 Scouts. Soft and Squishy, but very fast. I KNOW THIS ISNT REAL LIFE I HAVE SAID SO NOW OVER AND OVER FOR THOSE OF YOU TOO STUPID TO READ I don't want DUST to be CoD I don't want DSUT to be BF4 I don't want DUST to be Arma I want DUST to not suck, which it does, the big one. The big bumpy pee pee OMG what is that rash from STD one. Apparently, you all want it to continue to suck. None of you have gone and looked at what I was talking about, but you all have no problem telling me I'm wrong. Suck much? Know you're wrong much? Scared this game will become popular and good players will actually come here and your proto won't mean **** much? DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 209	Posted - 2014.03.02 16:10:00 - [24] - Quote Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: I stand by my statement that there's nothing a scout suit can do that I can't do with a sentinel, commando, or even mly heavy. I can even put your silly little knives on my suit. But you can't put my HMG on yours. I win. Make an effective cloak fit for your heavy or commando Also just to be sure even you get it Real World Gëá Game Realism Gëá Fun Your concept (while based on real world) of scout Gëá Fun You can't be bothered to go look up what a RL scout is, so until you do you really can't say that for certain can you? since you clearly don't know the slightest of what I'm talking about. Jumping out of airplanes with oxygen gear at 6 miles up and not pulling the ripcord until you are just over the treetops is fun. Full auto shotguns are fun. 65 mph mechanized infantry fighting vehicles with rapid fire cannons and anti tank missles are fun. Pointing a little device at a tank, bunker, or other installation and watching it disappear in a cloud of debris from the strike you called in is fun. Dangling under a helicopter from a rope with all your friends is fun. The Fulton Aerial Recovery System is like fishing for infantry with an airplane. Sorry, not like, literally is. FUN You all are making it obvious that you are not even reading anything but one line from the OP and just blasting an opinion to try and make yourselves look clever. How lame. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 209	Posted - 2014.03.02 16:33:00 - [25] - Quote Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: You can't be bothered to go look up what a RL scout is, so until you do you really can't say that for certain can you? since you clearly don't know the slightest of what I'm talking about. Jumping out of airplanes with oxygen gear at 6 miles up and not pulling the ripcord until you are just over the treetops is fun. Full auto shotguns are fun. 65 mph mechanized infantry fighting vehicles with rapid fire cannons and anti tank missles are fun. Pointing a little device at a tank, bunker, or other installation and watching it disappear in a cloud of debris from the strike you called in is fun. Dangling under a helicopter from a rope with all your friends is fun. The Fulton Aerial Recovery System is like fishing for infantry with an airplane. Sorry, not like, literally is. FUN You all are making it obvious that you are not even reading anything but one line from the OP and just blasting an opinion to try and make yourselves look clever. How lame. No need for parachutes, we have inertia dampeners AA12 would be a cool addition, maybe a Minmatar SG MAV's SoonGäó Active Scanner, light stuff up for your squad leader so he can drop that OB where it's needed Dangling from anything in this game means death though I admit that it sounds like fun Last one sounds fun but current map size makes this impossible to execute As for the OP and the rest of the post made on the thread, I read them all. ps. Where is that cloaked heavy/commando? You boasted that you could perform every action of the scout in one after all pps. maybe scout suits should be named a guerilla/ranger suits? We don't have cloaks yet, I still have what, months? To figure out how to swing it. How does BF handle jets and such? Aren't we supposed to get those too? Or some other 'quick extraction' method, maybe modifying it to work for dropships. Simplest way would be some sort of pilot operated tractor beam, but that would be cheesy. There's ways to make it all work. Scouts should be the ultimate answer to tank spam, being able to light them up for swarm guys, turret gunners and all. That was another point I forget to make. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 209	Posted - 2014.03.02 16:53:00 - [26] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: You can't be bothered to go look up what a RL scout is, so until you do you really can't say that for certain can you? since you clearly don't know the slightest of what I'm talking about. Jumping out of airplanes with oxygen gear at 6 miles up and not pulling the ripcord until you are just over the treetops is fun. Full auto shotguns are fun. 65 mph mechanized infantry fighting vehicles with rapid fire cannons and anti tank missles are fun. Pointing a little device at a tank, bunker, or other installation and watching it disappear in a cloud of debris from the strike you called in is fun. Dangling under a helicopter from a rope with all your friends is fun. The Fulton Aerial Recovery System is like fishing for infantry with an airplane. Sorry, not like, literally is. FUN You all are making it obvious that you are not even reading anything but one line from the OP and just blasting an opinion to try and make yourselves look clever. How lame. No need for parachutes, we have inertia dampeners AA12 would be a cool addition, maybe a Minmatar SG MAV's SoonGäó Active Scanner, light stuff up for your squad leader so he can drop that OB where it's needed Dangling from anything in this game means death though I admit that it sounds like fun Last one sounds fun but current map size makes this impossible to execute As for the OP and the rest of the post made on the thread, I read them all. ps. Where is that cloaked heavy/commando? You boasted that you could perform every action of the scout in one after all pps. maybe scout suits should be named a guerilla/ranger suits? We don't have cloaks yet, I still have what, months? To figure out how to swing it. How does BF handle jets and such? Aren't we supposed to get those too? Or some other 'quick extraction' method, maybe modifying it to work for dropships. Simplest way would be some sort of pilot operated tractor beam, but that would be cheesy. There's ways to make it all work. Scouts should be the ultimate answer to tank spam, being able to light them up for swarm guys, turret gunners and all. That was another point I forget to make. less than a month till cloaks. You ***** at everyone else about not doing research and then don't do research... Dude, don't be a dumbass. Everyone knows when the devs -say- it will be out, I was being sarcastic. You are now officially grasping at straws to stay relevant to this conversation. Congrats. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 209	Posted - 2014.03.02 16:55:00 - [27] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: I'm deeply disappointed that I can't play a 96B. The best I can do is hang out in the MCC and stare at the map for the entire match attempting to guess where the enemy force is located. I should be able to skill up Chair Sitting and Map Symbols to 5. I'm pretty sure there's something like that in EVE, you should try that. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 211	Posted - 2014.03.02 16:59:00 - [28] - Quote Demon Buddah wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: I was a 19D Cavalry Scout in the US Army. I have seen what real scouts do on a battlefield, and the wanna-be "scouts" in New Eden are no where close. Your mission is to get in a squad and find enemies for your squad. Your squad comes and kills the enemies while you slip away to find more enemies for your squad. It's so simple, yet, pretty much all scouts in this game get it wrong. This is easy to understand because CCP also doesn't understand what a scout's role is. Scouts are not ninjas. They do not carry weapons like Nova Knives. I personally find NK scouts offensive to my former professsion. Scouts are not CQCers. If you are engaging the enemy yourself, it's because you screwed up and they saw you. Scout's main weapons should be their laser designator. Oh, that's right, CCP didn't include that mechanic, which is basically the ONE THING A SCOUT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. Why the F did you even include scouts at all?!? God you guys suck at making video games. Did we stab you or something? Is that why you're here? 1.) it's a game 2.) it's in the future, so the role could change 3.) it's a game 4.) Scout is just a role name, it's like assaults using rep tools or needles, wouldn't that make them a medic then? 5.) it's a game 6.) Skeet 7.) sweg 8.) Murrica 9.) Minmitar scouts are really the only real "Ninjas" in the game. They are "assassins" and finally the most important 10.) It's a game (shocker) So, just another one who didn't read the thread, and is only here to try to make themselves look cool? Super, this game doesn't have nearly enough of those. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 211	Posted - 2014.03.02 17:08:00 - [29] - Quote And no, I wasn't stabbed. This has nothing to do with nova knives, other than I personally think they are the dumbest weapon in the game. Before any of you start puffing out your chests and start making all the "I'll show you blah blah blah" statements.... I got killed by a Nova Knife user. Once. During my first few days of playing. I was standing there, minding my own business, and this guy comes hopping across the map like a rabbit. I was like "WTF is this guy doing?" I thought he was screwing with me, so I started jumping up and down too. Then he stabbed me. I couldn't tell what he did, at first, I just lost a little health. Then a little more, Then I died. First time, only time. Oh, they try, but I just wash them away with the fire hose like effect of my HMG. I laugh every time I see that animation. Plus, they all give themselves away. Horrible, horrible. Jump right out, might as well shout "A-ha!" while they do it. Ninja, they are not. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 215	Posted - 2014.03.02 17:19:00 - [30] - Quote Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: Dude, don't be a dumbass. Everyone knows when the devs -say- it will be out, I was being sarcastic. You are now officially grasping at straws to stay relevant to this conversation. Congrats. Atleast I'm not being a douche about it I'm not a douche, I'm from Maine, so that makes me a dickhead. Lobster flavored. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.

Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 215	Posted - 2014.03.02 17:32:00 - [31] - Quote Darrius, thank you for actually looking at what I was talking about. You are better understanding what your role should be. Not the lame assclown scouts you see now with nothing to do someone else can't already do. Tell me hopping out of a DS onto an obj, hacking it, and using a DUST version of the FARS to get back on board so you and the pilot can zoom to the next one shouldn't be part of this game. Or some version of a laser designator, if only to combat tank spam. Or any of the rest. Any of you who play scouts are being seriously let down, and undermined by the game. Quit buying what they're selling and demand better toys. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 216	Posted - 2014.03.02 17:39:00 - [32] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Squad view is still here for scouts, but it won't show EVERYONE. Everyone can carry scanners. You forget there's barely any cover to keep looking for reds around the whole map. I agree that scouts should be renamed and that there should be another more scout based variation released as I have posted before. Their description mentions stealth and assassinations. America is not a standard (coming from an American). It's just a game. If you don't like it, leave. I know everyone can carry scanners. I haven't mentioned them one single time this entire thread. Go look up what I'm talking about. Scouts shouldn't be looking for enemy reds, they should be sneaking up behind vehicles. I have no issue with the name and never said it should be changed A mention is much different then their primary role. Killing things is the one common denominator throughout this game. America sure as hell is not a standard, it's exceptional Are you sure it's just a game and I'm not currently in Hell? If I don't like it I try to make it better, when that fails, I just cause chaos. I'm still trying to make things better, btw. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 216	Posted - 2014.03.02 17:41:00 - [33] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: Darrius, thank you for actually looking at what I was talking about. You are better understanding what your role should be. Not the lame assclown scouts you see now with nothing to do someone else can't already do. Tell me hopping out of a DS onto an obj, hacking it, and using a DUST version of the FARS to get back on board so you and the pilot can zoom to the next one shouldn't be part of this game. Or some version of a laser designator, if only to combat tank spam. Or any of the rest. Any of you who play scouts are being seriously let down, and undermined by the game. Quit buying what they're selling and demand better toys. You super dust 514 scrub how many people does it take to tellyou that this is a sci-fi you idiot your days in the military is not dust 514 . So please SHUT UP!!! Dude, what are you jelly? Go enlist, it's easy. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 216	Posted - 2014.03.02 17:49:00 - [34] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: Darrius, thank you for actually looking at what I was talking about. You are better understanding what your role should be. Not the lame assclown scouts you see now with nothing to do someone else can't already do. Tell me hopping out of a DS onto an obj, hacking it, and using a DUST version of the FARS to get back on board so you and the pilot can zoom to the next one shouldn't be part of this game. Or some version of a laser designator, if only to combat tank spam. Or any of the rest. Any of you who play scouts are being seriously let down, and undermined by the game. Quit buying what they're selling and demand better toys. You super dust 514 scrub how many people does it take to tellyou that this is a sci-fi you idiot your days in the military is not dust 514 . So please SHUT UP!!! Dude, what are you jelly? Go enlist, it's easy. No one should be jelious of a scrub like you. Well, it's just that it seems like all you want to talk about is my former service in the United States armed forces and not all the awesome ideas for things scouts should be doing. It's almost like you're not paying attention at all to the conversation. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 216	Posted - 2014.03.02 17:52:00 - [35] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: TheD1CK wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: I was a 19D Cavalry Scout in the US Army. I have seen what real scouts do on a battlefield, and the wanna-be "scouts" in New Eden are no where close. Your mission is to get in a squad and find enemies for your squad. Your squad comes and kills the enemies while you slip away to find more enemies for your squad. It's so simple, yet, pretty much all scouts in this game get it wrong. This is easy to understand because CCP also doesn't understand what a scout's role is. Scouts are not ninjas. They do not carry weapons like Nova Knives. I personally find NK scouts offensive to my former professsion. Scouts are not CQCers. If you are engaging the enemy yourself, it's because you screwed up and they saw you. Scout's main weapons should be their laser designator. Oh, that's right, CCP didn't include that mechanic, which is basically the ONE THING A SCOUT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. Why the F did you even include scouts at all?!? God you guys suck at making video games. Sorry buddy, your hopes of re-living the old military days through Dust514 are done This is a sci-fi computer game, don't expect it to match up to your time in Military .... Dust is not real-life..... Yeah, I get that. I also have no interest in re-living my wicked awesome Army days with this wicked unawesome game. You see, laser designators were supposed to make it into the game. But they didn't. Why? It would be too easy to blow up AUR vehicles. This game only exists to sell AUR, so anything that could hurt sales will never make the cut. But, rather than scrap scouts all together even they don't have an actual, specific only to them role, CCP kept them in anyway. I mean, even -snipers- have a role in this game, i.e. shoot RR users. What is it a scout can do that some other class doesn't already do better? Would you mind sourcing that post for us? I've been around here for a LONG time, and I recall no mention of Laser Designators whatsoever. Btw, that would also include conversations with Devs in IRC. I would if I thought it would make any difference, but like that would happen. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 216	Posted - 2014.03.02 17:53:00 - [36] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Isn't the OP just another jerrmy 12/ NK Scout alt? If so, I thought he was a 17 yo brat who would be too young for the army. He was the one who killed me with the goddamn nova knives. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 216	Posted - 2014.03.02 18:03:00 - [37] - Quote Alternate Insano wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: Darrius, thank you for actually looking at what I was talking about. You are better understanding what your role should be. Not the lame assclown scouts you see now with nothing to do someone else can't already do. Tell me hopping out of a DS onto an obj, hacking it, and using a DUST version of the FARS to get back on board so you and the pilot can zoom to the next one shouldn't be part of this game. Or some version of a laser designator, if only to combat tank spam. Or any of the rest. Any of you who play scouts are being seriously let down, and undermined by the game. Quit buying what they're selling and demand better toys. You super dust 514 scrub how many people does it take to tellyou that this is a sci-fi you idiot your days in the military is not dust 514 . So please SHUT UP!!! Dude, what are you jelly? Go enlist, it's easy. No one should be jelious of a scrub like you.[/quote] Well, it's just that it seems like all you want to talk about is my former service in the United States armed forces and not all the awesome ideas for things scouts should be doing. It's almost like you're not paying attention at all to the conversation.[/quote] No it's the fact that having a bombardment from above would be op to vehicles and would neutrulize the reason to work for orbs vehicles shouldn't be destroyed to Easley since they cost so much DERP[/quote] Did you not read the thread? I didn't mention bombardments once. Also, vehicles are cheaper than my adv suit, but that's for another thread. We've been discussing cool RL scout activities that should be in game. Well, that and one guy can't leave it alone that I was in the Army. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 216	Posted - 2014.03.02 18:05:00 - [38] - Quote Oxskull Duncarino wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Isn't the OP just another jerrmy 12/ NK Scout alt? If so, I thought he was a 17 yo brat who would be too young for the army. He/she/it has more alts but are always easy to spot due to the bull that they post. Sorry, not NK Scout. Also, I start all of my troll posts with DISCLAIMER THIS IS NOT A TROLL POST just to throw the reader off. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 216	Posted - 2014.03.02 18:55:00 - [39] - Quote Toby Flenderson wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: I was a 19D Cavalry Scout in the US Army. I have seen what real scouts do on a battlefield, and the wanna-be "scouts" in New Eden are no where close. Your mission is to get in a squad and find enemies for your squad. Your squad comes and kills the enemies while you slip away to find more enemies for your squad. It's so simple, yet, pretty much all scouts in this game get it wrong. This is easy to understand because CCP also doesn't understand what a scout's role is. Scouts are not ninjas. They do not carry weapons like Nova Knives. I personally find NK scouts offensive to my former professsion. Scouts are not CQCers. If you are engaging the enemy yourself, it's because you screwed up and they saw you. Scout's main weapons should be their laser designator. Oh, that's right, CCP didn't include that mechanic, which is basically the ONE THING A SCOUT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. Why the F did you even include scouts at all?!? God you guys suck at making video games. Did you get to use cloaking devices? What does it feel like to have a rep tool latched to you? Laser rifles probably hurt more in real life than in Dust. We didn't need cloaking devices, we knew what we were doing, plus the I raqi government would have QQd to the UN that we were OP. I also wouldn't have carried the laser rifle even if we had one. I prefer bang bang to pew pew. On a side note about lasers, have you seen the one the US Navy has on a ship? We are awesome. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 218	Posted - 2014.03.02 19:02:00 - [40] - Quote Righteous Holylight wrote: I doubt anyone is going to care about your history being enlisted in the Armed Services. This is DUST 514.. I don't know abput eceryone else, but I think CCP had made the best free-to-play game that I'd got my hands on. Got so addicted thatend up getting the CE to it.DUST DEV / CCP you guys are doing a wonderful job. And like Tony Gonzales says in his book: ""Never let anyone tell you the odds." Well, good for you. Unfortunately there's only like 2500 people who play DUST and out of that about 300-400 tops who feel the way you do. I'm sure you guys buy enough AUR to fund this game, so there should be no worry about losing support from Sony after this big push they're on right now doesn't pan out after a couple quarters. By the way.......I'm pretty sure that by now no Dev steps foot near my threads, so your big anal smoochie smoochie will go unheard. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.

Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 218	Posted - 2014.03.02 19:03:00 - [41] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: you say the scout role is useless? I can flank I can run faster I can run farther I can hack quicker I can be electronically invisibe I can be visibly invisible (soon) and STILL get 50+ kills the problem isn't that other suits can do it better The problem is you suck with the suit and probably blindly run into enemies :) No, I don't use it at all. Running blindly into enemies is for my heavy suit. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 218	Posted - 2014.03.02 19:05:00 - [42] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: He called us adorable scouts who don't know there roll he wasnt exactly stepping carefully on eggshells to convey his intended message but he diddnt exactly mean any harm by it. from his perspective there are two groups that identify with "scouts" his group RL scouts and game scouts hes simply noticed a huge descrepancy in what the two groups roles are and is expressing his desire that they be brought closer together. in essence he is expressing his dismay that the games dont allow you guys to really get to see the scout how hee sees them. and he wishes that you guys could see how awesome real scouts are. add in his army background and that explains his rather rough way of conveying his message. aka dont let his adversarial way of saying it get in the way of understanding that he really just wants to share his insight into scouts as well as his feelings of how awesome RL scouts were. hes trying to be friends You can see into my brain! You can write my posts from now on. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 220	Posted - 2014.03.02 22:27:00 - [43] - Quote You don't understand what painting targets means. You aim the gun for someone else to shoot. At tanks. Tanks are like ants at a picnic. You are the ultimate AV weapon. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 220	Posted - 2014.03.02 22:39:00 - [44] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: You don't understand what painting targets means. You aim the gun for someone else to shoot. At tanks. Tanks are like ants at a picnic. You are the ultimate AV weapon. LOL shared LOS was removed a long time ago. You need an active scanner. Plus a dropship does the job of scanning very well because they're so mobile. I'm not talking about scanners. At all. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.

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