Your idea is good but won't it be better, if the matachmaker matched players up with similar Gear variants on all Modes?

You would limit the gear used, thats the key. Matchmaking by SP or KDR doesnt work. I could have 20mil SP points and be a terrible player without any isk and thus using only basic stuff, or by KDR that would mean that all the logibros would never face assault or heavy players, for example.

Your method is similar for example you put:

"Pick Ambush----> Standard Gear and below."

Which case people would play this mode more because it's standard gear & mlt only. & most people would have to rely on their Skills to do the work.

But the reason i'm saying to put MM players with others using same variant type (MLT, Standard etc) is so to balance it out on all modes, because restricting people to use certain gear variants to play a specific mode isn't right.

No, that was just an example.
You would Pick Ambush, and then pick whatever gear you wanted to use. I will edit my post for clarity, thank you

The thing is, you can always change gear and suit in a match. That suggestion would check their favorite suit and see what meta level it would be, then it would match it with similar players. But then in a match you can always change to a better one and viceversa, we would need some mechanism that would prevent changing to a better suit than the allowed one in the map.

Yep, i hope someone is reading this. I cant think of another solution to prevent the current state of public matches.

i'm wondering if we should do the same with Factional Contracts?

i'm wondering if we should do the same with Factional Contracts?

Great idea....

Let's give full squads of the games best players the ability to join matches where all the most inexperienced players are forced to play. This would help balance tremendously.



Now in all seriousness, I was hoping I'd seen the last "sort matches by gear" thread. Your suggestion would only further imbalance matchmaking! Squads of experienced players will always stomp matches when facing a team of un-squadded blueberries.

In fact, a while back me and some other members of my corp formed an all militia/basic squad and ran pubs, and we ended up rolling through most of the matches easily, only running into trouble when we faced a full enemy squad on the other team.


The best way to balance matchmaking would be to somewhat balance the average SP levels of both team. That way, the teams would be somewhat equally experienced, and overall have the same level of gear available to each team.

Great idea....

Let's give full squads of the games best players the ability to join matches where all the most inexperienced players are forced to play. This would help balance tremendously.

Tldr

I think the idea has merit, maybe even a mode where you preload suits and those are the only ones you can use. The game would then match players based of meta of loaded suits. So your idea basically, with a little twist.

With your main idea would you then only have access to the level of gear you specified? Kinda like go into different sec space is eve. You choose which areas you travel though.

Great idea....

Let's give full squads of the games best players the ability to join matches where all the most inexperienced players are forced to play. This would help balance tremendously.



Now in all seriousness, I was hoping I'd seen the last "sort matches by gear" thread. Your suggestion would only further imbalance matchmaking! Squads of experienced players will always stomp matches when facing a team of un-squadded blueberries.

In fact, a while back me and some other members of my corp formed an all militia/basic squad and ran pubs, and we ended up rolling through most of the matches easily, only running into trouble when we faced a full enemy squad on the other team.


The best way to balance matchmaking would be to somewhat balance the average SP levels of both team. That way, the teams would be somewhat equally experienced, and overall have the same level of gear available to each team.

20mil SP and I'm a decent player at best so your suggestion would most likely f me over (player skill wise)

Generate a dynamic number based on wp/match and kdr. Call it "Rank."

Balance the teams based on that system. The sum of each player's rank would be the team rank. Teams with a significantly unbalanced rank will have to reallocate non-squaded players or a squad itself.

Basically, the system would look at Nyain San, see they're fighting a bunch of noobs, then group the noobiest noobs with Nyain San. If a balance can not be reached the party might drop/add players (pre-launch) so that Nyain San might be pitted against a formidable team.

I know my system is far from perfect, but I stand by it. This would be a great start to ending the matchmaking nightmare.

Great idea....

Let's give full squads of the games best players the ability to join matches where all the most inexperienced players are forced to play. This would help balance tremendously.



Now in all seriousness, I was hoping I'd seen the last "sort matches by gear" thread. Your suggestion would only further imbalance matchmaking! Squads of experienced players will always stomp matches when facing a team of un-squadded blueberries.

In fact, a while back me and some other members of my corp formed an all militia/basic squad and ran pubs, and we ended up rolling through most of the matches easily, only running into trouble when we faced a full enemy squad on the other team.


The best way to balance matchmaking would be to somewhat balance the average SP levels of both team. That way, the teams would be somewhat equally experienced, and overall have the same level of gear available to each team.

However there is the problem of one super experienced player squadded up with an entire team of random....against a somewhat even team....the even team will win because in all honesty avoiding one badass player is not that hard and the even team will steamroll over the imbalanced one

Match Making will have to be determined on Skill Points.

if it was determined by gear then people could easily switch. Kill death ratio means nothing in this game

Either Life time Skill points or Life time War points is the only way honestly to get even match making.

im sorry, but we have already discussed this in posts above, you cannot matchmake based on SP, because quite simply more SP doesnt translate to any skill in combat. Because of passive SP you can have a player/character who never even once played the game. How fair is that? Imagine someone who hasnt played in 10 months (deployed in a warzone, medical situations, etc) comes back to Dust 514 and only goes against veteran players in proto suits? Not fair AT all.

Matchmaking based on WP wont work either, because for example a logibro can have tons of WP and completly suck in gun game, you can earn thousands of wp in a game without even killing anyone, do you think its fair this logistics player faces proto players with an amazing gun game? Doubt it.

It has to be matchmaking by Gear (where you decide the maximum meta level of gear you can go against in a match) or by something it was suggested before, a variable based on the sum or some kind of medium of all stats: KDR, SP, and WP.

So you are saying i should only be able to go into battle with certain kind of gear per game mode?

Its not my fault the guy that started the game 10 months ago stoped playing. he will still have x amount skill points to put in his core skills or where ever.

Yeah Logi do get alot of wp but at the same time who fault is that? They are the ones that spam droplinks so they can get even more skill points and upgrade. please stop acting like these people are just sitting on there skill points and not using them.