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Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 77	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:09:00 - [1] - Quote CCP we got the point, The ultra fast impossible to kill scout with creodron shotguns because your game is laggy as **** and impossible to scan or detect in advance is totally anti-fun, has nothing to counter. I am making a prediction, the number of player will drastically drop when the cloaking is introduced and again a FTOM, an invisible player killing people making 50-2 without even any cloaking device is as game breaking as 5 tanks dominating the map with no possibility to get back into the fight. Imagine that game with the cloaking device. There is just too much exploits in this game it also sports bad level design which makes it incredibly frustrating. Either reduce scout speed or fix the lag, the effect right now is the same as a game totally hacked and impossible to play with any hope of balance. Quebec United CFO
Arkenia Wyrnspire Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:11:00 - [2] - Quote Nerf scouts in their current form? Are you high? Or just bad? Really bad? If you can't guess who I am you need to lrn2forum
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 5381	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:13:00 - [3] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: The ultra fast impossible to kill scout with creodron shotguns because your game is laggy as **** and impossible to scan or detect in advance is totally anti-fun, has nothing to counter. So because you can't scan them you want them to be nerfed? "CCP my crutch doesn't work!! Nerf Scouts!!" Fatal Absolution's official bench warmer (scoot over Faquira) and mascot I go negative in PC, yay
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 9928	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:13:00 - [4] - Quote On further reflection, I am deeming this a troll post mixed with some whine about the cloak. Scouts are barely faster than some medframes and he wants reduced speed? ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven
Sgt Buttscratch KILL-EM-QUICK 1766	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:14:00 - [5] - Quote sweet tears and we aint even got it yet. PAY ATTENTION, your scanner is not a win button, as much as you would like it to be we can avoid detection from your scanners. Now eyes...something we cannot bypass unless the eyeholder has no situational awareness, you will need to know where you are and where a scout can come from, as you stand their in your crutch suits with your crutch RR/CR trying to crutch scan the entire map in a single 360 spin. moaning about players going 50/2 when players already go 50/2. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Scheneighnay McBob Learning Coalition College 4125	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:19:00 - [6] - Quote I feel accomplished. I am your scan error.
noobsniper the 2nd POISION ROSES Galactic Skyfleet Empire 174	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:21:00 - [7] - Quote Bad player is bad #getgoodscrub just call me scumbag noob MAG vet raven ftw
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 77	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:34:00 - [8] - Quote Dude how the heck having 25 million SP and playing Dust for the last 8 months makes me a bad player ? I play scout, I like the speed, I also die what I am saying is that Speed + Lag makes it impossible to shoot somebody down. I think you defend the scout because you make good amount of kills with them and you just want them to be kept OP. Its like trying to defend the Rail Rifle wich is the flavor of the moment.... In any cases have you seen the number of scouts now, dont tell me its not another Flavor of the moment which is like all the rest unbalanced... I know my rant will fall into the cracks anyway because most of you scrubs just want to find the next exploit and kill new players to feel good about yourselves. A review of this game today will find the same failings as it had before, total pit full of people that would sell their mother to have a wall hack. God I miss Quake3 and punk buster.... Quebec United CFO
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3214	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:37:00 - [9] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Dude how the heck having 25 million SP and playing Dust for the last 8 months makes me a bad player? How does it make you a good player? No.
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 77	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:39:00 - [10] - Quote Dude I was playing Doom when most of you where in your mothers belly, I know an exploit when I see one... Quebec United CFO

DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4397	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:39:00 - [11] - Quote No, My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 9945	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:43:00 - [12] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Dude how the heck having 25 million SP and playing Dust for the last 8 months makes me a bad player ? In what way does this mean that you are not a bad player? Quote: I play scout, I like the speed, I also die what I am saying is that Speed + Lag makes it impossible to shoot somebody down. I think you defend the scout because you make good amount of kills with them and you just want them to be kept OP. Its like trying to defend the Rail Rifle wich is the flavor of the moment.... In any cases have you seen the number of scouts now, dont tell me its not another Flavor of the moment which is like all the rest unbalanced... I know my rant will fall into the cracks anyway because most of you scrubs just want to find the next exploit and kill new players to feel good about yourselves. A review of this game today will find the same failings as it had before, total pit full of people that would sell their mother to have a wall hack. God I miss Quake3 and punk buster.... Scouts are hardly 'impossible' to kill. Let me give you a tip: actually try shooting at them. They're really not OP. It's hilarious that you think they are. What makes them better? It's not the speed - they're barely faster than medium frames. Have I seen the number of scouts now? Yes. It's not many. Scouts FotM? This word 'FotM' you are using, I do not think you know what it means. But go ahead, keep whining about the scouts (which are presently hilariously underpowered). You might well have a point with the cloak, but bitching about them now only shows that you're an idiot. ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 77	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:43:00 - [13] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: No, Like thats an argument lol Quebec United CFO
mollerz Minja Scouts 2350	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:45:00 - [14] - Quote look dude.. no one is going to sympathize with ya. Scouts have had it the worse out of all suits on a downward slope since 1.0. 1.8 is going to just make things worse for you because we'll finally get fixed. If anything, speed tanking is severely gimped as it is. However, I do think you have a point with lag. Lag is ridiculous right now. But that hurts all of us despite your role. GL! You are going to need it. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 903	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:46:00 - [15] - Quote lawls. Some ppl got nothing better to do than to make alts and post ludicrous stuff all day long. PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8. That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 77	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:47:00 - [16] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Dude how the heck having 25 million SP and playing Dust for the last 8 months makes me a bad player ? In what way does this mean that you are not a bad player? Quote: I play scout, I like the speed, I also die what I am saying is that Speed + Lag makes it impossible to shoot somebody down. I think you defend the scout because you make good amount of kills with them and you just want them to be kept OP. Its like trying to defend the Rail Rifle wich is the flavor of the moment.... In any cases have you seen the number of scouts now, dont tell me its not another Flavor of the moment which is like all the rest unbalanced... I know my rant will fall into the cracks anyway because most of you scrubs just want to find the next exploit and kill new players to feel good about yourselves. A review of this game today will find the same failings as it had before, total pit full of people that would sell their mother to have a wall hack. God I miss Quake3 and punk buster.... Scouts are hardly 'impossible' to kill. Let me give you a tip: actually try shooting at them. They're really not OP. It's hilarious that you think they are. What makes them better? It's not the speed - they're barely faster than medium frames. Have I seen the number of scouts now? Yes. It's not many. Scouts FotM? This word 'FotM' you are using, I do not think you know what it means. But go ahead, keep whining about the scouts (which are presently hilariously underpowered). You might well have a point with the cloak, but bitching about them now only shows that you're an idiot. Thats it we get to the low point of being labelled Idiot, again those arguments are so logical. Quebec United CFO
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 77	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:50:00 - [17] - Quote mollerz wrote: look dude.. no one is going to sympathize with ya. Scouts have had it the worse out of all suits on a downward slope since 1.0. 1.8 is going to just make things worse for you because we'll finally get fixed. If anything, speed tanking is severely gimped as it is. However, I do think you have a point with lag. Lag is ridiculous right now. But that hurts all of us despite your role. GL! You are going to need it. Thanks for understanding my argument was that something is mostly wrong when both are in effect. Speed is good for getting to objective. And BTW the heavy was also **** for a long time in this game having 2 guns and one suit... Quebec United CFO
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 837	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:50:00 - [18] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Dude how the heck having 25 million SP and playing Dust for the last 8 months makes me a bad player ? I play scout, I like the speed, I also die what I am saying is that Speed + Lag makes it impossible to shoot somebody down. I think you defend the scout because you make good amount of kills with them and you just want them to be kept OP. Its like trying to defend the Rail Rifle wich is the flavor of the moment.... In any cases have you seen the number of scouts now, dont tell me its not another Flavor of the moment which is like all the rest unbalanced... I know my rant will fall into the cracks anyway because most of you scrubs just want to find the next exploit and kill new players to feel good about yourselves. A review of this game today will find the same failings as it had before, total pit full of people that would sell their mother to have a wall hack. God I miss Quake3 and punk buster.... you have to be kidding meGÇªGÇª.do the words "Aim Assist" have any meaning to you? Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1304	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:51:00 - [19] - Quote It will be a problem if everybody spams it. I predict it will be another FOTM problem. That's why I posted THIS Better cover your butts now, lest you fall into the FOTM pit. Unlike the original scout registry, my thread was meant to make a specific point about an almost certain problem that is about to hit big time. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
Supernus Gigas Star Giants 322	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:51:00 - [20] - Quote You really shouldn't rely on a scanner too much. Makes you think about your surroundings less. I love how you're whining about not being able to scan scouts. I can't imagine how upset you'd get if you ran into me. I run an ADV Sentinel with two Complex Profile Dampeners. Unless you have a Proto Scanner, I'm a ***** ghost, with a Heavy Machine Gun. FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!**

Glitch116 On The Brink CRONOS. 83	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:53:00 - [21] - Quote pretty sure i am posting in a troll thread but by god i have now seen it all a post saying Derpships are OP and now a nerf scout thread what will people think of next NERF THE LAZER AND FLAYLOCK AGAIN!! I AM THE KING OF THE BLASTER!!! deal with it
calvin b Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 1542	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:53:00 - [22] - Quote I use a Dren SG when I am using my scout and it has nothing to do with lag. It is poor situational awareness. My hats are off to the scout that gets me when I turn the corner. I do not get mad I say nice move and move on. The only problem I have when I am playing my scout build is when I am running so fast I run into someone and bounce off them and the SG fails to work and I die A heavy before 1.8
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 77	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:54:00 - [23] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Dude how the heck having 25 million SP and playing Dust for the last 8 months makes me a bad player ? I play scout, I like the speed, I also die what I am saying is that Speed + Lag makes it impossible to shoot somebody down. I think you defend the scout because you make good amount of kills with them and you just want them to be kept OP. Its like trying to defend the Rail Rifle wich is the flavor of the moment.... In any cases have you seen the number of scouts now, dont tell me its not another Flavor of the moment which is like all the rest unbalanced... I know my rant will fall into the cracks anyway because most of you scrubs just want to find the next exploit and kill new players to feel good about yourselves. A review of this game today will find the same failings as it had before, total pit full of people that would sell their mother to have a wall hack. God I miss Quake3 and punk buster.... you have to be kidding meGÇªGÇª.do the words "Aim Assist" have any meaning to you? The aim assist is not a magical magnet... lag renders it useless... Quebec United CFO
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 837	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:56:00 - [24] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Dude how the heck having 25 million SP and playing Dust for the last 8 months makes me a bad player ? I play scout, I like the speed, I also die what I am saying is that Speed + Lag makes it impossible to shoot somebody down. I think you defend the scout because you make good amount of kills with them and you just want them to be kept OP. Its like trying to defend the Rail Rifle wich is the flavor of the moment.... In any cases have you seen the number of scouts now, dont tell me its not another Flavor of the moment which is like all the rest unbalanced... I know my rant will fall into the cracks anyway because most of you scrubs just want to find the next exploit and kill new players to feel good about yourselves. A review of this game today will find the same failings as it had before, total pit full of people that would sell their mother to have a wall hack. God I miss Quake3 and punk buster.... you have to be kidding meGÇªGÇª.do the words "Aim Assist" have any meaning to you? The aim assist is not a magical magnet... lag renders it useless... GÇªGÇªGÇªGÇªi don't know what to say. this guy wrote: The aim assist is not a magical magnet this thread has now been terminated due to excessive trolling Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 78	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:59:00 - [25] - Quote One of the reason there is more scout, is because people are preparing for the next flavor of the moment, the cloaking and that people see that the logi slayer will be nerfed. So next patch will be the scout patch, will be incredibly broken yet again and oh well its the rince and repeat cycle... Quebec United CFO
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 78	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:02:00 - [26] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Dude how the heck having 25 million SP and playing Dust for the last 8 months makes me a bad player ? I play scout, I like the speed, I also die what I am saying is that Speed + Lag makes it impossible to shoot somebody down. I think you defend the scout because you make good amount of kills with them and you just want them to be kept OP. Its like trying to defend the Rail Rifle wich is the flavor of the moment.... In any cases have you seen the number of scouts now, dont tell me its not another Flavor of the moment which is like all the rest unbalanced... I know my rant will fall into the cracks anyway because most of you scrubs just want to find the next exploit and kill new players to feel good about yourselves. A review of this game today will find the same failings as it had before, total pit full of people that would sell their mother to have a wall hack. God I miss Quake3 and punk buster.... you have to be kidding meGÇªGÇª.do the words "Aim Assist" have any meaning to you? The aim assist is not a magical magnet... lag renders it useless... GÇªGÇªGÇªGÇªi don't know what to say. this guy wrote: The aim assist is not a magical magnet this thread has now been terminated due to excessive trolling This community should win an award for being the best game community out there, seriously your now my hero, I will now take you as my example when discussing with other players. Wow, what an amazing folk you are, why did'nt I was a bit like you before now ! I was living my life so wrong ! Quebec United CFO
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3280	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:06:00 - [27] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: CCP we got the point, The ultra fast impossible to kill scout with creodron shotguns because your game is laggy as **** and impossible to scan or detect in advance is totally anti-fun, has nothing to counter. I am making a prediction, the number of player will drastically drop when the cloaking is introduced and again a FTOM, an invisible player killing people making 50-2 without even any cloaking device is as game breaking as 5 tanks dominating the map with no possibility to get back into the fight. Imagine that game with the cloaking device. There is just too much exploits in this game it also sports bad level design which makes it incredibly frustrating. Either reduce scout speed or fix the lag, the effect right now is the same as a game totally hacked and impossible to play with any hope of balance. Can't balance on lag I can feel where you come from, speed + lag is incredibly difficult to deal with, but you can not balance on lag. Bojo - Adding chili powder to your experience since early times
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 9950	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:06:00 - [28] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Dude how the heck having 25 million SP and playing Dust for the last 8 months makes me a bad player ? In what way does this mean that you are not a bad player? Quote: I play scout, I like the speed, I also die what I am saying is that Speed + Lag makes it impossible to shoot somebody down. I think you defend the scout because you make good amount of kills with them and you just want them to be kept OP. Its like trying to defend the Rail Rifle wich is the flavor of the moment.... In any cases have you seen the number of scouts now, dont tell me its not another Flavor of the moment which is like all the rest unbalanced... I know my rant will fall into the cracks anyway because most of you scrubs just want to find the next exploit and kill new players to feel good about yourselves. A review of this game today will find the same failings as it had before, total pit full of people that would sell their mother to have a wall hack. God I miss Quake3 and punk buster.... Scouts are hardly 'impossible' to kill. Let me give you a tip: actually try shooting at them. They're really not OP. It's hilarious that you think they are. What makes them better? It's not the speed - they're barely faster than medium frames. Have I seen the number of scouts now? Yes. It's not many. Scouts FotM? This word 'FotM' you are using, I do not think you know what it means. But go ahead, keep whining about the scouts (which are presently hilariously underpowered). You might well have a point with the cloak, but bitching about them now only shows that you're an idiot. Thats it we get to the low point of being labelled Idiot, again those arguments are so logical. Yes. You have gotten to that point because your arguments are terrible. Now, as you seem to be so good at arguing, would you care to address my points or explain why they are illogical? ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 78	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:10:00 - [29] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: CCP we got the point, The ultra fast impossible to kill scout with creodron shotguns because your game is laggy as **** and impossible to scan or detect in advance is totally anti-fun, has nothing to counter. I am making a prediction, the number of player will drastically drop when the cloaking is introduced and again a FTOM, an invisible player killing people making 50-2 without even any cloaking device is as game breaking as 5 tanks dominating the map with no possibility to get back into the fight. Imagine that game with the cloaking device. There is just too much exploits in this game it also sports bad level design which makes it incredibly frustrating. Either reduce scout speed or fix the lag, the effect right now is the same as a game totally hacked and impossible to play with any hope of balance. Can't balance on lag I can feel where you come from, speed + lag is incredibly difficult to deal with, but you can not balance on lag. They surely have lots of bugs in the game, just the fact that its probably the only game on PS3 that freezes the console is significant, lag comes from somewhere and its not my net connection. Thanks for understanding the above argument, the rest yes was a rant... Quebec United CFO
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 840	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:13:00 - [30] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: This community should win an award for being the best game community out there, seriously your now my hero, I will now take you as my example when discussing with other players. Wow, what an amazing folk you are, why did'nt I was a bit like you before now ! I was living my life so wrong ! Thanks! I always appreciate great complements from people like you! In all honesty, I'm sorry if i came over like a bit of an *******, but the point is is that speed tanking is rendered so useless in the current iteration of this game that it is laughable, at best, to complain about it. Lag, on the other hand, is a very serious issue, and i agree that it needs to be fixed Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!

J0LLY R0G3R 0uter.Heaven 528	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:16:00 - [31] - Quote People can call me whatever they wish XD long as they send good mail. XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 156	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:28:00 - [32] - Quote I honestly can't wait for Cloak fields. We will never see a single enemy again. Someone will figure out how to exploit it, like everything else, the exploit won't be fixed, and DUST will be dead. You know a video game company is bad when they release a dogpile like DUST. You know it's even worse when they just keep releasing broken crap, never fix the old stuff, and watch as the playerbase slowly fades away. You know that it's the worst dev team ever when they don't even attempt to talk to the players, and even take part in stomping on newbies (CCP Logibro, that's aimed directly at you). There's talk on PSN that if the current devs don't start making deadlines, that the whole group will be sacked all over again. If this happens, do you think they'll keep going or just pull the plug? I think they'll pull the plug. A venture like this has to make money. It wasn't, that's why the first team got fired. It still isn't. There's really no way to 'fix' this game. The skill system belongs in a single player game, not a MMO. It encourages disparity between players that cannot be overcome. There is just no way to go back and change that much code. Also, the matchmaking system purposely puts pay players against non-pay players. The devs recognize the pay players want one-sided stomp fests, and since they pay the dev's salaries, they get what they want. If they didn't, nobody would be playing. Unfortunately, the pay players are becoming bored with this arrangement and are buying less AUR items. Once a 30mil SP vet stops buying his 'Dren' this or that because he keeps losing it to a 2mil SP scrub with a cloak, we will all log on one day to 404: File Not Found DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 842	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:31:00 - [33] - Quote Alternate Insano wrote: I honestly can't wait for Cloak fields. We will never see a single enemy again. Someone will figure out how to exploit it, like everything else, the exploit won't be fixed, and DUST will be dead. You know a video game company is bad when they release a dogpile like DUST. You know it's even worse when they just keep releasing broken crap, never fix the old stuff, and watch as the playerbase slowly fades away. You know that it's the worst dev team ever when they don't even attempt to talk to the players, and even take part in stomping on newbies (CCP Logibro, that's aimed directly at you). There's talk on PSN that if the current devs don't start making deadlines, that the whole group will be sacked all over again. If this happens, do you think they'll keep going or just pull the plug? I think they'll pull the plug. A venture like this has to make money. It wasn't, that's why the first team got fired. It still isn't. There's really no way to 'fix' this game. The skill system belongs in a single player game, not a MMO. It encourages disparity between players that cannot be overcome. There is just no way to go back and change that much code. Also, the matchmaking system purposely puts pay players against non-pay players. The devs recognize the pay players want one-sided stomp fests, and since they pay the dev's salaries, they get what they want. If they didn't, nobody would be playing. Unfortunately, the pay players are becoming bored with this arrangement and are buying less AUR items. Once a 30mil SP vet stops buying his 'Dren' this or that because he keeps losing it to a 2mil SP scrub with a cloak, we will all log on one day to 404: File Not Found If you really believe this, then why do you a) play the game b) post on the forums actually, the answer to b is pretty easy-youre a troll Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Django Quik Dust2Dust. 2245	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:31:00 - [34] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: They surely have lots of bugs in the game, just the fact that its probably the only game on PS3 that freezes the console is significant, lag comes from somewhere and its not my net connection. Seriously? Have you never heard of Skyrim? Oblivion? Fallout 3 or New Vegas? Just to name a few of the more serious cases. Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot Scout community is the nuts
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 83	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:38:00 - [35] - Quote You nailed it right Alternate Insano, I do hope they dont pull the plug on it, but my guess is that they are treating this as an experiment that is going to get upgraded to PS4 eventually. Right now they had so much bad press I am sure they are still amazed people play the game at all. I would bet that there is still a significant amount of people that buy aurum stuff, but I agree that I do not buy anything anymore because there used to be incencitive with blue prints to save time. Now its really just mechanics to highly frustrate players. Maybe this works alot on asian markets, but on the long run will not please Western players that are used to a model where things are balanced and then when everything is on the same level, we can talk about skill. Quebec United CFO
Scout Registry Nos Nothi 1321	Posted - 2014.02.24 01:09:00 - [36] - Quote It's not just you. Lightning xVx whips everyone's arse.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1280	Posted - 2014.02.24 01:16:00 - [37] - Quote I lol'd. Thanks, guys. Sometimes, these forums are WAY better than the game.
Powerh8er DIOS EX. General Tso's Alliance 386	Posted - 2014.02.24 01:22:00 - [38] - Quote Triggerhappy HMG user with flux nades > Cloaked SG scout Pay to win bitch!
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 515	Posted - 2014.02.24 01:25:00 - [39] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: The ultra fast impossible to kill scout with creodron shotguns because your game is laggy as ** and impossible to scan or detect in advance is totally anti-fun, has nothing to counter. So because you can't scan them you want them to be nerfed? "CCP my crutch doesn't work!! Nerf Scouts!!" On my scout I enjoy my cr and smg, I love the "scan attempt prevented" message 2 exile assault rifles, Skinweave cal. frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame Caldari Master Race** One day shields, soon.
Bayeth Mal OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 128	Posted - 2014.02.24 01:34:00 - [40] - Quote Uh... I've had my scout out run by Minnie assaults... The buff to scouts will actually make them better in their role than a dampened minnie assault. It's too bad high speeds can mess with the game otherwise we should add about 1m/s to scout base movement. Does OP realise there are dampening modules? You realise everyone can use them right? There's more options than Plates+Damage mods.

I do SUCK RETR0 PR0 GAMERS INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 43	Posted - 2014.02.24 01:48:00 - [41] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: CCP we got the point, The ultra fast impossible to kill scout with creodron shotguns because your game is laggy as **** and impossible to scan or detect in advance is totally anti-fun, has nothing to counter. I am making a prediction, the number of player will drastically drop when the cloaking is introduced and again a FTOM, an invisible player killing people making 50-2 without even any cloaking device is as game breaking as 5 tanks dominating the map with no possibility to get back into the fight. Imagine that game with the cloaking device. There is just too much exploits in this game it also sports bad level design which makes it incredibly frustrating. Either reduce scout speed or fix the lag, the effect right now is the same as a game totally hacked and impossible to play with any hope of balance. Nah Man U just freakin SUCK SCOUTS FOREVER Scouts May we forever live in infamy And find our way into the darkness no matter how difficult the road -Matticus monk
Rusty Shallows 1015	Posted - 2014.02.24 02:45:00 - [42] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: snip moaning about players going 50/2 when players already go 50/2. Story of this game. And why not? Since closed beta we've had people ***** about dying to weapons they don't use but still get better KDR with their own. It's a common Double Standard here for people to use the best weapon(s) in the game then complain when inferior niche one's can kill them. What really hurts the game is how Political Nerfing beats out Rational/Academic Discourse all the time. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
DTOracle BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 225	Posted - 2014.02.24 02:45:00 - [43] - Quote LOL, if you honestly believe what you posted OP, then just quit now. Because you ain't seen nothin yet. 1.8 will only make it worst for you, cloak or no cloak. After a year of using the weakest suits in this game, we have become very good at what we do. 1.8 is simply giving the none masochist's a reason to wear the suit. For those of us that have endured & conquered this role, it will be beatiful. In a blood soaked, plasma burned sort of way BTW, simply wearing a scout suit will make you a liability. It's knowing how to use it that makes you dangerous.
Ripcord19981 KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Legacy Rising 464	Posted - 2014.02.24 02:54:00 - [44] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Dude how the heck having 25 million SP and playing Dust for the last 8 months makes me a bad player ? I play scout, I like the speed, I also die what I am saying is that Speed + Lag makes it impossible to shoot somebody down. I think you defend the scout because you make good amount of kills with them and you just want them to be kept OP. Its like trying to defend the Rail Rifle wich is the flavor of the moment.... In any cases have you seen the number of scouts now, dont tell me its not another Flavor of the moment which is like all the rest unbalanced... I know my rant will fall into the cracks anyway because most of you scrubs just want to find the next exploit and kill new players to feel good about yourselves. A review of this game today will find the same failings as it had before, total pit full of people that would sell their mother to have a wall hack. God I miss Quake3 and punk buster.... i know you are worried about the cloak due to CCP's track record of introducing new things (lol), but they are not at all OP atm. Also, a lot of people are scouts because most vets are near 15 mil or above and some of us want to test new suits, since I don't like amarr, i looked at the minmatar scout. I picked it for fun not to use a OP(lol) suit. I can only please one person per day. Today is not ur day, tomorrow doesn't look too bright either. Turkey sammich>taco
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Reapers' Assailant 839	Posted - 2014.02.24 03:04:00 - [45] - Quote Well, this thread is hilarious. Contin- wait! grabs Cheetos and MD Continue. Psycho Scout The more I see the less I like, is it over yet? DONT. TOUCH. ME.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 888	Posted - 2014.02.24 03:08:00 - [46] - Quote @ the OP: Next time your playing, let me know, ill show you a few ninja tricks that us scouts like to use to make us seem invisible or impossible to hit. Were not invisible or untouchable- far from it. Some of us just know how to use scans, cover, sprinting and jumping to make ourselves invisible to the naked eye, and untouchable by the unskilled rifle user Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 593	Posted - 2014.02.24 03:12:00 - [47] - Quote Reposted from the scouts thread: Through taking part in the heavies event I'm starting to understand why there's this misconception on the relative OPness of scouts. Had a match where I kept running up against a shotgun scout who was quite good. I think he got me three times out of five while I was running a 1200 EHP heavy, and two of those were from full health. He was able to get up close as soon as my back was turned from quite a distance, even though I was constantly scanning, and by the time I'd turned around to respond to the blasts to the back of the head I'd already be into armor. Added to that, once I could see him, he was so close that he would effectively be standing inside my arc of movement and maintaining a track was difficult. I can see how this could appear to be lag/rendering issue to someone, even though the reality was just exploiting the limited field of view and his speed and willingness to get up close an personal The funny thing is, as a strat, this would be just as effective with a medium suit if they were willing to run up and stand next to a heavy/medium to get the kill. Most scouts use binary fits, where you either very rapidly overwhelm the opposition, or very rapidly die. People only remember the rapid overwhelming bit because they think it shouldn't be possible from a suit that falls apart if you frown at it, and not how easy it is for them to kill a scout if they catch them out. Knowledge is power
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 515	Posted - 2014.02.24 03:12:00 - [48] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: @ the OP: Next time your playing, let me know, ill show you a few ninja tricks that us scouts like to use to make us seem invisible or impossible to hit. Were not invisible or untouchable- far from it. Some of us just know how to use scans, cover, sprinting and jumping to make ourselves invisible to the naked eye, and untouchable by the unskilled rifle user I kill protos in my 175 shield hp min scout with a std combat rifle Smg doeant have the range 2 exile assault rifles, Skinweave cal. frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame Caldari Master Race One day shields, soon.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 891	Posted - 2014.02.24 03:13:00 - [49] - Quote Brokerib wrote: Reposted from the scouts thread: Through taking part in the heavies event I'm starting to understand why there's this misconception on the relative OPness of scouts. Had a match where I kept running up against a shotgun scout who was quite good. I think he got me three times out of five while I was running a 1200 EHP heavy, and two of those were from full health. He was able to get up close as soon as my back was turned from quite a distance, even though I was constantly scanning, and by the time I'd turned around to respond to the blasts to the back of the head I'd already be into armor. Added to that, once I could see him, he was so close that he would effectively be standing inside my arc of movement and maintaining a track was difficult. I can see how this could appear to be lag/rendering issue to someone, even though the reality was just exploiting the limited field of view and his speed and willingness to get up close an personal The funny thing is, as a strat, this would be just as effective with a medium suit if they were willing to run up and stand next to a heavy/medium to get the kill. Most scouts use binary fits, where you either very rapidly overwhelm the opposition, or very rapidly die. People only remember the rapid overwhelming bit because they think it shouldn't be possible from a suit that falls apart if you frown at it, and not how easy it is for them to kill a scout if they catch them out. ill give you another like here as well Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 891	Posted - 2014.02.24 03:14:00 - [50] - Quote NK Scout wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: @ the OP: Next time your playing, let me know, ill show you a few ninja tricks that us scouts like to use to make us seem invisible or impossible to hit. Were not invisible or untouchable- far from it. Some of us just know how to use scans, cover, sprinting and jumping to make ourselves invisible to the naked eye, and untouchable by the unskilled rifle user I kill protos in my 175 shield hp min scout with a std combat rifle Smg doeant have the range its better to kill protos with a shotgun- the jump for headshot thing works wonders on everything short of armor tanked gallogis Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!

Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2930	Posted - 2014.02.24 03:17:00 - [51] - Quote Somebody must have run into Fusion today ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 892	Posted - 2014.02.24 03:19:00 - [52] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Somebody must have run into Fusion today that guys insaneGÇª..iv only ever killed him 3 times and i died to him like 6 that same match Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Llast 326 An Arkhos 2041	Posted - 2014.02.24 03:22:00 - [53] - Quote Just going to leave this here, as an example of how unaware people can be. Worth noting that J0LLY is one of the better scouts I have had the privilege of being up against. KRRROOOOOOM
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 564	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:12:00 - [54] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: CCP we got the point, The ultra fast impossible to kill scout with creodron shotguns because your game is laggy as ** and impossible to scan or detect in advance is totally anti-fun, has nothing to counter. I am making a prediction, the number of player will drastically drop when the cloaking is introduced and again a FTOM, an invisible player killing people making 50-2 without even any cloaking device is as game breaking as 5 tanks dominating the map with no possibility to get back into the fight. Imagine that game with the cloaking device. There is just too much exploits in this game it also sports bad level design which makes it incredibly frustrating. Either reduce scout speed or fix the lag, the effect right now is the same as a game totally hacked and impossible to play with any hope of balance. Try running a shotgun on these horribly open maps with everyone running combat rifles and rail rifles that will murder you as fast as they spot you. Try fitting that shotgun and the kin cats on that horrible suit CPU and PG and watch people take a step back while they gun you down. A scout shotgun fit is one of the hardest set ups to run currently in my opinion. I will die more and kill less in my scout suit then my assault suit most battles, but the scout suit is just fun. I applaud someone who shotguns me because I understand the skill required. To complain of the scout shotgun is idiotic. Scouts in 1.8 will be balanced, now the cloak on the other hand may be OP but that's a separate issue. The mic bubble bug...** I yield, CCP will be fixing it SOON. Current ETA 1 year since bug
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Reapers' Assailant 843	Posted - 2014.02.24 05:58:00 - [55] - Quote Shotgun scouts are the best. I wish I was half as good as my fellow scouts. Psycho Scout The more I see the less I like, is it over yet? DONT. TOUCH. ME.
Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 157	Posted - 2014.02.24 06:16:00 - [56] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: CCP we got the point, The ultra fast impossible to kill scout with creodron shotguns because your game is laggy as **** and impossible to scan or detect in advance is totally anti-fun, has nothing to counter. I am making a prediction, the number of player will drastically drop when the cloaking is introduced and again a FTOM, an invisible player killing people making 50-2 without even any cloaking device is as game breaking as 5 tanks dominating the map with no possibility to get back into the fight. Imagine that game with the cloaking device. There is just too much exploits in this game it also sports bad level design which makes it incredibly frustrating. Either reduce scout speed or fix the lag, the effect right now is the same as a game totally hacked and impossible to play with any hope of balance. some1 is butthurt Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for, welcome to New Eden -ill b there SoonGäó KAMEHAMEHA TANK KILLA
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 517	Posted - 2014.02.24 06:18:00 - [57] - Quote Turtle Hermit Roshi wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: CCP we got the point, The ultra fast impossible to kill scout with creodron shotguns because your game is laggy as ** and impossible to scan or detect in advance is totally anti-fun, has nothing to counter. I am making a prediction, the number of player will drastically drop when the cloaking is introduced and again a FTOM, an invisible player killing people making 50-2 without even any cloaking device is as game breaking as 5 tanks dominating the map with no possibility to get back into the fight. Imagine that game with the cloaking device. There is just too much exploits in this game it also sports bad level design which makes it incredibly frustrating. Either reduce scout speed or fix the lag, the effect right now is the same as a game totally hacked and impossible to play with any hope of balance. some1 is butthurt yep, definitely needs this 2 exile assault rifles, Skinweave cal. frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame Caldari Master Race** One day shields, soon.
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 69	Posted - 2014.02.24 06:19:00 - [58] - Quote Can't hit a scout because he is to fast? Try shooting the ground. It doesn't move. Use a Mass Driver, and splash him to death. They don't have that much health Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
ELITE INQUISITOR Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 66	Posted - 2014.02.24 06:50:00 - [59] - Quote If he thinks scouts are op wait till the 1.8 heavies. They are gonna be a problem. If you accept your limitations you go beyond them EB Pub. <=====Eternal Beings public chat channel
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 87	Posted - 2014.03.02 06:32:00 - [60] - Quote CCP I totally retract all That I said of the above, DO NOT TOUCH THE SCOUT, I have been using my Dren shotgun with no proficiency at all and using a level 3 scout galante and been doing games where I end up killing 3x as much around 15 while not dying a lot, it is very pleasant to the point of extasy. Please do not listen to myself being an idiot here nothing to see here carry on.... Seriously I have been using remote explosive level 1 and a shotgun and I am having a real blast ! Fight fire with fire ! Quebec United CFO

LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1558	Posted - 2014.03.02 06:51:00 - [61] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: CCP I totally retract all That I said of the above, DO NOT TOUCH THE SCOUT, I have been using my Dren shotgun with no proficiency at all and using a level 3 scout galante and been doing games where I end up killing 3x as much around 15 while not dying a lot, it is very pleasant to the point of extasy. Please do not listen to myself being an idiot here nothing to see here carry on.... Seriously I have been using remote explosive level 1 and a shotgun and I am having a real blast ! Fight fire with fire ! You should have quit at your first post. I would have given you many likes for decent trolling, but now... no. Just, no.
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 767	Posted - 2014.03.02 07:37:00 - [62] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: The ultra fast impossible to kill scout with creodron shotguns because your game is laggy as **** and impossible to scan or detect in advance is totally anti-fun, has nothing to counter. So because you can't scan them you want them to be nerfed? "CCP my crutch doesn't work!! Nerf Scouts!!" What crutch? He can't even blame getting ninja stomped on not having the right equipment. PS...OP you might actually try putting some points in passive scan range and accuracy. Maybe even active scanners. Or do something really crazy like have a wingman. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero
Baltazar Pontain Phantom Universe Task Force Die Fremdenlegion 90	Posted - 2014.03.02 07:41:00 - [63] - Quote Hehe wait until cloacking comes for vehicles. INVISIBLE TANKS!!!! ...Is here a barrier? I cannot move further ... oh oh...
Phazoid The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 252	Posted - 2014.03.02 07:58:00 - [64] - Quote JAJAJAAJAJAJAJAJAJA LOOOOOL, just wait, i will enjoy your tears even more when 1.8 arrives We speak the Dragon's language of flame and rage. Together we shall weave a tale of destruction without equal...
Bormir1r WarRavens League of Infamy 136	Posted - 2014.03.02 08:10:00 - [65] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Dude how the heck having 25 million SP and playing Dust for the last 8 months makes me a bad player ? I play scout, I like the speed, I also die what I am saying is that Speed + Lag makes it impossible to shoot somebody down. I think you defend the scout because you make good amount of kills with them and you just want them to be kept OP. Its like trying to defend the Rail Rifle wich is the flavor of the moment.... In any cases have you seen the number of scouts now, dont tell me its not another Flavor of the moment which is like all the rest unbalanced... I know my rant will fall into the cracks anyway because most of you scrubs just want to find the next exploit and kill new players to feel good about yourselves. A review of this game today will find the same failings as it had before, total pit full of people that would sell their mother to have a wall hack. God I miss Quake3 and punk buster.... You say scouts are OP but we're as thin as paper, 4 shots from a CR will blow us down. It takes a lot of skill (and SP) to become even a decent scout, so don't complain when you don't see scouts coming, because that is our role, that is what we're supposed to do. As for the lag, complain to CCP about it, don't use scouts as scapegoats. "One does not simply" look for a scout, it looks for you.
Bormir1r WarRavens League of Infamy 136	Posted - 2014.03.02 08:14:00 - [66] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: One of the reason there is more scout, is because people are preparing for the next flavor of the moment, the cloaking and that people see that the logi slayer will be nerfed. So next patch will be the scout patch, will be incredibly broken yet again and oh well its the rince and repeat cycle... You're completely forgetting the superpower of heavies, they'll be sooo much tougher than scouts, granted scouts will be close to it, heavies will have so much eHP and resistances in addition to it. They'll literally be infantry style tanks. "One does not simply" look for a scout, it looks for you.
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 351	Posted - 2014.03.02 09:28:00 - [67] - Quote Wow Where is this guy when I play? I want dose easy kills. =ƒÿÅ Here is some intel for you. My scout outfit has just about 200hp if you can't kill me the problem is you. Oh and I am not a top of the line scout I am still learning and I can say this it's HARD War never changes
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 89	Posted - 2014.03.02 09:45:00 - [68] - Quote Bormir1r wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Dude how the heck having 25 million SP and playing Dust for the last 8 months makes me a bad player ? I play scout, I like the speed, I also die what I am saying is that Speed + Lag makes it impossible to shoot somebody down. I think you defend the scout because you make good amount of kills with them and you just want them to be kept OP. Its like trying to defend the Rail Rifle wich is the flavor of the moment.... In any cases have you seen the number of scouts now, dont tell me its not another Flavor of the moment which is like all the rest unbalanced... I know my rant will fall into the cracks anyway because most of you scrubs just want to find the next exploit and kill new players to feel good about yourselves. A review of this game today will find the same failings as it had before, total pit full of people that would sell their mother to have a wall hack. God I miss Quake3 and punk buster.... You say scouts are OP but we're as thin as paper, 4 shots from a CR will blow us down. It takes a lot of skill (and SP) to become even a decent scout, so don't complain when you don't see scouts coming, because that is our role, that is what we're supposed to do. As for the lag, complain to CCP about it, don't use scouts as scapegoats. There is absolutely no skills required to play a scout, i hqve tried for the last 5 days and i am totally raping people in pub with the dren equipment and remotes. Maybe its my rocket jump background from Quake that makes the scout easy to handle. Before you ask, i did not tried any proto scouting, but i kinda fell in love with the speed and the fact nobody has a clue where you are most of the time. Also i did not try scouting in pc where all have proto scanners and such. In any cases I tried the scout and shotty combo 6 months ago and it was not nearly as good as today. If you ever think its hard to be a scout try a heavy dren with a forge gun and a sub lvl 1. Quebec United CFO
Sollemnis Aelinos 89th IMMORTAL ORDER 128	Posted - 2014.03.02 10:04:00 - [69] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Bormir1r wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Dude how the heck having 25 million SP and playing Dust for the last 8 months makes me a bad player ? I play scout, I like the speed, I also die what I am saying is that Speed + Lag makes it impossible to shoot somebody down. I think you defend the scout because you make good amount of kills with them and you just want them to be kept OP. Its like trying to defend the Rail Rifle wich is the flavor of the moment.... In any cases have you seen the number of scouts now, dont tell me its not another Flavor of the moment which is like all the rest unbalanced... I know my rant will fall into the cracks anyway because most of you scrubs just want to find the next exploit and kill new players to feel good about yourselves. A review of this game today will find the same failings as it had before, total pit full of people that would sell their mother to have a wall hack. God I miss Quake3 and punk buster.... You say scouts are OP but we're as thin as paper, 4 shots from a CR will blow us down. It takes a lot of skill (and SP) to become even a decent scout, so don't complain when you don't see scouts coming, because that is our role, that is what we're supposed to do. As for the lag, complain to CCP about it, don't use scouts as scapegoats. There is absolutely no skills required to play a scout, i hqve tried for the last 5 days and i am totally raping people in pub with the dren equipment and remotes. Maybe its my rocket jump background from Quake that makes the scout easy to handle. Before you ask, i did not tried any proto scouting, but i kinda fell in love with the speed and the fact nobody has a clue where you are most of the time. Also i did not try scouting in pc where all have proto scanners and such. In any cases I tried the scout and shotty combo 6 months ago and it was not nearly as good as today. If you ever think its hard to be a scout try a heavy dren with a forge gun and a sub lvl 1. try nova knife Think about the reason you are born look inwars to learn the truth You'er born to develop your soul
Scheherazade VII 295	Posted - 2014.03.02 10:18:00 - [70] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: CCP we got the point, The ultra fast impossible to kill scout with creodron shotguns because your game is laggy as **** and impossible to scan or detect in advance is totally anti-fun, has nothing to counter. I am making a prediction, the number of player will drastically drop when the cloaking is introduced and again a FTOM, an invisible player killing people making 50-2 without even any cloaking device is as game breaking as 5 tanks dominating the map with no possibility to get back into the fight. Imagine that game with the cloaking device. There is just too much exploits in this game it also sports bad level design which makes it incredibly frustrating. Either reduce scout speed or fix the lag, the effect right now is the same as a game totally hacked and impossible to play with any hope of balance. I'm saving up for scouts as we speak, don't worry, your prophecy will yield true!!

Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10251	Posted - 2014.03.02 10:19:00 - [71] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Bormir1r wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Dude how the heck having 25 million SP and playing Dust for the last 8 months makes me a bad player ? I play scout, I like the speed, I also die what I am saying is that Speed + Lag makes it impossible to shoot somebody down. I think you defend the scout because you make good amount of kills with them and you just want them to be kept OP. Its like trying to defend the Rail Rifle wich is the flavor of the moment.... In any cases have you seen the number of scouts now, dont tell me its not another Flavor of the moment which is like all the rest unbalanced... I know my rant will fall into the cracks anyway because most of you scrubs just want to find the next exploit and kill new players to feel good about yourselves. A review of this game today will find the same failings as it had before, total pit full of people that would sell their mother to have a wall hack. God I miss Quake3 and punk buster.... You say scouts are OP but we're as thin as paper, 4 shots from a CR will blow us down. It takes a lot of skill (and SP) to become even a decent scout, so don't complain when you don't see scouts coming, because that is our role, that is what we're supposed to do. As for the lag, complain to CCP about it, don't use scouts as scapegoats. There is absolutely no skills required to play a scout, i hqve tried for the last 5 days and i am totally raping people in pub with the dren equipment and remotes. Maybe its my rocket jump background from Quake that makes the scout easy to handle. Before you ask, i did not tried any proto scouting, but i kinda fell in love with the speed and the fact nobody has a clue where you are most of the time. Also i did not try scouting in pc where all have proto scanners and such. In any cases I tried the scout and shotty combo 6 months ago and it was not nearly as good as today. If you ever think its hard to be a scout try a heavy dren with a forge gun and a sub lvl 1. Is your equivalent of 'raping in pubmatches' finally getting a 1 KDR, or? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
bully mong The Elite Forces Of Feros Academy 1	Posted - 2014.03.02 11:15:00 - [72] - Quote Remember the arbiter and the other special suits you could choose..... I think ccp should bring those back
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2116	Posted - 2014.03.02 11:28:00 - [73] - Quote 2 words buddy Mass Driver! Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 181	Posted - 2014.03.02 11:32:00 - [74] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: The ultra fast impossible to kill scout with creodron shotguns because your game is laggy as **** and impossible to scan or detect in advance is totally anti-fun, has nothing to counter. So because you can't scan them you want them to be nerfed? "CCP my crutch doesn't work!! Nerf Scouts!!" it aint a scout if he cant do a job undetected. hes just....................glass... unless its a scout gk.o with buffer. then thats a problem there. scout=glass cannon gallente scout gk.0 = medium suit in disguise but without being picled up by scanners.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 629	Posted - 2014.03.02 12:06:00 - [75] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Dude how the heck having 25 million SP and playing Dust for the last 8 months makes me a bad player ? I play scout, I like the speed, I also die what I am saying is that Speed + Lag makes it impossible to shoot somebody down. I think you defend the scout because you make good amount of kills with them and you just want them to be kept OP. Its like trying to defend the Rail Rifle wich is the flavor of the moment.... In any cases have you seen the number of scouts now, dont tell me its not another Flavor of the moment which is like all the rest unbalanced... I know my rant will fall into the cracks anyway because most of you scrubs just want to find the next exploit and kill new players to feel good about yourselves. A review of this game today will find the same failings as it had before, total pit full of people that would sell their mother to have a wall hack. God I miss Quake3 and punk buster.... I don't know but my scout dies as soon as someone sees him and starts shooting. I normally do good because I use my stealth to my advantage and outplay those that solely rely on their scanners...And just to be clear the cloak will come in prenerfed. You can#t shoot while cloaked, whenever you switch to a weapon/equipment you will decloak. and to make things even worse decloaking will make a special noise. The only hing cloaks will be good for is crossing roads or further reducing your scanprofil
Lucifalic Nos Nothi 369	Posted - 2014.03.02 12:23:00 - [76] - Quote Just for you Americans and Euros who dont know, Quebec is a French province in Canada. They ******* cry and whine about EVERYTHING in Canada until they get there way. They are basically screwing this country and its too bad the British didnt boot them back to France 150 years ago. But here we are Scouts are OP??? More like you suck. That is all Here since Closed beta. Scout for life.
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 89	Posted - 2014.03.02 17:19:00 - [77] - Quote Lucifalic wrote: Just for you Americans and Euros who dont know, Quebec is a French province in Canada. They ******* cry and whine about EVERYTHING in Canada until they get there way. They are basically screwing this country and its too bad the British didnt boot them back to France 150 years ago. But here we are Scouts are OP??? More like you suck. That is all Oh gosh, ive summoned the troll lord with my non sense, i must repent immediately to unsummon him before He makes other racist comments... Oh and btw We only had our first feminine prime minister attempted murder last year by a racist anglo, was he a creature under your command ? Quebec United CFO
Lucifalic Nos Nothi 377	Posted - 2014.03.03 16:52:00 - [78] - Quote French is not a race moron. Here since Closed beta. Scout for life.
Lucifalic Nos Nothi 377	Posted - 2014.03.03 17:02:00 - [79] - Quote And furthermore how many times has Quebec threatened to leave Canada unless they get what they want? That used to be called being a traitor. My opinion is based on facts of what Quebec does as a province not on a face. Language does not make u a different race. Remember Luka Rocco Magnotta, who murdered Jun Lin. He was French. Was that your minion who masacred a Chinese person because you hate china. Don't make such stupid comments Here since Closed beta. Scout for life.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2706	Posted - 2014.03.03 17:09:00 - [80] - Quote I would rather see them add shrubbery to hide in, but currently hardware restrictions prevent that, so I guess the Cloak it the best they can do. Scouts definitely need something. Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014

Jax Saurian GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 170	Posted - 2014.03.03 17:36:00 - [81] - Quote Bormir1r wrote: You're completely forgetting the superpower of heavies, they'll be sooo much tougher than scouts, granted scouts will be close to it, heavies will have so much eHP and resistances in addition to it. They'll literally be infantry style tanks. Finally someone who can see the same thing as I do if you guys haven't noticed CCP said that they are nerfing damage so TTK will be better but they are also adding damage resistances to heavies unless they remove some health from heavies then heavies will become the next FOTM (enormous eHP, damage resistance, and weapons doing less damage in general) Scouts on the other hand get a cloaking device (which anyone can use) which when you decloak will give of a sound as loud a shotgun blast "and when they catch you, they will kill you... ...but first they must catch you" motto of the scouts Closed Beta Vet
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 731	Posted - 2014.03.03 18:05:00 - [82] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Dude how the heck having 25 million SP and playing Dust for the last 8 months makes me a bad player ? I play scout, I like the speed, I also die what I am saying is that Speed + Lag makes it impossible to shoot somebody down. I think you defend the scout because you make good amount of kills with them and you just want them to be kept OP. Its like trying to defend the Rail Rifle wich is the flavor of the moment.... In any cases have you seen the number of scouts now, dont tell me its not another Flavor of the moment which is like all the rest unbalanced... I know my rant will fall into the cracks anyway because most of you scrubs just want to find the next exploit and kill new players to feel good about yourselves. A review of this game today will find the same failings as it had before, total pit full of people that would sell their mother to have a wall hack. God I miss Quake3 and punk buster.... you have to be kidding meGÇªGÇª.do the words "Aim Assist" have any meaning to you? The aim assist is not a magical magnet... lag renders it useless... This is where I lol'ed. You can literally spray and pray and kill a scout with a shotty...he has no AA and the worst hit detection of all the weapons. Just learn to move. Scouts accel by coming up behind you, learn to watch your flank. All you have to do is see him and you'll win. You are probably being passively scanned, easy to set traps then. Invest in dampeners and that scout will most likely never see you. Or run a Duvolle Focus scanner, that will pick up any scout.
VonSpliff TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 49	Posted - 2014.03.03 18:21:00 - [83] - Quote Wow butt hurt scouts, imagine that. But the thread author has a point. Example, any city map where scouts are most effective can, and do, get bogged down with hives and uplinks creating more lag. When your frame rate goes to sh*t, scouts and abused gal logi are damn near impossible to hit. Then add horrible hit detection and bam Op is born. But this isn't new, Nyian has made a career of creating lag for this reason. I personally have no problem with scouts the way they are. Yes they are hard to hit and yes a shotgun in the pooper is irritating, but not Op. That said, add some more Hp and a way to go stealth, and we are looking at the next FotM. And I know you scouts are foaming at the mouth for it. And I beat you all say little prays at night hoping you get a 3 month patchless phase after it. I agree there needed to be a scout/heavy update long ago, I just don't see cloaks being the best idea. Maybe hit detection on nova knifes would be a better start to get scouts on the right path. But if they start engaging me head to head in a gun battle I just might finally quit this endless potential game. Scouts should be snipers and recon, not really fast assaults. My scout update-higher shield regen and built-in armor rep. Bam a playable scout. "Long live the Empress, unless you have some isk"
Onesimus Tarsus TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 1292	Posted - 2014.03.03 18:48:00 - [84] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Dude how the heck having 25 million SP and playing Dust for the last 8 months makes me a bad player ? In what way does this mean that you are not a bad player? Quote: I play scout, I like the speed, I also die what I am saying is that Speed + Lag makes it impossible to shoot somebody down. I think you defend the scout because you make good amount of kills with them and you just want them to be kept OP. Its like trying to defend the Rail Rifle wich is the flavor of the moment.... In any cases have you seen the number of scouts now, dont tell me its not another Flavor of the moment which is like all the rest unbalanced... I know my rant will fall into the cracks anyway because most of you scrubs just want to find the next exploit and kill new players to feel good about yourselves. A review of this game today will find the same failings as it had before, total pit full of people that would sell their mother to have a wall hack. God I miss Quake3 and punk buster.... Scouts are hardly 'impossible' to kill. Let me give you a tip: actually try shooting at them. They're really not OP. It's hilarious that you think they are. What makes them better? It's not the speed - they're barely faster than medium frames. Have I seen the number of scouts now? Yes. It's not many. Scouts FotM? This word 'FotM' you are using, I do not think you know what it means. But go ahead, keep whining about the scouts (which are presently hilariously underpowered). You might well have a point with the cloak, but bitching about them now only shows that you're an idiot. Thats it we get to the low point of being labelled Idiot, again those arguments are so logical. At what point would you concede your argument is idiotic? Start an alt, use no SP, grab a starter fit and join me in "no SP warriors" chat!
Umma Kabula Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy 5	Posted - 2014.03.03 19:01:00 - [85] - Quote ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah. ah thnx for all the fish! Umma Kabula, Wolfgang Tee Funk, Il Gallo Cedrone. Sono uno e trino.
Umma Kabula Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy 5	Posted - 2014.03.03 19:03:00 - [86] - Quote yeah, like if wearing scout suit saves you from lag thnx for all the fish! Umma Kabula, Wolfgang Tee Funk, Il Gallo Cedrone. Sono uno e trino.
Phazoid The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 255	Posted - 2014.03.03 19:04:00 - [87] - Quote this is what pisses me off, turists, saying something is not op because they played some pub matches and won, YOU ARE NOT A SCOUT, you are a turist, you have no idea what you are talking about, my normal-use scout has less than 300 ehp, if you cant kill a scout that only means the scout had skill, you not so much, and you are probably a scrub AA user, and when saw true skill, you cry op because you suck and also you probably escaped the monkey's habitat from you nearest zoo. We speak the Dragon's language of flame and rage. Together we shall weave a tale of destruction without equal...
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 534	Posted - 2014.03.03 19:09:00 - [88] - Quote While I disagree with what mostly as been said it does bring up one very important issue. CCP needs to stop releasing new content until they get the balance right on what we currently have. Establish the baseline with all suits and current weapons. Devote all of your teams to improving current game play. Then when your core game is finished is when you start introducing new equipment, suits and weapons. Not before when everything is so jumbled you don't know what your baseline is to be. Its going to get boggled down in so much "content" and the illusion of choice when in all actuality there are a few builds that everyone gravitates to at once. Which is not something you can balance off of. Personally if I were office manager I would end all current projects devoted to adding new projects and focus on the core game. Reduce all values to zero and rebuild the game. And keep your player base informed of this process. A lot easier to swallow no monthly update if they are aware there is a complete rebalancing of the game coming. Involve your player base in these discussions as well as they are the ones who ultimately play your game. A company that does not take feed back and act on is one doomed to fail. And listening to a small but very loud part of your customer base does not make for proper balancing either. So I say again if CCP actually reads these posts stop new content. Pull your entire team to rebalancing what is currently in your game. Release weekly updates about the process that you have in place. I don't care that eventually were going to have fighters and a dozen other vehicles and suits if what we currently have is broken. To what baseline is this new content based off of?
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD 534	Posted - 2014.03.03 19:32:00 - [89] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: CCP we got the point, The ultra fast impossible to kill scout with creodron shotguns because your game is laggy as ** and impossible to scan or detect in advance is totally anti-fun, has nothing to counter. Someone got owned by someone much better than them too many times in a match I'm guessing Director of ZionTCD** Amarr Logi \| Amarr Sentinel \| Amarr Scout (SoonGäó) TDBS
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 355	Posted - 2014.03.04 08:59:00 - [90] - Quote Lucifalic wrote: Just for you Americans and Euros who dont know, Quebec is a French province in Canada. They ******* cry and whine about EVERYTHING in Canada until they get there way. They are basically screwing this country and its too bad the British didnt boot them back to France 150 years ago. But here we are Scouts are OP??? More like you suck. That is all Sounds like the french in general =ƒÿé However I love French women it's just the French I despite =ƒÿÿ War never changes

Varoth Drac The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 14	Posted - 2014.03.04 09:13:00 - [91] - Quote Has anyone actually tried using a shotgun during lag? It is impossible. Rapid fire weapons perform much better in laggy conditions.
Chuckles Brown 207	Posted - 2014.03.04 09:43:00 - [92] - Quote A proper fitted Scout in this game is probably the best assault suit in the game because of the latency, low framerate, and terrible hit detection. Speed hacked Scouts are called speed hacked for a reason, its exploiting what's wrong with this game (although, it was way worse back in the day). I think that Scouting is easy once you get the hang of it. The greatest tools in all of FPS are POSITION and STEALTH, the Scout gives you that. You may not always get as many kills as your RR toting teammates, but chances are you'll die less and get the kills that matter. Scouts also have a psychological edge. Once a player knows there's a Scout in the area, they get paranoid. I used to watch red dots through wall... just stand there and watch them... they would be spinning in circles knowing I was near by. Sometimes I would run a scanner and scan them just to freak them out even more. I wouldn't even attack them... just watch. Scouts are amazing, IF you feel like spending the millions upon millins of SP it takes to build them to their potential. When 1.8 drops, it'll be just like 1.7 was for tanks. Take all the skill out of it, make it easy-mode so a grandma can do it... Cloaking is total nonsense and is a crutch for no-skill Scouts and OP for the vet Scouts The official alt of 8213: All other alts are unofficially unofficial Do you pub, brah?
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 333	Posted - 2014.03.04 11:27:00 - [93] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Dude how the heck having 25 million SP and playing Dust for the last 8 months makes me a bad player ? I play scout, I like the speed, I also die what I am saying is that Speed + Lag makes it impossible to shoot somebody down. I think you defend the scout because you make good amount of kills with them and you just want them to be kept OP. Its like trying to defend the Rail Rifle wich is the flavor of the moment.... In any cases have you seen the number of scouts now, dont tell me its not another Flavor of the moment which is like all the rest unbalanced... I know my rant will fall into the cracks anyway because most of you scrubs just want to find the next exploit and kill new players to feel good about yourselves. A review of this game today will find the same failings as it had before, total pit full of people that would sell their mother to have a wall hack. God I miss Quake3 and punk buster.... You " play scout" or YOU ARE A SCOUT? Cuz dude if you were a full time scout, I'd know ya, and if you were a scout you wouldn't post such foolish things. So let's just say your not a scout and you never put one point into percision or damps or range and you use non of those mods, now let's assume you only pay attention to what's in your tunnel vision. So take off a few mods and play smarter by getting you percision and profile under 36 db then add a range mod to get your vision past the first ring, maybe this will help your situational awareness. I ll let it pass that your really scared that scouts are gonna feed you your feet in 1.8 and that you regret only spending sp one damage mods , rr pro 5 an a gal LOGI . But I promise you, the true full time scouts are gonna make everyone know how they have felt dying so fast for a yr, so don't go crying OP when there ment to be the most situationally aware suits in the game. Pro tip: Stay with your scanner friends sounds like you can't watch your own back Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 333	Posted - 2014.03.04 11:35:00 - [94] - Quote Chuckles Brown wrote: A proper fitted Scout in this game is probably the best assault suit in the game because of the latency, low framerate, and terrible hit detection. Speed hacked Scouts are called speed hacked for a reason, its exploiting what's wrong with this game (although, it was way worse back in the day). I think that Scouting is easy once you get the hang of it. The greatest tools in all of FPS are POSITION and STEALTH, the Scout gives you that. You may not always get as many kills as your RR toting teammates, but chances are you'll die less and get the kills that matter. Scouts also have a psychological edge. Once a player knows there's a Scout in the area, they get paranoid. I used to watch red dots through wall... just stand there and watch them... they would be spinning in circles knowing I was near by. Sometimes I would run a scanner and scan them just to freak them out even more. I wouldn't even attack them... just watch. Scouts are amazing, IF you feel like spending the millions upon millins of SP it takes to build them to their potential. When 1.8 drops, it'll be just like 1.7 was for tanks. Take all the skill out of it, make it easy-mode so a grandma can do it... Cloaking is total nonsense and is a crutch for no-skill Scouts and OP for the vet Scouts 100% this^ I've been waiting over a year for my 37 mill full scout build to finally be what 1.8 will make it. All side arms pro 4/5 2 light weapons pro 4 2 proto race scouts Fully max drop suit upgrades except rep tools Fitting optimizations on most guns at 3/4 2mill sp unallocated for a cloak. Respec would be priceless! Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
Hecarim Van Hohen ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 515	Posted - 2014.03.04 11:53:00 - [95] - Quote Half the time I encounter a scout I kill him Other half of the time the scout kills me Scouts are hardly OP :D BANGO SKANK WAS HERE 1.7 best match (HMG): 40/9/9 (K/A/D)
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 95	Posted - 2014.03.07 03:43:00 - [96] - Quote Like i said this as led me to use my dren scout and try to understand the gameplay, almost all the time i kill players with the dren shotty, unless its a heavy or a commando. Hit the head, from the back or by using adv module for passive scan. Thanks for the comments, i did convert myself to scout, its the best way to fight fire with fire... I hunt scouts in priority now when i have a choice of target... Quebec United CFO
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1475	Posted - 2014.03.07 04:23:00 - [97] - Quote I'm highly killable. I don't even run hp buffs, bro. Biotics all da way!
Lightning xVx R 0 N 1 N 399	Posted - 2014.03.07 04:30:00 - [98] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: CCP we got the point, The ultra fast impossible to kill scout with creodron shotguns because your game is laggy as **** and impossible to scan or detect in advance is totally anti-fun, has nothing to counter. I am making a prediction, the number of player will drastically drop when the cloaking is introduced and again a FTOM, an invisible player killing people making 50-2 without even any cloaking device is as game breaking as 5 tanks dominating the map with no possibility to get back into the fight. Imagine that game with the cloaking device. There is just too much exploits in this game it also sports bad level design which makes it incredibly frustrating. Either reduce scout speed or fix the lag, the effect right now is the same as a game totally hacked and impossible to play with any hope of balance. I'm sorry for saying this I really am, but if I knew you in real life I punch you in your butt chin dimple for saying NERF SCOUT. Continue, sorry for the interjection.
Defy Gravity Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 226	Posted - 2014.03.07 04:33:00 - [99] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Dude how the heck having 25 million SP and playing Dust for the last 8 months makes me a bad player ? I play scout, I like the speed, I also die what I am saying is that Speed + Lag makes it impossible to shoot somebody down. I think you defend the scout because you make good amount of kills with them and you just want them to be kept OP. Its like trying to defend the Rail Rifle wich is the flavor of the moment.... In any cases have you seen the number of scouts now, dont tell me its not another Flavor of the moment which is like all the rest unbalanced... I know my rant will fall into the cracks anyway because most of you scrubs just want to find the next exploit and kill new players to feel good about yourselves. A review of this game today will find the same failings as it had before, total pit full of people that would sell their mother to have a wall hack. God I miss Quake3 and punk buster.... Its... Beautiful. & 98% true Amarr FW Supporter. "I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!"
Billi Gene 496	Posted - 2014.03.07 05:46:00 - [100] - Quote i remember when Doom came out... i was high on acid around a lady friends house and she let me play it to chill out..... scouts are way easy to kill, which is why when you wear a scout suit you have to become an utter cowardly bastard. RE drive by's, sneaking shotguns, snipering, you name it... thats how the 'class' rolls, because the suit is not built for upfront skirmishing. can't wait for an extra equip slot and the cloak, :P scout is my fun suit, logi being the usual suits i have run :P .. by way of defending my use of such an OP suit :P Pedant, Ape, Troll. My Beard makes Alpha's sook :P



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