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Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 563	Posted - 2014.02.11 13:37:00 - [1] - Quote "Oh yes, deploying a hotfix to help improve Matchmaking and unbalanced teams today. Bring on the feedback post-downtime!" Dust twitter Nuff Said
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 1014	Posted - 2014.02.11 13:38:00 - [2] - Quote So does anyone see improvement on this now it's deployed? Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 563	Posted - 2014.02.11 13:41:00 - [3] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: So does anyone see improvement on this now it's deployed? Wonderin the same thing Nuff Said
Deltahawk Durango Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 75	Posted - 2014.02.11 14:49:00 - [4] - Quote solo ambush: longer load times, balanced teams love it I don't believe in an eye for an eye... I believe in two eyes for an eye!
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 84	Posted - 2014.02.11 14:50:00 - [5] - Quote Yep, I am also curious. (Not in a position to play right now to check out myself)
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2488	Posted - 2014.02.11 14:50:00 - [6] - Quote Time will tell on this one Give me a basic lobby room instead Intelligence is OP
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 320	Posted - 2014.02.11 14:53:00 - [7] - Quote i would say this is a "BUG" fix, not an overhaul to matchmaking, since it says "bug fix". its probably a fix for, sometimes it would put a squad in a match vs zero players and never add any enemies.
Deltahawk Durango Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 76	Posted - 2014.02.11 15:06:00 - [8] - Quote pyramidhead 420 wrote: i would say this is a "BUG" fix, not an overhaul to matchmaking, since it says "bug fix". its probably a fix for, sometimes it would put a squad in a match vs zero players and never add any enemies. that's what i thought but every ambush i've done in the past hour hasn't had corpmates on either side and it takes a lot longer to load... usually i'm getting spawn camped by NS right now... I don't believe in an eye for an eye... I believe in two eyes for an eye!

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 1638	Posted - 2014.02.11 15:15:00 - [9] - Quote Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 563	Posted - 2014.02.11 15:34:00 - [10] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! Team in-balance, like stacking teams on one side and loners on the other type thing? Gonna be a bit before I check this out. Nuff Said

Oxskull Duncarino Tickle My Null-Sac 394	Posted - 2014.02.11 15:40:00 - [11] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! I've only played a few games so far and have had fun with full teams One issue that needs to be fixed though that has been around for a while, and happened to me in my very first game today, was getting deployed into a game on the losing side that is just about over, is over, resulting in no gain and my time wasted. My first game took me over 3 minutes of waiting to get in, with the result of just getting the option to spawn in as the battle ended. I got a grand total of 0 ISK and 0 SP for nearly 5 minutes of being messed about. If a side is below a certain percentage of MCC armour/clones in relation to the enemy side, combined with the enemy in control of a certain percentage of null cannons for skirmish, the game should be red flagged by the program to NOT deploy new players. As to where that control percentage is set should be able to be drawn from all the past game data that ye, CCP, have said ye have reams of. For people with limited time to play overall this is an infuriating issue that could very easily turn into the straw that broke the camel's back. I'm not one of those but even I have shut down the game when I've had two of these type of deployments back to back. YES, games need to be populated to as full an extent as possible for as much of their duration as possible, but, at a certain point it has to be admitted that fresh players being deployed WON'T help the battle situation. I understand that what ye did today was a deployment bug fix rather than a matchmaking tweak, and I see the issue I've described as being another(longtime) deployment bug that badly needs fixing.
Aisha Ctarl Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3252	Posted - 2014.02.11 15:43:00 - [12] - Quote Just played a match where the enemy team only had five players...also went against a stacked team, so far looks like no real change. I'm a narcissist, LIKE MY POSTS =^,.,^=
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 215	Posted - 2014.02.11 15:46:00 - [13] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! You get A thumbs up for trying no matter what. Thumbs up is a good thing, just in case this doesn't translate across cultures. Because, that's why.
Vee Abbey Three-body Solution 38	Posted - 2014.02.11 15:52:00 - [14] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! Played 4 matches 1 Stacked Nyan Chan/San against loners the result? STOMPED 2 Stacked Venezuela Corp against randoms the result? STOMPED 3 Stacked Acquisition LLC against randoms the result? .... 4 Stacked DUST brasil against randoms... guys I know failure is an option but you got Messing Up to Proficiency 10... specc into something else ffs edit My bad forgot to state; Every single match was against no less than 3 tanks and an ADS while AutoSpawn frequently would spawn me in front of a TANK who only had to constantly fire at the same spot to get kills, if you managed to run away there were bottom feeder red dots ready to tag you. Oh yeah good job on expanding the timer for ambush it's what the community has been asking for since uprising, good job much balance so CCP
Jenova Rhapsodos Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 214	Posted - 2014.02.11 16:05:00 - [15] - Quote Vee Abbey wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! Played 4 matches 1 Stacked Nyan Chan/San against loners the result? STOMPED 2 Stacked Venezuela Corp against randoms the result? STOMPED 3 Stacked Acquisition LLC against randoms the result? .... 4 Stacked DUST brasil against randoms... guys I know failure is an option but you got Messing Up to Proficiency 10... specc into something else ffs edit My bad forgot to state; Every single match was against no less than 3 tanks and an ADS while AutoSpawn frequently would spawn me in front of a TANK who only had to constantly fire at the same spot to get kills, if you managed to run away there were bottom feeder red dots ready to tag you. Oh yeah good job on expanding the timer for ambush it's what the community has been asking for since uprising, good job much balance so CCP Lol, get stomped bro. Anyway thanks for taking the time to post Saberwing <3 I'm sure matchmaking will improve with time, hopefully this hotfix was a step in the right direction.
Delta90212 Dust2Dust. Top Men. 244	Posted - 2014.02.11 16:07:00 - [16] - Quote Vee Abbey wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! Played 4 matches 1 Stacked Nyan Chan/San against loners the result? STOMPED 2 Stacked Venezuela Corp against randoms the result? STOMPED 3 Stacked Acquisition LLC against randoms the result? .... 4 Stacked DUST brasil against randoms... guys I know failure is an option but you got Messing Up to Proficiency 10... specc into something else ffs edit My bad forgot to state; Every single match was against no less than 3 tanks and an ADS while AutoSpawn frequently would spawn me in front of a TANK who only had to constantly fire at the same spot to get kills, if you managed to run away there were bottom feeder red dots ready to tag you. Oh yeah good job on expanding the timer for ambush it's what the community has been asking for since uprising, good job much balance so CCP You can't bugfix so that players won't tank spam Fear The Tribes / Standings Minmatar 5 / Gallente 5 / Pilot
Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 371	Posted - 2014.02.11 16:11:00 - [17] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! It's imbalance man. IMbalance. Neighborhood Bully prof 5 "Gimme yo lunch money"
Grimmiers 0uter.Heaven 409	Posted - 2014.02.11 16:11:00 - [18] - Quote @Vee I think the spawn system in ambush is currently broken making it harder to fight back after the first wave of spawns gets killed. Scanners can easily find the new spawn location that will keep spawning the entire team within a 50 meter radius until the match is essentially over. SoundCloud Recruiter Link Pronounced Grim-e-urs
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1798	Posted - 2014.02.11 16:12:00 - [19] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! Does that mean I won't lose 90% of my matches because it's my squad of 2-4 vs two 6-man squads? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1798	Posted - 2014.02.11 16:13:00 - [20] - Quote Delta90212 wrote: Vee Abbey wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! Played 4 matches 1 Stacked Nyan Chan/San against loners the result? STOMPED 2 Stacked Venezuela Corp against randoms the result? STOMPED 3 Stacked Acquisition LLC against randoms the result? .... 4 Stacked DUST brasil against randoms... guys I know failure is an option but you got Messing Up to Proficiency 10... specc into something else ffs edit My bad forgot to state; Every single match was against no less than 3 tanks and an ADS while AutoSpawn frequently would spawn me in front of a TANK who only had to constantly fire at the same spot to get kills, if you managed to run away there were bottom feeder red dots ready to tag you. Oh yeah good job on expanding the timer for ambush it's what the community has been asking for since uprising, good job much balance so CCP You can't bugfix so that players won't tank spam MLT tanks are a flavor of the month, and they must be nerfed into the ground. Cal logis and Duvolle TARs were the flavor of the month a long time ago, but infantry didn't want anything done to those. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim

Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6786	Posted - 2014.02.11 16:14:00 - [21] - Quote Judging from the posts here, it doesn't look like it did much to fix the problem. Well, at least CCP tried. This sounds like something that's far too deep for a simple bug fix to address. This might need a complete overhaul. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1754	Posted - 2014.02.11 16:15:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! So far it didn't do anything in FW. But that was to be expected. So basically I'm just wondering how you intend to fix the one sided FW battles. I mean the problem here is basically that too many good players play for Gallente. So they need a reason to fight for Caldari. Same for Minmatar / Amarr. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1180	Posted - 2014.02.11 16:16:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! If you have two squads and then the matchmaker puts them on opposite sides instead of the same team... we might be getting somewhere.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1180	Posted - 2014.02.11 16:18:00 - [24] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! So far it didn't do anything in FW. But that was to be expected. So basically I'm just wondering how you intend to fix the one sided FW battles. I mean the problem here is basically that too many good players play for Gallente. So they need a reason to fight for Caldari. Same for Minmatar / Amarr. There is no fixing one sided FW battles actively... You improve the loot the LP store offers to try and entice some people but thats about all you can do. FW is setup like a kiddie sandbox with hard set limits. Want your races FW to be better? One thing CCp does give us is alot of Social tools to organize a good FW channel and start recruiting merc's from pub's into it.
Delta90212 Dust2Dust. Top Men. 245	Posted - 2014.02.11 16:23:00 - [25] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Delta90212 wrote: Vee Abbey wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! Played 4 matches 1 Stacked Nyan Chan/San against loners the result? STOMPED 2 Stacked Venezuela Corp against randoms the result? STOMPED 3 Stacked Acquisition LLC against randoms the result? .... 4 Stacked DUST brasil against randoms... guys I know failure is an option but you got Messing Up to Proficiency 10... specc into something else ffs edit My bad forgot to state; Every single match was against no less than 3 tanks and an ADS while AutoSpawn frequently would spawn me in front of a TANK who only had to constantly fire at the same spot to get kills, if you managed to run away there were bottom feeder red dots ready to tag you. Oh yeah good job on expanding the timer for ambush it's what the community has been asking for since uprising, good job much balance so CCP You can't bugfix so that players won't tank spam MLT tanks are a flavor of the month, and they must be nerfed into the ground. Cal logis and Duvolle TARs were the flavor of the month a long time ago, but infantry didn't want anything done to those. I'm not denying that MLT tanks are 1/2 of the problem. It's just you can't bugfix to force players not to tank spam/proto stomp its gonna happen anyway Fear The Tribes / Standings Minmatar 5 / Gallente 5 / Pilot
Deltahawk Durango Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 78	Posted - 2014.02.11 16:30:00 - [26] - Quote Vee Abbey wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! Played 4 matches 1 Stacked Nyan Chan/San against loners the result? STOMPED 2 Stacked Venezuela Corp against randoms the result? STOMPED 3 Stacked Acquisition LLC against randoms the result? .... 4 Stacked DUST brasil against randoms... guys I know failure is an option but you got Messing Up to Proficiency 10... specc into something else ffs edit My bad forgot to state; Every single match was against no less than 3 tanks and an ADS while AutoSpawn frequently would spawn me in front of a TANK who only had to constantly fire at the same spot to get kills, if you managed to run away there were bottom feeder red dots ready to tag you. Oh yeah good job on expanding the timer for ambush it's what the community has been asking for since uprising, good job much balance so CCP stop trying to be clever with proficiency puns when ur trolling proficiency skill is 0...i've been running ambush solo all morning and have seen the corps u listed on opposite sides... and in at least 75% of the matches, the clone count for winning teams was below 75% of the starting count... i don't know if i'm just getting really lucky here but these close battles is worth the wait for me... i'm gonna miss the empty battles though... i was getting paid 200k isk to absolutely suck at flying gorgons for 15 mins... I don't believe in an eye for an eye... I believe in two eyes for an eye!
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1439	Posted - 2014.02.11 16:33:00 - [27] - Quote The problem is you're all trying to play Nyaintankspambush. Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
Oxskull Duncarino Tickle My Null-Sac 399	Posted - 2014.02.11 16:36:00 - [28] - Quote People seem to be missing the point here. I know the original post about downtime today said that it was a fix to matchmaking, but what CCP Saberwing has posted in this thread is to agree with the fact that it is a fix to a deployment issue not matchmaking. It didn't fix stacked squads of high SP players vs a team of low SP solo players etc., but it did attempt to fix the issue of being deployed with just a couple of players at the start of a game against a full enemy team, and NEVER getting any reinforcements to fill out your squad for the rest of the game. It's baby steps but I'll take it. Any progress is good progress and all that jazz
Oxskull Duncarino Tickle My Null-Sac 399	Posted - 2014.02.11 16:39:00 - [29] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: The problem is you're all trying to play Nyaintankspambush. Lol, this is so true. These days I mainly play Skirmish with an odd game of Domination, and only play an extremely rare game of Ambush when I'm drunk with someone else as squad leader, and I find matchmaking in general in the first two to be fairly good.
Mortedeamor 1372	Posted - 2014.02.11 16:58:00 - [30] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! was running ina 2 man dropship squad locked 2 matches we went into with only one other squad of 2 qued with 12 randoms vs 2 full squads with 4 randoms...i dont call that balance more-tae-dee-um-more stop asking how to pronounce my name its quite irritating no one fights on even ground

Vespasian Andendare Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 574	Posted - 2014.02.11 16:59:00 - [31] - Quote Deltahawk Durango wrote: solo ambush: longer load times, balanced teams love it I hope its to fix the "bug" where matchmaking puts two full proto-geared squads on one side vs all lone wolves on the other. Why doesn't MM put balanced squads on either side? /wonders >> Play Dust 514 FREE! Sign up for exclusive gear today! <<
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 536	Posted - 2014.02.11 17:01:00 - [32] - Quote I don't think randoms should be penalized for joining a game i am in. I am pitted against 2+ squads everytime I enter battle. It has been this way forever. Who wants some?
Jenova Rhapsodos Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 214	Posted - 2014.02.11 17:02:00 - [33] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! So far it didn't do anything in FW. But that was to be expected. So basically I'm just wondering how you intend to fix the one sided FW battles. I mean the problem here is basically that too many good players play for Gallente. So they need a reason to fight for Caldari. Same for Minmatar / Amarr. Well when 1.8 drops it seems LP uplinks will be significantly better than ISK Proto links, this may incentivise more PC players to play for the Amarr. That's something at least :)
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 536	Posted - 2014.02.11 17:03:00 - [34] - Quote Vespasian Andendare wrote: Deltahawk Durango wrote: solo ambush: longer load times, balanced teams love it I hope its to fix the "bug" where matchmaking puts two full proto-geared squads on one side vs all lone wolves on the other. Why doesn't MM put balanced squads on either side? /wonders Ccp can't get it thru their thick skulls that this needs to be implemented. Who wants some?
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 217	Posted - 2014.02.11 17:06:00 - [35] - Quote Jenova Rhapsodos wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! So far it didn't do anything in FW. But that was to be expected. So basically I'm just wondering how you intend to fix the one sided FW battles. I mean the problem here is basically that too many good players play for Gallente. So they need a reason to fight for Caldari. Same for Minmatar / Amarr. Well when 1.8 drops it seems LP uplinks will be significantly better than ISK Proto links, this may incentivise more PC players to play for the Amarr. That's something at least :) I think FW is all about the loot. Because, that's why.
Ander Thedas Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 274	Posted - 2014.02.11 17:47:00 - [36] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! So far it didn't do anything in FW. But that was to be expected. So basically I'm just wondering how you intend to fix the one sided FW battles. I mean the problem here is basically that too many good players play for Gallente. So they need a reason to fight for Caldari. Same for Minmatar / Amarr. There is no fixing one sided FW battles actively... You improve the loot the LP store offers to try and entice some people but thats about all you can do. FW is setup like a kiddie sandbox with hard set limits. Want your races FW to be better? One thing CCp does give us is alot of Social tools to organize a good FW channel and start recruiting merc's from pub's into it. I've got a fix for it. Take all players with all 4 faction warfare boxes checked and turn off all factions besides their starting race. If they didn't pick their factions themselves then they automatically get selected to fight fit their starting race until they pick a side. Bam, FW noobies are evenly spread, and teams are balanced.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 1926	Posted - 2014.02.11 17:52:00 - [37] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Delta90212 wrote: Vee Abbey wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! Played 4 matches 1 Stacked Nyan Chan/San against loners the result? STOMPED 2 Stacked Venezuela Corp against randoms the result? STOMPED 3 Stacked Acquisition LLC against randoms the result? .... 4 Stacked DUST brasil against randoms... guys I know failure is an option but you got Messing Up to Proficiency 10... specc into something else ffs edit My bad forgot to state; Every single match was against no less than 3 tanks and an ADS while AutoSpawn frequently would spawn me in front of a TANK who only had to constantly fire at the same spot to get kills, if you managed to run away there were bottom feeder red dots ready to tag you. Oh yeah good job on expanding the timer for ambush it's what the community has been asking for since uprising, good job much balance so CCP You can't bugfix so that players won't tank spam MLT tanks are a flavor of the month, and they must be nerfed into the ground. Cal logis and Duvolle TARs were the flavor of the month a long time ago, but infantry didn't want anything done to those. No spkr MLT aren't flavour of the Month, tanks in general are flavour of the month. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1756	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:01:00 - [38] - Quote Ander Thedas wrote: Bethhy wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! So far it didn't do anything in FW. But that was to be expected. So basically I'm just wondering how you intend to fix the one sided FW battles. I mean the problem here is basically that too many good players play for Gallente. So they need a reason to fight for Caldari. Same for Minmatar / Amarr. There is no fixing one sided FW battles actively... You improve the loot the LP store offers to try and entice some people but thats about all you can do. FW is setup like a kiddie sandbox with hard set limits. Want your races FW to be better? One thing CCp does give us is alot of Social tools to organize a good FW channel and start recruiting merc's from pub's into it. I've got a fix for it. Take all players with all 4 faction warfare boxes checked and turn off all factions besides their starting race. If they didn't pick their factions themselves then they automatically get selected to fight fit their starting race until they pick a side. Bam, FW noobies are evenly spread, and teams are balanced. Would be a start. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 760	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:03:00 - [39] - Quote Oxskull Duncarino wrote: People seem to be missing the point here. I know the original post about downtime today said that it was a fix to matchmaking, but what CCP Saberwing has posted in this thread is to agree with the fact that it is a fix to a deployment issue not matchmaking. It didn't fix stacked squads of high SP players vs a team of low SP solo players etc., but it did attempt to fix the issue of being deployed with just a couple of players at the start of a game against a full enemy team, and NEVER getting any reinforcements to fill out your team for the rest of the game. It's baby steps but I'll take it. Any progress is good progress and all that jazz Well he also asked if the matches were balanced so nobody is missing the point. Support Orbital Spawns
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 467	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:04:00 - [40] - Quote Ander Thedas wrote: Bethhy wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! So far it didn't do anything in FW. But that was to be expected. So basically I'm just wondering how you intend to fix the one sided FW battles. I mean the problem here is basically that too many good players play for Gallente. So they need a reason to fight for Caldari. Same for Minmatar / Amarr. There is no fixing one sided FW battles actively... You improve the loot the LP store offers to try and entice some people but thats about all you can do. FW is setup like a kiddie sandbox with hard set limits. Want your races FW to be better? One thing CCp does give us is alot of Social tools to organize a good FW channel and start recruiting merc's from pub's into it. I've got a fix for it. Take all players with all 4 faction warfare boxes checked and turn off all factions besides their starting race. If they didn't pick their factions themselves then they automatically get selected to fight fit their starting race until they pick a side. Bam, FW noobies are evenly spread, and teams are balanced. Nice idea, I hope CCP does this. I figured this was an issue as well but hadn't really thought about a simple fix like that. If you select all 4 factions (the default) you always end up fighting for the least popular sides (Caldari & Amarr). Please fix the mic bubble bug...

Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2506	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:05:00 - [41] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Delta90212 wrote: Vee Abbey wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! Played 4 matches 1 Stacked Nyan Chan/San against loners the result? STOMPED 2 Stacked Venezuela Corp against randoms the result? STOMPED 3 Stacked Acquisition LLC against randoms the result? .... 4 Stacked DUST brasil against randoms... guys I know failure is an option but you got Messing Up to Proficiency 10... specc into something else ffs edit My bad forgot to state; Every single match was against no less than 3 tanks and an ADS while AutoSpawn frequently would spawn me in front of a TANK who only had to constantly fire at the same spot to get kills, if you managed to run away there were bottom feeder red dots ready to tag you. Oh yeah good job on expanding the timer for ambush it's what the community has been asking for since uprising, good job much balance so CCP You can't bugfix so that players won't tank spam MLT tanks are a flavor of the month, and they must be nerfed into the ground. Cal logis and Duvolle TARs were the flavor of the month a long time ago, but infantry didn't want anything done to those. No spkr MLT aren't flavour of the Month, tanks in general are flavour of the month. 20mil SP vehicle is FOTM lolno Intelligence is OP
Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 760	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:16:00 - [42] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: No spkr MLT aren't flavour of the Month, tanks in general are flavour of the month. 20mil SP vehicle is FOTM lolno It doesn't take 20 mil sp to roll around in a madruger or gunlogi. Support Orbital Spawns
Ander Thedas Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 276	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:17:00 - [43] - Quote Ares 514 wrote: Ander Thedas wrote: Bethhy wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! So far it didn't do anything in FW. But that was to be expected. So basically I'm just wondering how you intend to fix the one sided FW battles. I mean the problem here is basically that too many good players play for Gallente. So they need a reason to fight for Caldari. Same for Minmatar / Amarr. There is no fixing one sided FW battles actively... You improve the loot the LP store offers to try and entice some people but thats about all you can do. FW is setup like a kiddie sandbox with hard set limits. Want your races FW to be better? One thing CCp does give us is alot of Social tools to organize a good FW channel and start recruiting merc's from pub's into it. I've got a fix for it. Take all players with all 4 faction warfare boxes checked and turn off all factions besides their starting race. If they didn't pick their factions themselves then they automatically get selected to fight fit their starting race until they pick a side. Bam, FW noobies are evenly spread, and teams are balanced. Nice idea, I hope CCP does this. I figured this was an issue as well but hadn't really thought about a simple fix like that. If you select all 4 factions (the default) you always end up fighting for the least popular sides (Caldari & Amarr). Why thank you. It was an idea I had a few weeks ago that seemed super obvious to me. I honestly never posted it because I was under the impression someone else must have brought this up as an option by now. I suppose it never happened. A few other of my fairly simple and easy to implement ideas that would bring a lot to the game: Getting to faction warfare level 10 grants to citizenship: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1622124 Make the MCC mobile again and make the red line move with it to give red line issues change dynamically across the match: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1815161
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2506	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:31:00 - [44] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: No spkr MLT aren't flavour of the Month, tanks in general are flavour of the month. 20mil SP vehicle is FOTM lolno It doesn't take 20 mil sp to roll around in a madruger or gunlogi. No your right You will just have **** skills and half a tank which will get hammered by me or even a mlt tank or AV Intelligence is OP
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES Legacy Rising 600	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:32:00 - [45] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! Balanced in the sense that the numbers seem to be a lot more even, at least in ambush. Not EVEN teams in the sense of SP or capability. Duna still being a scrub with his squad of unkillable tanks (Well virtually unkillable) proto stomp squads too but yea its better CCP so thanks for that. Any improvements no matter how small are welcome. BTW I found a nice little trick to **** off Duna, or at least make myself feel 'special'. If he is on your side ruining the game, follow him in an LAV. When he jumps out to call an orbital, steal his tank and proceed to drive it into the red line for destruction purposes. I got at least 2 or 3 of his tanks this way. May I be the proverbial thorn in his side! CCP can we get friendly fire in ambush please? I wanna kill that guy (In game of course)
Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 760	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:46:00 - [46] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: No spkr MLT aren't flavour of the Month, tanks in general are flavour of the month. 20mil SP vehicle is FOTM lolno It doesn't take 20 mil sp to roll around in a madruger or gunlogi. No your right You will just have **** skills and half a tank which will get hammered by me or even a mlt tank or AV Well it's no worse than being in a militia tank and offers the chance to put together a slightly better fit at a marginal price increase and it's easy enough to get into that most of these fotm tankers have probably already skilled into it and only use the militia tanks because they aren't much less effective. Here's the point though, it doesn't take much to get into the std tanks and after they nerf militia tanks those that don't already have the skills for it will get them and then you and Spkr will be on the forums constantly complaining about triple damage modded gunlogi's and at the same time you guys will boast about how easy they are to kill. Support Orbital Spawns
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 566	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:50:00 - [47] - Quote Seems some say it's better, some say no change. Can we get some clarification on what exactly it was you changed, that should result in better matchmaking? Still need to check it out, tonight at peak time. Nuff Said
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 467	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:51:00 - [48] - Quote Ander Thedas wrote: Ares 514 wrote: Ander Thedas wrote: Bethhy wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: So far it didn't do anything in FW. But that was to be expected. So basically I'm just wondering how you intend to fix the one sided FW battles. I mean the problem here is basically that too many good players play for Gallente. So they need a reason to fight for Caldari. Same for Minmatar / Amarr. There is no fixing one sided FW battles actively... You improve the loot the LP store offers to try and entice some people but thats about all you can do. FW is setup like a kiddie sandbox with hard set limits. Want your races FW to be better? One thing CCp does give us is alot of Social tools to organize a good FW channel and start recruiting merc's from pub's into it. I've got a fix for it. Take all players with all 4 faction warfare boxes checked and turn off all factions besides their starting race. If they didn't pick their factions themselves then they automatically get selected to fight fit their starting race until they pick a side. Bam, FW noobies are evenly spread, and teams are balanced. Nice idea, I hope CCP does this. I figured this was an issue as well but hadn't really thought about a simple fix like that. If you select all 4 factions (the default) you always end up fighting for the least popular sides (Caldari & Amarr). Why thank you. It was an idea I had a few weeks ago that seemed super obvious to me. I honestly never posted it because I was under the impression someone else must have brought this up as an option by now. I suppose it never happened. A few other of my fairly simple and easy to implement ideas that would bring a lot to the game: Getting to faction warfare level 10 grants to citizenship: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1622124 Make the MCC mobile again and make the red line move with it to give red line issues change dynamically across the match: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1815161 You should put it in the suggestions / feedback so they have some chance of noticing it. Such a small tweak but that could make a big difference IMO. Please fix the mic bubble bug...
Stinker Butt Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 354	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:55:00 - [49] - Quote It takes a lot longer to search for battle, but the teams are full. I guess that's good. I still deploy into a battle that's almost over at times. Please give tanks some balance
Ander Thedas Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 277	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:56:00 - [50] - Quote Ares 514 wrote: Ander Thedas wrote: Ares 514 wrote: Ander Thedas wrote: I've got a fix for it. Take all players with all 4 faction warfare boxes checked and turn off all factions besides their starting race. If they didn't pick their factions themselves then they automatically get selected to fight fit their starting race until they pick a side. Bam, FW noobies are evenly spread, and teams are balanced. Nice idea, I hope CCP does this. I figured this was an issue as well but hadn't really thought about a simple fix like that. If you select all 4 factions (the default) you always end up fighting for the least popular sides (Caldari & Amarr). Why thank you. It was an idea I had a few weeks ago that seemed super obvious to me. I honestly never posted it because I was under the impression someone else must have brought this up as an option by now. I suppose it never happened. A few other of my fairly simple and easy to implement ideas that would bring a lot to the game: Getting to faction warfare level 10 grants to citizenship: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1622124 Make the MCC mobile again and make the red line move with it to give red line issues change dynamically across the match: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1815161 You should put it in the suggestions / feedback so they have some chance of noticing it. Such a small tweak but that could make a big difference IMO. Just did, actually!

Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 761	Posted - 2014.02.11 19:06:00 - [51] - Quote Ander Thedas wrote: Ares 514 wrote: Ander Thedas wrote: Ares 514 wrote: Ander Thedas wrote: I've got a fix for it. Take all players with all 4 faction warfare boxes checked and turn off all factions besides their starting race. If they didn't pick their factions themselves then they automatically get selected to fight fit their starting race until they pick a side. Bam, FW noobies are evenly spread, and teams are balanced. Nice idea, I hope CCP does this. I figured this was an issue as well but hadn't really thought about a simple fix like that. If you select all 4 factions (the default) you always end up fighting for the least popular sides (Caldari & Amarr). Why thank you. It was an idea I had a few weeks ago that seemed super obvious to me. I honestly never posted it because I was under the impression someone else must have brought this up as an option by now. I suppose it never happened. A few other of my fairly simple and easy to implement ideas that would bring a lot to the game: Getting to faction warfare level 10 grants to citizenship: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1622124 Make the MCC mobile again and make the red line move with it to give red line issues change dynamically across the match: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1815161 You should put it in the suggestions / feedback so they have some chance of noticing it. Such a small tweak but that could make a big difference IMO. Just did, actually! Should also put a link to the idea you like best or alternate them in your signature like I did with mine. It doesn't take long for things to getting buried in there. Support Orbital Spawns
Nirwanda Vaughns 330	Posted - 2014.02.11 19:07:00 - [52] - Quote fired up my 1.2m sp alt and tested this out. Automatic server selection 1st game. Tank rolling proto stompin Nyain 2nd game Tank rolling proto stompin Rainbow Effect 3rd game Proto stompin fatal absolution my verdict. you aint hotfixed jack s*** Proto and proud!!
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 273	Posted - 2014.02.11 19:11:00 - [53] - Quote Is this fixing balance Number wise or SP wise? DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Ander Thedas Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 279	Posted - 2014.02.11 19:56:00 - [54] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Ander Thedas wrote: Ares 514 wrote: Ander Thedas wrote: Ares 514 wrote: Nice idea, I hope CCP does this. I figured this was an issue as well but hadn't really thought about a simple fix like that. If you select all 4 factions (the default) you always end up fighting for the least popular sides (Caldari & Amarr). Why thank you. It was an idea I had a few weeks ago that seemed super obvious to me. I honestly never posted it because I was under the impression someone else must have brought this up as an option by now. I suppose it never happened. A few other of my fairly simple and easy to implement ideas that would bring a lot to the game: Getting to faction warfare level 10 grants to citizenship: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1622124 Make the MCC mobile again and make the red line move with it to give red line issues change dynamically across the match: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1815161 You should put it in the suggestions / feedback so they have some chance of noticing it. Such a small tweak but that could make a big difference IMO. Just did, actually! Should also put a link to the idea you like best or alternate them in your signature like I did with mine. It doesn't take long for things to getting buried in there. That took every bit of editing in me to get it down to the exact number of characters allowed, but tada. Thanks for the idea! FW lvl10 reward Mobile Redlines Default FWRace
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2292	Posted - 2014.02.11 20:05:00 - [55] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=141574&find=unread This is what the community wants. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 1601	Posted - 2014.02.11 20:32:00 - [56] - Quote I would like to say everything is fine now, but i can't. I've tried the game with different characters with different SP, alone, in squad of 3, in squad of 6, the matchmaking is the same imo. Some match are unplayable for me, some other for the other team. 1.8 it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes...
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1827	Posted - 2014.02.11 20:50:00 - [57] - Quote War = Chaos. Embrace that fact. I don't think our wars should be orderly-fashioned conflicts. Balanced, equal and bland fights are unappealing to me. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Magnus Amadeuss Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 444	Posted - 2014.02.11 22:36:00 - [58] - Quote I would like to report absolutely no change in matchmaking on my end. Still getting 2-3 squads on one side versus a bunch of randoms on another. While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
toasterwaffles THE IMMORTAL L3GI0N 19	Posted - 2014.02.11 23:11:00 - [59] - Quote I've finally figured it out! The way to make teams even is by creating certain game servers ,such as American, Oceania, etc..., that are named basic, advanced, prototype, and militia. And you can only use that level gear or lower on those specific servers. This would forever make teams more even! Check out our site
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 542	Posted - 2014.02.11 23:39:00 - [60] - Quote Figured it was too good to be true, judging by the responses it fell short. If they fixed the 2 vs.16 that's a good step forward but not the only problem. Squads vs randoms is still the bigger problem and one I'll keep railing against until it's fixed. CCP your matchmaking sucks Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles

Ninja Troll 24	Posted - 2014.02.11 23:40:00 - [61] - Quote toasterwaffles wrote: I've finally figured it out! The way to make teams even is by creating certain game servers ,such as American, Oceania, etc..., that are named basic, advanced, prototype, and militia. And you can only use that level gear or lower on those specific servers. This would forever make teams more even! It would need to be SP based, since a user with level 5 in most skills is just as lethal in militia gear. [REQ] Infantry Only Mode or Option- No Vehicles
Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 113	Posted - 2014.02.11 23:50:00 - [62] - Quote first game went 41 / 7 does that sound ballanced??? Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for, welcome to New Eden. KAMEHAMEHA professional Heavy for hire
Captain Crutches Nexus Marines 51	Posted - 2014.02.12 00:59:00 - [63] - Quote I'd kinda like to know what sort of algorithm CCP is using right now. I mean, if they're not telling us because they're worried about people copying it, that probably wouldn't be a concern since it's clearly awful... Even a simple statement like "we try to use X, Y, and Z as factors in matchmaking" or the more likely "we don't use any factors, we just slap people in anywhere" would be good to know. In War Thunder, if you hover over the little "searching for match" icon, it openly tells you that they take into account what tier of planes you have selected, your efficiency with those planes, and I think one other thing that I can't remember. Dust could learn something from that... I think they'd want to use something like total SP, total WP, and overall KDR to match people up. Maybe if they have access to data like a character's most used loadouts and think they can use that somehow, that could work too. Also obviously balancing squads to try and have the same number of squads on each team, whether that's 0, 1, 2, or more if matches get bigger. Yes, it would take longer to find a match, but I'd gladly wait a minute or more to get put into a good match than wait 10 seconds to get put in a stomp. And if matchmaking improves, the game becomes more fun, so more people play, so it becomes easier to create matches from a larger player pool. And did I mention the game becomes more fun? Anti-Respec \| Anti-Protostomp \| Anti-"Slayer Logi" \| Pro-Tiericide \| Pro-EVE/Dust Link \| Pro-CCP Winning > KDR
toasterwaffles THE IMMORTAL L3GI0N 20	Posted - 2014.02.12 01:15:00 - [64] - Quote Ninja Troll wrote: toasterwaffles wrote: I've finally figured it out! The way to make teams even is by creating certain game servers ,such as American, Oceania, etc..., that are named basic, advanced, prototype, and militia. And you can only use that level gear or lower on those specific servers. This would forever make teams more even! It would need to be SP based, since a user with level 5 in most skills is just as lethal in militia gear. My solution would be the cure of proto stomping Check out our site
The Terminator T-1000 Skynet Incorporated 103	Posted - 2014.02.12 01:17:00 - [65] - Quote it takes longer to deploy :(
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 4949	Posted - 2014.02.12 01:25:00 - [66] - Quote Jenova Rhapsodos wrote: Lol, get stomped bro. Anyway thanks for taking the time to post Saberwing <3 I'm sure matchmaking will improve with time, hopefully this hotfix was a step in the right direction. Jenova, I'm sure you were stomping him in every one of those matches :P > GÇ£I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.GÇ¥ -Oscar Wilde
Havaru Fox Golden Empire of EvE 10	Posted - 2014.02.12 01:32:00 - [67] - Quote why not use the KDR to make teams? P1 has 0,5 P2 has 1,5 P3 has 2 P4 has 3 P5 has 2 P6 has 0,5 P7 has 1 P8 has 1,5 over all 12 Team 1 are P1,P2,P3 and P5 makes it 6 Team 2 P4,P6,P7 and P8 makes it also 6 why this? people with awesome KDR would face people who are also "awesome". so if you get a full 6er with a KDR of 6 per player, then the system would give them a hand full of noobs. you want a full 16 people fight withpout bad players on your team? then fix district locking, because i'm bored of getting overrunned by a proto 6er! << Support the EvE League>>
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 2154	Posted - 2014.02.12 01:50:00 - [68] - Quote Ander Thedas wrote: Ares 514 wrote: Ander Thedas wrote: Bethhy wrote: [quote=Aikuchi Tomaru So far it didn't do anything in FW. But that was to be expected. So basically I'm just wondering how you intend to fix the one sided FW battles. I mean the problem here is basically that too many good players play for Gallente. So they need a reason to fight for Caldari. Same for Minmatar / Amarr. There is no fixing one sided FW battles actively... You improve the loot the LP store offers to try and entice some people but thats about all you can do. FW is setup like a kiddie sandbox with hard set limits. Want your races FW to be better? One thing CCp does give us is alot of Social tools to organize a good FW channel and start recruiting merc's from pub's into it. I've got a fix for it. Take all players with all 4 faction warfare boxes checked and turn off all factions besides their starting race. If they didn't pick their factions themselves then they automatically get selected to fight fit their starting race until they pick a side. Bam, FW noobies are evenly spread, and teams are balanced. Nice idea, I hope CCP does this. I figured this was an issue as well but hadn't really thought about a simple fix like that. If you select all 4 factions (the default) you always end up fighting for the least popular sides (Caldari & Amarr). Why thank you. It was an idea I had a few weeks ago that seemed super obvious to me. I honestly never posted it because I was under the impression someone else must have brought this up as an option by now. I suppose it never happened. A few other of my fairly simple and easy to implement ideas that would bring a lot to the game: Getting to faction warfare level 10 grants to citizenship: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1622124 Make the MCC mobile again and make the red line move with it to give red line issues change dynamically across the match: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1815161[/quote] Yeah this is a good point. Or at least force players to sign up and fight for one faction. WTF why do we need to move around? The matches are unbalanced becuase randoms take up the side with less god players that's silly. Or at least limit it so if you fight for ammar you can only fight for caldari or ammar. Cutting it in half should limit it down and create more balanced matches. Also the fights over districts right now nothing changes, this is partly becuase randoms fighting each other, where each match they are on a new faction. Also please limit the planets we fight on to the border systems of FW to make our role more obvious and all the fancy graphs you put in the game can serve a purpose.

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 1667	Posted - 2014.02.12 02:18:00 - [69] - Quote Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: Is this fixing balance Number wise or SP wise? Number-wise. We haven't made changes to SP/fit matchmaking (although that is also something we want to improve). We've found a mistake in the logic in the way that it was assigning squads to teams - that should now be improved. So - the general consensus seems to be longer queue times, but full matches, amirite? CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1741	Posted - 2014.02.12 02:46:00 - [70] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! Holy Jesus, A MMing fix that people are saying actually work? I'll BRB, just flipping the PS3 Back on. DUST is a half decent game. Be happy its free.

Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1763	Posted - 2014.02.12 04:05:00 - [71] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: Also please limit the planets we fight on to the border systems of FW to make our role more obvious and all the fancy graphs you put in the game can serve a purpose. Hell no. The game doesn't need another step backwards. I am also not eager flying into gatecampsystems to provide ob support. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
LEHON Xeon Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 208	Posted - 2014.02.12 04:16:00 - [72] - Quote I saw ZERO fix to the problem. I went into several domination matches with just one friend of mine in my squad. The entire other side was all fully squadded people from decent corps while my entire side were 90% NPC corp scrubs. Happened in consecutive matches. Plus before my friend joined me, he ran with another couple guys and all of their matches were up against full q-synced teams. It's a trap! In this patch we can't repel firepower of that magnitude! - Admiral Ackbar would say in ambush w Nyain San
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2932	Posted - 2014.02.12 04:19:00 - [73] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! So far it didn't do anything in FW. But that was to be expected. So basically I'm just wondering how you intend to fix the one sided FW battles. I mean the problem here is basically that too many good players play for Gallente. So they need a reason to fight for Caldari. Same for Minmatar / Amarr. FW battles are supposed to be one sided the majority of the time. Matchmaking should not ever fix that. The players have to fix that. If they don't, it defeats the entire purpose. CCP Saberwing wrote: Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: Is this fixing balance Number wise or SP wise? Number-wise. We haven't made changes to SP/fit matchmaking (although that is also something we want to improve). We've found a mistake in the logic in the way that it was assigning squads to teams - that should now be improved. So - the general consensus seems to be longer queue times, but full matches, amirite? I'm more than willing to wait a while for a game if I know it's going to be a good one. I'm NOT willing to subject myself to constant one-sided pubstomps though. Regardless of which side i'm on. It's either frustrating beyond belief, or entirely boring. People in general are usually willing to be patient if the experience is a good one, and most of them right now are simply bad.
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES Legacy Rising 610	Posted - 2014.02.12 04:43:00 - [74] - Quote After more use of the system today, I can say that in all honesty the only thing I really noticed was that it takes longer to get into battles when waiting at the battle finder. The teams so far have seemed to be sort of even but then that could be down to luck.
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES Legacy Rising 610	Posted - 2014.02.12 04:45:00 - [75] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: Is this fixing balance Number wise or SP wise? Number-wise. We haven't made changes to SP/fit matchmaking (although that is also something we want to improve). We've found a mistake in the logic in the way that it was assigning squads to teams - that should now be improved. So - the general consensus seems to be longer queue times, but full matches, amirite? Humm, give us another day or two of testing this out. I am not 100% convinced but as a preliminary report - I would say possibly so yes.
m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 352	Posted - 2014.02.12 04:49:00 - [76] - Quote Haven't noticed much of a difference. Still seeing a lot of games filled with no squad blueberries and stacked teams either way. Was in one good match where both teams had two full squads, but that was 1 out of 12 matches played. Never mind, should have read the full thread first. Apparently it was only to fix empty matches. As the popular CCP phrase goes... I suppose this is "working as intended."

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 1682	Posted - 2014.02.12 05:12:00 - [77] - Quote m twiggz wrote: Haven't noticed much of a difference. Still seeing a lot of games filled with no squad blueberries and stacked teams either way. Was in one good match where both teams had two full squads, but that was 1 out of 12 matches played. Never mind, should have read the full thread first. Apparently it was only to fix empty matches. As the popular CCP phrase goes... I suppose this is "working as intended." Yep, as mentioned this fix should address unbalanced team numbers - not necessarily skill or gear imbalances. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 9060	Posted - 2014.02.12 05:15:00 - [78] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: m twiggz wrote: Haven't noticed much of a difference. Still seeing a lot of games filled with no squad blueberries and stacked teams either way. Was in one good match where both teams had two full squads, but that was 1 out of 12 matches played. Never mind, should have read the full thread first. Apparently it was only to fix empty matches. As the popular CCP phrase goes... I suppose this is "working as intended." Yep, as mentioned this fix should address unbalanced team numbers - not necessarily skill or gear imbalances. Are you guys going to address the issue of being thrown in ending battles? Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 487	Posted - 2014.02.12 05:20:00 - [79] - Quote I keep getting a message "you have been removed from battle" if I try to play solo
Hoover Damn H.A.R.V.E.S.T. Legacy Rising 42	Posted - 2014.02.12 05:27:00 - [80] - Quote Delta90212 wrote: I'm not denying that MLT tanks are 1/2 of the problem. It's just you can't bugfix to force players not to tank spam/proto stomp its gonna happen anyway We could remove prototype-level gear entirely. I mean, the stompers say it's all skill, right? So they shouldn't notice any difference if they're forced to use advanced gear!

Hoover Damn H.A.R.V.E.S.T. Legacy Rising 42	Posted - 2014.02.12 05:28:00 - [81] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: m twiggz wrote: Haven't noticed much of a difference. Still seeing a lot of games filled with no squad blueberries and stacked teams either way. Was in one good match where both teams had two full squads, but that was 1 out of 12 matches played. Never mind, should have read the full thread first. Apparently it was only to fix empty matches. As the popular CCP phrase goes... I suppose this is "working as intended." Yep, as mentioned this fix should address unbalanced team numbers - not necessarily skill or gear imbalances. Is there no way to detect player SP count in the matchmaking algorithm?
toasterwaffles THE IMMORTAL L3GI0N 22	Posted - 2014.02.12 05:31:00 - [82] - Quote Havaru Fox wrote: why not use the KDR to make teams? P1 has 0,5 P2 has 1,5 P3 has 2 P4 has 3 P5 has 2 P6 has 0,5 P7 has 1 P8 has 1,5 over all 12 Team 1 are P1,P2,P3 and P5 makes it 6 Team 2 P4,P6,P7 and P8 makes it also 6 why this? people with awesome KDR would face people who are also "awesome". so if you get a full 6er with a KDR of 6 per player, then the system would give them a hand full of noobs. you want a full 16 people fight withpout bad players on your team? then fix district locking, because i'm bored of getting overrunned by a proto 6er! A team of snipers would run into a group of pro to assaults Check out our site
Billy Joe Bob1 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 0	Posted - 2014.02.12 05:33:00 - [83] - Quote I am constantly (and I mean 90% of the time) getting the message: "you have been removed from the battle" the second I try and join a public match. Which isn't much fun. On the bright side, at least I'm not getting proto stomped. Which is new.
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 278	Posted - 2014.02.12 06:40:00 - [84] - Quote Grimmiers wrote: @Vee I think the spawn system in ambush is currently broken making it harder to fight back after the first wave of spawns gets killed. Scanners can easily find the new spawn location that will keep spawning the entire team within a 50 meter radius until the match is essentially over. yea ambush has basicly turned into farming for those in the know with the most power right off the bat. I'm beginning to think I bet on the wrong horse for the new FPSMMO, as much as I love all of CCP's game design, they kinda are the masters of the battle was decided before the player arrived on the battle field, and that does not work in an FPS.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2934	Posted - 2014.02.12 09:43:00 - [85] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: m twiggz wrote: Haven't noticed much of a difference. Still seeing a lot of games filled with no squad blueberries and stacked teams either way. Was in one good match where both teams had two full squads, but that was 1 out of 12 matches played. Never mind, should have read the full thread first. Apparently it was only to fix empty matches. As the popular CCP phrase goes... I suppose this is "working as intended." Yep, as mentioned this fix should address unbalanced team numbers - not necessarily skill or gear imbalances. Noted, and appreciated. Lord knows I've had that happen. The biggest issue however remains -- one team with an organized squad or squads being matched up with a team without such organized numbers. These battles are over before they ever begin. That's not fun.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 1613	Posted - 2014.02.12 09:48:00 - [86] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, as mentioned this fix should address unbalanced team numbers - not necessarily skill or gear imbalances. Sometime it works, sometime not, yesterday i've played a couple of 8 vs 16 matches. 1.8 it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes...
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 1949	Posted - 2014.02.12 13:10:00 - [87] - Quote No empty matches, which was nice. Still got dropped into a couple where there was only 2 ticks left on the MCC, though. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.1 Amarr victor!
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2510	Posted - 2014.02.12 13:44:00 - [88] - Quote No empty matches and most we played were balanced Intelligence is OP
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 141	Posted - 2014.02.12 13:55:00 - [89] - Quote Played a few games solo in all modes, longer load times but teams seem balanced. Good stuff CCP (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ "fuck this I'm out"... ... ..."I'm back"
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 488	Posted - 2014.02.12 15:15:00 - [90] - Quote You have to be careful though. Cause all squads are not created equal. If I join a random squad in squad finder even if there 6 if us it will likely be no match for a corp stomp. So if the game matches on squads poorly it would discourage me from squadding with randoms since I'd be better off on my own and hoping if the eneny gets a squad we get a solid corp squad. So using SP wgen trying to match squads or some sort of squad synergy by looking at alliances or corps of the members of the squad would be needed. Basically a squad of random green berries likely gets its team stomped if they are treated as being worth a squad of corp mates, unless you get a really solid random squad. Those do happen, but its rare I'm not the best on my random squad.

Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6628	Posted - 2014.02.12 18:00:00 - [91] - Quote Question, when you say "balance by fits" are you looking into the players fittings and saying "Oh, this guy has a proto fit so he must be good" or are you actually looking into what the player uses mos often in battle? I'd wager there's a ton of people out there that have a proto fit just to favorite and walk around in the warbarge but don't actually have the proper skills to really take advantage of it. And Aero said unto his children, "LET THERE BE A REGISTRY" CPM Info and Q&A -Status: Open
Ninja Troll 24	Posted - 2014.02.13 16:15:00 - [92] - Quote Anyone else notice that members from the same corp are on opposing teams more frequently now? The last few pub matches I've seen the following: Corp X has 10 members in match = 4 on my team + 6 on enemy team. I watched my team members and the enemy (their corp members) not kill each other at the objective. These Corp X members took turns hacking objectives. Occasionally they would kill each other if non-corp members were around. This rarely happened during the Shinobi event, so was this caused from the bug fix? [REQ] Infantry Only Mode or Option- No Vehicles
PR0FESSOR CHAOS Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 33	Posted - 2014.05.06 05:37:00 - [93] - Quote glad all that feedback to improve matchmaking worked out. good job everyone Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.
danie sous DUST BRASIL S.A Caps and Mercs 3	Posted - 2014.05.06 05:48:00 - [94] - Quote Vee Abbey wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! Played 4 matches 1 Stacked Nyan Chan/San against loners the result? STOMPED 2 Stacked Venezuela Corp against randoms the result? STOMPED 3 Stacked Acquisition LLC against randoms the result? .... 4 Stacked DUST brasil against randoms... guys I know failure is an option but you got Messing Up to Proficiency 10... specc into something else ffs edit My bad forgot to state; Every single match was against no less than 3 tanks and an ADS while AutoSpawn frequently would spawn me in front of a TANK who only had to constantly fire at the same spot to get kills, if you managed to run away there were bottom feeder red dots ready to tag you. Oh yeah good job on expanding the timer for ambush it's what the community has been asking for since uprising, good job much balance so CCP Dirty Brazilians
deezy dabest Warpoint Sharx 496	Posted - 2014.05.06 08:22:00 - [95] - Quote PR0FESSOR CHAOS wrote: glad all that feedback to improve matchmaking worked out. good job everyone Nicely done. You trolled the **** out of me when you bumped this.
THE 2000 SWINE Commando Perkone Caldari State 1	Posted - 2014.05.06 10:14:00 - [96] - Quote Vee Abbey wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! Played 4 matches 1 Stacked Nyan Chan/San against loners the result? STOMPED 2 Stacked Venezuela Corp against randoms the result? STOMPED 3 Stacked Acquisition LLC against randoms the result? .... 4 Stacked DUST brasil against randoms... guys I know failure is an option but you got Messing Up to Proficiency 10... specc into something else ffs edit My bad forgot to state; Every single match was against no less than 3 tanks and an ADS while AutoSpawn frequently would spawn me in front of a TANK who only had to constantly fire at the same spot to get kills, if you managed to run away there were bottom feeder red dots ready to tag you. Oh yeah good job on expanding the timer for ambush it's what the community has been asking for since uprising, good job much balance so CCP What Region were you playing in? and/or which region are you from?
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 3029	Posted - 2014.05.06 10:49:00 - [97] - Quote Nnnneeeeeeccccrrrrooooo "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
IceShifter Childhaspawn DUST University Ivy League 669	Posted - 2014.05.06 10:59:00 - [98] - Quote Zombie thread... Fire. If DUST514 has to die for it to be reborn as project LEGION -I move we name it EVE: PHOENIX.
BDiD HEAVY LOGISTIC OPERATIONS 4	Posted - 2014.05.06 12:20:00 - [99] - Quote Yeah, it was broken. If i come in with my sqd of 5/6 with 100 mil sp sqd totals, 5/6 guys with between 25/35 mil sp, it was us 6 vs EVERYONE who was good. I get that a really good 6 person sqd can be amazingly effective. When its just us 6 pushing and 8 snipers + 2 random scouts, we are not going to win vs 2 organized sqds and there blues. Im.excited to see balance. Im ok with fairness. Especially for new players. I feel bad. Steemline B to the body hour after hour. If i were new, that would suck.
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 345	Posted - 2014.05.06 12:22:00 - [100] - Quote 0 difference Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.

Vee Abbey Three-body Solution 44	Posted - 2014.05.06 14:02:00 - [101] - Quote Cyzad4 wrote: 0 difference YUP PRETTY MUCH !!!!!!!!!
BioClone Ax-45 Grupo de Asalto Chacal RISE of LEGION 52	Posted - 2014.05.06 14:16:00 - [102] - Quote Delta90212 wrote: Vee Abbey wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Yep, this was a bug fix. Let us know your feedback - are the games balanced? Hopefully it's helped resolve a lot of the team in-balance issues! Played 4 matches 1 Stacked Nyan Chan/San against loners the result? STOMPED 2 Stacked Venezuela Corp against randoms the result? STOMPED 3 Stacked Acquisition LLC against randoms the result? .... 4 Stacked DUST brasil against randoms... guys I know failure is an option but you got Messing Up to Proficiency 10... specc into something else ffs edit My bad forgot to state; Every single match was against no less than 3 tanks and an ADS while AutoSpawn frequently would spawn me in front of a TANK who only had to constantly fire at the same spot to get kills, if you managed to run away there were bottom feeder red dots ready to tag you. Oh yeah good job on expanding the timer for ambush it's what the community has been asking for since uprising, good job much balance so CCP You can't bugfix so that players won't tank spam maibe, but they can add a system where if on one team there re 3 guys with 10 M SPs on tanks, the other team get another 3 guys like that... or using data about with what anybody use to kill, same way it says to you at the end of the matches (Fav gear)


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