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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6648	Posted - 2014.02.19 14:15:00 - [1] - Quote The amount of ISK saved by BPO's is more than what is generated by Plantary Conquest. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 1719	Posted - 2014.02.19 14:16:00 - [2] - Quote I can see why that would be disturbing. Maybe CCP has a point. Also. Maths? Forge on for great justice! Defend the meek! Destroy the weak! Q-sync breaches into the rectum of everyone else!
Virtual Riot The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 201	Posted - 2014.02.19 14:16:00 - [3] - Quote pics or it didn't happen
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3462	Posted - 2014.02.19 14:17:00 - [4] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: The amount of ISK saved by BPO's is more than what is generated by Plantary Conquest. One of them "might" impact AUR sales. I'll give you guess as to which. Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6648	Posted - 2014.02.19 14:20:00 - [5] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: I can see why that would be disturbing. Maybe CCP has a point. Also. Maths? Data from CCP, got it through the CPM. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1079	Posted - 2014.02.19 14:21:00 - [6] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: The amount of ISK saved by BPO's is more than what is generated by Plantary Conquest. True Story
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2635	Posted - 2014.02.19 14:23:00 - [7] - Quote Source? Intelligence is OP
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2647	Posted - 2014.02.19 14:23:00 - [8] - Quote Is that due to BPO use during PC battles - that never happen? I GÖú Kittens.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4516	Posted - 2014.02.19 14:31:00 - [9] - Quote Actually posting the evidence rather than just stating something like this without showing your working would be nice. Also, consider the number of active PC corps vs. the number of players using BPOs who WOULDN'T be using Starter Fits if they didn't have the BPOs to run.
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 306	Posted - 2014.02.19 14:34:00 - [10] - Quote Apparently the promise of real monetary exchange for unlimited copies of otherwise exhaustable inventories has consequences. It's a blemish on CCP, and now they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They have already started backpedaling, and the only way out is more backpedaling. I think they should go one way or another, and then promise not to break any future promises. It might work either way. I offer this warning though, like the music industry, you can't just add up all the free copies used and convert them to new AUR profits. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG

Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1866	Posted - 2014.02.19 14:36:00 - [11] - Quote Cat Merc has once again abused catnip. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Cat Merc, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 875	Posted - 2014.02.19 14:39:00 - [12] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: The amount of ISK saved by BPO's is more than what is generated by Plantary Conquest. I call bullshit Who wants some?
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6649	Posted - 2014.02.19 14:45:00 - [13] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: Cat Merc wrote: The amount of ISK saved by BPO's is more than what is generated by Plantary Conquest. I call bullshit CCP data. It ain't bullshit. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1248	Posted - 2014.02.19 14:47:00 - [14] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Is that due to BPO use during PC battles - that never happen? I would assume that most PC players have BPOs. If they use those BPOs in a few self-attack situations, how greatly does that skew the data? For what ISK is generated in PC there is a significant amount lossed defending or attacking districts.. No one runs joke fits unless your Kalante in a 6us/vs/14them and still gets 25 kills in a militia suit... I Personally own almost all the BPO's that have been offered for sale... probably 4-5 dragonfly's? But I never use BPO's... Seems to be the case for most of the competitive corporations and BPO use, with a few exceptions... Blueprints in EVE are merely that... A set of Instructions for crafting the said item. I Would LOVE to see a crafting system in EVE similar involving the BPO's and salvage system. So Say i kill a Guy with an assault rifle and a Minmatar Suit, I get a piece of the Assault Rifle and Minmatar suit to then combine with other salvage to Craft an Assault Rifle at 0 cost. Blueprints even in lore where it just spawns another suit with no materials or ISK cost will never make sense no matter how convenient the operation is to my personal ISK making aspirations.
Aeon Amadi Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4986	Posted - 2014.02.19 14:49:00 - [15] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: Cat Merc wrote: The amount of ISK saved by BPO's is more than what is generated by Plantary Conquest. I call bullshit CCP data. It ain't bullshit. Unfortunately, it's speculation for the moment and we'll likely not see any graphs/charts/data until CCP is comfortable with the inevitable backlash of either. Useful Links //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133588 //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134182
Syeven Reed RETR0 PR0 GAMERS INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 403	Posted - 2014.02.19 14:50:00 - [16] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: The amount of ISK saved by BPO's is more than what is generated by Planetary Conquest. Edit: The data comes from CCP, through CPM. Yeah but its concentrated to a few corps, its an even playing field with BPO's. Gÿé Syeven 514
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 333	Posted - 2014.02.19 14:51:00 - [17] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: The amount of SOURCE cited by Cat Merc is less than what is cited by a blind monkey. Edit: The data comes from CCP, through CPM. Source or it didn't happen. I heard some data from CCP, through CPM, that Cat Merc is full of it. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 666	Posted - 2014.02.19 14:55:00 - [18] - Quote So BPO users made more ISK than PC abusers.... Yeah, this needs proof before i'll believe that Plasma Cannon will have its chance if AR/HAV 514 is ever fixed
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1250	Posted - 2014.02.19 14:59:00 - [19] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: So BPO users made more ISK than PC abusers.... Yeah, this needs proof before i'll believe that It makes sense when you think of how big the player pool is in PC... its tiny... I've been fighting with or against the same names for nearly a year... Nearly anyone that has played this game for a couple month period and had the option to buy a blueprint that fits their gameplay... Bought one and usually uses it in Pubs' to grind ISK. And this player pool is a majority of DUST. If you merely look at the max potential of ISK generated per day in PC.... And then think about the potential ISK income from Pub payouts running all day with 100% profit from BPO use. The amount of ISK generated from those BPO with absolutely no loss or cost.. is economy breaking.
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1676	Posted - 2014.02.19 15:03:00 - [20] - Quote Bethhy wrote: TheD1CK wrote: So BPO users made more ISK than PC abusers.... Yeah, this needs proof before i'll believe that It makes sense when you think of how big the player pool is in PC... its tiny... I've been fighting with or against the same names for nearly a year... Nearly anyone that has played this game for a couple month period and had the option to buy a blueprint that fits their gameplay... Bought one and usually uses it in Pubs' to grind ISK. And this player pool is a majority of DUST. If you merely look at the max potential of ISK generated per day in PC.... And then think about the potential ISK income from Pub's payouts running all day with 100% profit from BPO use. 5k deaths * Militia Assault Rifle @ 600 ISK = 3M just for the militia rifle. "You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus." Raoul Duke

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6649	Posted - 2014.02.19 15:04:00 - [21] - Quote Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: Cat Merc wrote: The amount of SOURCE cited by Cat Merc is less than what is cited by a blind monkey. Edit: The data comes from CCP, through CPM. Source or it didn't happen. I heard some data from CCP, through CPM, that Cat Merc is full of it. Visit IRC or talk with them on skype from once in a while. Because I do. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1676	Posted - 2014.02.19 15:06:00 - [22] - Quote Bethhy wrote: TheD1CK wrote: So BPO users made more ISK than PC abusers.... Yeah, this needs proof before i'll believe that It makes sense when you think of how big the player pool is in PC... its tiny... I've been fighting with or against the same names for nearly a year... Nearly anyone that has played this game for a couple month period and had the option to buy a blueprint that fits their gameplay... Bought one and usually uses it in Pubs' to grind ISK. And this player pool is a majority of DUST. If you merely look at the max potential of ISK generated per day in PC.... And then think about the potential ISK income from Pub payouts running all day with 100% profit from BPO use. The amount of ISK generated from those BPO with absolutely no loss or cost.. is economy breaking. With no material supply needed to build the item it is just magically produced and is totally free. That is the problem, it is just wished into reality. "You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus." Raoul Duke
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2635	Posted - 2014.02.19 15:07:00 - [23] - Quote Still no source Its BS Intelligence is OP
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1250	Posted - 2014.02.19 15:10:00 - [24] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: With no material supply needed to build the item it is just magically produced and is totally free. That is the problem, it is just wished into reality. Bethhy wrote: Blueprints in EVE are merely that... A set of Instructions for crafting the said item. I Would LOVE to see a crafting system in DUST that is similar, involving the BPO's and salvage system. So Say I kill a Guy with an Assault Rifle and a Minmatar Suit, I get a piece of the Assault Rifle and Minmatar suit to then combine with other salvage to Craft an Assault Rifle at 0 cost. Blueprints even in lore where it just spawns another suit with no materials or ISK cost will never make sense no matter how convenient the operation is to my personal ISK making aspirations.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4516	Posted - 2014.02.19 15:12:00 - [25] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: Cat Merc wrote: The amount of SOURCE cited by Cat Merc is less than what is cited by a blind monkey. Edit: The data comes from CCP, through CPM. Source or it didn't happen. I heard some data from CCP, through CPM, that Cat Merc is full of it. Visit IRC or talk with them on skype from once in a while. Because I do. Post the IRC log, then.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6649	Posted - 2014.02.19 15:12:00 - [26] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Still no source Its BS It's a skype conversation. It has me, Arkena Wyrnspire, Mobius Wyvern, Aisha Ctarl, Hans Jagerblitzen, jenza aranda, KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf etc'. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 2202	Posted - 2014.02.19 15:13:00 - [27] - Quote So who is the farmer again? Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 586	Posted - 2014.02.19 15:13:00 - [28] - Quote I am curious how they could figure out how much ISK has been saved because of BPO's. Would be interesting to see their numbers and conclusions.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6649	Posted - 2014.02.19 15:16:00 - [29] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: So who is the farmer again? Still you. The money generated in PC is still much more concentrated. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6649	Posted - 2014.02.19 15:17:00 - [30] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: Cat Merc wrote: The amount of SOURCE cited by Cat Merc is less than what is cited by a blind monkey. Edit: The data comes from CCP, through CPM. Source or it didn't happen. I heard some data from CCP, through CPM, that Cat Merc is full of it. Visit IRC or talk with them on skype from once in a while. Because I do. Post the IRC log, then. It's somewhere in the Skype chat history. I didn't make a thread about it as soon as it was told since I needed time to figure out what it means exactly. (Implications, etc') I will try to find the logs, but here is the chat: http://i.imgur.com/ZOPowbg.png Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos



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