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Neo Rinzler Commando Perkone Caldari State 2	Posted - 2014.02.08 10:13:00 - [1] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813024#post1813024 The Amarrians complained about the ROF because it wouldn't affect the semi auto SCR and thus the bonuses have been completely changed to give them their laser heat build up bonus back and look at what the Caldari Assault bonus now is .. Reload Speed Increase All blame to be headed at KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf for this idiotic bonus and CCP for actually listening to him Please sign below with a HELLS NOOOOOOOO or whatever version of no you prefer .. if the Amarr can QQ there way back to their old bonus then surely we can QQ to get the ROF bonus back Signed
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1999	Posted - 2014.02.08 10:19:00 - [2] - Quote You see, the RoF bonus was the Assault Bonus, not the Caldari Assault Bonus. You were probably going to get this bonus all along, regardless of what the Amarrians said... Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire MAG ~ Seryi Volk Executive Response
Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 148	Posted - 2014.02.08 10:24:00 - [3] - Quote It is a stupid bonus. A bonus to ammo carried would be more useful than a reload bonus. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
DANJA DOM FREE AGENTS LP 6	Posted - 2014.02.08 10:29:00 - [4] - Quote For some reason CCP hates caldari, they take giant dumps on us. But i'm happy about the amarr assault bonus staying :) My viziam will be happier. "Rules were made to be broken"
jordy mack Ultramarine Corp 153	Posted - 2014.02.08 10:32:00 - [5] - Quote PRETTY SURE CAL LOGI ARE WITH U Less QQ more PewPew
Neo Rinzler Commando Perkone Caldari State 2	Posted - 2014.02.08 10:38:00 - [6] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: You see, the RoF bonus was the Assault Bonus, not the Caldari Assault Bonus. You were probably going to get this bonus all along, regardless of what the Amarrians said... I know Now no one gets a ROF bonus and instead Assault gets fitting for light weapons and the caldari get a useless reload bonus ..
Kal Kronos L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 184	Posted - 2014.02.08 10:40:00 - [7] - Quote Signed, bonus went from 5% per level to extenders(meh bonus) to **** reload bonus we already had and was useless. What's not to love about the scrambler rifle, the thing is a precision weapon and at the same time a shotgun.
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1875	Posted - 2014.02.08 10:42:00 - [8] - Quote Admittedly the caldari bonus is a bit poor, it should be the gallante, the gallante should get the reload bonus AND a bonus to damage mods. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 1538	Posted - 2014.02.08 11:09:00 - [9] - Quote DANJA DOM wrote: For some reason CCP hates caldari, they take giant dumps on us. But i'm happy about the amarr assault bonus staying :) My viziam will be happier. CCP... hates... Caldari? Did you honestly just say that? I point to you FG. SL. Railgun. CalLogi. Shields in general for most of the game's lifespan to date. Pre-nerf swarms. Current Gunnlogi. And of course, the RR. Most QQ inducing weapon since the Flaylock. Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters. Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
Horizen Kenpachi Kenpachi's Castle 155	Posted - 2014.02.08 11:11:00 - [10] - Quote bonus sounds crappy as hell when theres already a skill for that in the rr tree Hit me with your nerf bat.

KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 952	Posted - 2014.02.08 11:34:00 - [11] - Quote Neo Rinzler wrote: All blame to be headed at KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf for this idiotic bonus and CCP for actually listening to him Why anyone listens to AFK farmer extraordinaire KAGEHOSHI is beyond me. A good idea and that AFK have yet to actually meet. Hell No to 1.8! If not then Hell No to Dust514. And so it goes.
straya fox Sad Panda Solutions 189	Posted - 2014.02.08 12:26:00 - [12] - Quote Worst assault bonus they could think of. The Amarr bonus takes away the only balancing factor to the ScR, and Caldari get a damm reload bonus. I mean seriously in the middle of a gun fight when you run out of your clip you switch to side arm, reload when everyone is dead or you are.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2004	Posted - 2014.02.08 12:30:00 - [13] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: Neo Rinzler wrote: All blame to be headed at KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf for this idiotic bonus and CCP for actually listening to him Why anyone listens to AFK farmer extraordinaire KAGEHOSHI is beyond me. A good idea and that AFK have yet to actually meet. Hell No to 1.8! If not then Hell No to Dust514. Caldari Assaults are losing about 30-40 shields, and get to reload 25% faster. That's a buff. Stop yo' bitchin'. Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II MAG ~ Seryi Volk Executive Response
Kaughst Nyain San Renegade Alliance 180	Posted - 2014.02.08 12:32:00 - [14] - Quote I think you are right this Horned wolf fellow made ill advised suggestions to the assault classes and people are reacting negatively. It goes to show that when you have conviction in things you should actually trying to get feedback from people before you start making conclusions about your direction. "That is not how you say my name." "How do you say your name?" "I don't know but that is not how you say it."
Lucifalic Nos Nothi 292	Posted - 2014.02.08 12:32:00 - [15] - Quote Im a scout and couldnt care less about med frame scrubs...... But that bonus is crap. CHANGE IT to ammo carried bonus and your good to go. When did you guys get so OLD!!
Kaughst Nyain San Renegade Alliance 180	Posted - 2014.02.08 12:33:00 - [16] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: KalOfTheRathi wrote: Neo Rinzler wrote: All blame to be headed at KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf for this idiotic bonus and CCP for actually listening to him Why anyone listens to AFK farmer extraordinaire KAGEHOSHI is beyond me. A good idea and that AFK have yet to actually meet. Hell No to 1.8! If not then Hell No to Dust514. Caldari Assaults are losing about 30-40 shields, and get to reload 25% faster. That's a buff. Stop yo' bitchin'. Was that not the same type of bonus as before they had those shields. A reload bonus to hybrid weaponry. "That is not how you say my name." "How do you say your name?" "I don't know but that is not how you say it."
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2004	Posted - 2014.02.08 12:36:00 - [17] - Quote Kaughst wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: KalOfTheRathi wrote: Neo Rinzler wrote: All blame to be headed at KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf for this idiotic bonus and CCP for actually listening to him Why anyone listens to AFK farmer extraordinaire KAGEHOSHI is beyond me. A good idea and that AFK have yet to actually meet. Hell No to 1.8! If not then Hell No to Dust514. Caldari Assaults are losing about 30-40 shields, and get to reload 25% faster. That's a buff. Stop yo' bitchin'. Was that not the same type of bonus as before they had those shields. A reload bonus to hybrid weaponry. Old Caldari Assault Bonus: +2% reload speed per level for hybrid weaponry. Current Caldari Assault Bonus: +2% Shield Extender Efficacy per level New Caldari Assault Bonus: +5% reload speed per level for hybrid/rail weaponry. Similar, but better. Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II MAG ~ Seryi Volk Executive Response
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2431	Posted - 2014.02.08 12:46:00 - [18] - Quote jordy mack wrote: PRETTY SURE CAL LOGI ARE WITH U Logi bonus is fine, bonus to all equipment and a bigger bonus to the racial equipment As for assault rails are long range weapons and good for suppressive fire, its not too bad But you could argue the assault bonus should be for assaulting so keep the 5%PG/CPU weapon bonus but the secondary be for the main tank but then you get the cal/minnie having the same bonus Intelligence is OP
Neo Rinzler Commando Perkone Caldari State 3	Posted - 2014.02.08 13:01:00 - [19] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Kaughst wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: KalOfTheRathi wrote: Neo Rinzler wrote: All blame to be headed at KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf for this idiotic bonus and CCP for actually listening to him Why anyone listens to AFK farmer extraordinaire KAGEHOSHI is beyond me. A good idea and that AFK have yet to actually meet. Hell No to 1.8! If not then Hell No to Dust514. Caldari Assaults are losing about 30-40 shields, and get to reload 25% faster. That's a buff. Stop yo' bitchin'. Was that not the same type of bonus as before they had those shields. A reload bonus to hybrid weaponry. Old Caldari Assault Bonus: +2% reload speed per level for hybrid weaponry. Current Caldari Assault Bonus: +2% Shield Extender Efficacy per level New Caldari Assault Bonus: +5% reload speed per level for hybrid/rail weaponry. Similar, but better. It's useless Would you like to know the issue I have with Sniper Rifles ? It isn't the reload speed its the damage and clip sizes .. faster reload is useless because you still have to go out of scope to reload and then get your zoom back in .. by that time your target has gotten away anyway Would you like to know the issue with the RR ? It isn't reloading speed it's spool up time and bullet dispersion at range ... The Minmatar weapons have small clip sizes so increasing the amount of bullets per clip is most definitely a bonus The weakness of Amarrian weapons is heat build up and therefore the bonus to heat build up reduction is clearly a bonus The weakness of Gallente weapons is mostly dispersion so giving them a passive sharpshooter skill at least benefits some of the weapons (although this bonus is slightly weak as it doesn't benefit all of the Gallentean weapons .. PLC anyone ?) If i'm brutally honest if the Amarrian suit increases the DPS of laser weaponry then the Caldari bonus should be to ROF .. in fact CCP should've left all the other races with ROF bonus and given the amarrian suit the laser heat build up reduction Assault suits should have a slight increase in DPS when using their racial weapons over other suits using them ... If the other races don;t get an ROF bonus then the Amarrians should NOT get a passive skill that increases their DPS either !
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die 698	Posted - 2014.02.08 13:01:00 - [20] - Quote Neo Rinzler wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813024#post1813024 The Amarrians complained about the ROF because it wouldn't affect the semi auto SCR and thus the bonuses have been completely changed to give them their laser heat build up bonus back and look at what the Caldari Assault bonus now is .. Reload Speed Increase All blame to be headed at KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf for this idiotic bonus and CCP for actually listening to him Please sign below with a HELLS NOOOOOOOO or whatever version of no you prefer .. if the Amarr can QQ there way back to their old bonus then surely we can QQ to get the ROF bonus back Signed You realize that this bonus was the first CalAss bonus, right? That said, I think a %reduction to spool time would be better. That, or a % increase to hybrid-rail weapon range per level. This would cement CalAss as a range fighter. Of course, this would also require adjustments to rail and sniper damage Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy

BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1852	Posted - 2014.02.08 13:02:00 - [21] - Quote Neo Rinzler wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813024#post1813024 The Amarrians complained about the ROF because it wouldn't affect the semi auto SCR and thus the bonuses have been completely changed to give them their laser heat build up bonus back and look at what the Caldari Assault bonus now is .. Reload Speed Increase All blame to be headed at KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf for this idiotic bonus and CCP for actually listening to him Please sign below with a HELLS NOOOOOOOO or whatever version of no you prefer .. if the Amarr can QQ there way back to their old bonus then surely we can QQ to get the ROF bonus back Signed You caldaris have no idea how good this bonus is, but hey if you want it gone let's go for it! So +1 Armor and Shields are not the same!
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2004	Posted - 2014.02.08 13:05:00 - [22] - Quote Reload speed, accuracy, and magazine size all increase DPS, in the same way that a heat reduction bonus does. They all allow you to put more rounds on the enemy. Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II MAG ~ Seryi Volk Executive Response
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die 698	Posted - 2014.02.08 13:07:00 - [23] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: jordy mack wrote: PRETTY SURE CAL LOGI ARE WITH U Logi bonus is fine, bonus to all equipment and a bigger bonus to the racial equipment As for assault rails are long range weapons and good for suppressive fire, its not too bad But you could argue the assault bonus should be for assaulting so keep the 5%PG/CPU weapon bonus but the secondary be for the main tank but then you get the cal/minnie having the same bonus My problem with the Logi change is the drastic nerf to various equipment. I'll miss using Adv. Nano hives on my AmLogi Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy
Callidus Vanus Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 228	Posted - 2014.02.08 13:12:00 - [24] - Quote Considering that we get heavily penalized if we put more then three shield extenders on our suit id say the 5% bonus to extenders is necessary. We shouldn't be forced to armor tank our suits just to be competitive. Closed beta bunny, Veteran of Caldari Prime.
Neo Rinzler Commando Perkone Caldari State 4	Posted - 2014.02.08 13:13:00 - [25] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Neo Rinzler wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813024#post1813024 The Amarrians complained about the ROF because it wouldn't affect the semi auto SCR and thus the bonuses have been completely changed to give them their laser heat build up bonus back and look at what the Caldari Assault bonus now is .. Reload Speed Increase All blame to be headed at KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf for this idiotic bonus and CCP for actually listening to him Please sign below with a HELLS NOOOOOOOO or whatever version of no you prefer .. if the Amarr can QQ there way back to their old bonus then surely we can QQ to get the ROF bonus back Signed You caldaris have no idea how good this bonus is, but hey if you want it gone let's go for it! So +1 It's useless, it's totally useless when your using Caldari tech in the way it was designed to be used .. Hit and Run .. shields dampeners and stamina/speed you find an enemy or a group at range you pop out of cover kill 1 of them and pop behind cover .. pick them off 1 by 1 and you reload whilst you pop back behind cover and then repeat the process .. if you get engaged in CQC you switch to your sidearm .. if your using the full 42 clip in 1 engagement and need to reload in the middle of it then your doing it wrong There is a reason why the Caldari accept that this bonus is rubbish .. that's because it is useless and doesn't fit in with the Caldari Playstyle at all .. Ranged combat does not require super fast reloading it requires movement speed,damage and stealth Closer Dispersion whilst in ADS or a higher ROF would be a much better 'Assault' bonus than reload speed ..
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2004	Posted - 2014.02.08 13:15:00 - [26] - Quote You guys do realize that shield recharge rate is probably going up for the Calassault right? I bet it will be ~35hp/s with a 3/5 second delay... Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II MAG ~ Seryi Volk Executive Response
Neo Rinzler Commando Perkone Caldari State 5	Posted - 2014.02.08 13:21:00 - [27] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Reload speed, accuracy, and magazine size all increase DPS, in the same way that a heat reduction bonus does. They all allow you to put more rounds on the enemy. Buying 1 lottery ticket improves your chance of winning the lottery as does buying 1 million .. what we have here is the Cal Assault is getting 1 lottery Ticket whilst the Amarr are getting 1 million The bonuses aren't balanced and honestly if the bonuses stay the same and we got a respec I would never again use a Cal Assault suit .. I don't think many other people would either May as well say Goodbye to the Caldari Assault .. you will never see the all black Cal Assault Suit in battle again
PO0KY Virtual Syndicate 54	Posted - 2014.02.08 13:22:00 - [28] - Quote Sign me the **** up
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2431	Posted - 2014.02.08 13:22:00 - [29] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: jordy mack wrote: PRETTY SURE CAL LOGI ARE WITH U Logi bonus is fine, bonus to all equipment and a bigger bonus to the racial equipment As for assault rails are long range weapons and good for suppressive fire, its not too bad But you could argue the assault bonus should be for assaulting so keep the 5%PG/CPU weapon bonus but the secondary be for the main tank but then you get the cal/minnie having the same bonus My problem with the Logi change is the drastic nerf to various equipment. I'll miss using Adv. Nano hives on my AmLogi The nerf is needed to make the logi a bit more useful and also specalized so each racial suit has a strength Also at least i hope it cuts down on scan514 since everyone has one Intelligence is OP
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 176	Posted - 2014.02.08 13:27:00 - [30] - Quote Suits should get 4 bonuses, like ships do in eve. and Caldari assault needs a regulator bonus.

Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1184	Posted - 2014.02.08 13:34:00 - [31] - Quote Rail RoF increase or range bonus are the two acceptable bonuses IMO. Range bonus makes sense lore-wise, and it would make RR best used on caldari assault rather than gallente scum suits. Prepare for 1.8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPhISgw3I2w
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 168	Posted - 2014.02.08 13:49:00 - [32] - Quote ill sign yours if you sign a gallente one when we make it this is just crap all around. PS CCP in a fps game tight ads fire good but tight hipfire in cqc bad. The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die 704	Posted - 2014.02.08 13:58:00 - [33] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: RuckingFetard wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: jordy mack wrote: PRETTY SURE CAL LOGI ARE WITH U Logi bonus is fine, bonus to all equipment and a bigger bonus to the racial equipment As for assault rails are long range weapons and good for suppressive fire, its not too bad But you could argue the assault bonus should be for assaulting so keep the 5%PG/CPU weapon bonus but the secondary be for the main tank but then you get the cal/minnie having the same bonus My problem with the Logi change is the drastic nerf to various equipment. I'll miss using Adv. Nano hives on my AmLogi The nerf is needed to make the logi a bit more useful and also specalized so each racial suit has a strength Also at least i hope it cuts down on scan514 since everyone has one Nerf all equipment then give racial logo bonuses such that equipment then perform at somewhat comparable levels. This is a buff. Right At least the general logo bonus is useful Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy
Squagga The State Protectorate 173	Posted - 2014.02.08 13:59:00 - [34] - Quote Instead of pointing fingers, why don't we ask for a racial bonus of our own? Bigger cod pieces? Reloading, the silent killer.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 9125	Posted - 2014.02.08 14:00:00 - [35] - Quote Hahaha, blaming KAGEHOSHI. ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2431	Posted - 2014.02.08 14:01:00 - [36] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: RuckingFetard wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: jordy mack wrote: PRETTY SURE CAL LOGI ARE WITH U Logi bonus is fine, bonus to all equipment and a bigger bonus to the racial equipment As for assault rails are long range weapons and good for suppressive fire, its not too bad But you could argue the assault bonus should be for assaulting so keep the 5%PG/CPU weapon bonus but the secondary be for the main tank but then you get the cal/minnie having the same bonus My problem with the Logi change is the drastic nerf to various equipment. I'll miss using Adv. Nano hives on my AmLogi The nerf is needed to make the logi a bit more useful and also specalized so each racial suit has a strength Also at least i hope it cuts down on scan514 since everyone has one Nerf all equipment then give racial logo bonuses such that equipment then perform at somewhat comparable levels. This is a buff. Right At least the general logo bonus is useful Incentive to use a racial suit with racial equipment You can choose to ignore it Intelligence is OP
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die 706	Posted - 2014.02.08 14:40:00 - [37] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: RuckingFetard wrote: [quote=Takahiro Kashuken][quote=RuckingFetard] Nerf all equipment then give racial logo bonuses such that equipment then perform at somewhat comparable levels. This is a buff. Right At least the general logo bonus is useful Incentive to use a racial suit with racial equipment You can choose to ignore it I can understand a nerf to scanners, but the others? Naw . Why couldn't they retain their original stats? Would make logis REALLY vital Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy
Squagga The State Protectorate 174	Posted - 2014.02.08 14:43:00 - [38] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: RuckingFetard wrote: [quote=Takahiro Kashuken][quote=RuckingFetard] Nerf all equipment then give racial logo bonuses such that equipment then perform at somewhat comparable levels. This is a buff. Right At least the general logo bonus is useful Incentive to use a racial suit with racial equipment You can choose to ignore it I can understand a nerf to scanners, but the others? Naw . Why couldn't they retain their original stats? Would make logis REALLY vital Well I think that the issue was. They made the logis have more slots and CPU/PG. Well people like me took advantage of that. So I don't know how to make it so that only logis would take advantage of this, besides giving me back my damn shields and my second equipment slot on my Cko! Reloading, the silent killer.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2434	Posted - 2014.02.08 14:43:00 - [39] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: RuckingFetard wrote: [quote=Takahiro Kashuken][quote=RuckingFetard] Nerf all equipment then give racial logo bonuses such that equipment then perform at somewhat comparable levels. This is a buff. Right At least the general logo bonus is useful Incentive to use a racial suit with racial equipment You can choose to ignore it I can understand a nerf to scanners, but the others? Naw . Why couldn't they retain their original stats? Would make logis REALLY vital Makes em even more vital now Problem is to get the most out of everything you need 4ppl skilled into each suit to get everything covered lol Intelligence is OP
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 734	Posted - 2014.02.08 14:45:00 - [40] - Quote Not a fan of the CalAssault bonus at all... Recommend: reduction in rail tech spool time per level and dispersion while in ADS. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero

Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution 1864	Posted - 2014.02.08 14:46:00 - [41] - Quote I suggested a increase to ammo max capacity in one of his threads and no the logi bonuses are perfect. New born sAMARRi
Neo Rinzler Commando Perkone Caldari State 9	Posted - 2014.02.08 14:46:00 - [42] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: ill sign yours if you sign a gallente one when we make it this is just crap all around. PS CCP in a fps game tight ads fire good but tight hipfire in cqc bad. Will do Compared to the Minni and especially the Amarr bonuses they Caldari and Gallente ones are just pathetic and is what happens when peopel who dont use either of the 2 races suits and weapons make suggestions to their bonuses
Squagga The State Protectorate 174	Posted - 2014.02.08 14:47:00 - [43] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Not a fan of the CalAssault bonus at all... Recommend: reduction in rail tech spool time per level and dispersion while in ADS. This is something that I can get behind Reloading, the silent killer.
Piercing Serenity Fatal Absolution 517	Posted - 2014.02.08 15:02:00 - [44] - Quote For everyone throwing a hissyfit without continuing to read the thread: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I think I love you EDIT: Substantive feedback time The bonuses aren't perfect, but certainly a step in the right direction. I proposed a reload bonus for Caldari assault before, but it was rather unpopular. I would recommend pairing it with something else like recoil reduction, and/or ammo reserve increase. The Minmatar scout will have more than one bonus, please do the same with the Caldari assault. No one will get excited for this bonus. The Gallente one you guys are going with seems like won't help the shotgun or, plasma cannon (unless maybe it tightens shotgun spread, IDK if shotgunners would want tighter spread or not though). Only AR users might benefit. I LOVE the Amarr and Minmatar bonuses. Perfect. EDIT 2: Just noticed the Minmatar explosive thing, maybe should be to ammo reserves instead of clip size; +1 explosive clip size per level sounds like it could be incredibly OP, as awesome as it sounds. As for logis, many find those bonuses restrictive, but I like them. When every race has at least 2 equipment type, the bonus should be expanded to include 2 equipment. Example: Minmatar could get bonus to repair tools and depoyable explosives (REs and PMs). Caldari can get bonus to nanohives nanine injectors. Gallente can get bonus to active scanner and [INSERT NEW EQUIPMENT]. Amarr can get a bonus to drop uplinks and [INSERT NEW EQUIPMENT]. Anyway, thank you. Please read before you bash DUST 514 BETA VET 16.2M Lifetime SP SH4T --> PFBHz --> PFB --> SH4T --> Fatal
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven 1287	Posted - 2014.02.08 15:03:00 - [45] - Quote Only signing this petition for my friends Kal Kronos and Squagga. If I were to just go off of OP's rant, I would not be doing this. He sounds like a prattling child that blames others for his misfortune. We Amarr cared enough to raise arms over hearing of the bonus change and we were heard. Don't blame us for your shortcomings. We didn't like the change, so we rose hell over it. Do the same. Simple as that. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
Squagga The State Protectorate 176	Posted - 2014.02.08 15:07:00 - [46] - Quote I stood up for the Amarr, within reason, because it was reasonable. That's the key here. To be reasonable. Nobody was bitching before the Amarr got to keep their bonus or even when they had it. It was when they were losing there's and got to keep it. Instead of complaining every second. Let's start comming up with viable ideas of what would be reasonable for us to get as a racial bonus. I still think bigger cod pieces isn't out of the realm of possibility Reloading, the silent killer.
iOwn AE Glitchers Kinsho Swords Caldari State 45	Posted - 2014.02.08 15:09:00 - [47] - Quote Signed. Will go slayer caldari logi, assault class is pointless without a damage boost to distinguish it's slayer role
Squagga The State Protectorate 176	Posted - 2014.02.08 15:11:00 - [48] - Quote You ... may .. wanna re think that .. Reloading, the silent killer.
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven 1287	Posted - 2014.02.08 15:16:00 - [49] - Quote Yeah, you Caldari guys are divided on what you want. Squagga is right; you need to find a common ground. OP is proposing it change to ROF bonus, though I see he is the only one wanting that. At least with the Amarr bonus, it was much simpler; one bonus changed, one bonus we wanted back. It seems that you guys are divided on the issue. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
Neo Rinzler Commando Perkone Caldari State 9	Posted - 2014.02.08 15:17:00 - [50] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Only signing this petition for my friends Kal Kronos and Squagga. If I were to just go off of OP's rant, I would not be doing this. He sounds like a prattling child that blames others for his misfortune. We Amarr cared enough to raise arms over hearing of the bonus change and we were heard. Don't blame us for your shortcomings. We didn't like the change, so we rose hell over it. Simple as that. Is this because I pointed out on a different thread that you hadn't understood the blatant sarcasm in a post I made and proceeded to post abuse at me ? If you look at some earlier posts you will see the post I was referring to when I made my sarcastic post about reload speed reduction been added to Amarrian weapons instead of the Heat Build up reduction. Do you get it yet or was explaining it twice not sufficient ?? This thread is the Caldari trying to get the rubbish new bonus we have been given based on your feedback changed back to one that is actually useful. The fact is the reason i mentioned 1 specific person is because his thread was the one that posted suggestions for other racial bonuses which were heeded by CCP and was liked by many of your ilk. Lea quite frankly you sound like a bit of a prick who starts throwing insults at people with very little reason ... maybe My OP was a bit whingey but that is because the new bonus is an absolute joke and if your justifying your own QQ about the loss of the old heat reduction bonus then you equally have to accept my QQ about the new reload reduction bonus

Squagga The State Protectorate 176	Posted - 2014.02.08 15:20:00 - [51] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Yeah, you Caldari guys are divided on what you want. Squagga is right; you need to find a common ground. OP is proposing it change to ROF bonus, though I see he is the only one wanting that. At least with the Amarr bonus, it was much simpler; one bonus changed, one bonus we wanted back. It seems that you guys are divided on the issue. Fukkin thank you lol Reloading, the silent killer.
Squagga The State Protectorate 176	Posted - 2014.02.08 15:21:00 - [52] - Quote Neo Rinzler wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Only signing this petition for my friends Kal Kronos and Squagga. If I were to just go off of OP's rant, I would not be doing this. He sounds like a prattling child that blames others for his misfortune. We Amarr cared enough to raise arms over hearing of the bonus change and we were heard. Don't blame us for your shortcomings. We didn't like the change, so we rose hell over it. Simple as that. Is this because I pointed out on a different thread that you hadn't understood the blatant sarcasm in a post I made and proceeded to post abuse at me ? If you look at some earlier posts you will see the post I was referring to when I made my sarcastic post about reload speed reduction been added to Amarrian weapons instead of the Heat Build up reduction. Do you get it yet or was explaining it twice not sufficient ?? This thread is the Caldari trying to get the rubbish new bonus we have been given based on your feedback changed back to one that is actually useful. The fact is the reason i mentioned 1 specific person is because his thread was the one that posted suggestions for other racial bonuses which were heeded by CCP and was liked by many of your ilk. Lea quite frankly you sound like a bit of a prick who starts throwing insults at people with very little reason ... maybe My OP was a bit whingey but that is because the new bonus is an absolute joke and if your justifying your own QQ about the loss of the old heat reduction bonus then you equally have to accept my QQ about the new reload reduction bonus Alright instead of bitching at the Amarr that are willing to work with us. Why don't we just focus on what we want out of this deal? Reloading, the silent killer.
iOwn AE Glitchers Kinsho Swords Caldari State 46	Posted - 2014.02.08 15:23:00 - [53] - Quote Universal assault bonus needs to be a damage boost to distinguish it's slayer role over logistic slayers How is reload speed going to fix that? CCP is ***** ******. Caldari needs a shield boost and damage boost like the original stats were.
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven 1288	Posted - 2014.02.08 15:23:00 - [54] - Quote Neo Rinzler wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Only signing this petition for my friends Kal Kronos and Squagga. If I were to just go off of OP's rant, I would not be doing this. He sounds like a prattling child that blames others for his misfortune. We Amarr cared enough to raise arms over hearing of the bonus change and we were heard. Don't blame us for your shortcomings. We didn't like the change, so we rose hell over it. Simple as that. Is this because I pointed out on a different thread that you hadn't understood the blatant sarcasm in a post I made and proceeded to post abuse at me ? If you look at some earlier posts you will see the post I was referring to when I made my sarcastic post about reload speed reduction been added to Amarrian weapons instead of the Heat Build up reduction. Do you get it yet or was explaining it twice not sufficient ?? This thread is the Caldari trying to get the rubbish new bonus we have been given based on your feedback changed back to one that is actually useful. The fact is the reason i mentioned 1 specific person is because his thread was the one that posted suggestions for other racial bonuses which were heeded by CCP and was liked by many of your ilk. Lea quite frankly you sound like a bit of a prick who starts throwing insults at people with very little reason ... maybe My OP was a bit whingey but that is because the new bonus is an absolute joke and if your justifying your own QQ about the loss of the old heat reduction bonus then you equally have to accept my QQ about the new reload reduction bonus I don't "equally" have to accept anything that I don't care to and name call me all you want, the people I play with know differently. Even you admitted that you were a bit whiney in your own initial statement. Point stands as is and I will not shy away from that....FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU, AS A COLLECTIVE UNIT, WANT. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven 1288	Posted - 2014.02.08 15:28:00 - [55] - Quote Neo Rinzler wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Only signing this petition for my friends Kal Kronos and Squagga. If I were to just go off of OP's rant, I would not be doing this. He sounds like a prattling child that blames others for his misfortune. We Amarr cared enough to raise arms over hearing of the bonus change and we were heard. Don't blame us for your shortcomings. We didn't like the change, so we rose hell over it. Simple as that. Is this because I pointed out on a different thread that you hadn't understood the blatant sarcasm in a post I made and proceeded to post abuse at me ? If you look at some earlier posts you will see the post I was referring to when I made my sarcastic post about reload speed reduction been added to Amarrian weapons instead of the Heat Build up reduction. Do you get it yet or was explaining it twice not sufficient ?? This thread is the Caldari trying to get the rubbish new bonus we have been given based on your feedback changed back to one that is actually useful. The fact is the reason i mentioned 1 specific person is because his thread was the one that posted suggestions for other racial bonuses which were heeded by CCP and was liked by many of your ilk. Lea quite frankly you sound like a bit of a prick who starts throwing insults at people with very little reason ... maybe My OP was a bit whingey but that is because the new bonus is an absolute joke and if your justifying your own QQ about the loss of the old heat reduction bonus then you equally have to accept my QQ about the new reload reduction bonus And honestly, I had no idea until now that it was you as the same person that made the sarcasm joke. Post abuse you? Please. You seem to have skin made of paper; easily hurt. Imo, you should stop arguing with me and start conversing with your Caldari brothers and try to figure out exactly what you want done. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
Squagga The State Protectorate 178	Posted - 2014.02.08 15:29:00 - [56] - Quote iOwn AE Glitchers wrote: Universal assault bonus needs to be a damage boost to distinguish it's slayer role over logistic slayers How is reload speed going to fix that? CCP is ***** ******. Caldari needs a shield boost and damage boost like the original stats were. Ok I can definately agree with this. The logis are getting nerfs. Yeah it sucks but hey people like me abused that situation. Sorry. I don't know if assaults need a buff if logis are getting a nerf. What I figured we were mostly talking about is what racial bonus we want? Afterall the reason why we're talking about this is because of the Amarr racial bonus for their rifle. Yes I want my shield bonus. I want a racial damage bonus to my rifle but maybe a shorter spool time would help things out Reloading, the silent killer.
iOwn AE Glitchers Kinsho Swords Caldari State 46	Posted - 2014.02.08 15:33:00 - [57] - Quote Squagga wrote: iOwn AE Glitchers wrote: Universal assault bonus needs to be a damage boost to distinguish it's slayer role over logistic slayers How is reload speed going to fix that? CCP is ***** ******. Caldari needs a shield boost and damage boost like the original stats were. Ok I can definately agree with this. The logis are getting nerfs. Yeah it sucks but hey people like me abused that situation. Sorry. I don't know if assaults need a buff if logis are getting a nerf. What I figured we were mostly talking about is what racial bonus we want? Afterall the reason why we're talking about this is because of the Amarr racial bonus for their rifle. Yes I want my shield bonus. I want a racial damage bonus to my rifle but maybe a shorter spool time would help things out How exactly are logis getting nerfed again? What's stopping me from a triple damage mod armor tanked cal logi standing in triage hives that now REP FASTER THAN EVER?
Neo Rinzler Commando Perkone Caldari State 9	Posted - 2014.02.08 15:48:00 - [58] - Quote Squagga wrote: iOwn AE Glitchers wrote: Universal assault bonus needs to be a damage boost to distinguish it's slayer role over logistic slayers How is reload speed going to fix that? CCP is ***** ******. Caldari needs a shield boost and damage boost like the original stats were. Ok I can definately agree with this. The logis are getting nerfs. Yeah it sucks but hey people like me abused that situation. Sorry. I don't know if assaults need a buff if logis are getting a nerf. What I figured we were mostly talking about is what racial bonus we want? Afterall the reason why we're talking about this is because of the Amarr racial bonus for their rifle. Yes I want my shield bonus. I want a racial damage bonus to my rifle but maybe a shorter spool time would help things out Hey post me a pub channel Lea is on I want to speak to him directly I'm going to Edit the Title and some of the OP to include some possible alternatives and get votes on them so post suggestions So far I have 2% ROF increase Per Level 10% Spool up time reduction per level (This only affects the RR and Charge Sniper Rifle) 2% Increase of Effective Range of Hybrid weaponry Per Level 2% damage Increase of Hybrid weaponry per level They are just placeholders and not the actual proposed alternatives so everythign from the % to the actual bonus itself is open to change
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven 1288	Posted - 2014.02.08 15:52:00 - [59] - Quote If you want to speak to me in a civil manner, I will gladly entertain you. If you want to chat just to b!tch and moan, well....I will entertain that as well. Be warned though....if it is the latter, be prepared for some backlash. I do not bite my tongue. If you want, I will log on in 10 minutes and send you a chat invite. We can talk there. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
iOwn AE Glitchers Kinsho Swords Caldari State 46	Posted - 2014.02.08 15:53:00 - [60] - Quote There was NOTHING wrong with the original bonuses 2% to ROF OR DAMAGE per level 5% to shield extender efficacy per level only CCP can take a good idea and then trash it

Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2012	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:00:00 - [61] - Quote iOwn AE Glitchers wrote: There was NOTHING wrong with the original bonuses 2% to ROF OR DAMAGE per level 5% to shield extender efficacy per level only CCP can take a good idea and then trash it CCP is trying to get away from straight damage bonuses, so that's a no go. It also seems they are trying to give Assaults weapon bonuses, and not module bonuses, so a shield extender bonus is out as well. My suggestion would be the proposed reload bonus, with a small spool time reduction on top. +5% reload speed and -5% spool time for hybrid rail weapons per level? Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II MAG ~ Seryi Volk Executive Response
Squagga The State Protectorate 180	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:13:00 - [62] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: iOwn AE Glitchers wrote: There was NOTHING wrong with the original bonuses 2% to ROF OR DAMAGE per level 5% to shield extender efficacy per level only CCP can take a good idea and then trash it CCP is trying to get away from straight damage bonuses, so that's a no go. It also seems they are trying to give Assaults weapon bonuses, and not module bonuses, so a shield extender bonus is out as well. My suggestion would be the proposed reload bonus, with a small spool time reduction on top. +5% reload speed and -5% spool time for hybrid rail weapons per level? Unfortunately he/she is right about the damage bonus. It just sounds unfeasible. The shield bonus however shouldn't be. But that's well what it is. I think that the reduction to spool up time would help things a little Reloading, the silent killer.
Squagga The State Protectorate 180	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:16:00 - [63] - Quote iOwn AE Glitchers wrote: Squagga wrote: iOwn AE Glitchers wrote: Universal assault bonus needs to be a damage boost to distinguish it's slayer role over logistic slayers How is reload speed going to fix that? CCP is ***** ******. Caldari needs a shield boost and damage boost like the original stats were. Ok I can definately agree with this. The logis are getting nerfs. Yeah it sucks but hey people like me abused that situation. Sorry. I don't know if assaults need a buff if logis are getting a nerf. What I figured we were mostly talking about is what racial bonus we want? Afterall the reason why we're talking about this is because of the Amarr racial bonus for their rifle. Yes I want my shield bonus. I want a racial damage bonus to my rifle but maybe a shorter spool time would help things out How exactly are logis getting nerfed again? What's stopping me from a triple damage mod armor tanked cal logi standing in triage hives that now REP FASTER THAN EVER? Ok. Then let's focus on what buff the assault class should be Reloading, the silent killer.
Ryme Intrinseca 613	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:13:00 - [64] - Quote I don't have a single SP in Cal assault but I think this bonus is a bit unfair. The Ama and Min bonuses fundamentally change how you can use your weapon. A reload bonus changes basically nothing. What would be better? Maybe a slightly lower charge time? Or even a slight range increase? Both fit nicely with Caldari tech/doctrine. Either way, it has to be just enough make a difference but not so much that it's OP, if that's possible.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 3121	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:18:00 - [65] - Quote I'm beginning to not even care anymore. Is it happening to me? Surely I can't be turning into a bitter vet. Surely. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Floyd20 Azizora L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 5	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:22:00 - [66] - Quote what about a kick/sway bonus? make the guns better when aiming down sight, combined with spool up time or maybe a small cpu reduction on top of assualt bonus (more cpu means better shield tank).
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1133	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:23:00 - [67] - Quote we already had consensus on the DPS bonuses for the DPS class... Other then a couple yellow suit running people and heat gun breaking mechanic bonus supporters WELL OVER 60% of the community was happy with the DPS bonuses on a DPS class.. Now we get the same bonuses that they had on Chromosome blog's about the Assault? These bonuses unless they tweak the entire game around them will kill the class... Hail Scout and Heavy 514 in 1.8. o7
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2522	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:47:00 - [68] - Quote Why cant we caldari have nice things You can bomb it, you can strafe it, you can cover it with poison, you can turn it into glass, but you don't own it unles
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 424	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:48:00 - [69] - Quote Someone may of said this but RR are getting a nerd in 1.8 but Caldari new bonus applies to them, i don't get that, Keep the caldari bonus where it is because the shield extender HP numbers are garbage, if they get rid of the current bonus they need to add more HP to shield extenders as well
Floyd20 Azizora L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 5	Posted - 2014.02.08 18:08:00 - [70] - Quote they are nerfing more then just the rail rifle. i just cant imagine the reload bonus being useful unless they cut the clip by 50% or so. i am guessing they want to make the RR less good in close range, yet the cal assualt bonus will be most useful in that range? give it to the gallente, take the kick reduction in exchange.

Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 3123	Posted - 2014.02.08 18:20:00 - [71] - Quote Floyd20 Azizora wrote: they are nerfing more then just the rail rifle. i just cant imagine the reload bonus being useful unless they cut the clip by 50% or so. i am guessing they want to make the RR less good in close range, yet the cal assualt bonus will be most useful in that range? give it to the gallente, take the kick reduction in exchange. Yes, the community cried and they listened. I'm shocked actually. I didn't think they would listen to the whiny brats who will vacate this place once Destiny arrives. I said this to a friend earlier and its the truth...the folks with weaker resolves are ruining this game. I will slow my investment into this game. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 3123	Posted - 2014.02.08 18:26:00 - [72] - Quote and for the OP...you have to understand, it wasn't the amarrians complaining about the ROF. It was bandwagon hoppers who cried about it. Folks like Cat Merc and many others who brought up ridiculous reasons why it should be nerfed. They are the ones who lead CCP down this stupid road. And they will continue to do so. I have watched this forum change aspects of the game for the worse. The proof in the pudding is scanners and tanks. No matter what people will say or how much they omit from memory, their constant threads pushing stupid ideas is what caused CCP to bring this about. They are trying to keep the players happy and the folks who talk in the forums really are short sighted and never think of the impacts. Most just want to deal with it as it arrives, never looking to the future for the possibility and the probability. Until they stop listening to such whiny console players who are fickle as a thread of silk rope, we will continue this crazy formula of introduction, mass consumption, threads crying for nerfs and CCP obliging and making drastic changes to the game itself. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 202	Posted - 2014.02.08 18:31:00 - [73] - Quote Signed I want +2% rof and my +5% shield extenders The best part of waking up, is whiskey in my cuuuuup!
Midas Fool Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 339	Posted - 2014.02.08 18:35:00 - [74] - Quote Is this a joke? I've really missed the reload bonus. -100 from this Cal Assault. +25 Kill Assist...+25 Kill Assist...+25 Kill Assist...NO HOW WHY
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 325	Posted - 2014.02.08 18:38:00 - [75] - Quote My problem is that the RoF bonus is a Commando bonus. That's one of the 2 big things about being a commando. You have 2 light weapons and you get the reload speed (Or at least it was before 1.8 stats). Now we have the Caldari Assault emulating the commando bonus. As others have said, it also is not very Caldari. The Caldari value efficiency. I highly doubt they would be in a rush to churn through ammo and get the fast reloads in. Other ideas could be - Increased optimal range with weapons per level. - Reduced ammunition drain while firing weapons. - Increased ammo replenishment from nanohives - Increased ammo replenishment speed Just throwing random ideas out but the first part of my post is the most important part.
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 178	Posted - 2014.02.08 18:38:00 - [76] - Quote I rather have the shield regeneration.. that was applied without modules on caldari assault Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
Stupid Blueberry Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 89	Posted - 2014.02.08 18:43:00 - [77] - Quote Neo Rinzler wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813024#post1813024 The Amarrians complained about the ROF because it wouldn't affect the semi auto SCR and thus the bonuses have been completely changed to give them their laser heat build up bonus back and look at what the Caldari Assault bonus now is .. Reload Speed Increase Please sign the petition below to get the bonus changed because quite frankly it suits neither the Assault Class nor the Caldari Playstyle Signed EDIT:- Please post Alternative Bonuses and vote the ones you like the sound of so we can start getting the reload speed bonus changed and I'll begin adding the more popular ones below o7 Signed. That role bonus is ********, yo.
iOwn AE Glitchers Kinsho Swords Caldari State 54	Posted - 2014.02.08 18:57:00 - [78] - Quote Midas Fool wrote: Is this a joke? I've really missed the reload bonus. -100 from this Cal Assault. The reload bonus didn't even work in early uprising you filthy liar
Squagga The State Protectorate 184	Posted - 2014.02.08 19:22:00 - [79] - Quote Well .. increased RoF with a nerf to damage would ... wait I might actually like this Reloading, the silent killer.
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 205	Posted - 2014.02.08 19:58:00 - [80] - Quote Or +5% to effective range to rail weapon per level The best part of waking up, is whiskey in my cuuuuup!

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8957	Posted - 2014.02.08 20:01:00 - [81] - Quote Assaults are about offensive capabilities, therefore they should have bonuses to increase weapon effectiveness. HP related things fit better on sentinels, not assaults. That being said, I don't think the reload bonus is nearly as appealing as some of the others, I would bundle (kind of like how Minmatar scout is getting hacking speed and knife damage bundled in one bonus) it with an ammo reserves bonus, and a kick reduction bonus to make it more useful. Maybe even an effective range bonus, if the rail weapons get an effective range reduction to compensate. I guess I would also be fine with the reload bonus being bundled with a 3% shield module efficacy or recharge bonus, as long as they also keep a weapon related bonus for hybrid-railgun weapons. Before you say "don't suggest bonuses for a class you don't use", I have a Caldari assault alt account which I use with rail rifles and will use for testing more Caldari weapon. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1347	Posted - 2014.02.08 20:03:00 - [82] - Quote It should at least be a 5% range increase per level to hybrids, if not 7.5%. "Always fight dirty, the victor writes history" Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
SUPERTOASTER 789 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 11	Posted - 2014.02.08 20:10:00 - [83] - Quote Signed. back to the old why 5+ to hp to shields plz TOAST for all
SUPERTOASTER 789 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 11	Posted - 2014.02.08 20:11:00 - [84] - Quote SUPERTOASTER 789 wrote: Signed. back to the old why 5+ to hp to shields plz cal are already gimped we don't need to add on to it TOAST for all
SUPERTOASTER 789 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 11	Posted - 2014.02.08 20:13:00 - [85] - Quote Signed, where already gimped we do need a useless skill TOAST for all
Hired Pinp Intrepidus XI EoN. 11	Posted - 2014.02.08 20:21:00 - [86] - Quote Signed. Giving our shields even more of a crutch as if they want us to begin armor tanking like everyone else.
DANJA DOM FREE AGENTS LP 7	Posted - 2014.02.09 16:23:00 - [87] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: DANJA DOM wrote: For some reason CCP hates caldari, they take giant dumps on us. But i'm happy about the amarr assault bonus staying :) My viziam will be happier. CCP... hates... Caldari? Did you honestly just say that? I point to you FG. SL. Railgun. CalLogi. Shields in general for most of the game's lifespan to date. Pre-nerf swarms. Current Gunnlogi. And of course, the RR. Most QQ inducing weapon since the Flaylock. True, but i was misleading in what i said, i meant ccp hates caldari ASSAULT. "Rules were made to be broken"
KrazyEyeKilla Nyain San Renegade Alliance 30	Posted - 2014.02.09 16:28:00 - [88] - Quote Signed
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1144	Posted - 2014.02.09 16:52:00 - [89] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Assaults are about offensive capabilities, therefore they should have bonuses to increase weapon effectiveness. HP related things fit better on sentinels, not assaults. That being said, I don't think the reload bonus is nearly as appealing as some of the others, I would bundle (kind of like how Minmatar scout is getting hacking speed and knife damage bundled in one bonus) it with an ammo reserves bonus, and a kick reduction bonus to make it more useful. Maybe even an effective range bonus, if the rail weapons get an effective range reduction to compensate. I guess I would also be fine with the reload bonus being bundled with a 3% shield module efficacy or recharge bonus, as long as they also keep a weapon related bonus for hybrid-railgun weapons. Before you say "don't suggest bonuses for a class you don't use", I have a Caldari assault alt account which I use with rail rifles and will use for testing more Caldari weapon. The bonuses in general don't balance. If the logi was having survivability issues with the DPS class having DPS bonuses.. Then there should of been tank bonuses added to their suit. These bonuses purposed are nothing but exact replica's of the bonuses offered to us in Chromosome for the Uprising Launch. And have never made the suit competitive. That being said the reload bonus that the Caldari Assault's did enjoy through the beginnings of Uprising was extremely strong, and would give them near instant reload with their main weapons paired with Reload skill speed to 5 of the weapon being used. So much so that CCP had to remove the bonus from the suit, Lower the Skill Multiplier on Reload Weapon skills and reimburse the skill points from the multiplier changes. The Reload bonus by first glance like in Chromosome theory crafting seems like a disadvantageous one but when everything is up it pretty much eliminates any need to switch weapons as reloading is a faster option. Allowing a lot of people to not even fit a sidearm.
Nirwanda Vaughns 320	Posted - 2014.02.09 16:53:00 - [90] - Quote after usign a commando with lv5 skill and lv5 rapid reload then trust me. its extremely noticable and when you're in the middle of a firefight you're going to have a very good advantage over others. when a gun can do 400dps (given accuracy, resists, skills ect) and you can relaod a second faster than the guy opposite you then that can be the deal breaker. Proto and proud!!

NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 181	Posted - 2014.02.09 16:57:00 - [91] - Quote I wouldn't mind the reload bonus IF!! I get to keep a fast shield recharge, and if they DON"T NERF THE RAIL RIFFLE INTO A SQUIRT GUN. CCP already said the Rail Gun is getting a big nerf.. so a reload bonus to a weapon they are making crap sounds horrible.. I like fast reload.. but only if the weapon is sound. Keep the RR good, up the shield recharge.. and us Cal suits will still be happy campers. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!


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