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zibathy numbertwo wrote:

This is the worst FotM in Dust history. Never have I been so hopelessly stomped by OP weapons. RR and CR are literally two different reincarnations of H I T L E R himself. This is the first time I have quit playing Dust (for the time being, you ******* parasites) because of a FotM.

I miss being killed by mass drivers.

I honestly miss AR 514. And you're just a sour ***** if you disagree. At least you could kill someone with an AR. CR and RR users are invincible.

Even combat logis were better than this **** - I miss when caldari logi had that bonus to shield extender efficacy; even THAT was better than this ****.

I miss murder taxis. Even murder taxis were better.

I have been playing this game for a full year now and... this is the worst. Really, truly, gamebreakingly bad.

Comparatively, this is the worst FotM of all time, and I would gladly, without a doubt, take on any other FotM over this one - maybe even two since this pretty much is 2 FotMs at once when you add in tanks.

I can't seriously be the only one who feels this way.

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zibathy numbertwo Nox Aeterna Security 394	Posted - 2014.02.05 05:06:00 - [1] - Quote This is the worst FotM in Dust history. Never have I been so hopelessly stomped by OP weapons. RR and CR are literally two different reincarnations of **** himself. This is the first time I have quit playing Dust (for the time being, you *** parasites) because of a FotM. I miss being killed by mass drivers. I honestly miss AR 514. And you're just a sour * if you disagree. At least you could kill someone with an AR. CR and RR users are invincible. Even combat logis were better than this - I miss when caldari logi had that bonus to shield extender efficacy; even THAT was better than this *. I miss murder taxis. Even murder taxis were better. I have been playing this game for a full year now and... this is the worst. Really, truly, gamebreakingly bad. Comparatively, this is the worst FotM of all time, and I would gladly, without a doubt, take on any other FotM over this one - maybe even two since this pretty much is 2 FotMs at once when you add in tanks. I can't seriously be the only one who feels this way. Long Live Freedom; Long Live the Federation.*
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 642	Posted - 2014.02.05 05:08:00 - [2] - Quote I can't help it you use armor. That said, I happen to agree. I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 834	Posted - 2014.02.05 05:16:00 - [3] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: I can't help it you use armor. That said, I happen to agree. Even if you shield tank, you'll get ripped to sheds with the new Rifles.
sira draco Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors 76	Posted - 2014.02.05 05:40:00 - [4] - Quote zibathy numbertwo wrote: This is the worst FotM in Dust history. Never have I been so hopelessly stomped by OP weapons. RR and CR are literally two different reincarnations of H I T L E R himself. This is the first time I have quit playing Dust (for the time being, you ***** parasites) because of a FotM. I miss being killed by mass drivers. I honestly miss AR 514. And you're just a sour * if you disagree. At least you could kill someone with an AR. CR and RR users are invincible. Even combat logis were better than this - I miss when caldari logi had that bonus to shield extender efficacy; even THAT was better than this **. I miss murder taxis. Even murder taxis were better. I have been playing this game for a full year now and... this is the worst. Really, truly, gamebreakingly bad. Comparatively, this is the worst FotM of all time, and I would gladly, without a doubt, take on any other FotM over this one - maybe even two since this pretty much is 2 FotMs at once when you add in tanks. I can't seriously be the only one who feels this way. I agree, its ruining the game, and dont forget the militia tank spam
Supra Advyn Nos Nothi 106	Posted - 2014.02.05 05:49:00 - [5] - Quote for a scout, like myself, it is a one bullet shot kill to my foot and I'm gone to the next spawn. I spec'd into the RR to give a lil taste back, but, everyone is sporting it now (RR, CR) So, I stick with my shotty and sneak up on them. and find a nice nest to pop some off with my charger. Never the less, it is rampant. you should know by now....
Taeryn Frost Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 153	Posted - 2014.02.05 05:52:00 - [6] - Quote I don't miss any of the explosion FOTMs. I can deal with projectiles to some extent, but being bombarded and killed without the enemy even having line of sight is pretty annoying. I do find the RR and CR pretty strong. Hard to win 1 on 1 engagements. Finally forced me to upgrade the GEK to a Duvolle just to stay on par.
Ronan Elsword Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 167	Posted - 2014.02.05 05:56:00 - [7] - Quote Your right this is the worst FOTM ever. So many dang HAV's and if you even think to bring in a dropship you get one shotted by a redline dual damage modded Rail Hav. Oh you thought infantry was bad haha I knew that. Shields get ripped to shreds because they have minimal health as is. Like I've said many times, Armor finally has a counter at a decent range so they are feeling the pain shields have always felt. I mostly use my Rail Rifle because it's my racial weapon, and it's new. Got bored of the same look all the time. Currently the AR is UP in the breach and tactical form. *"War doesn't determine who is right, only who is left."*
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 643	Posted - 2014.02.05 05:59:00 - [8] - Quote Besides, if you use Shields, you shouldn't be close enough for the CR to DO anything. I mean, shields are BETTER at RANGE, not CQC. I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone
HYENAKILLER X Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 548	Posted - 2014.02.05 06:03:00 - [9] - Quote Take off aim assist and try the combat rifle. That is not "easy" If you creep/ stalk maps and use cover the rail rifle is actually easier than you think to counter. The thing to remember with the new rifles is that guys are rellying on range not skill. Up close and personal is an entirely different story. You are welcome for my leadership. Proven Aggressive Type I have spoken.
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 643	Posted - 2014.02.05 06:07:00 - [10] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Take off aim assist and try the combat rifle. That is not "easy" If you creep/ stalk maps and use cover the rail rifle is actually easier than you think to counter. The thing to remember with the new rifles is that guys are rellying on range not skill. Up close and personal is an entirely different story. For the most part, this is true, I know the limits of my RR. It is GREAT at long range, good at Midrange, and less than stellar at CQC, as it should be. BTW, for anyone interested in killing RR users, get close, that .25 sec. charge can be COMPLETELY taken advantage of. I know from experience, it's that charge that gets me killed 9/10 in CQC, and the other 1/10 is Shotty Scouts, whom I salute. o7 Getting killed is my own fault for being too aggressive, I'm a ranged fighter, not CQC and need to remember that, but I get... carried away. I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone

Taeryn Frost Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 155	Posted - 2014.02.05 06:19:00 - [11] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: Besides, if you use Shields, you shouldn't be close enough for the CR to DO anything. I mean, shields are BETTER at RANGE, not CQC. You say that like staying at range is always a choice. If range was was my only concern why not just snipe and use up that pile of Thale's I keep getting for some reason. Granted, tactically maybe shields aren't ideal for CQC, but sometimes you gotta take your ass into the fire and get work done.
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 674	Posted - 2014.02.05 06:20:00 - [12] - Quote Taeryn Frost wrote: I don't miss any of the explosion FOTMs. I can deal with projectiles to some extent, but being bombarded and killed without the enemy even having line of sight is pretty annoying. I do find the RR and CR pretty strong. Hard to win 1 on 1 engagements. Finally forced me to upgrade the GEK to a Duvolle just to stay on par. You do realize absolutely nothing changed about Explosions since it was FOTM right?
Taeryn Frost Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 155	Posted - 2014.02.05 06:24:00 - [13] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Taeryn Frost wrote: I don't miss any of the explosion FOTMs. I can deal with projectiles to some extent, but being bombarded and killed without the enemy even having line of sight is pretty annoying. I do find the RR and CR pretty strong. Hard to win 1 on 1 engagements. Finally forced me to upgrade the GEK to a Duvolle just to stay on par. You do realize absolutely nothing changed about Explosions since it was FOTM right? Oh? I guess I hadn't noticed people still using contact grenades or flaylocks or MDs like before...
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 4365	Posted - 2014.02.05 06:27:00 - [14] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: Besides, if you use Shields, you shouldn't be close enough for the CR to DO anything. I mean, shields are BETTER at RANGE, not CQC. Minmatar I've been doing it wrong in EvE and dust! Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD 485	Posted - 2014.02.05 06:27:00 - [15] - Quote I don't get it.. RR is good CR is good RR is good It sounds like you guys just don't like to ever change your play style. In the city use a CR/AR. Both are great and the AR DPS wise is still good. Elsewhere use a RR/SR/LR. You need to be able to adapt and change to wherever is needed, not just whatever weapon you have the most SP into. Now, the weapons all need some tweaks, but a damage nerf on all rifles would be a big start. Director of ZionTCD Amarr Logi \| Amarr Sentinel \| Amarr Scout (SoonGäó) TDBS
Bayeth Mal OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 30	Posted - 2014.02.05 06:28:00 - [16] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Taeryn Frost wrote: I don't miss any of the explosion FOTMs. I can deal with projectiles to some extent, but being bombarded and killed without the enemy even having line of sight is pretty annoying. I do find the RR and CR pretty strong. Hard to win 1 on 1 engagements. Finally forced me to upgrade the GEK to a Duvolle just to stay on par. You do realize absolutely nothing changed about Explosions since it was FOTM right? It's strange, I've noticed recently a severe drop in 'nade spam, I don't think I've been taken out by a core locus since 1.7 dropped. It's mostly remote spam now oddly enough.
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 372	Posted - 2014.02.05 06:31:00 - [17] - Quote zibathy numbertwo wrote: This is the worst FotM in Dust history. Never have I been so hopelessly stomped by OP weapons. RR and CR are literally two different reincarnations of H I T L E R himself. This is the first time I have quit playing Dust (for the time being, you ***** parasites) because of a FotM. I miss being killed by mass drivers. I honestly miss AR 514. And you're just a sour * if you disagree. At least you could kill someone with an AR. CR and RR users are invincible. Even combat logis were better than this - I miss when caldari logi had that bonus to shield extender efficacy; even THAT was better than this **. I miss murder taxis. Even murder taxis were better. I have been playing this game for a full year now and... this is the worst. Really, truly, gamebreakingly bad. Comparatively, this is the worst FotM of all time, and I would gladly, without a doubt, take on any other FotM over this one - maybe even two since this pretty much is 2 FotMs at once when you add in tanks. I can't seriously be the only one who feels this way. Nothing will ever be as bad as the chromosome laser. But this is close. Rifles/HMG are OP in general right now. And the RR/CR make the other pointshoot weapons look underpowered.
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 372	Posted - 2014.02.05 06:33:00 - [18] - Quote Bayeth Mal wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Taeryn Frost wrote: I don't miss any of the explosion FOTMs. I can deal with projectiles to some extent, but being bombarded and killed without the enemy even having line of sight is pretty annoying. I do find the RR and CR pretty strong. Hard to win 1 on 1 engagements. Finally forced me to upgrade the GEK to a Duvolle just to stay on par. You do realize absolutely nothing changed about Explosions since it was FOTM right? It's strange, I've noticed recently a severe drop in 'nade spam, I don't think I've been taken out by a core locus since 1.7 dropped. It's mostly remote spam now oddly enough. Time to kill is faster than the time it takes for a grenade to get to a target... never mind actually explode. If you reach for the nade upon starting a confrontation you are GOING to die.
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 674	Posted - 2014.02.05 06:34:00 - [19] - Quote Taeryn Frost wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Taeryn Frost wrote: I don't miss any of the explosion FOTMs. I can deal with projectiles to some extent, but being bombarded and killed without the enemy even having line of sight is pretty annoying. I do find the RR and CR pretty strong. Hard to win 1 on 1 engagements. Finally forced me to upgrade the GEK to a Duvolle just to stay on par. You do realize absolutely nothing changed about Explosions since it was FOTM right? Oh? I guess I hadn't noticed people still using contact grenades or flaylocks or MDs like before... Flaylol and Contact Nades were nerfed before Explosion FOTM, which was really just Core Nade Spam and MD users on rooftops. AA came and made MDs obsolete but nothing changed about the weapon and people still Core Nade spam.
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 372	Posted - 2014.02.05 06:35:00 - [20] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Taeryn Frost wrote: I don't miss any of the explosion FOTMs. I can deal with projectiles to some extent, but being bombarded and killed without the enemy even having line of sight is pretty annoying. I do find the RR and CR pretty strong. Hard to win 1 on 1 engagements. Finally forced me to upgrade the GEK to a Duvolle just to stay on par. You do realize absolutely nothing changed about Explosions since it was FOTM right? It isn't explosions that got tweaked, it was auto aim, hit detection, and strafe speed. The problem with flaylock/contact ( the mass driver got lumped in their despite it's much slower time to kill than the other two) was that they were lightning fast instant kill moves... And then they gave that ability to rifles for some reason. They should have toned down "direct aim" weapon damage when they made the game aim for you.

LEHON Xeon Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 179	Posted - 2014.02.05 06:39:00 - [21] - Quote I do think RR and CR have issues. However, if I can manage to close in on people using them, I can eat them alive still with my AR. Not all maps are suitable for that though, so I started employing RR myself. Kalakota RR range is insane. It's a trap! In this patch we can't repel firepower of that magnitude! - Admiral Ackbar would say in ambush w Nyain San
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 643	Posted - 2014.02.05 06:44:00 - [22] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: Besides, if you use Shields, you shouldn't be close enough for the CR to DO anything. I mean, shields are BETTER at RANGE, not CQC. Minmatar I've been doing it wrong in EvE and dust! Come, now, Sinboto, we both know that Minmatar are different in their thought processes than Caldari. They use shields as a slight buffer so that they can get close enough for their speed to destroy the Amarr. At least, that's how it is in EVE. Dust has Aim Assist, which, in my opinion, needs to GO!!!! But that's another topic. Taeryn Frost wrote: You say that like staying at range is always a choice. If range was was my only concern why not just snipe and use up that pile of Thale's I keep getting for some reason. Granted, tactically maybe shields aren't ideal for CQC, but sometimes you gotta take your ass into the fire and get work done. Never said that MY way was the only way, and you seem to do just fine with YOUR way, I'm just saying that at range, shields are more effective than armor, because you're (slightly) faster, and can avoid more rounds. At least, that's the way it's SUPPOSED to work, but AA messes that up (again, different topic). Now, shields are OK in CQC, but look at the Gallente, CQC KINGS, with the SG and the AR, and they use Armor. And... RR in CQC is difficult, what with the .25 sec. charge, versus, say, a CR which has no charge. Needless to say, I prefer fighting at range, and when I MUST get close, I pull out my Breach SMG. I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8836	Posted - 2014.02.05 06:44:00 - [23] - Quote I still hate the murder taxis way more; logi LAVs tanked with tons of HP, 1-hit-kill tapping everyone, and speeding away before anyone can do anything about it. I still hate the dumbfire swarm launchers from replication more ;1-hit-killing everyone, and the REs with no arm time being thrown like grenades was also really frustrating. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Taeryn Frost Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 155	Posted - 2014.02.05 06:49:00 - [24] - Quote Ah murder taxi's. Getting nudged slightly by a bumper and taking 2000 damage. I don't miss those days.
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 643	Posted - 2014.02.05 06:53:00 - [25] - Quote Murder Taxis SUCKED. They still exist, but in a rarified form. You know what OPness I DO miss? Chromosome Heavies. It was a treat to go toe-to-toe with a heavy back then, with a Shotty Scout, and win by inches (unless I'm seen, in which case, what scout?) I miss when you NEEDED a Shotty scout to kill that heavy over there so that you could take the objective, that was FUN!!!! Of course, I was one of those scouts, so.... I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 4433	Posted - 2014.02.05 06:59:00 - [26] - Quote Let me tell you a time of raining orbitals, light sabers, and dumb fire swarm missiles. This is a bad FoTM but there have been many worse.
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 2371	Posted - 2014.02.05 07:00:00 - [27] - Quote I really don't give a f*ck what others use, i use what i like and i still destroy everyone on the battlefield with my weapons... Buying EVE CE codes for Dust ISK Corp services
KGB Sleep Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 692	Posted - 2014.02.05 07:10:00 - [28] - Quote The Dust forums have more whine than the Napa Valley. "Because beer, that's why."
Foundation Seldon Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 417	Posted - 2014.02.05 07:20:00 - [29] - Quote While we're on the (sub)topic of favorite FotM ... I totally miss the state of the game before strafing was nerfed (pre-Chromosome for sure). Scouts were, figuratively speaking, invinci-Scouts and the gameplay was much more mobile and frantic than it is now. The infantry game simply hasn't been as interesting since they toned that aspect of it down. MurderTaxis was probably way worse though. Saga v. Methana Balance
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 271	Posted - 2014.02.05 07:20:00 - [30] - Quote I dont mind the new rifles, I just wish they werent used so widely...There are alot of weapons that could be used and never see the battlefield. I actually got a few kills with a laser rifle the other day. Their pretty damn fun until people pull out adv RR to counter you. Dedicated Stealth Scout. Scout instructor; Learning Coalition Scrambler Pistol dedication



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