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Th3rdSun wrote:

pyramidhead 420 wrote:

Buster Friently wrote:

Th3rdSun wrote:

http://www.slashgear.com/playstation-3-has-2-4-years-left-in-it-according-to-sony-11316546/

So if CCP is sticking to their guns of being "laser focused" on developing for the PS3,this game is most definitely doomed.Oh,and the whole "five year roadmap" is pretty much out the window as well.

CCP,it's PS4 or bust for this game,you have to know that,right?

None of the (now old) generation of consoles are going to even last this long. Mobile is going to eat the console market alive in under two years.

moble? i almost spit my food out from laughter. get real kid, only 10 year olds play games on mommies ipad.

and OP is a fool if you dont think ps3 will being going strong well past 4 years. free online play is huge for people with little money or kids to young to have a consistent cash flow

moble.....hahahahah, is that you onya?

Might be going,but not strong,and I didn't write the article so WTF are you attacking me for?

My point is that if PSN on PS3 goes away,and CCP is still "laser focused" on the PS3,then they need ot get their heads out of their asses and work on getting this game on a console that can actually handle it's high demands,and they need to get working on that yesterday.

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Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 577	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:00:00 - [1] - Quote http://www.slashgear.com/playstation-3-has-2-4-years-left-in-it-according-to-sony-11316546/ So if CCP is sticking to their guns of being "laser focused" on developing for the PS3,this game is most definitely doomed.Oh,and the whole "five year roadmap" is pretty much out the window as well. CCP,it's PS4 or bust for this game,you have to know that,right?
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 1663	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:02:00 - [2] - Quote aww yisss. This is excitement! Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters. Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2976	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:09:00 - [3] - Quote Yeah, they should totally port to PS4 so that they can have this same problem again in 5 years down the line of their "10 year plan." PC or bust.
Exodeon Salviej The Third Day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 40	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:10:00 - [4] - Quote ._. How is that bad news? They most likely are going to keep this game on ps3 for the next 2-4 years. And then move it over when it needs to be. Besides, that's LONGER than the ps2 lasted...MUCH longer. Even though the ps4 would be better for the game hardware wise; they wouldn't move it over instantly because of that, and that just gives me all the more reason to wait a while before I get a ps4. I won't be buying one unless it has DUST on it. ._. Your face is something to shoot, so I will shoot. Don't be offended, I do it to everyone.
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 95	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:12:00 - [5] - Quote wont even care because i'll be playing planetside2 by then, this is just a place holder until that time u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 577	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:18:00 - [6] - Quote Exodeon Salviej wrote: ._. How is that bad news? They most likely are going to keep this game on ps3 for the next 2-4 years. And then move it over when it needs to be. Besides, that's LONGER than the ps2 lasted...MUCH longer. Even though the ps4 would be better for the game hardware wise; they wouldn't move it over instantly because of that, and that just gives me all the more reason to wait a while before I get a ps4. I won't be buying one unless it has DUST on it. ._. What are you talking about? the PS2 was finally discontinued January of last year,which was just over 12 years after the first console hit the shelves here in North America.If the PS3 goes another four years,that's 12 years after it's launch.Math fail.
Midas Fool Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 383	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:22:00 - [7] - Quote LASER FOCUSEDGäó +25 Kill Assist...+25 Kill Assist...+25 Kill Assist...NO HOW WHY
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 3204	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:23:00 - [8] - Quote Shrugs And? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 1969	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:30:00 - [9] - Quote except moving from PS3 to PS4 will require very little work since the PS4 supports the U3 engine. All they have to do is rejig the input to accept the DS4 over DS3. Dust will encounter problems when they decide to go from a U3/Carbon hybrid to a U4/Carbon hybrid. That will require a new build, moving to PS4 3 years down the line won't. Spkr4thedead: Me > AV This is why tanks are unbalanced Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.
Lucrezia LeGrand 321	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:30:00 - [10] - Quote come on! everyone knows that they're secretly working on a ps4 version. It would be dumb not to, and I think they've dropped enough hints to say it is a possibility. Thale groupie

Cpl Foster USMC Alpha Response Command 658	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:35:00 - [11] - Quote "2, 3,or 4 years left" sounds exactly like a CCP answer.... in other words people are working on it, but he has no clue.. and neither do we....
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 597	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:36:00 - [12] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: Yeah, they should totally port to PS4 so that they can have this same problem again in 5 years down the line of their "10 year plan." PC or bust. on pc it would have same problems the problem is vacation days. Btw ps4 can play planetside two in what was it super mode or something? whatever it can run on that a ok but some pcs cant s shush We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 1969	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:36:00 - [13] - Quote Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: come on! everyone knows that they're secretly working on a ps4 version. It would be dumb not to, and I think they've dropped enough hints to say it is a possibility. They confirmed they have ONE team working on getting the current build to work on PS4 but they are certainly in no rush and you are gonna see overnight improvements between the two. Spkr4thedead: Me > AV This is why tanks are unbalanced Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 1797	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:37:00 - [14] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: Yeah, they should totally port to PS4 so that they can have this same problem again in 5 years down the line of their "10 year plan." PC or bust. 100% agree
Buster Friently Rosen Association 1798	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:39:00 - [15] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: http://www.slashgear.com/playstation-3-has-2-4-years-left-in-it-according-to-sony-11316546/ So if CCP is sticking to their guns of being "laser focused" on developing for the PS3,this game is most definitely doomed.Oh,and the whole "five year roadmap" is pretty much out the window as well. CCP,it's PS4 or bust for this game,you have to know that,right? None of the (now old) generation of consoles are going to even last this long. Mobile is going to eat the console market alive in under two years.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 579	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:42:00 - [16] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: come on! everyone knows that they're secretly working on a ps4 version. It would be dumb not to, and I think they've dropped enough hints to say it is a possibility. They confirmed they have ONE team working on getting the current build to work on PS4 but they are certainly in no rush and you are gonna see overnight improvements between the two. Link please.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 1971	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:43:00 - [17] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: come on! everyone knows that they're secretly working on a ps4 version. It would be dumb not to, and I think they've dropped enough hints to say it is a possibility. They confirmed they have ONE team working on getting the current build to work on PS4 but they are certainly in no rush and you are gonna see overnight improvements between the two. Link please. Dunno, search it. Spkr4thedead: Me > AV This is why tanks are unbalanced Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 579	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:45:00 - [18] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: http://www.slashgear.com/playstation-3-has-2-4-years-left-in-it-according-to-sony-11316546/ So if CCP is sticking to their guns of being "laser focused" on developing for the PS3,this game is most definitely doomed.Oh,and the whole "five year roadmap" is pretty much out the window as well. CCP,it's PS4 or bust for this game,you have to know that,right? None of the (now old) generation of consoles are going to even last this long. Mobile is going to eat the console market alive in under two years. I'll take that bet,with real world currency too,not ISK. There's no way that the mobile market is going to dominate the console market.While it is successful,it's not going to lure the hardcore gamers away from their consoles and PCs.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 579	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:46:00 - [19] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: come on! everyone knows that they're secretly working on a ps4 version. It would be dumb not to, and I think they've dropped enough hints to say it is a possibility. They confirmed they have ONE team working on getting the current build to work on PS4 but they are certainly in no rush and you are gonna see overnight improvements between the two. Link please. Dunno, search it. Hey,you made the statement,you have to back up your claims,because I'm calling BS on it.
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 323	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:46:00 - [20] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: http://www.slashgear.com/playstation-3-has-2-4-years-left-in-it-according-to-sony-11316546/ So if CCP is sticking to their guns of being "laser focused" on developing for the PS3,this game is most definitely doomed.Oh,and the whole "five year roadmap" is pretty much out the window as well. CCP,it's PS4 or bust for this game,you have to know that,right? None of the (now old) generation of consoles are going to even last this long. Mobile is going to eat the console market alive in under two years. moble? i almost spit my food out from laughter. get real kid, only 10 year olds play games on mommies ipad. and OP is a fool if you dont think ps3 will being going strong well past 4 years. free online play is huge for people with little money or kids to young to have a consistent cash flow moble.....hahahahah, is that you onya?

Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2977	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:46:00 - [21] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Baal Roo wrote: Yeah, they should totally port to PS4 so that they can have this same problem again in 5 years down the line of their "10 year plan." PC or bust. on pc it would have same problems the problem is vacation days. Btw ps4 can play planetside two in what was it super mode or something? whatever it can run on that a ok but some pcs cant s shush Could you maybe try that again in english? The problem I'm pointing out is that PS4 is basically a low-end budget level PC. Unlike PS3, which was actually sold at a loss and on par with relatively high-end PCs at the time, the PS4 isn't likely going to have the same sort of long term shelf life. For a company that wants to have a "long term vision" for their game, spending all of that time porting to a system that's already limited in what it can offer and expected to be replaced again before their "vision" for the game is fully realized doesn't make a lot of sense. They've already made this mistake once, it would be kind of ridiculous to see them make it a second time. My intent here isn't to disparage the PS4, I'm just pointing out the potential problem of moving to PS4 for this particular sort of project.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2864	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:48:00 - [22] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: come on! everyone knows that they're secretly working on a ps4 version. It would be dumb not to, and I think they've dropped enough hints to say it is a possibility. They confirmed they have ONE team working on getting the current build to work on PS4 but they are certainly in no rush and you are gonna see overnight improvements between the two. Link please. Dunno, search it. I don't believe they've made any statements about working on PS4. ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 579	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:50:00 - [23] - Quote pyramidhead 420 wrote: Buster Friently wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: http://www.slashgear.com/playstation-3-has-2-4-years-left-in-it-according-to-sony-11316546/ So if CCP is sticking to their guns of being "laser focused" on developing for the PS3,this game is most definitely doomed.Oh,and the whole "five year roadmap" is pretty much out the window as well. CCP,it's PS4 or bust for this game,you have to know that,right? None of the (now old) generation of consoles are going to even last this long. Mobile is going to eat the console market alive in under two years. moble? i almost spit my food out from laughter. get real kid, only 10 year olds play games on mommies ipad. and OP is a fool if you dont think ps3 will being going strong well past 4 years. free online play is huge for people with little money or kids to young to have a consistent cash flow moble.....hahahahah, is that you onya? Might be going,but not strong,and I didn't write the article so WTF are you attacking me for? My point is that if PSN on PS3 goes away,and CCP is still "laser focused" on the PS3,then they need ot get their heads out of their asses and work on getting this game on a console that can actually handle it's high demands,and they need to get working on that yesterday.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 705	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:51:00 - [24] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: http://www.slashgear.com/playstation-3-has-2-4-years-left-in-it-according-to-sony-11316546/ So if CCP is sticking to their guns of being "laser focused" on developing for the PS3,this game is most definitely doomed.Oh,and the whole "five year roadmap" is pretty much out the window as well. CCP,it's PS4 or bust for this game,you have to know that,right? None of the (now old) generation of consoles are going to even last this long. Mobile is going to eat the console market alive in under two years. Is that you Pachter? Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 1971	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:53:00 - [25] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: come on! everyone knows that they're secretly working on a ps4 version. It would be dumb not to, and I think they've dropped enough hints to say it is a possibility. They confirmed they have ONE team working on getting the current build to work on PS4 but they are certainly in no rush and you are gonna see overnight improvements between the two. Link please. Dunno, search it. Hey,you made the statement,you have to back up your claims,because I'm calling BS on it. So? Wether you believe me or not, is not my concern. I saw it here somewhere, if YOU call BS YOU go find it. No offence, but I'm not gonna trawl through months of forum backlog for 3 line post. Spkr4thedead: Me > AV This is why tanks are unbalanced Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 323	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:53:00 - [26] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: pyramidhead 420 wrote: Buster Friently wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: http://www.slashgear.com/playstation-3-has-2-4-years-left-in-it-according-to-sony-11316546/ So if CCP is sticking to their guns of being "laser focused" on developing for the PS3,this game is most definitely doomed.Oh,and the whole "five year roadmap" is pretty much out the window as well. CCP,it's PS4 or bust for this game,you have to know that,right? None of the (now old) generation of consoles are going to even last this long. Mobile is going to eat the console market alive in under two years. moble? i almost spit my food out from laughter. get real kid, only 10 year olds play games on mommies ipad. and OP is a fool if you dont think ps3 will being going strong well past 4 years. free online play is huge for people with little money or kids to young to have a consistent cash flow moble.....hahahahah, is that you onya? Might be going,but not strong,and I didn't write the article so WTF are you attacking me for? My point is that if PSN on PS3 goes away,and CCP is still "laser focused" on the PS3,then they need ot get their heads out of their asses and work on getting this game on a console that can actually handle it's high demands,and they need to get working on that yesterday. sorry, the silly statement about moble gaming just got me going....moblle, like sega game gear? lol
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1697	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:54:00 - [27] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: except moving from PS3 to PS4 will require very little work since the PS4 supports the U3 engine. All they have to do is rejig the input to accept the DS4 over DS3. Dust will encounter problems when they decide to go from a U3/Carbon hybrid to a U4/Carbon hybrid. That will require a new build, moving to PS4 3 years down the line won't. Actually, that's not really correct. It runs on a modified version of U3. They modified the engine to such a degree that they were asked to give a presentation about it at GDC. It had something to do with lighting effects. If the PS3 and PS4 had the same underlying architecture they would basically just need to copy the changes over, but because the architecture is different they'll actually need to rebuild their changes to the engine.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 705	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:54:00 - [28] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Baal Roo wrote: Yeah, they should totally port to PS4 so that they can have this same problem again in 5 years down the line of their "10 year plan." PC or bust. on pc it would have same problems the problem is vacation days. Btw ps4 can play planetside two in what was it super mode or something? whatever it can run on that a ok but some pcs cant s shush Could you maybe try that again in english? The problem I'm pointing out is that PS4 is basically a low-end budget level PC. Unlike PS3, which was actually sold at a loss and on par with relatively high-end PCs at the time, the PS4 isn't likely going to have the same sort of long term shelf life. For a company that wants to have a "long term vision" for their game, spending all of that time porting to a system that's already limited in what it can offer and expected to be replaced again before their "vision" for the game is fully realized doesn't make a lot of sense. They've already made this mistake once, it would be kind of ridiculous to see them make it a second time. My intent here isn't to disparage the PS4, I'm just pointing out the potential problem of moving to PS4 for this particular sort of project. The whole purpose of Dust 514 is for CCP to break into the console space. They've already got 500,000 paying PC customers, they are trying to make some money off of us console gamers. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 1798	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:55:00 - [29] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: Buster Friently wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: http://www.slashgear.com/playstation-3-has-2-4-years-left-in-it-according-to-sony-11316546/ So if CCP is sticking to their guns of being "laser focused" on developing for the PS3,this game is most definitely doomed.Oh,and the whole "five year roadmap" is pretty much out the window as well. CCP,it's PS4 or bust for this game,you have to know that,right? None of the (now old) generation of consoles are going to even last this long. Mobile is going to eat the console market alive in under two years. I'll take that bet,with real world currency too,not ISK. There's no way that the mobile market is going to dominate the console market.While it is successful,it's not going to lure the hardcore gamers away from their consoles and PCs. Sure thing. Look me up in 2 years. Hardcore gamers are on PC already. Consoles have, for their existence, been the low hanging fruit, i.e the cheaper, easier, lesser alternative to PCs. Guess what fills that niche now? yeah mobile. All the AAA developers are already in the process of transferring their development to where the most possible customers are - mobile. That means you're going to be seeing a lot more ports from mobile, i.e. Android, onto the consoles, just like we've seen for consoles -> PCs for the last decade. Console users are already the minority in terms of numbers, and worse yet, they're now sandwiched between the high end PC users (small number, but willing to pay a lot) and the mobile users (very large numbers, but willing to pay less). this trend is only going to accelerate as mobile becomes more powerful. How old is an "old" mobile device? One year? Two? Consoles can not maintain a 10, or even 5 year cycle anymore. By then, Mobile devices will out power even the current generation of consoles, let alone, the last gen. I'm sorry, but Consoles are on their way to niche much faster that most people realize. This is just one of the reasons that Dust should move to PC. The PC high end will likely survive for much longer.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1214	Posted - 2014.02.15 00:58:00 - [30] - Quote You know how you get off watching a train wreck plow through a ton of cars? No one? Really, just me? Yeah, this one is gonna be beautiful when it happens. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!



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