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Zack3000 Smith
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Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.02.24 11:29:00 -
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Match Making will have to be determined on Skill Points.
if it was determined by gear then people could easily switch. Kill death ratio means nothing in this game
Either Life time Skill points or Life time War points is the only way honestly to get even match making.
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Zack3000 Smith
Endless Hatred
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.02.24 11:45:00 -
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KatanaPT wrote:Zack3000 Smith wrote:Match Making will have to be determined on Skill Points.
if it was determined by gear then people could easily switch. Kill death ratio means nothing in this game
Either Life time Skill points or Life time War points is the only way honestly to get even match making.
im sorry, but we have already discussed this in posts above, you cannot matchmake based on SP, because quite simply more SP doesnt translate to any skill in combat. Because of passive SP you can have a player/character who never even once played the game. How fair is that? Imagine someone who hasnt played in 10 months (deployed in a warzone, medical situations, etc) comes back to Dust 514 and only goes against veteran players in proto suits? Not fair AT all. Matchmaking based on WP wont work either, because for example a logibro can have tons of WP and completly suck in gun game, you can earn thousands of wp in a game without even killing anyone, do you think its fair this logistics player faces proto players with an amazing gun game? Doubt it. It has to be matchmaking by Gear (where you decide the maximum meta level of gear you can go against in a match) or by something it was suggested before, a variable based on the sum or some kind of medium of all stats: KDR, SP, and WP.
So you are saying i should only be able to go into battle with certain kind of gear per game mode?
Its not my fault the guy that started the game 10 months ago stoped playing. he will still have x amount skill points to put in his core skills or where ever.
Yeah Logi do get alot of wp but at the same time who fault is that? They are the ones that spam droplinks so they can get even more skill points and upgrade. please stop acting like these people are just sitting on there skill points and not using them. |
Zack3000 Smith
Endless Hatred
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.02.24 11:59:00 -
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No. I was thrown into the fire and learned so should everyone else. I understand the sections that you want to implement. but if a person can only use MLT or basic because that is all they got then they should be put in together automatically.
Not with someone that has 15 million skill points but wants to only run MLT gear....That person will still mop the floor with a person. I can jump in a frontline suit and still do fairly decent just as if i was in proto..
Its not the gear people are using. its the experience they have in the game.
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Zack3000 Smith
Endless Hatred
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.02.24 12:09:00 -
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KatanaPT wrote:Zack3000 Smith wrote:No. I was thrown into the fire and learned so should everyone else. I understand the sections that you want to implement. but if a person can only use MLT or basic because that is all they got then they should be put in together automatically.
Not with someone that has 15 million skill points but wants to only run MLT gear....That person will still mop the floor with a person. I can jump in a frontline suit and still do fairly decent just as if i was in proto..
Its not the gear people are using. its the experience they have in the game.
Yes i can see your point, and i do agree to some of it, which brings me to another problem we have, the new player experience. New players get out of Academy too damn soon, im my opinion.
Yes. We do need a longer academy. but at the same time BF4 doesnt even have an academy they throw you in the fire faster than dust 514. this is the first FPS i have played that has an academy. Honestly i think that may help with the new players that quit within the week or month however long it takes for them to quit.
It also give false hope because you can be really good in the academy then get out ..... |
Zack3000 Smith
Endless Hatred
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.02.24 12:20:00 -
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KatanaPT wrote:Well, it really is a different game, with all the economy, gear, rpg stuff. Once they are out of academy they are literally trown into the wolves, unless you have the fortune of joining a corp, that helps.
That is why i feel it needs to be match making based on experience in game and the only way to measure that is by War Points or Skill Points.
they could make it 1mil - 5 mil etc. it shouldnt have be exactly the same as yours. |
Zack3000 Smith
Endless Hatred
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.02.24 12:51:00 -
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KatanaPT wrote:Yes, i understand, something like ranks. Lower ranks wont acess high rank matches but will have low isk payback. High ranks can acess all ranks but will only be interested in doing high rank matches because of the isk involved.
YES. but you should not be able to go to a lower tier. Then the new players will see they have to same gear as the opponent but still be discouraged because they just got murked and keep getting murked.
SP, ISK, WP are all a bonus. i play this game cause when i kill someone i want to feel like i accomplished something. but you will still get pub stompers but they would just be in MLT. I can say with confidence because look at some people here in the community that get off on killing lesser opponents and think they are good *cough* tankers *cough* |
Zack3000 Smith
Endless Hatred
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.02.24 13:01:00 -
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20 million skill points vs 5 million skill points is still not fair regardless if both have basic gear |
Zack3000 Smith
Endless Hatred
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.02.24 13:03:00 -
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KatanaPT wrote:Zack3000 Smith wrote:KatanaPT wrote:Yes, i understand, something like ranks. Lower ranks wont acess high rank matches but will have low isk payback. High ranks can acess all ranks but will only be interested in doing high rank matches because of the isk involved. YES. but you should not be able to go to a lower tier. Then the new players will see they have to same gear as the opponent but still be discouraged because they just got murked and keep getting murked. SP, ISK, WP are all a bonus. i play this game cause when i kill someone i want to feel like i accomplished something. but you will still get pub stompers but they would just be in MLT. I can say with confidence because look at some people here in the community that get off on killing lesser opponents and think they are good *cough* tankers *cough* I see a problem there, imagine i want to use some kinda gun or suit that isnt proto or like in my original post, run a all militia event for my corp. You would be restricted to the hight tiers with the dangers involved. I still think the paycheck at the end of a match would be a discouragement for a proto user to go into low rank matches.
Yeah they wont make as much ISK. but they are in MLT anyway there is no risk. you will still have people in there just to murder people so they can geek and laugh about it |
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