Look's more like your trying to build the invincable caldari assaut. It's understandable every nerf/buff post is nothing more then the poster looking to gain the advantage in his/her prefrence of play. It's not a bad thing just a natural reaction to self preservation.

like I said at the end, instead of just buffing extenders; add the types that were proposed as a 2nd tier; that'd be equal to your original plates of 50/75/100 (85/115/135), that have the current delay penalty. Then make the current extenders like your ferroscale played w/ a "small buff to be like 30/53/66 (or something like that) w/ no penalty.

Then like plates, you have a high hp source w/ penalties, and a "low"/medium source w/o penalties

If that's so you'd have to add a much heavier shield delay penalty to shield extenders because the current 6% is completely unnoticeable. Yet speed penalties are heavily felt because they are always in effect. Your shields are not constantly in recharge limbo.

Again I'm all for a shield buff because I find it difficult to compete with my anti-shield weapons when competing against these very overpowered combat rifles while I armor tank. (and even with shields the CR is OP don't deny it). The population is too heavily on the armor tank side and 1.8 needs to address this and I think the racial parity will help but even then.

But I still find it weird that you'd think that a regenerating pool of HP should outweigh the pool of a non-regenerating pool of HP (Ferros versus even your proposed changes to light and heavy shields)

repair modules; but you also have repair tools, and repair nano's . So it kinda of evens out in a sense

What about an Ishukone Assault Suit. 477 EHP 203,415 isk which would obviously be more affordable with LP.

Ishukone RR
Ishukone SMG
Complex Shield Extender
Complex Shield Recharger (x2)
Complex Shield Energizer
Complex Cpu Upgrade
Complez Shield Regulator (x2)
Locus Grenade

With maxed skills it has 327 shields, 150 armor, 95.65/s shield recharge rate with 2.76 sec delay, and 5.49 depleted delay. I think that with this suit if you have cover or distance between your target it would be pretty challenging to kill you. I run a basic Gallenete medic with a exile rifle it's very similar in terms of HP/SD but reversed. With 148 Hp for shield and 332 HP for armor I do alright and I only have my dropsuit skills to level 3 for armor and 2 for shields.

Skill wise though I have 20/s shield recharge with a 7 sec delay and 10.3 sec depleted.

Duvolle Assualt Suit 141 shield 411 armor 552 EHP 213,390 isk

Duvolle Tactical AR
Carthum Assault Scrambler Pistol
Complex Light Damage Mod
Complex Shield Recharger
Complex Shield Energizer
Complex Armor Plate
Complex CPU Upgrade
Complex Armor Repair (x2)
Duvolle Quantum Active Scanner

So this suit would have a 59.99/s shield recharge rate, but it still has the 7 sec delay with a 10 sec depleted delay and finally a 12.5 HP armor repair rate.

I think the both suit are even at a distance but with cover you could put some pressure on the Gallente and force him to back up or searching for cover. The Gallente wants his shield back so his armor can repair uninhibited unfortunately for him that's going to take 7 seconds. If you chase him down he has no choice but to abandon his shields and if you get in range because for some odd reason you haven't killed him with a rail rifle you can switch to your Ishukone SMG and annihilate the Gallente. It's not completely in your favor if he's good with the Tac Ar and you have no cover chasing him/her could get you killed.

Replace 2 rechargers with another energuser and a extender...

like I said at the end, instead of just buffing extenders; add the types that were proposed as a 2nd tier; that'd be equal to your original plates of 50/75/100 (85/115/135), that have the current delay penalty. Then make the current extenders like your ferroscale played w/ a "small buff to be like 30/53/66 (or something like that) w/ no penalty.

Then like plates, you have a high hp source w/ penalties, and a "low"/medium source w/o penalties

Shield are just to weak, and the recharge is so slow/not enough to compared with that of armor.

You can leave now.

I was discussing this very topic last night with my CEO. One of the major imbalances we were talking about ( Caldari assault vs Gallente assault) was that he (gallente) could fit his tank properly using advanced plates while i had to use complex extenders.

This creates a large imbalance with the amount of cpu/ pg left over to fit weapons and equipment etc.

yeah comparing shield recharge to armor recharge is dumb. sure armor reps constantly but even on a proto amarr logi you'd have to use all the low slots to get the armor repping the same as an assault (with current skills) and then in 1.8 the most we'll get is 6hps per complex rep mod and them things take a lot of PG/CPU for what they do, plus everyone keeps saying armor is so great but trust me. when you're plated up the speed penalty is nasty, your as slow as a heavy with half the EHP

I think he's saying that if armor has no delay, only a small amount less repair and hugely more HP, there is imbalance, which is true

It's not 'a small amount less repair', though.
With a complex module, taking up a ton of PG/CPU, you get 6.25 HP/s. Even the lower shield regens are 20+ at base, without any modules or skills. That's at the low end.

I think he's saying that if armor has no delay, only a small amount less repair and hugely more HP, there is imbalance, which is true

what i meant was, that even though armor have no innate repair (as of 1.8 believe, except for the built in for the certain plate type), they have other ways/abilities to repair their main hp source, where shield only have the recharge.

Now correct me if im wrong, but more or less, the moment you stop taking damage to your armor; your reppers kick in, correct? If you look at shields, any damage taken to shield during the repair causes the delay and recharge to start all over.

Then take into account repair tools and triage hives; you can have a sustained amount of repairs (w/ a buddy, or even yrself if u have the repping hives). So by adding in exterior forces, your repair rate can exceed that of a shield suit.

Guess forgot this community isn't "able" to read b/t the lines, and infer based on their own knowledge

read my above post

Why shield tank a Minmatar assault against a Gallente assault when you could have a Min Assault with

Six Kin Assault Combat rifle
Six Kin SMG
Complex Precision Enhancer (x3)
Complex Light Damage Mod (x2)
Complex Armor Plate
Complex Reactive Plate
Flux Grenade
Triage Repair tool

570 EHP 187 Shield 383 Armor 28.98 db scan precision 15 meter radius armor rep rate of 3 but with that scan precision you should be able to avoid people.

Thats a TERRIBLE fit...

How so its 570 EHP and it rips armor? You could swap it to 2 complex plates its 653 EHP but no reps you also sacrifice movement speed which would make you less effective in cqc. It also lets you swap a boundless MD and Core Flaylock Pistol no scanner needed Flux and let it rip. I think you should use every slot you possibly can, you can also swap one enhancer for a shield extender 690 Ehp still no reps and you shield delay takes a hit and you have no reps.

Ths modules are ****
Remove rep tool or not
Replace all high slots with extenders and 1 damage mod
Replace reactive plate for a rep, just 2 plates and a rep in your lows...