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KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4450	Posted - 2014.02.07 23:44:00 - [1] - Quote xSir Campsalotx wrote: Yes per trigger cr does more but not dps wise, also im pretty sure heat build up is per second not per shot, and lol skilled there were hardly any SCR users before auto aim and the few that did use it were meh. Just to show I have no bias in this Prof 4 SCR, prof 2 Duvolle, prof 3 rail, prof 3 CR. Do I think it's OP... Only on the Amarr assualt which is how it should be but Im almost certain many people use modded controllers. Look at the old duvolle tac its rof got reduced and surprise everyone stops using it. I used SCR before. Even without AA, i was better than Meh... BTW i dont use modded controllers,but the greatest advantage a SCR can give you, which is the CHARGED shot. Also the ONLY reason to use it over a CR, with better bonuses to damage and no overheat, joke of fitting requirements , a sight that helps achieve precision shots at its intended range and monster like Hipfire. AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4450	Posted - 2014.02.07 23:57:00 - [2] - Quote xSir Campsalotx wrote: You sir are an exception, like saying no one makes it to the NBA of course it's untrue i made the statement to point out the rarity of a skilled user. An exaggeration if you will. Which is nowadays actually pretty common. People just flock into the easiest weapon to kill with to cover for the lack of skill vs more skilled players.This is common, not only in DUST514. I was mostly referring to my personal experience, people have actually accused me of using modded controllers , EVEN when they get 1HKO'd by a single charged shot to the head. I mean.Im sorry,but thats just the way it is, the SCR rifle provides a good incentive for good aiming, and believe me, achieving this constantly with a 400HP amarr assault even Vs proto takes, maybe not skill (im not an 3p33n stroker ) But definitely PRACTICE....... AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4450	Posted - 2014.02.08 00:08:00 - [3] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: What happened to the "captain" in your name? I miss that name! Lol! ???????? Who are you? And how did you know I was CptKirby? I guess the KEQ under my name gave it away. I figured having the title "Captain" in game that had actual titled ranks was a little odd. So I figured I'd roleplay a little and dropped it for this game. "Marlin" was named after my local baseball team. I guess I'm Director Kirby or Dir. Kirby now. I'm Los2525 from ^D^ in MAG, silly. WOW! waht up LOS! long time no see! just kidding. AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4457	Posted - 2014.02.08 01:45:00 - [4] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: man you dnt use a 400 ehp amar suit. My squad and I played you the other day. You were running full advanced gear and Heavy suits with ADV scramblers and possibly damage mods (I know because I had a 1300 ehp heavy get reduced to 400hp from your scramblers) in that galente map. You kept charging objective B (the elevated one) from the CRU. either way. If this holds true for a scambler rifle then the CR could never be OP because it is like a Scr with more downsides and less range. 1st-My ''FULL ADV GEAR;; Amarr suit HAS 400HP XD..... I use 430 EHP Amarr Assault A/1 series. 1 Damage Mod, 1 Precision enhancer , 1 Armor rep and 1 complex dampener. 2nd-We played YESTERDAY 3rd-I HAD To use the heavy suit with SHOTGUN (mind you) since it was the only way to kill the incredible Heavy Spam you ULTRAMARINES were doing (next to the other corp with full proto) 4th- How is a CR a SCR with downsides? The only TRUE ADvantage the SCR has over a CR is the CHARGED SHOT and some RANGE. The CR has better fitting requirements (by far) , no overheat, faster Reload speed ,better hipfire, can shoot 18 bursts per clip uniterrupted , all this and not even getting into how a Standard CR does more damage per R1 Press than a Viziam SCR rifle (32 x 3 = 96 // Viziam 79) So dont give me that SCR > CR bulls* when the only thing we got going for ourselves is the charged shot and fancy design.... AceOfJokers666** [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4491	Posted - 2014.02.08 22:38:00 - [5] - Quote @ straya fox Quote: ''Haha, i love it when all the Amarr mafia come out in defense of their weapon. If you think it's balanced strap on a caldari suit and tell me that.'' Caldari is the only Suit that has complete weakness to the SCR (and scouts). ANYHOW, i've seen 500+ Armor Cal assaults, but then if you do this you will be complaining about RR or CR..... Quote: '' lucky for you guys it;s not popular'' Of course its not popular, its a weapon that takes skill + situational awareness. I really like you here in the forums and you are a great player, but dont be hating on our SCR just because your PROTO DROP-SUITS cant take a couple of Charged shots from behind... ;) Support Amarr scout bonus change! : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813029#post1813029
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4491	Posted - 2014.02.08 23:24:00 - [6] - Quote Kal Kronos wrote: Tighten hip fire, same fix for RR. Gun is too effective in CQC make it harder to spam and insta-win in close quaters, all other aspects of the gun are fine. Seems Great. Then a RANGE REDUCTION to CR and AR should come too. SCR and RR are not effective in CQ. CR and AR are not effective outside the 45mts even at proto level. you have a deal. (Or you thought you could NERF RR/SCR CQ capabilities while KEEPING CR long range impeccable damage? LOL) Support Amarr scout bonus change! : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813029#post1813029
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4499	Posted - 2014.02.09 00:10:00 - [7] - Quote Kal Kronos wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Kal Kronos wrote: Tighten hip fire, same fix for RR. Gun is too effective in CQC make it harder to spam and insta-win in close quaters, all other aspects of the gun are fine. Seems Great. Then a RANGE REDUCTION to CR and AR should come too. SCR and RR are not effective in CQ. CR and AR are not effective outside the 45mts even at proto level. you have a deal. (Or you thought you could NERF RR/SCR CQ capabilities while KEEPING CR long range impeccable damage? LOL) I only comment on guns I use (RR and SCR), perhaps others should do the same... If you run CR all the time I bow to your expertise in suggestions. I ahve all Rifles PRof 4. I use SCR 50% of the time the other 50% I use all other guns depending on the situation. I repeat myself. If a CQ nerf is to be made for RR and SCR , then a RAnged NErf will be needed for CR and ARs. SPECIALLY CR.... The : '' I use this weapon so my nerf proposal is valid'' card is , way too old... Support Amarr scout bonus change! : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813029#post1813029
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4499	Posted - 2014.02.09 00:12:00 - [8] - Quote ANON Cerberus wrote: Guys, you would be unwise to play down the significance of the charged shot on the Scrambler. My only real gripe with the scrambler is the fact it keeps such a high rate of fire when the TAC AR got boned in the bumhole with a mag size nerf and a RoF nerf. Add to that what ever else was done to make it crappy. Would you guys not say it would be fair to reduce the RoF of the scram? or buff the RoF and clip size of the TAC AR. No. The TAC is a COPY of the SCRAM. ITs unfair for gallentes to have an equally effective ALTERNATE AR as the AMARRIAN MAIN RIFLE. TAC needs a RoF increase (Slight) SCR needs no change. Support Amarr scout bonus change! : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813029#post1813029
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4504	Posted - 2014.02.09 00:47:00 - [9] - Quote shaman oga wrote: I've decided to test it tonight, ROF is impressive, damage too, it deserves a nerf. OH so you played with it one day? You must be right. Support Amarr scout bonus change! : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813029#post1813029
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4534	Posted - 2014.02.09 04:15:00 - [10] - Quote ANON Cerberus wrote: Then what is the point of weapons like the burst AR and TAC AR if they are just weak versions of other guns? . That with only SP into AR's you can still use something SIMILAR to the SCR..... Think of low level players here. Oh wait, nobody does that in these forums.... Support Amarr scout bonus change! : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813029#post1813029

KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4534	Posted - 2014.02.09 04:16:00 - [11] - Quote straya fox wrote: Haha i'm not hating man, i was just in a bad mood after the RR damage nerf and the Caldari assault bonus ( reload ) announcements. I know the ScR is a balanced weapon, well against most suits except mine unfortunately, like i said i just had a little lash out. Apologies Accepted. /Also check this out and have a saying about CAldari Assault Bonus: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=141123&find=unread Support Amarr scout bonus change! : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813029#post1813029

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