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Korvin Lomont wrote:

D legendary hero wrote:

zibathy numbertwo wrote:

This is the worst FotM in Dust history. Never have I been so hopelessly stomped by OP weapons. RR and CR are literally two different reincarnations of H I T L E R himself. This is the first time I have quit playing Dust (for the time being, you ******* parasites) because of a FotM.

I miss being killed by mass drivers.

I honestly miss AR 514. And you're just a sour ***** if you disagree. At least you could kill someone with an AR. CR and RR users are invincible.

Even combat logis were better than this **** - I miss when caldari logi had that bonus to shield extender efficacy; even THAT was better than this ****.

I miss murder taxis. Even murder taxis were better.

I have been playing this game for a full year now and... this is the worst. Really, truly, gamebreakingly bad.

Comparatively, this is the worst FotM of all time, and I would gladly, without a doubt, take on any other FotM over this one - maybe even two since this pretty much is 2 FotMs at once when you add in tanks.

I can't seriously be the only one who feels this way.

1. Tanks are killing the game

2. caldari logi's were the single worst thing in dust, the second being TAC ARs and the HMG nerf

3. the game feels alot more balanced since I see people get killed by CR, RR, AR and Scr

4. Scr is way more OP. its literally the only AR used in PC.

5. AR514 went on since 1.2 till now. Hell the **** no. just because you have all your points in galente ARs doesnt mean it should be the ******* best ass rifle in the god damned game.

To be honest the AR schould be best Assault Rifle in game as all other Assault variants should only mimic the AR, just like the SCR should be the best tactical variant, the RR the best breach variant and the CR the best Burst variant.

Sadly CCP messed things up...Again...and even though the CPM was quite eager to prenerf the cloak they did nothing to prevent the introduction of these new rifles.

We have told them numerous times that this would happen as soon we saw the weapon stats...but no one really cared

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Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 644	Posted - 2014.02.05 07:22:00 - [31] - Quote Ivy Zalinto wrote: I dont mind the new rifles, I just wish they werent used so widely...There are alot of weapons that could be used and never see the battlefield. I actually got a few kills with a laser rifle the other day. Their pretty damn fun until people pull out adv RR to counter you. Or STD at Prof 4, like I use. I think I killed you once with it, Ivy, not 100% sure, though. I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 271	Posted - 2014.02.05 07:31:00 - [32] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: Ivy Zalinto wrote: I dont mind the new rifles, I just wish they werent used so widely...There are alot of weapons that could be used and never see the battlefield. I actually got a few kills with a laser rifle the other day. Their pretty damn fun until people pull out adv RR to counter you. Or STD at Prof 4, like I use. I think I killed you once with it, Ivy, not 100% sure, though. Its quite possible. I play quite a bit. My death count is usually pretty low however unless its late at night. Im a stealth scout so both my kills and deaths tend to be low. Around 15/6 mark generally. Sometimes up to 10 deaths though. Again possible. Dedicated Stealth Scout. Scout instructor; Learning Coalition Scrambler Pistol dedication
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1225	Posted - 2014.02.05 07:58:00 - [33] - Quote What did OP expect? Seriously. New racial weapons hit the game and you don't think people will flock to it out of curiosity alone? Some people had been hoarding SP for months just to get them. A newberry will say "hmmmm...what's this? I wonder what it does". People who are loyal to Caldari and Minmatar were chomping at the bits to finally add a new toy to their lore-based fitting. Someone also complained about the saturation of them in games. Again...what did you expect with new toys? Imo, they are fairly easy to counter once you know their limitations and don't go running in Rambo-style thinking you can single handedly kill all 16 red dots at once. I know what my gun can and can't do, but the trick is knowing that about your opponents gun/playstyle. The guns are okay in my book. I actually enjoy the challenge that they present. Besides, there WERE more annoying FoTM's, as some have already stated. Dumb-fire swarms, Cal Logi's, NOS tanks, flaylock spam, Creodron Breach AR, lasers, tac w/out recoil, Dropship CrushGäó, and murder taxis...just to name a few PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 677	Posted - 2014.02.05 08:10:00 - [34] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: What did OP expect? Seriously. New racial weapons hit the game and you don't think people will flock to it out of curiosity alone? Some people had been hoarding SP for months just to get them. A newberry will say "hmmmm...what's this? I wonder what it does". People who are loyal to Caldari and Minmatar were chomping at the bits to finally add a new toy to their lore-based fitting. Someone also complained about the saturation of them in games. Again...what did you expect with new toys? Imo, they are fairly easy to counter once you know their limitations and don't go running in Rambo-style thinking you can single handedly kill all 16 red dots at once. I know what my gun can and can't do, but the trick is knowing that about your opponents gun/playstyle. The guns are okay in my book. I actually enjoy the challenge that they present. Besides, there WERE more annoying FoTM's, as some have already stated. Dumb-fire swarms, Cal Logi's, NOS tanks, flaylock spam, Creodron Breach AR, lasers, tac w/out recoil, Dropship CrushGäó, and murder taxis...just to name a few I'm going to have to ask you to edit your comment, as it contains intellectual property of King.com. Comply with these wishes and we will not shave your cat. Under 28db Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14) Selling SP: 10k SP per 100k ISK.
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1226	Posted - 2014.02.05 08:14:00 - [35] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: What did OP expect? Seriously. New racial weapons hit the game and you don't think people will flock to it out of curiosity alone? Some people had been hoarding SP for months just to get them. A newberry will say "hmmmm...what's this? I wonder what it does". People who are loyal to Caldari and Minmatar were chomping at the bits to finally add a new toy to their lore-based fitting. Someone also complained about the saturation of them in games. Again...what did you expect with new toys? Imo, they are fairly easy to counter once you know their limitations and don't go running in Rambo-style thinking you can single handedly kill all 16 red dots at once. I know what my gun can and can't do, but the trick is knowing that about your opponents gun/playstyle. The guns are okay in my book. I actually enjoy the challenge that they present. Besides, there WERE more annoying FoTM's, as some have already stated. Dumb-fire swarms, Cal Logi's, NOS tanks, flaylock spam, Creodron Breach AR, lasers, tac w/out recoil, Dropship CrushGäó, and murder taxis...just to name a few I'm going to have to ask you to edit your comment, as it contains intellectual property of King.com. Comply with these wishes and we will not shave your cat. My cat has no hair. I call my kitty NairGäó. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
TechMechMeds Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives 2563	Posted - 2014.02.05 08:34:00 - [36] - Quote I waited almost a year for the cr and maxed it with my vehicle sp without even checking the stats to begin with. Not everyone is on a bandwagon. Level 2 forum warrior. Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
Niuvo NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 994	Posted - 2014.02.05 10:28:00 - [37] - Quote That RR though ...absolutely trash.
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2247	Posted - 2014.02.05 10:42:00 - [38] - Quote Guess noone remebers the dum fire swarm lauanchers. Tbh i think this is a TTK issue all the guns need dailing back because dieing in 3 shots is not fun. Protosuits should extend your health and give u more toys not amp up the damage "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 268	Posted - 2014.02.05 11:09:00 - [39] - Quote the funny thing is its not the RR and CRs fault, they are well balanced....... untill you add bullet magnetism, although the CR also is broken due to its complete and utter lack of exponential kick that makes it exponentially more powerful the faster the trigger is pulled up to inhuman speeds. funny enough whats broken with the CR is the same thing that got the tac nerf hammered, and what did make the AR the unbeatable weapon of almost every prior build(bullet mag and rifles with longer ranges now make that irreverent). CCP SAID they were going to fix it but apparently they believe modifying hardware to do things that would otherwise be impossible for the player with out the mod is a legitimate tactic and that you should balance a game such that using that completely unbalances the game.
Ryme Intrinseca Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 568	Posted - 2014.02.05 11:44:00 - [40] - Quote zibathy numbertwo wrote: This is the worst FotM in Dust history. Never have I been so hopelessly stomped by OP weapons. RR and CR are literally two different reincarnations of H I T L E R himself. This is the worst attempt to identify the FotM in Dust history. Tanks are very, very obviously the flavour of the month.

xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 1632	Posted - 2014.02.05 11:49:00 - [41] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: I can't help it you use armor. That said, I happen to agree. Even if you shield tank, you'll get ripped to sheds with the new Rifles. I strogly disagree. Shields needs a little buff, yes. But are pretty resistant against RR, much more than armor. That's why I always said the problem is in vehicles vs AV balance, not in Infantry vs Infantry. I think they reached a good balance level in infantry vs Infantry where only littlefine tunings are needed. Tank 514.
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 530	Posted - 2014.02.05 12:17:00 - [42] - Quote Agreed, Tanks, Rail Rifles, and Combat Rifles. It is ALL that I see out there. Been doing a lot of ambush, and I've learned that running my free suit (nothing on it) and weapon are the BEST way to go about it. I no longer expect to get a kill. I just wait for tanks to come in, and if on the enemy side, I find a nice quiet spot in the back and hide the match out. I miss dust 514 Nuff Said
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 73	Posted - 2014.02.05 12:52:00 - [43] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: I don't get it.. RR is OP CR is OP RR is OP It sounds like THUNDERGROOVE just don't like to ever change his play style. In the city use a CR/AR. Both are great and the AR DPS wise is still good. Elsewhere use a RR/SR/LR. You need to be able to adapt and change to wherever is needed, not just whatever weapon you have the most SP into. Now, the weapons all need some tweaks, but a damage nerf on all rifles would be a big start. Yea you dont understand, we didnt say they sucked we said they were to powerful. Everone already have suits for different maps and different problems. And also fixed Caldari Loyalist
Mortedeamor 1342	Posted - 2014.02.05 12:56:00 - [44] - Quote yeah ive pretty much set infantry aside in dust doesnt matter how good u are who who your playing with when everything is so broken +1 for IWS to stay as cpm more-tae-dee-um-more stop asking how to pronounce my name its quite irritating
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 453	Posted - 2014.02.05 12:58:00 - [45] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: I can't help it you use armor. That said, I happen to agree. Even if you shield tank, you'll get ripped to sheds with the new Rifles. Armor>shields, unless shields had only 10% less hp than armor, which they don't. Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Logi Stician The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 195	Posted - 2014.02.05 13:22:00 - [46] - Quote All I had to do was put a point in cr and rr, buy a bunch of militia heavy suits, for countering similar fits, and throw some points in REs so I could fit basic and adv REs on a BPO logi suit and throw them on my BPO watch saga LAV. I destroyed my first gunlogi yesterday for 8k (you heard me right, 8,000k) ISK and it was one of the most cathartic experiences I've had in Dust thus far. Also! It does not take much to buy 30 mlt tanks and some mods for them and play around with tanking while its FoTM. I actually thought about putting serious points into tanking because it seems really fun! Last night we were at the three point map where charlie is right next to the mountains, and we made a hard push against some protos that were holding the CRU underneath the objective. I was able to last and I took out quite a few of them due to my mlt heavy suit. I was suprised and happy when we came out of that battle with few casualties and we had flushed them out of the area. We did lose though, had some lazy blueberries and the other team was a worthy foe. I guess what I'm trying to say is Dust can easily be about flexability and versatility and if you don't find a way to make the game fun for you and your corpmates, then, well, yeah. "...and I'm the seventh out of seven sons, my pappy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun. "
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4563	Posted - 2014.02.05 13:24:00 - [47] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: I can't help it you use armor. That said, I happen to agree. Even if you shield tank, you'll get ripped to sheds with the new Rifles. Seriously, have you guys noticed that by the testing some players have done, the Combat Rifle gets a 15% bonus to armor and ONLY a 5% penalty to shield? That's not even enough to constitute a penalty. Basically just means that after you tear their shields off like they aren't even there, the armor goes away in one burst, maybe one-and-a-half. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
2100 Angels The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 300	Posted - 2014.02.05 13:33:00 - [48] - Quote The advanced CR is literally a better shotgun than my CreoDron. What does that say?
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 842	Posted - 2014.02.05 14:05:00 - [49] - Quote Remember before the CR and RR came out how people said the AR was OP, and now that we have the CR and RR people say it's UP. Lololol
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 1504	Posted - 2014.02.05 14:39:00 - [50] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Remember before the CR and RR came out how people said the AR was OP, and now that we have the CR and RR people say it's UP. Lololol What does that tell you about the RR and CR? Especially when AR was actually buffed? Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters. Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!

Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 843	Posted - 2014.02.05 14:57:00 - [51] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Remember before the CR and RR came out how people said the AR was OP, and now that we have the CR and RR people say it's UP. Lololol What does that tell you about the RR and CR? Especially when AR was actually buffed? That the RR and CR are OP as fudge.
CRYPT3C W0LF Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 327	Posted - 2014.02.05 15:06:00 - [52] - Quote come'on guys... You can easily counter the CR users by strafing, and you can destroy the RR users by getting up close and personal. Personally, I run a Gallente Scout and with a standard CR, and yes. It will destroy anything within a 25 m radius. But anything further then 50m it is absolutely impossible to deal damage. Each weapon has its pro's and Cons. And as much as you enjoy you're railrifle, my CR will feast on you're Proto remains Ahhhh.... CPM? Nononono
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1460	Posted - 2014.02.05 15:08:00 - [53] - Quote zibathy numbertwo wrote: This is the worst FotM in Dust history. Never have I been so hopelessly stomped by OP weapons. RR and CR are literally two different reincarnations of H I T L E R himself. This is the first time I have quit playing Dust (for the time being, you ***** parasites) because of a FotM. I miss being killed by mass drivers. I honestly miss AR 514. And you're just a sour * if you disagree. At least you could kill someone with an AR. CR and RR users are invincible. Even combat logis were better than this - I miss when caldari logi had that bonus to shield extender efficacy; even THAT was better than this . I miss murder taxis. Even murder taxis were better. I have been playing this game for a full year now and... this is the worst. Really, truly, gamebreakingly bad. Comparatively, this is the worst FotM of all time, and I would gladly, without a doubt, take on any other FotM over this one - maybe even two since this pretty much is 2 FotMs at once when you add in tanks. I can't seriously be the only one who feels this way. 1. Tanks are killing the game 2. caldari logi's were the single worst thing in dust, the second being TAC ARs and the HMG nerf 3. the game feels alot more balanced since I see people get killed by CR, RR, AR and Scr 4. Scr is way more OP. its literally the only AR used in PC. 5. AR514 went on since 1.2 till now. Hell the no. just because you have all your points in galente ARs doesnt mean it should be the ***** best ass rifle in the god damned game. Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1460	Posted - 2014.02.05 15:10:00 - [54] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Remember before the CR and RR came out how people said the AR was OP, and now that we have the CR and RR people say it's UP. Lololol all ARs are OP. they can each beat a heavy with an HMG in CQC. even after the HMG buff... so what does that tell you about the galente AR? what does that tell you about the HMG? Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
cedz636 Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 128	Posted - 2014.02.05 15:10:00 - [55] - Quote Plasma cannons are way more OP than both the CR and RR combined. Nerf the plasma cannon. Don't know why people are crying about the rifles.
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1460	Posted - 2014.02.05 15:12:00 - [56] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Remember before the CR and RR came out how people said the AR was OP, and now that we have the CR and RR people say it's UP. Lololol What does that tell you about the RR and CR? Especially when AR was actually buffed? That the RR and CR are OP as fudge. and yet Scr at proficiency 2 with no damage modes do 100+ damage to armor in 1 uncharged shot. and their bonus is to shields. no other gun in the game other than snipers and shotguns wit their obvious limitations, can deal that much damage in 1 shot. what does that tell you about the Scr? Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
Galthur Fatal Absolution Public Disorder. 315	Posted - 2014.02.05 15:24:00 - [57] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: I don't get it.. RR is good CR is good RR is good It sounds like you guys just don't like to ever change your play style. In the city use a CR/AR. Both are great and the AR DPS wise is still good. Elsewhere use a RR/SR/LR. You need to be able to adapt and change to wherever is needed, not just whatever weapon you have the most SP into. Now, the weapons all need some tweaks, but a damage nerf on all rifles would be a big start. Actually AR has 3 less damage per minute than the RR. 2nd lowest in game only to RR and the RR can shoot longer, has greater accuracy, and far greater range. What do you post in the war room when CCP is gone and PC is locked? 14:44 [CCP]Logibro: Not Anime.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 578	Posted - 2014.02.05 15:30:00 - [58] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: zibathy numbertwo wrote: This is the worst FotM in Dust history. Never have I been so hopelessly stomped by OP weapons. RR and CR are literally two different reincarnations of H I T L E R himself. This is the first time I have quit playing Dust (for the time being, you ***** parasites) because of a FotM. I miss being killed by mass drivers. I honestly miss AR 514. And you're just a sour * if you disagree. At least you could kill someone with an AR. CR and RR users are invincible. Even combat logis were better than this - I miss when caldari logi had that bonus to shield extender efficacy; even THAT was better than this . I miss murder taxis. Even murder taxis were better. I have been playing this game for a full year now and... this is the worst. Really, truly, gamebreakingly bad. Comparatively, this is the worst FotM of all time, and I would gladly, without a doubt, take on any other FotM over this one - maybe even two since this pretty much is 2 FotMs at once when you add in tanks. I can't seriously be the only one who feels this way. 1. Tanks are killing the game 2. caldari logi's were the single worst thing in dust, the second being TAC ARs and the HMG nerf 3. the game feels alot more balanced since I see people get killed by CR, RR, AR and Scr 4. Scr is way more OP. its literally the only AR used in PC. 5. AR514 went on since 1.2 till now. Hell the no. just because you have all your points in galente ARs doesnt mean it should be the ***** best ass rifle in the god damned game. To be honest the AR schould be best Assault Rifle in game as all other Assault variants should only mimic the AR, just like the SCR should be the best tactical variant, the RR the best breach variant and the CR the best Burst variant. Sadly CCP messed things up...Again...and even though the CPM was quite eager to prenerf the cloak they did nothing to prevent the introduction of these new rifles. We have told them numerous times that this would happen as soon we saw the weapon stats...but no one really cared
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1460	Posted - 2014.02.05 15:36:00 - [59] - Quote Korvin Lomont wrote: D legendary hero wrote: zibathy numbertwo wrote: This is the worst FotM in Dust history. Never have I been so hopelessly stomped by OP weapons. RR and CR are literally two different reincarnations of H I T L E R himself. This is the first time I have quit playing Dust (for the time being, you ***** parasites) because of a FotM. I miss being killed by mass drivers. I honestly miss AR 514. And you're just a sour * if you disagree. At least you could kill someone with an AR. CR and RR users are invincible. Even combat logis were better than this - I miss when caldari logi had that bonus to shield extender efficacy; even THAT was better than this . I miss murder taxis. Even murder taxis were better. I have been playing this game for a full year now and... this is the worst. Really, truly, gamebreakingly bad. Comparatively, this is the worst FotM of all time, and I would gladly, without a doubt, take on any other FotM over this one - maybe even two since this pretty much is 2 FotMs at once when you add in tanks. I can't seriously be the only one who feels this way. 1. Tanks are killing the game 2. caldari logi's were the single worst thing in dust, the second being TAC ARs and the HMG nerf 3. the game feels alot more balanced since I see people get killed by CR, RR, AR and Scr 4. Scr is way more OP. its literally the only AR used in PC. 5. AR514 went on since 1.2 till now. Hell the no. just because you have all your points in galente ARs doesnt mean it should be the ***** best ass rifle in the god damned game. To be honest the AR schould be best Assault Rifle in game as all other Assault variants should only mimic the AR, just like the SCR should be the best tactical variant, the RR the best breach variant and the CR the best Burst variant. Sadly CCP messed things up...Again...and even though the CPM was quite eager to prenerf the cloak they did nothing to prevent the introduction of these new rifles. We have told them numerous times that this would happen as soon we saw the weapon stats...but no one really cared then the focus isn't really the CR, RR or Scr being better than the AR. (which the CR isn't better than the AR), but on nerfing the assault variants of the CR, RR, and Scr. the ACR just would need a bit of a range nerf, by about 5-7% less range. The already high recoil, damage fall off and dispersion will take care of the rest. the ARR needs again to have its hip fire spread increased dramatically, to reduce its efficacy in close range. it will still be better than the std RR for CQC but not better than the GAR. Ascr should have a slightly faster overheat mechanic. it has one but you normally obliterate your foe before it becomes a problem. make the ass scrambler rifle have a 10-15% increase to its current overheat time. doing these will make the galente AR feel more balanced. Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
tastzlike chicken ROGUE SPADES 130	Posted - 2014.02.05 16:10:00 - [60] - Quote zibathy numbertwo wrote: This is the worst FotM in Dust history. Never have I been so hopelessly stomped by OP weapons. RR and CR are literally two different reincarnations of H I T L E R himself. This is the first time I have quit playing Dust (for the time being, you ***** parasites) because of a FotM. I miss being killed by mass drivers. I honestly miss AR 514. And you're just a sour * if you disagree. At least you could kill someone with an AR. CR and RR users are invincible. Even combat logis were better than this - I miss when caldari logi had that bonus to shield extender efficacy; even THAT was better than this **. I miss murder taxis. Even murder taxis were better. I have been playing this game for a full year now and... this is the worst. Really, truly, gamebreakingly bad. Comparatively, this is the worst FotM of all time, and I would gladly, without a doubt, take on any other FotM over this one - maybe even two since this pretty much is 2 FotMs at once when you add in tanks. I can't seriously be the only one who feels this way. I can't take this post seriously due to: 1. Godwins Law 2. Tac AR 3. Unhittable scouts 4. Unhittable scouts with Tac AR's 5. Anti-personnel swarm launchers 6. Contact grenade spam 7. God-mode small missile launchers 8. Flaylock 9. Murder taxis 10. Godwins Law (Yes, I put it twice)



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