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Varoth Drac
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.03.04 09:13:00 -
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Has anyone actually tried using a shotgun during lag? It is impossible. Rapid fire weapons perform much better in laggy conditions. |
Chuckles Brown
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Posted - 2014.03.04 09:43:00 -
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A proper fitted Scout in this game is probably the best assault suit in the game because of the latency, low framerate, and terrible hit detection.
Speed hacked Scouts are called speed hacked for a reason, its exploiting what's wrong with this game (although, it was way worse back in the day).
I think that Scouting is easy once you get the hang of it. The greatest tools in all of FPS are POSITION and STEALTH, the Scout gives you that. You may not always get as many kills as your RR toting teammates, but chances are you'll die less and get the kills that matter.
Scouts also have a psychological edge. Once a player knows there's a Scout in the area, they get paranoid.
I used to watch red dots through wall... just stand there and watch them... they would be spinning in circles knowing I was near by. Sometimes I would run a scanner and scan them just to freak them out even more. I wouldn't even attack them... just watch.
Scouts are amazing, IF you feel like spending the millions upon millins of SP it takes to build them to their potential. When 1.8 drops, it'll be just like 1.7 was for tanks. Take all the skill out of it, make it easy-mode so a grandma can do it...
Cloaking is total nonsense and is a crutch for no-skill Scouts and OP for the vet Scouts
The official alt of 8213: All other alts are unofficially unofficial
Do you pub, brah?
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DEZKA DIABLO
0uter.Heaven
333
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Posted - 2014.03.04 11:27:00 -
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Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Dude how the heck having 25 million SP and playing Dust for the last 8 months makes me a bad player ?
I play scout, I like the speed, I also die what I am saying is that Speed + Lag makes it impossible to shoot somebody down. I think you defend the scout because you make good amount of kills with them and you just want them to be kept OP. Its like trying to defend the Rail Rifle wich is the flavor of the moment.... In any cases have you seen the number of scouts now, dont tell me its not another Flavor of the moment which is like all the rest unbalanced... I know my rant will fall into the cracks anyway because most of you scrubs just want to find the next exploit and kill new players to feel good about yourselves. A review of this game today will find the same failings as it had before, total pit full of people that would sell their mother to have a wall hack. God I miss Quake3 and punk buster....
You " play scout" or YOU ARE A SCOUT?
Cuz dude if you were a full time scout, I'd know ya, and if you were a scout you wouldn't post such foolish things.
So let's just say your not a scout and you never put one point into percision or damps or range and you use non of those mods, now let's assume you only pay attention to what's in your tunnel vision.
So take off a few mods and play smarter by getting you percision and profile under 36 db then add a range mod to get your vision past the first ring, maybe this will help your situational awareness.
I ll let it pass that your really scared that scouts are gonna feed you your feet in 1.8 and that you regret only spending sp one damage mods , rr pro 5 an a gal LOGI .
But I promise you, the true full time scouts are gonna make everyone know how they have felt dying so fast for a yr, so don't go crying OP when there ment to be the most situationally aware suits in the game.
Pro tip:
Stay with your scanner friends sounds like you can't watch your own back
Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
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DEZKA DIABLO
0uter.Heaven
333
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Posted - 2014.03.04 11:35:00 -
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Chuckles Brown wrote:A proper fitted Scout in this game is probably the best assault suit in the game because of the latency, low framerate, and terrible hit detection.
Speed hacked Scouts are called speed hacked for a reason, its exploiting what's wrong with this game (although, it was way worse back in the day).
I think that Scouting is easy once you get the hang of it. The greatest tools in all of FPS are POSITION and STEALTH, the Scout gives you that. You may not always get as many kills as your RR toting teammates, but chances are you'll die less and get the kills that matter.
Scouts also have a psychological edge. Once a player knows there's a Scout in the area, they get paranoid.
I used to watch red dots through wall... just stand there and watch them... they would be spinning in circles knowing I was near by. Sometimes I would run a scanner and scan them just to freak them out even more. I wouldn't even attack them... just watch.
Scouts are amazing, IF you feel like spending the millions upon millins of SP it takes to build them to their potential. When 1.8 drops, it'll be just like 1.7 was for tanks. Take all the skill out of it, make it easy-mode so a grandma can do it...
Cloaking is total nonsense and is a crutch for no-skill Scouts and OP for the vet Scouts 100% this^
I've been waiting over a year for my 37 mill full scout build to finally be what 1.8 will make it. All side arms pro 4/5 2 light weapons pro 4 2 proto race scouts Fully max drop suit upgrades except rep tools Fitting optimizations on most guns at 3/4 2mill sp unallocated for a cloak.
Respec would be priceless!
Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
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Hecarim Van Hohen
ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION
515
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Posted - 2014.03.04 11:53:00 -
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Half the time I encounter a scout I kill him Other half of the time the scout kills me
Scouts are hardly OP :D
BANGO SKANK WAS HERE
1.7 best match (HMG): 40/9/9 (K/A/D)
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Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
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Posted - 2014.03.07 03:43:00 -
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Like i said this as led me to use my dren scout and try to understand the gameplay, almost all the time i kill players with the dren shotty, unless its a heavy or a commando. Hit the head, from the back or by using adv module for passive scan.
Thanks for the comments, i did convert myself to scout, its the best way to fight fire with fire... I hunt scouts in priority now when i have a choice of target...
Quebec United CFO
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1475
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Posted - 2014.03.07 04:23:00 -
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I'm highly killable. I don't even run hp buffs, bro. Biotics all da way! |
Lightning xVx
R 0 N 1 N
399
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Posted - 2014.03.07 04:30:00 -
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Gelhad Thremyr wrote:CCP we got the point,
The ultra fast impossible to kill scout with creodron shotguns because your game is laggy as **** and impossible to scan or detect in advance is totally anti-fun, has nothing to counter.
I am making a prediction, the number of player will drastically drop when the cloaking is introduced and again a FTOM, an invisible player killing people making 50-2 without even any cloaking device is as game breaking as 5 tanks dominating the map with no possibility to get back into the fight.
Imagine that game with the cloaking device.
There is just too much exploits in this game it also sports bad level design which makes it incredibly frustrating. Either reduce scout speed or fix the lag, the effect right now is the same as a game totally hacked and impossible to play with any hope of balance.
I'm sorry for saying this I really am, but if I knew you in real life I punch you in your butt chin dimple for saying NERF SCOUT. Continue, sorry for the interjection. |
Defy Gravity
Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.03.07 04:33:00 -
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Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Dude how the heck having 25 million SP and playing Dust for the last 8 months makes me a bad player ?
I play scout, I like the speed, I also die what I am saying is that Speed + Lag makes it impossible to shoot somebody down. I think you defend the scout because you make good amount of kills with them and you just want them to be kept OP. Its like trying to defend the Rail Rifle wich is the flavor of the moment.... In any cases have you seen the number of scouts now, dont tell me its not another Flavor of the moment which is like all the rest unbalanced... I know my rant will fall into the cracks anyway because most of you scrubs just want to find the next exploit and kill new players to feel good about yourselves. A review of this game today will find the same failings as it had before, total pit full of people that would sell their mother to have a wall hack. God I miss Quake3 and punk buster.... Its... Beautiful. & 98% true
Amarr FW Supporter.
"I will melt you with my scrambler rifle Minmatar filth!"
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Billi Gene
496
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Posted - 2014.03.07 05:46:00 -
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i remember when Doom came out... i was high on acid around a lady friends house and she let me play it to chill out.....
scouts are way easy to kill, which is why when you wear a scout suit you have to become an utter cowardly bastard.
RE drive by's, sneaking shotguns, snipering, you name it... thats how the 'class' rolls, because the suit is not built for upfront skirmishing.
can't wait for an extra equip slot and the cloak, :P scout is my fun suit, logi being the usual suits i have run :P .. by way of defending my use of such an OP suit :P
Pedant, Ape, Troll.
My Beard makes Alpha's sook :P
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