The nerf is needed to make the logi a bit more useful and also specalized so each racial suit has a strength

Also at least i hope it cuts down on scan514 since everyone has one

Nerf all equipment then give racial logo bonuses such that equipment then perform at somewhat comparable levels. This is a buff. Right
At least the general logo bonus is useful

Incentive to use a racial suit with racial equipment

You can choose to ignore it

I can understand a nerf to scanners, but the others? Naw . Why couldn't they retain their original stats? Would make logis REALLY vital

I can understand a nerf to scanners, but the others? Naw . Why couldn't they retain their original stats? Would make logis REALLY vital

ill sign yours if you sign a gallente one when we make it this is just crap all around. PS CCP in a fps game tight ads fire good but tight hipfire in cqc bad.

Not a fan of the CalAssault bonus at all...

Recommend: reduction in rail tech spool time per level and dispersion while in ADS.

I think I love you

EDIT:

The bonuses aren't perfect, but certainly a step in the right direction.

I proposed a reload bonus for Caldari assault before, but it was rather unpopular. I would recommend pairing it with something else like recoil reduction, and/or ammo reserve increase. The Minmatar scout will have more than one bonus, please do the same with the Caldari assault. No one will get excited for this bonus.

The Gallente one you guys are going with seems like won't help the shotgun or, plasma cannon (unless maybe it tightens shotgun spread, IDK if shotgunners would want tighter spread or not though). Only AR users might benefit.

I LOVE the Amarr and Minmatar bonuses. Perfect.
EDIT 2: Just noticed the Minmatar explosive thing, maybe should be to ammo reserves instead of clip size; +1 explosive clip size per level sounds like it could be incredibly OP, as awesome as it sounds.

As for logis, many find those bonuses restrictive, but I like them. When every race has at least 2 equipment type, the bonus should be expanded to include 2 equipment. Example:

Minmatar could get bonus to repair tools and depoyable explosives (REs and PMs).

Caldari can get bonus to nanohives nanine injectors.

Gallente can get bonus to active scanner and [INSERT NEW EQUIPMENT].

Amarr can get a bonus to drop uplinks and [INSERT NEW EQUIPMENT].

Anyway, thank you.

Only signing this petition for my friends Kal Kronos and Squagga.

If I were to just go off of OP's rant, I would not be doing this. He sounds like a prattling child that blames others for his misfortune. We Amarr cared enough to raise arms over hearing of the bonus change and we were heard. Don't blame us for your shortcomings. We didn't like the change, so we rose hell over it. Simple as that.

Yeah, you Caldari guys are divided on what you want. Squagga is right; you need to find a common ground. OP is proposing it change to ROF bonus, though I see he is the only one wanting that. At least with the Amarr bonus, it was much simpler; one bonus changed, one bonus we wanted back. It seems that you guys are divided on the issue.

Is this because I pointed out on a different thread that you hadn't understood the blatant sarcasm in a post I made and proceeded to post abuse at me ? If you look at some earlier posts you will see the post I was referring to when I made my sarcastic post about reload speed reduction been added to Amarrian weapons instead of the Heat Build up reduction. Do you get it yet or was explaining it twice not sufficient ??

This thread is the Caldari trying to get the rubbish new bonus we have been given based on your feedback changed back to one that is actually useful. The fact is the reason i mentioned 1 specific person is because his thread was the one that posted suggestions for other racial bonuses which were heeded by CCP and was liked by many of your ilk.

Lea quite frankly you sound like a bit of a prick who starts throwing insults at people with very little reason ... maybe My OP was a bit whingey but that is because the new bonus is an absolute joke and if your justifying your own QQ about the loss of the old heat reduction bonus then you equally have to accept my QQ about the new reload reduction bonus

Is this because I pointed out on a different thread that you hadn't understood the blatant sarcasm in a post I made and proceeded to post abuse at me ? If you look at some earlier posts you will see the post I was referring to when I made my sarcastic post about reload speed reduction been added to Amarrian weapons instead of the Heat Build up reduction. Do you get it yet or was explaining it twice not sufficient ??

This thread is the Caldari trying to get the rubbish new bonus we have been given based on your feedback changed back to one that is actually useful. The fact is the reason i mentioned 1 specific person is because his thread was the one that posted suggestions for other racial bonuses which were heeded by CCP and was liked by many of your ilk.

Lea quite frankly you sound like a bit of a prick who starts throwing insults at people with very little reason ... maybe My OP was a bit whingey but that is because the new bonus is an absolute joke and if your justifying your own QQ about the loss of the old heat reduction bonus then you equally have to accept my QQ about the new reload reduction bonus

Is this because I pointed out on a different thread that you hadn't understood the blatant sarcasm in a post I made and proceeded to post abuse at me ? If you look at some earlier posts you will see the post I was referring to when I made my sarcastic post about reload speed reduction been added to Amarrian weapons instead of the Heat Build up reduction. Do you get it yet or was explaining it twice not sufficient ??

This thread is the Caldari trying to get the rubbish new bonus we have been given based on your feedback changed back to one that is actually useful. The fact is the reason i mentioned 1 specific person is because his thread was the one that posted suggestions for other racial bonuses which were heeded by CCP and was liked by many of your ilk.

Lea quite frankly you sound like a bit of a prick who starts throwing insults at people with very little reason ... maybe My OP was a bit whingey but that is because the new bonus is an absolute joke and if your justifying your own QQ about the loss of the old heat reduction bonus then you equally have to accept my QQ about the new reload reduction bonus

Universal assault bonus needs to be a damage boost to distinguish it's slayer role over logistic slayers

How is reload speed going to fix that? CCP is ******* ********.

Caldari needs a shield boost and damage boost like the original stats were.

Ok I can definately agree with this. The logis are getting nerfs. Yeah it sucks but hey people like me abused that situation. Sorry. I don't know if assaults need a buff if logis are getting a nerf. What I figured we were mostly talking about is what racial bonus we want? Afterall the reason why we're talking about this is because of the Amarr racial bonus for their rifle. Yes I want my shield bonus. I want a racial damage bonus to my rifle but maybe a shorter spool time would help things out

Ok I can definately agree with this. The logis are getting nerfs. Yeah it sucks but hey people like me abused that situation. Sorry. I don't know if assaults need a buff if logis are getting a nerf. What I figured we were mostly talking about is what racial bonus we want? Afterall the reason why we're talking about this is because of the Amarr racial bonus for their rifle. Yes I want my shield bonus. I want a racial damage bonus to my rifle but maybe a shorter spool time would help things out