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Django Quik Dust2Dust. 2163	Posted - 2014.02.11 09:14:00 - [1] - Quote Keep on seeing people saying don't bother speccing into rail rifles because they're getting nerfed, so thought I would post a couple of dev quotes that clarify the future a little better than that: CCP Saberwing wrote: Additionally, RRs aren't the only weapons that are having their base damage reduced. The tweaks will affect a number of weapons as part of larger TTK adjustments. The plan isn't to simply nerf the RR in to absurdity. CCP Saberwing wrote: I saw that CCP Logibro hinted at Rail Rifles being nerfed a bit in 1.8 - this is true :) I've mentioned a few times that there will be TTK adjustments in 1.8 and we are looking at improving this overall by reducing the base damage and damage mods on some of the Rifles / SMGs. The difference isn't huge(!!!) - but it's there. CCP Saberwing wrote: RRs aren't the only weapons having their base damage reduced - you'll find similar changes to the CR, etc. The plan is to improve the overall TTK. Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot Scout community is the nuts
OZAROW 0uter.Heaven 1382	Posted - 2014.02.11 09:19:00 - [2] - Quote There so gonna break this SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
PEW JACKSON Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 220	Posted - 2014.02.11 10:33:00 - [3] - Quote So you're saying the RR won't be the only weapon collecting DUST after 1.8 drops. Dead on the ground.... Think I made a wrong turn :/

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 1610	Posted - 2014.02.11 10:57:00 - [4] - Quote PEW JACKSON wrote: So you're saying the RR won't be the only weapon collecting DUST after 1.8 drops. Lawl. None of the nerfs have been game-breaking - they're more just to marginally improve TTK. And trust me, I would be angry if my beloved Combat Rifle was lacking in firepower. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

Rusty Shallows 937	Posted - 2014.02.11 10:57:00 - [5] - Quote OZAROW wrote: There so gonna break this But, but 1.7 showed that CCP no longer Nerfs things to crap... ... so predictable. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1749	Posted - 2014.02.11 11:00:00 - [6] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: PEW JACKSON wrote: So you're saying the RR won't be the only weapon collecting DUST after 1.8 drops. Lawl. None of the nerfs have been game-breaking - they're more just to marginally improve TTK. And trust me, I would be angry if my beloved Combat Rifle was lacking in firepower. I like the idea of making TTK longer. Maybe the fitting will finally matter. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2045	Posted - 2014.02.11 11:07:00 - [7] - Quote Higher ttk is nice. No idea on my guns right now. Getting majority to level 3 at least, then deciding. Proud member of RND
straya fox Sad Panda Solutions 200	Posted - 2014.02.11 11:08:00 - [8] - Quote looks at Rail rifle "If you go the way of the TAC, swarm launcher and flay lock i'll have a nice spot to hang you over the fire place." glances at ScR rifle specs we may have a replacement ready.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 150	Posted - 2014.02.11 11:12:00 - [9] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: PEW JACKSON wrote: So you're saying the RR won't be the only weapon collecting DUST after 1.8 drops. Lawl. None of the nerfs have been game-breaking - they're more just to marginally improve TTK. And trust me, I would be angry if my beloved Combat Rifle was lacking in firepower. The TTk is ridiculous for both RR and The combat one only needs to look at the data to realize this.I know you guys collect data on what weapons are killing the most and what weapons are not.This doesnt mean that the RR and Combat are just Popular it means no one is using other weps. The time to kill is ridiculous and for anyone who doesnt agree . MAKE AN ALT AND PLAY IT. See how long a new player lives then ask your self if you would play this game under those conditions? Thats why were seeing heavies carrying RR's and CR's. And before a writer trolls my post I have both and do well with both ,but I dont see or very rarely see anyone using any other weapon. All weps need to be adjusted theres no more firefights its just scan..........dead. People wonder why the player population is so low..... Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2276	Posted - 2014.02.11 11:13:00 - [10] - Quote I'm just curious as to which weapon will become the new FOTM Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!

Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1749	Posted - 2014.02.11 11:33:00 - [11] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I'm just curious as to which weapon will become the new FOTM Anything with the Cloaking Module I guess. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
fragmentedhackslash FREE AGENTS LP 125	Posted - 2014.02.11 11:36:00 - [12] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: I'm just curious as to which weapon will become the new FOTM Anything with the Cloaking Module I guess. Amarr Assault ak.0 Visiam Sctambler rifle Pain is just weakness leaving your body. Every day is a holiday. Every meal is a feast.
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2275	Posted - 2014.02.11 11:38:00 - [13] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: I'm just curious as to which weapon will become the new FOTM Anything with the Cloaking Module I guess. Not so sure but i bet shotguns race up in use "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 3166	Posted - 2014.02.11 11:48:00 - [14] - Quote So what numbers do we have for the RR and CR damage nerf? And what other weapons are receiving damage nerfs? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 4931	Posted - 2014.02.11 11:51:00 - [15] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I'm just curious as to which weapon will become the new FOTM Heavies. > GÇ£I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.GÇ¥ -Oscar Wilde
BMSTUBBY KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 638	Posted - 2014.02.11 11:57:00 - [16] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: PEW JACKSON wrote: So you're saying the RR won't be the only weapon collecting DUST after 1.8 drops. Lawl. None of the nerfs have been game-breaking - they're more just to marginally improve TTK. And trust me, I would be angry if my beloved Combat Rifle was lacking in firepower. Flaylocks! I would have to say thay you broke any flaylock users game with that gigantic turd of a nerf cluster fck. Meh, F2P Lobby Shooter BattleDuty 514 Working as intended.
IG8T8 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 5	Posted - 2014.02.11 11:59:00 - [17] - Quote TTK is fine, increase it and new players will get even less kills. I'm running templar assault suit (basic) with militia BPO modules giving me ~ 500 EHP, templar (basic) scrambler rifle (no damage mods but have proficiency 3) and have ~4 mil SP overall.
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 961	Posted - 2014.02.11 12:25:00 - [18] - Quote TTK Is too short but it only needs an increase of about 20%. Any longer than that I think the flow of the game will suffer. Mercenary Clone of Dennie Fleetfoot CEO of DUST University
Mister Goo ZionTCD 22	Posted - 2014.02.11 13:16:00 - [19] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I'm just curious as to which weapon will become the new FOTM Return of the Mass Driver, direct damage increase, splash increase, what more could one ask for? Closed Beta Vet Minmatar Logistics I Repair, Revive, and Replenish. Leave the slaying for Assaults and Heavies.
Tolen Rosas Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 358	Posted - 2014.02.11 13:22:00 - [20] - Quote Evicer wrote: Thats why were seeing heavies carrying RR's and CR's. sorry but when the RR and CR outperform the HMG at close range u have failed at development.

Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 385	Posted - 2014.02.11 13:29:00 - [21] - Quote Tolen Rosas wrote: Evicer wrote: Thats why were seeing heavies carrying RR's and CR's. sorry but when the RR and CR outperform the HMG at close range u have failed at development. They don't outperform the HMG at close range -- unless the person using the HMG lacks gun game. The reason heavies are using them are because they outperform them at range, not up close. Up close, the HMG is the still undisputed king. Respectfully...Leadfoot
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 2154	Posted - 2014.02.11 13:30:00 - [22] - Quote Tolen Rosas wrote: Evicer wrote: Thats why were seeing heavies carrying RR's and CR's. sorry but when the RR and CR outperform the HMG at close range u have failed at development. I agree ...
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1073	Posted - 2014.02.11 15:02:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: PEW JACKSON wrote: So you're saying the RR won't be the only weapon collecting DUST after 1.8 drops. Lawl. None of the nerfs have been game-breaking - they're more just to marginally improve TTK. And trust me, I would be angry if my beloved Combat Rifle was lacking in firepower. The Fire power in the CR is acceptable, but the range is not... RR is not match for a CR, Kalakiota RR vs Six Kin CR .... CR beats RR 7 out of 10 times
KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution 2078	Posted - 2014.02.11 15:09:00 - [24] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: PEW JACKSON wrote: So you're saying the RR won't be the only weapon collecting DUST after 1.8 drops. Lawl. None of the nerfs have been game-breaking - they're more just to marginally improve TTK. And trust me, I would be angry if my beloved Combat Rifle was lacking in firepower. Your track record suggests otherwise. Flaylock Swarms Laser Rifle Scouts HMG Only half of issues your **** poor balancing caused have been addressed, some taking 8 months to even be noted. So about those vehicle locks...
Jake Diesel BIG BAD W0LVES 80	Posted - 2014.02.11 15:35:00 - [25] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: I'm just curious as to which weapon will become the new FOTM Heavies. Technically a heavy isn't a weapon. Unless you plan on picking up a nearby heavy and throwing him?
CR4SH OVERRIDE 4	Posted - 2014.02.11 15:46:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: PEW JACKSON wrote: So you're saying the RR won't be the only weapon collecting DUST after 1.8 drops. Lawl. None of the nerfs have been game-breaking - they're more just to marginally improve TTK. And trust me, I would be angry if my OP Combat Rifle was lacking in firepower. FTFY Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 2/22/2014 3:38:16 AM.
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 2119	Posted - 2014.02.11 15:50:00 - [27] - Quote Heard my Duvolle is getting a buff Pew...Pew Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1798	Posted - 2014.02.11 16:16:00 - [28] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Keep on seeing people saying don't bother speccing into rail rifles because they're getting nerfed, so thought I would post a couple of dev quotes that clarify the future a little better than that: CCP Saberwing wrote: Additionally, RRs aren't the only weapons that are having their base damage reduced. The tweaks will affect a number of weapons as part of larger TTK adjustments. The plan isn't to simply nerf the RR in to absurdity. CCP Saberwing wrote: I saw that CCP Logibro hinted at Rail Rifles being nerfed a bit in 1.8 - this is true :) I've mentioned a few times that there will be TTK adjustments in 1.8 and we are looking at improving this overall by reducing the base damage and damage mods on some of the Rifles / SMGs. The difference isn't huge(!!!) - but it's there. CCP Saberwing wrote: RRs aren't the only weapons having their base damage reduced - you'll find similar changes to the CR, etc. The plan is to improve the overall TTK. Good, there's no reason a STD combat rifle should kill me as fast as a Duvolle, when I'm in an ADV suit. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 294	Posted - 2014.02.11 16:26:00 - [29] - Quote In Eve we just shift doctrines and loadouts to optimize the current buff-nerf cycle. One year we'll all be shield tanking our laser fleets, and in the next we'll all run Caldari rails on every ship (because they were buffed). The new Caldari Assault bonus fits very well into that rail sniper theme. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1923	Posted - 2014.02.11 16:28:00 - [30] - Quote Nerfs all direct fire weapons Buffs Mass Driver Another nerf one thing buff its counter scenario <3 Except this time it's in my favor. RR op5prof1 CR op5prof1 MD op5prof3 I dont think i can ever truly be nerfed. just goes to show having multiple, very different weapons, is a good thing. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!



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