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Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1275	Posted - 2014.02.07 22:30:00 - [31] - Quote Marlin Kirby wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: 3. People didn't stop using the TAC because of ROF nerf. They did so because of the horrendous nerf to that weapon's recoil. I know...I used the TAC exclusively up until it happened, even through the dominance of the Creodron breach AR in Mordu's Private Trials. I love my semi-auto weapons. I didn't start using the TAC until after it got nerfed and the recoil and hip fire made me cry. I am so sorry about that, bud. No one told you it was awful? No warning at all? Yeah, I had to put it down after they over-nerfed that recoil. I like precision weapons and the TAC turned into the furthest thing from one. I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, I swear. It made me sad/bitter. Lol. Oh, I knew it was nerfed. Unforchantly CCP's infamous nerfing track record was not known to me at the time. I figured "it couldn't be that bad." .......it was that bad. What happened to the "captain" in your name? I miss that name! Lol! PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 331	Posted - 2014.02.07 22:46:00 - [32] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: What happened to the "captain" in your name? I miss that name! Lol! ???????? Who are you? And how did you know I was CptKirby? I guess the KEQ under my name gave it away. I figured having the title "Captain" in game that had actual titled ranks was a little odd. So I figured I'd roleplay a little and dropped it for this game. "Marlin" was named after my local baseball team. I guess I'm Director Kirby or Dir. Kirby now. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6768	Posted - 2014.02.07 23:05:00 - [33] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: xSir Campsalotx wrote: Yes per trigger cr does more but not dps wise, also im pretty sure heat build up is per second not per shot, and lol skilled there were hardly any SCR users before auto aim and the few that did use it were meh. Just to show I have no bias in this Prof 4 SCR, prof 2 Duvolle, prof 3 rail, prof 3 CR. Do I think it's OP... Only on the Amarr assualt which is how it should be but Im almost certain many people use modded controllers. Look at the old duvolle tac its rof got reduced and surprise everyone stops using it. 1. Again, to accuse people that run it with the Amarr assault bonus as you "being certain many people use modded controllers" is a false statement, an accusation that you CANNOT prove, and a slap in the face to any SCR user worth their salt who have been in it since day 1. Ignorance at its finest. 2. There are less skilled SCR users than before, with the emergence of the CR and the RR. Fact. Just take a look at the killfeeds next time you are in game. 3. People didn't stop using the TAC because of ROF nerf. They did so because of the horrendous nerf to that weapon's recoil. I know...I used the TAC exclusively up until it happened, even through the dominance of the Creodron breach AR in Mordu's Private Trials. I love my semi-auto weapons. 4. Heat build up is technically per shot with continuous fire, be it fast or slow. If you keep firing without a pause in between, you WILL pop. For someone who has skils invested in each, man...you have no idea what you are talking about in regard to the SCR. Best to either stay quiet or you know, actually TEST your theory before jumping on here with an opinion. I don't know if this guys knows that every SCR users in this thread has been using one since Uprising 1.0 "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
zibathy numbertwo Nox Aeterna Security 433	Posted - 2014.02.07 23:12:00 - [34] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: 1) You're in a low HP suit and got OHK'ed - I'd recommend you slap some plates on that sucker Let me slap some complex armor plates on my scout suit real fast... oh wait... Well let me use some ferroscale plates... at std and ADV only one plate with gal. scout... http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Armor_Plates75 armor... Huh. And minmatar is shield tanked which is what the SCR is good against. Huh. Well... Maybe if I believe hard enough I will have more low slots to put on plates? AR Dmg: 34, RoF: 750 RPM, DPS: 425, RR Dmg: 55, RoF: 461 RPM, DPS: 422, + double the range. Balanced.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 331	Posted - 2014.02.07 23:18:00 - [35] - Quote Marlin Kirby wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: What happened to the "captain" in your name? I miss that name! Lol! ???????? Who are you? And how did you know I was CptKirby? I guess the KEQ under my name gave it away. I figured having the title "Captain" in game that had actual titled ranks was a little odd. So I figured I'd roleplay a little and dropped it for this game. "Marlin" was named after my local baseball team. I guess I'm Director Kirby or Dir. Kirby now. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1114	Posted - 2014.02.07 23:20:00 - [36] - Quote Magnus Amadeuss wrote: CR > ScR ease of use CR > ScR overheat CR > ScR sustained DPS (more than double) CR > ScR fitting requirements ScR > CR can hold charge shot indefinitely without overheating ScR > CR DPS ScR > CR charged shot ScR > CR range. Yeah that looks pretty even to me. Fixed* STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado, Cannabis Sativa Connoisseur
Aisha Ctarl Fatal Absolution Public Disorder. 3206	Posted - 2014.02.07 23:34:00 - [37] - Quote zibathy numbertwo wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: 1) You're in a low HP suit and got OHK'ed - I'd recommend you slap some plates on that sucker Let me slap some complex armor plates on my scout suit real fast... oh wait... Well let me use some ferroscale plates... at std and ADV only one plate with gal. scout... http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Armor_Plates75 armor... Huh. And minmatar is shield tanked which is what the SCR is good against. Huh. Well... Maybe if I believe hard enough I will have more low slots to put on plates? Dude, that wasn't even a rebuttal. WEAK I'm a narcissist, LIKE MY POSTS =^,.,^=
xSir Campsalotx G0DS AM0NG MEN 108	Posted - 2014.02.07 23:38:00 - [38] - Quote 1.If you'd care to read before replying you may have noticed I said its only OP on an Amarr assualt suit as it should be, never did I write people who run Amarr assualts use modded controllers but merely stated "I'm almost certain many people use modded controllers" (as this clearly shows, my statement wasnt directed at any part of the playerbase based on suit usage but just as a general,nonspecific statement)That is my first and foremost point, pointing out ignorance in this case is both hypocritical, shows your undeserved hubris and is highly ironic. 2. Relevance? 3. Just to be clear because you used it, your opinion represents that of an entire playerbase... Ok I realize when I'm at my match When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom. I forget the chapter. 4. Yes on this point I have,(tested it) sometimes I can only fire 19 times and if I really try to force it I can get 22 shots off. These results are dependent of course on fatigue and my own personal aptitude. I have duplicated these results multiple times and of course are subject to human error.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 659	Posted - 2014.02.07 23:41:00 - [39] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: My only beef with SCR is your ability to out Burst-DPS a shotgun/cr/knife user that can't 1hko you and your 1100 HP. You can instantly deal 1700 damage(thats my average OH- at 16 shots, dealing 78 damage base, not to mention the buildup of tiers and dmg mods) You have high ehp, ALONG WITH supreme gank. The very existence of Amarr outmodes any reason for running a minmatar setup. Really.....as I see it the massive disparity between sprint speed, Minmatar capacity for gank, and CR being outright top dog out to 60m....... I don't ever see why the Minmatar players would ever have a reason to ***. Because the sprint speed means fk all, for at least the assault suit. But yeah CR and SMG are fantastic weapons so are the SP and ScR though too. One nice thing about Dust is I think every race has something good going on for it Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4450	Posted - 2014.02.07 23:44:00 - [40] - Quote xSir Campsalotx wrote: Yes per trigger cr does more but not dps wise, also im pretty sure heat build up is per second not per shot, and lol skilled there were hardly any SCR users before auto aim and the few that did use it were meh. Just to show I have no bias in this Prof 4 SCR, prof 2 Duvolle, prof 3 rail, prof 3 CR. Do I think it's OP... Only on the Amarr assualt which is how it should be but Im almost certain many people use modded controllers. Look at the old duvolle tac its rof got reduced and surprise everyone stops using it. I used SCR before. Even without AA, i was better than Meh... BTW i dont use modded controllers,but the greatest advantage a SCR can give you, which is the CHARGED shot. Also the ONLY reason to use it over a CR, with better bonuses to damage and no overheat, joke of fitting requirements , a sight that helps achieve precision shots at its intended range and monster like Hipfire. AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG

xSir Campsalotx G0DS AM0NG MEN 108	Posted - 2014.02.07 23:49:00 - [41] - Quote You sir are an exception, like saying no one makes it to the NBA of course it's untrue i made the statement to point out the rarity of a skilled user. An exaggeration if you will.
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4450	Posted - 2014.02.07 23:57:00 - [42] - Quote xSir Campsalotx wrote: You sir are an exception, like saying no one makes it to the NBA of course it's untrue i made the statement to point out the rarity of a skilled user. An exaggeration if you will. Which is nowadays actually pretty common. People just flock into the easiest weapon to kill with to cover for the lack of skill vs more skilled players.This is common, not only in DUST514. I was mostly referring to my personal experience, people have actually accused me of using modded controllers , EVEN when they get 1HKO'd by a single charged shot to the head. I mean.Im sorry,but thats just the way it is, the SCR rifle provides a good incentive for good aiming, and believe me, achieving this constantly with a 400HP amarr assault even Vs proto takes, maybe not skill (im not an 3p33n stroker ) But definitely PRACTICE....... AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1280	Posted - 2014.02.08 00:04:00 - [43] - Quote Marlin Kirby wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: What happened to the "captain" in your name? I miss that name! Lol! ???????? Who are you? And how did you know I was CptKirby? I guess the KEQ under my name gave it away. I figured having the title "Captain" in game that had actual titled ranks was a little odd. So I figured I'd roleplay a little and dropped it for this game. "Marlin" was named after my local baseball team. I guess I'm Director Kirby or Dir. Kirby now. I'm Los2525 from ^D^ in MAG, silly. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4450	Posted - 2014.02.08 00:08:00 - [44] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: What happened to the "captain" in your name? I miss that name! Lol! ???????? Who are you? And how did you know I was CptKirby? I guess the KEQ under my name gave it away. I figured having the title "Captain" in game that had actual titled ranks was a little odd. So I figured I'd roleplay a little and dropped it for this game. "Marlin" was named after my local baseball team. I guess I'm Director Kirby or Dir. Kirby now. I'm Los2525 from ^D^ in MAG, silly. WOW! waht up LOS! long time no see! just kidding. AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG
Mortedeamor 1359	Posted - 2014.02.08 00:10:00 - [45] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: My only beef with SCR is your ability to out Burst-DPS a shotgun/cr/knife user that can't 1hko you and your 1100 HP. You can instantly deal 1700 damage(thats my average OH- at 16 shots, dealing 78 damage base, not to mention the buildup of tiers and dmg mods) You have high ehp, ALONG WITH supreme gank. The very existence of Amarr outmodes any reason for running a minmatar setup. If I have 1100 eHP on an Advanced Amarr suit there's a problem that CCP needs to look into because I'd be a hacker. If I have 1100 eHP on an Amarr Proto Assault a.k0, there is also a problem so I'm gonna go ahead and stop you from spreading that BS right now. Usually when a SCR user is snuck up on by a NK, CR, or Shotgun user, the SCR user won't take the time to charge a shot, but simply spam in the general direction of the threat - if he/she takes out the NK, CR, or Shotgun user, then by all means that poor sap sucks complete ass at the game. Supreme Tank AND Gank is rewarded to the Gallente as well there chief. Once again - excuses and butt hurt. WOOOA hold your horses since when does the amar proto have 1000 or over ehp? what world are you living in op shove off with your tears more-tae-dee-um-more stop asking how to pronounce my name its quite irritating no one fights on even ground
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4509	Posted - 2014.02.08 01:06:00 - [46] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: 4) The SCR user that killed you is simply proficient in this weapon and has become very deadly with it - in short he/she is better than you and you got out skilled Sorry to burst your bubble, but some players are just more skilled with it than others; if you die to one before you even know what is going on, don't immediately label them as a "modded controller user," maybe they have just been using it since 5.14.13 and is their bread and butter. Everyone and their grandmothers know that ALL of the rifles are overpowered. So arguing about the SCR being un-balanced (which it isn't, but neither is the AR, CR, or RR) is futile. But this should never inside any respectable balance discussion. That would mean that 1.6 Swarm Launchers were balanced. The pilots who were dieing before they even know what was going on were dieing to me simply because it's been my bread and butter since I started playing. That would mean that 1.2 Flaylock pistols were balanced simply because it's someone's bread and butter, and so on, and so forth for every other item that became overpowered in one point in time. If it is possible, then it's broken. Want to know how to make a strike-through? [s[Example[/s] Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1503	Posted - 2014.02.08 01:32:00 - [47] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: I'm getting real sick and tired of people coming on these forums and accusing SCR users of being modded controller users. It's really starting to come across as an excuse and general butt hurt by the lesser skilled DUST population. Not all SCR users use modded controllers - personally I see no need for it. If you got killed by a SCR faster than your mind could register it is probably due to one or more of the following. 1) You're in a low HP suit and got OHK'ed - I'd recommend you slap some plates on that sucker 2) You're standing still in the open - You're a SCR user's wet dream 3) You're in a shield tanked suit - yes this is similar to number one 4) The SCR user that killed you is simply proficient in this weapon and has become very deadly with it - in short he/she is better than you and you got out skilled Sorry to burst your bubble, but some players are just more skilled with it than others; if you die to one before you even know what is going on, don't immediately label them as a "modded controller user," maybe they have just been using it since 5.14.13 and is their bread and butter. LOLLOLOLOL... watch this: If you got killed by a CR faster than your mind could register it is probably due to one or more of the following. 1) You're in a low HP suit and got OHK'ed - I'd recommend you slap some shield extenders on that sucker 2) You're standing still in the open - You're a CR user's wet dream 3) You're in an armor tanked suit - yes this is similar to number one 4) The CR user that killed you is simply proficient in this weapon and has become very deadly with it - in short he/she is better than you and you got out skilled so, why does everyone scream OP on CR when SCR = CR, but SCR has more range? Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
Aisha Ctarl Fatal Absolution Public Disorder. 3214	Posted - 2014.02.08 01:36:00 - [48] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: I'm getting real sick and tired of people coming on these forums and accusing SCR users of being modded controller users. It's really starting to come across as an excuse and general butt hurt by the lesser skilled DUST population. Not all SCR users use modded controllers - personally I see no need for it. If you got killed by a SCR faster than your mind could register it is probably due to one or more of the following. 1) You're in a low HP suit and got OHK'ed - I'd recommend you slap some plates on that sucker 2) You're standing still in the open - You're a SCR user's wet dream 3) You're in a shield tanked suit - yes this is similar to number one 4) The SCR user that killed you is simply proficient in this weapon and has become very deadly with it - in short he/she is better than you and you got out skilled Sorry to burst your bubble, but some players are just more skilled with it than others; if you die to one before you even know what is going on, don't immediately label them as a "modded controller user," maybe they have just been using it since 5.14.13 and is their bread and butter. LOLLOLOLOL... watch this: If you got killed by a CR faster than your mind could register it is probably due to one or more of the following. 1) You're in a low HP suit and got OHK'ed - I'd recommend you slap some shield extenders on that sucker 2) You're standing still in the open - You're a CR user's wet dream 3) You're in an armor tanked suit - yes this is similar to number one 4) The CR user that killed you is simply proficient in this weapon and has become very deadly with it - in short he/she is better than you and you got out skilled so, why does everyone scream OP on CR when SCR = CR, but SCR has more range? No one ever accuses all CR users of using modded controllers though. I'm a narcissist, LIKE MY POSTS =^,.,^=
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1503	Posted - 2014.02.08 01:37:00 - [49] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: xSir Campsalotx wrote: You sir are an exception, like saying no one makes it to the NBA of course it's untrue i made the statement to point out the rarity of a skilled user. An exaggeration if you will. Which is nowadays actually pretty common. People just flock into the easiest weapon to kill with to cover for the lack of skill vs more skilled players.This is common, not only in DUST514. I was mostly referring to my personal experience, people have actually accused me of using modded controllers , EVEN when they get 1HKO'd by a single charged shot to the head. I mean.Im sorry,but thats just the way it is, the SCR rifle provides a good incentive for good aiming, and believe me, achieving this constantly with a 400HP amarr assault even Vs proto takes, maybe not skill (im not an 3p33n stroker ) But definitely PRACTICE....... man you dnt use a 400 ehp amar suit. My squad and I played you the other day. You were running full advanced gear and Heavy suits with ADV scramblers and possibly damage mods (I know because I had a 1300 ehp heavy get reduced to 400hp from your scramblers) in that galente map. You kept charging objective B (the elevated one) from the CRU. either way. If this holds true for a scambler rifle then the CR could never be OP because it is like a Scr with more downsides and less range. Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4457	Posted - 2014.02.08 01:45:00 - [50] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: man you dnt use a 400 ehp amar suit. My squad and I played you the other day. You were running full advanced gear and Heavy suits with ADV scramblers and possibly damage mods (I know because I had a 1300 ehp heavy get reduced to 400hp from your scramblers) in that galente map. You kept charging objective B (the elevated one) from the CRU. either way. If this holds true for a scambler rifle then the CR could never be OP because it is like a Scr with more downsides and less range. 1st-My ''FULL ADV GEAR;; Amarr suit HAS 400HP XD..... I use 430 EHP Amarr Assault A/1 series. 1 Damage Mod, 1 Precision enhancer , 1 Armor rep and 1 complex dampener. 2nd-We played YESTERDAY 3rd-I HAD To use the heavy suit with SHOTGUN (mind you) since it was the only way to kill the incredible Heavy Spam you ULTRAMARINES were doing (next to the other corp with full proto) 4th- How is a CR a SCR with downsides? The only TRUE ADvantage the SCR has over a CR is the CHARGED SHOT and some RANGE. The CR has better fitting requirements (by far) , no overheat, faster Reload speed ,better hipfire, can shoot 18 bursts per clip uniterrupted , all this and not even getting into how a Standard CR does more damage per R1 Press than a Viziam SCR rifle (32 x 3 = 96 // Viziam 79) So dont give me that SCR > CR bulls* when the only thing we got going for ourselves is the charged shot and fancy design.... AceOfJokers666** [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG

Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 477	Posted - 2014.02.08 01:54:00 - [51] - Quote Not all SCR user use modded controller. But there are people out there that use it, even with the AR (always fire the first shot) and SMG. You can say what you want about Dust,but Dust has an awesome audio, and if you use an HIFI AMP+ PRO HIFI headphone you can "ear" it clearly. Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1280	Posted - 2014.02.08 02:34:00 - [52] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: xSir Campsalotx wrote: You sir are an exception, like saying no one makes it to the NBA of course it's untrue i made the statement to point out the rarity of a skilled user. An exaggeration if you will. Which is nowadays actually pretty common. People just flock into the easiest weapon to kill with to cover for the lack of skill vs more skilled players.This is common, not only in DUST514. I was mostly referring to my personal experience, people have actually accused me of using modded controllers , EVEN when they get 1HKO'd by a single charged shot to the head. I mean.Im sorry,but thats just the way it is, the SCR rifle provides a good incentive for good aiming, and believe me, achieving this constantly with a 400HP amarr assault even Vs proto takes, maybe not skill (im not an 3p33n stroker ) But definitely PRACTICE....... man you dnt use a 400 ehp amar suit. My squad and I played you the other day. You were running full advanced gear and Heavy suits with ADV scramblers and possibly damage mods (I know because I had a 1300 ehp heavy get reduced to 400hp from your scramblers) in that galente map. You kept charging objective B (the elevated one) from the CRU. either way. If this holds true for a scambler rifle then the CR could never be OP because it is like a Scr with more downsides and less range. Please elaborate on exactly what you mean when you say "because it is like a Scr with more downsides and less range". I am having trouble finding the mechanism that makes YOUR CR overheat or ANY of these CR "downsides" you claim. That comment is being nominated for "Worst Counter Reply of the Year". PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6773	Posted - 2014.02.08 02:57:00 - [53] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: True Adamance wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: My only beef with SCR is your ability to out Burst-DPS a shotgun/cr/knife user that can't 1hko you and your 1100 HP. You can instantly deal 1700 damage(thats my average OH- at 16 shots, dealing 78 damage base, not to mention the buildup of tiers and dmg mods) You have high ehp, ALONG WITH supreme gank. The very existence of Amarr outmodes any reason for running a minmatar setup. Really.....as I see it the massive disparity between sprint speed, Minmatar capacity for gank, and CR being outright top dog out to 60m....... I don't ever see why the Minmatar players would ever have a reason to ***. Because the sprint speed means fk all, for at least the assault suit. But yeah CR and SMG are fantastic weapons so are the SP and ScR though too. One nice thing about Dust is I think every race has something good going on for it It means everything to a skirmisher, being able to flank quickly and effectively around cover to position high RoF guns to tear down targets before they are aware you have even shifted position. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 1529	Posted - 2014.02.08 03:29:00 - [54] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: LOL yea Aisha...stop it in its track!! Don't let them what they did to my beloved like they will do to yours. I'm so upset right now. I just can't believe it. Thanks to the dummies who continually try their hardest to turn this game into a cream puff. Um, what? No-one's doing anything to the RR. Quit your whining about your OP gun. ScR is basically getting nerfed. Loss of the Amarr Assault bonus means it's going to have issues competing with the other rifles - not 1v1, but against groups. I can reliably attack groups of reds with an RR or an ACR (can't really get a handle on the burst, don't care enough to try) but with the ScR on my logi suit? Nope. King of 1v1s, but no actual assaulting. Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters. Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 332	Posted - 2014.02.08 03:32:00 - [55] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: What happened to the "captain" in your name? I miss that name! Lol! ???????? Who are you? And how did you know I was CptKirby? I guess the KEQ under my name gave it away. I figured having the title "Captain" in game that had actual titled ranks was a little odd. So I figured I'd roleplay a little and dropped it for this game. "Marlin" was named after my local baseball team. I guess I'm Director Kirby or Dir. Kirby now. I'm Los2525 from ^D^ in MAG, silly. Yeah, I realized a few posts later. I feel pretty stupid because I have played with you before on that name before. I blame the lack of ^D^ under your name! The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Magnus Amadeuss Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 420	Posted - 2014.02.08 05:38:00 - [56] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Magnus Amadeuss wrote: CR > ScR ease of use CR > ScR overheat CR > ScR sustained DPS (more than double) CR > ScR fitting requirements CR > ScR DPS (+50%) when not cheating ScR > CR can hold charge shot indefinitely without overheating ScR > CR DPS only if using a turbo controller ScR > CR range. Yeah that looks pretty even to me. Fixed* Fixed back. ScR will only out-DPS a CR with the use of a turbo controller, otherwise you just can't pull the trigger fast enough. Oh and reduced duplicated line (charged shot and charged shot) While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
Magnus Amadeuss Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 420	Posted - 2014.02.08 05:43:00 - [57] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: I'm getting real sick and tired of people coming on these forums and accusing SCR users of being modded controller users. It's really starting to come across as an excuse and general butt hurt by the lesser skilled DUST population. Not all SCR users use modded controllers - personally I see no need for it. If you got killed by a SCR faster than your mind could register it is probably due to one or more of the following. 1) You're in a low HP suit and got OHK'ed - I'd recommend you slap some plates on that sucker 2) You're standing still in the open - You're a SCR user's wet dream 3) You're in a shield tanked suit - yes this is similar to number one 4) The SCR user that killed you is simply proficient in this weapon and has become very deadly with it - in short he/she is better than you and you got out skilled Sorry to burst your bubble, but some players are just more skilled with it than others; if you die to one before you even know what is going on, don't immediately label them as a "modded controller user," maybe they have just been using it since 5.14.13 and is their bread and butter. LOLLOLOLOL... watch this: If you got killed by a CR faster than your mind could register it is probably due to one or more of the following. 1) You're in a low HP suit and got OHK'ed - I'd recommend you slap some shield extenders on that sucker 2) You're standing still in the open - You're a CR user's wet dream 3) You're in an armor tanked suit - yes this is similar to number one 4) The CR user that killed you is simply proficient in this weapon and has become very deadly with it - in short he/she is better than you and you got out skilled so, why does everyone scream OP on CR when SCR = CR, but SCR has more range? Because without cheating (modded controller) you can get 640 DPS out of it with NO SKILLS, no overheat, barely any fitting cost, and decent range. To contrast, without a modded controller you are looking at between 400 and 500 DPS from the ScR (which is still too high.) CR =/= ScR... CR >>>> ScR. There is no other rifle in-game that can kill my rep-tanked heavy suit before I turn around other than a CR. While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4515	Posted - 2014.02.08 05:43:00 - [58] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Michael Arck wrote: LOL yea Aisha...stop it in its track!! Don't let them what they did to my beloved like they will do to yours. I'm so upset right now. I just can't believe it. Thanks to the dummies who continually try their hardest to turn this game into a cream puff. Um, what? No-one's doing anything to the RR. Quit your whining about your OP gun. ScR is basically getting nerfed. Loss of the Amarr Assault bonus means it's going to have issues competing with the other rifles - not 1v1, but against groups. I can reliably attack groups of reds with an RR or an ACR (can't really get a handle on the burst, don't care enough to try) but with the ScR on my logi suit? Nope. King of 1v1s, but no actual assaulting. I'm fairly certain that Micheal is referring to the Tactical Assault Rifle, not the Rail Rifle. Want to know how to make a strike-through? [s[Example[/s] Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!
Magnus Amadeuss Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 420	Posted - 2014.02.08 05:47:00 - [59] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: xSir Campsalotx wrote: You sir are an exception, like saying no one makes it to the NBA of course it's untrue i made the statement to point out the rarity of a skilled user. An exaggeration if you will. Which is nowadays actually pretty common. People just flock into the easiest weapon to kill with to cover for the lack of skill vs more skilled players.This is common, not only in DUST514. I was mostly referring to my personal experience, people have actually accused me of using modded controllers , EVEN when they get 1HKO'd by a single charged shot to the head. I mean.Im sorry,but thats just the way it is, the SCR rifle provides a good incentive for good aiming, and believe me, achieving this constantly with a 400HP amarr assault even Vs proto takes, maybe not skill (im not an 3p33n stroker ) But definitely PRACTICE....... man you dnt use a 400 ehp amar suit. My squad and I played you the other day. You were running full advanced gear and Heavy suits with ADV scramblers and possibly damage mods (I know because I had a 1300 ehp heavy get reduced to 400hp from your scramblers) in that galente map. You kept charging objective B (the elevated one) from the CRU. either way. If this holds true for a scambler rifle then the CR could never be OP because it is like a Scr with more downsides and less range. So what were the CR downside compared to the ScR again? fitting? no CR has lol fitting damage?? no CR does + 25% more damage per trigger pull Dying from overheating?? no that is a ScR only thing Damage before overheat?? no, once again only a ScR thing Balanced damage profiles?? No CR does an average of 102.5% damage, compared with 100% for everyone else Oh right... it has slightly less range and no charged shot..... Yep, CR has sooooooo many downsides. While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
straya fox Sad Panda Solutions 189	Posted - 2014.02.08 05:59:00 - [60] - Quote Haha, i love it when all the Amarr mafia come out in defense of their weapon. If you think it's balanced strap on a caldari suit and tell me that. If as many people liked and used it as much as the rail rifle then it would be getting stomped into the ground, lucky for you guys it;s not popular.



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