But... I AM THE SR USER!

I took on an entire team multiple times today and even melted heavies. On CQC this weapon is atrocious thanks to good accuracy, the only time RR will beat me is if the guy if hipfiring at medium range. On a Amarr suit it's actually hard to overheat the weapon as I usually need 5-8 shots (no charge used) to kill one guy, with charge shot I can still shoot multiple times or just switch to a proto SMG.

My best consecutive scores today:

38-2
49-7
50-2
I think I forgot another

My dual tanked logi only has 400 health..... QQ

To be honest I wouldn't mind a logi that is meant solely for squad support. Give it more health, only a sidearm, no grenade, and 4 equipment slots (at all levels).

Used the Scr for the first time today with two damage mods. wanted to see what all the hype was about. Hell I've been one shotted by this thing for months now.

Results: one shotted 6 people like whoa... that wasn't even a headshot

Then when I got headshots and they one shotted armor tankers I thought... muhahaha this gun is pure evil.

Its a freckin sniper rifle you rarely have to reload. Plus you can never ran out of ammo if you always charge. so yea this gun only has one limitation... the user.

Oh and that overheat mechanic people talk about...seems they always forget to mention they have a side arm. But most will be like "you can't switch when its overheating" but a true user will swap before he locks himself out of a gun fight.

Does this gun feel unfair? Depends on which side of the barrel your on.

Prove me wrong.

This isn't how debates work, you need to support your point (with evidence!) in the first place before I can attempt to disprove it, either by finding a flaw in your logic, refuting the evidence provided or finding where your point is mistaken and explaining the mistake.

This is how intelligent individuals exchange ideas / express information. You can't just walk into a room and scream "GOD EXISTS ****ERS, PROVE ME WRONG", it doesn't work because you haven't provided plausible support for your idea.

Edit: no anecdotal evidence please, that shouldn't hold any weight in an intelligent discussion.

Prove me wrong.

Oh god, another one of you degenerates crying over the SCR + Amarr Assault...who OHK'ed you this time?

Look, the SCR is an awesome weapon made even more awesome by the Amarr Assault, but the SCR is a weapon that only really shines in 1 v 1 fights.

1 v 1 I would venture that a good SCR user will win just about every time. The charge shot will take out a large chunk of health whereas the follow up shots will kill the target.

The SCR struggles in CQC and fights that are more than 1 v 1 thanks to the overheat mechanic. Yes, you may not believe it, but it is still easy to overheat the SCR even in an Amarr medium suit when you're panic firing at someone CQC, or trying to take out multiple enemies shooting back at you with their AR's, CR's, and RR's.

I really think that is the bit people fail to understand is that....

SCR - 1 v 1
RR - 1 v how ever many before you run out of ammo or killed
AR - ditto
CR - ditto

Yet people complain that "boo hoo BOO HOO, the SCR OHK'ed me and mopped the floor with my corpse!"

Pro tip - don't take on a SCR user alone...you're gonna lose every time.

It's not wrong..


But amarr suit sucks with every other weapon.

Oh god, another one of you degenerates crying over the SCR + Amarr Assault...who OHK'ed you this time?

Look, the SCR is an awesome weapon made even more awesome by the Amarr Assault, but the SCR is a weapon that only really shines in 1 v 1 fights.

1 v 1 I would venture that a good SCR user will win just about every time. The charge shot will take out a large chunk of health whereas the follow up shots will kill the target.

The SCR struggles in CQC and fights that are more than 1 v 1 thanks to the overheat mechanic. Yes, you may not believe it, but it is still easy to overheat the SCR even in an Amarr medium suit when you're panic firing at someone CQC, or trying to take out multiple enemies shooting back at you with their AR's, CR's, and RR's.

I really think that is the bit people fail to understand is that....

SCR - 1 v 1
RR - 1 v how ever many before you run out of ammo or killed
AR - ditto
CR - ditto

Yet people complain that "boo hoo BOO HOO, the SCR OHK'ed me and mopped the floor with my corpse!"

Pro tip - don't take on a SCR user alone...you're gonna lose every time.

Here, show me on this doll where the Scrambler Rifle touched you

But... I AM THE SR USER!

I took on an entire team multiple times today and even melted heavies. On CQC this weapon is atrocious thanks to good accuracy, the only time RR will beat me is if the guy if hipfiring at medium range. On a Amarr suit it's actually hard to overheat the weapon as I usually need 5-8 shots (no charge used) to kill one guy, with charge shot I can still shoot multiple times or just switch to a proto SMG.

My best consecutive scores today:

38-2
49-7
50-2
I think I forgot another

So what? You're in the top 1% of the playerbase, good for you. I don't think games should ever be balanced around the top 1%. If you're really good at something, your performance should also be really good, not just balanced. Just because a few players can make some really effective use out of something doesn't mean that it is OP.

I've taken out three people with one magazine with the ADV RR, and earlier today took out five....FIVE people with one magazine of the GEK. Most I've taken out in a group with the Viziam SCR - about a person and a half before I overheated and was taken out.

What the hell are you using, std gear?




You've only been killing people who are not counter-equipped thus far.

MLT scrubs can be one shot. Shield tankers can be ripped through, and Heavies will melt simply because they cannot dodge the incoming fire to mitigate any of the damage.

Dual Tanked Proto Slayer Logis have enough HP that they can take your charged shot, and mitigate enough damage through strafing that they can survive the majority of the attacks into their armor and kill you. Gallente assaults can do this as well.

SCR is OP as hell until suddenly it isn't.

Oh god, another one of you degenerates crying over the SCR + Amarr Assault...who OHK'ed you this time?

Look, the SCR is an awesome weapon made even more awesome by the Amarr Assault, but the SCR is a weapon that only really shines in 1 v 1 fights.

1 v 1 I would venture that a good SCR user will win just about every time. The charge shot will take out a large chunk of health whereas the follow up shots will kill the target.

The SCR struggles in CQC and fights that are more than 1 v 1 thanks to the overheat mechanic. Yes, you may not believe it, but it is still easy to overheat the SCR even in an Amarr medium suit when you're panic firing at someone CQC, or trying to take out multiple enemies shooting back at you with their AR's, CR's, and RR's.

I really think that is the bit people fail to understand is that....

SCR - 1 v 1
RR - 1 v how ever many before you run out of ammo or killed
AR - ditto
CR - ditto

Yet people complain that "boo hoo BOO HOO, the SCR OHK'ed me and mopped the floor with my corpse!"

Pro tip - don't take on a SCR user alone...you're gonna lose every time.

The people who talk about it doing "79 damage per press of R1" better also be complaining about the CR as well, as it does 105 damage per press of R1 at the same tier (PRO for both before any damage mods). The CR fires at 1200 RPM, meaning the 3 shots in a single burst all come out of the barrel in 0.15 seconds. I doubt you're going to miss your target with any of those bullets if all three are coming out in so short a time.

The CR eats through ammo quicker, certainly, but do you know how many shots it has per clip? 18. The same amount an ScR has on a maxed lvl Amarr Assault suit if they don't use a charge shot. So the ScR can match the CR (somewhat) only when it's on it's on a single suit type, whereas the CR performs the same across all dropsuits. What about reload you say? Well base reload for the CR is 2.6 seconds. So if both an Amarr Assault ScR and an anything CR user fire all 18 shots, the ScR user gets 50 feedback damage and is unable to run, reload, or switch weapons for 5 seconds. The CR user can reload in half that time and start dealing damage again.

Just some more info to help you guys decide if the ScR is OP or not.

It's not wrong..


But amarr suit sucks with every other weapon.

Situational isn't it? I do have an ak0 suit with a nearly maxed lmperial and l do indeed get very good results with it, on some maps vs some opponents. I tried it in PC and it was close to useless, l mean fattys standing on 3 rep hives and l can push through with a CR or Duvolle, but not with an imperial. The hipfire also seems to fail completely when the framerate drops.

Its a very powerful and fun setup, but its weaknesses are many. Try and use it without damage mods and see for yourself. I tried a setup with only shields (you get about 440 on that suit) and either full armor tank , speed or dampeners, in short: they all sucked, l feel l need 2 damage mods to be the most effective. So it will be interresring to see what the changes to damage mods will mean. Will l only be able to boost its effectiveness vs shields? Or can l boost the guns effectiveness vs armor?

A Scr with its base damage vs shields and 2 mods boosting its armor damage and we can astart to talk about it being OP.

The only reason l specced into that combo is due to it not needing additional ammo, mostly. Its fun to play an assault suit with something else equipped than a damn nanohive...

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So your comment agrees that the user is the issue with this weapon cuz he cant hit a strafing target? Or that you agree cuz you can kill 75% of the suits on the field but the 25% you can't with this weapon has an incoming nerf next patch?

I'm only slightly confused cuz I never said anything about it being OP. Only stated that this weapon is extremely potent on first use and it has no limitations if its used within its ability.

Edit: in the state of damage mods and prof levels these threads hold no weight. just good old fashioned peanut gallery. No weapon has any damage decrease from weapon profiles. only a buff to its weakness and steroids to its strength. Good day.

Oh really the ScR struggles against multiple enemies? So does every other weapon in the game, With TTK as low as it is.......