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Alldin Kan
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Posted - 2014.02.14 18:12:00 -
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Prove me wrong.
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Alldin Kan
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Posted - 2014.02.14 18:32:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Oh god, another one of you degenerates crying over the SCR + Amarr Assault...who OHK'ed you this time?
Look, the SCR is an awesome weapon made even more awesome by the Amarr Assault, but the SCR is a weapon that only really shines in 1 v 1 fights.
1 v 1 I would venture that a good SCR user will win just about every time. The charge shot will take out a large chunk of health whereas the follow up shots will kill the target.
The SCR struggles in CQC and fights that are more than 1 v 1 thanks to the overheat mechanic. Yes, you may not believe it, but it is still easy to overheat the SCR even in an Amarr medium suit when you're panic firing at someone CQC, or trying to take out multiple enemies shooting back at you with their AR's, CR's, and RR's.
I really think that is the bit people fail to understand is that....
SCR - 1 v 1 RR - 1 v how ever many before you run out of ammo or killed AR - ditto CR - ditto
Yet people complain that "boo hoo BOO HOO, the SCR OHK'ed me and mopped the floor with my corpse!"
Pro tip - don't take on a SCR user alone...you're gonna lose every time. But... I AM THE SR USER!
I took on an entire team multiple times today and even melted heavies. On CQC this weapon is atrocious thanks to good accuracy, the only time RR will beat me is if the guy if hipfiring at medium range. On a Amarr suit it's actually hard to overheat the weapon as I usually need 5-8 shots (no charge used) to kill one guy, with charge shot I can still shoot multiple times or just switch to a proto SMG.
My best consecutive scores today:
38-2 49-7 50-2 I think I forgot another
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Alldin Kan
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Posted - 2014.02.14 18:54:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:So what if it is? It takes at least some skill to use, unlike the RR, and it hardly seems like a gamebreaking problem to me that if you skill up both a specific suit and a specific weapon up to proto (at the cost of what, 5 million SP?) to use the combination, it becomes extremely powerful. Isn't that kind of the point? Specialization and customization to optimize your chance of winning?
(p.s., as a logi with average gungame but every rifle to proto, I have no crutch to defend. I'm equally mediocre with all weapons) ^ Takes a lot of SP investment and you pigeon hole yourself into 1 weapon and 1 suit. As opposed to slapping a Kaalakiota RR on a MLT Heavy? Also, just because you stomp Pubs doesn't mean you have absolute, irrefutable proof of imbalance. Just means you went into a game and **** on newbs; anyone can do it, with any gun. Try you Assault ak.0 suit in a PC and tell me if you'd rather stick to your gallente suit, tank or python Gallente suits are an endangered species in PC with so many people using CR, RR or HMG. Tanks pop every now and then, so do dropships by rails. Don't get me started on how scouts get one shot by a SR.
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Alldin Kan
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Posted - 2014.02.14 18:56:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:You are the one making the claim, the burden of proof is on you. How about you "prove" its OP first? WAT YOU SAY BRA? YOU WANT TAKE ME ON IN A 1V1? JUST TELL ME WHERE AND LET'S DO IT D:
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Alldin Kan
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Posted - 2014.02.14 19:05:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Sure I'll give it a shot:
1) ScR is only OP with a turbo controller or way above average clicking speed (average being around 5 clicks per second). This would lead to less DPS than any other rifle, making it the only sub-400 rifle.
2) The overheating function is unique to the ScR, and can/does kill the user. This is a MAJOR drawback that prevents spamming it. This function nicely balances out the charge shot.
3) The fitting requirements are ridiculously high.
4) Actually the ScR is just plain bad on non-amarr assault suits. After 1 engagement, if you didn't overheat and die, you will overheat and die. Seriously, this weapon is borderline horrible on non-assault suits.
Question for the OP, did you mean to say the ScR is OP with turbo controllers on an amarr assault? If so, I agree, and the ScR needs only a RoF reduction to 400 RPM (max of 6.666 shots per second or around the same base DPS as the other rifles at max).
Oh, just to throw this out here:
The CR:
Does 50% more DPS than the other rifles Does 102.5% normalized damage Has insanely low fitting costs Never Overheats can kill suits in 4-6 shots rather than the 5-8 of your ScR experience, try it.
I can always tell when I die in my sentinel suit to a combat rifle because it happens way faster than to any other weapon. 1. Good trigger finger is free. 2. Not on Amarr Assault 3. Amarr Assault has huge CPU/PG, as downside suit has fat hitbox/slow speed (irrelevant at long range) 4. True
CR is the only close rival to SR.
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Alldin Kan
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Posted - 2014.02.15 16:04:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:So what? You're in the top 1% of the playerbase, good for you. I don't think games should ever be balanced around the top 1%. If you're really good at something, your performance should also be really good, not just balanced. Just because a few players can make some really effective use out of something doesn't mean that it is OP. Except I'm performing far better in the Assault AK.0 fit compared to the other ones I have.
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