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D legendary hero wrote:

Korvin Lomont wrote:

D legendary hero wrote:

zibathy numbertwo wrote:

This is the worst FotM in Dust history. Never have I been so hopelessly stomped by OP weapons. RR and CR are literally two different reincarnations of H I T L E R himself. This is the first time I have quit playing Dust (for the time being, you ******* parasites) because of a FotM.

I miss being killed by mass drivers.

I honestly miss AR 514. And you're just a sour ***** if you disagree. At least you could kill someone with an AR. CR and RR users are invincible.

Even combat logis were better than this **** - I miss when caldari logi had that bonus to shield extender efficacy; even THAT was better than this ****.

I miss murder taxis. Even murder taxis were better.

I have been playing this game for a full year now and... this is the worst. Really, truly, gamebreakingly bad.

Comparatively, this is the worst FotM of all time, and I would gladly, without a doubt, take on any other FotM over this one - maybe even two since this pretty much is 2 FotMs at once when you add in tanks.

I can't seriously be the only one who feels this way.

1. Tanks are killing the game

2. caldari logi's were the single worst thing in dust, the second being TAC ARs and the HMG nerf

3. the game feels alot more balanced since I see people get killed by CR, RR, AR and Scr

4. Scr is way more OP. its literally the only AR used in PC.

5. AR514 went on since 1.2 till now. Hell the **** no. just because you have all your points in galente ARs doesnt mean it should be the ******* best ass rifle in the god damned game.

To be honest the AR schould be best Assault Rifle in game as all other Assault variants should only mimic the AR, just like the SCR should be the best tactical variant, the RR the best breach variant and the CR the best Burst variant.

Sadly CCP messed things up...Again...and even though the CPM was quite eager to prenerf the cloak they did nothing to prevent the introduction of these new rifles.

We have told them numerous times that this would happen as soon we saw the weapon stats...but no one really cared

then the focus isn't really the CR, RR or Scr being better than the AR. (which the CR isn't better than the AR), but on nerfing the assault variants of the CR, RR, and Scr.

the ACR just would need a bit of a range nerf, by about 5-7% less range. The already high recoil, damage fall off and dispersion will take care of the rest.

the ARR needs again to have its hip fire spread increased dramatically, to reduce its efficacy in close range. it will still be better than the std RR for CQC but not better than the GAR.

Ascr should have a slightly faster overheat mechanic. it has one but you normally obliterate your foe before it becomes a problem. make the ass scrambler rifle have a 10-15% increase to its current overheat time.

doing these will make the galente AR feel more balanced.

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Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 844	Posted - 2014.02.05 17:07:00 - [61] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Remember before the CR and RR came out how people said the AR was OP, and now that we have the CR and RR people say it's UP. Lololol What does that tell you about the RR and CR? Especially when AR was actually buffed? That the RR and CR are OP as fudge. and yet Scr at proficiency 2 with no damage modes do 100+ damage to armor in 1 uncharged shot. and their bonus is to shields. no other gun in the game other than snipers and shotguns wit their obvious limitations, can deal that much damage in 1 shot. what does that tell you about the Scr? I've said multiple times in multiple threads that all rifles are op
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 844	Posted - 2014.02.05 17:08:00 - [62] - Quote CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: come'on guys... You can easily counter the CR users by strafing, and you can destroy the RR users by getting up close and personal. Personally, I run a Gallente Scout and with a standard CR, and yes. It will destroy anything within a 25 m radius. But anything further then 50m it is absolutely impossible to deal damage. Each weapon has its pro's and Cons. And as much as you enjoy you're railrifle, my CR will feast on you're Proto remains My CR destroys out to 50m Rifles need nerfs
Zirzo Valcyn Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 78	Posted - 2014.02.05 17:21:00 - [63] - Quote more of a symptom of a poorly thought out overaim assist bandaid. if that wasn't there the rifles would be just fine u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 428	Posted - 2014.02.05 17:27:00 - [64] - Quote I don't think the RR is very bad. My AR-Scout only engages at ranges less than 40 meters and even then preferably from the back. RR users are rather easy to take on like this due to their added spool up time. This may be early judgment but the assault FG I acquired recently seems to deal really well with tanks. MLT HAVs have 9 seconds to live before they pop and STD HAVs generally decide it's better to crush red dots in MLT suits somewhere else. The CR can really hurt though in the right hand. But I didn't skill into it so I won't judge it. I do however wonder why anyone who has both the AR and CR at equal skill levels would decide to use the AR.
Kam Elto KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 182	Posted - 2014.02.05 17:34:00 - [65] - Quote It's not the guns. It's the players. It's the situations that players put themselves in and get put into. Going up against good players and you probably lose. Against bad players and you probably win. Favorable situations and you probably win. Unfavorable situations and you probably lose. Deal with it.
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1348	Posted - 2014.02.05 17:49:00 - [66] - Quote "this is the worst fotm ever in dust history" infinite range OP large missile turrets. checkmate. gunships. yes there was a time when DSs were OP as ***. scouts that out ran hit detection (and sometimes the frame rate) "God favors the side with the best artillery"* ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout. CLOSED BETA VET
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 845	Posted - 2014.02.05 17:50:00 - [67] - Quote Zirzo Valcyn wrote: more of a symptom of a poorly thought out overaim assist bandaid. if that wasn't there the rifles would be just fine Lies, AA dosent change the fact that the rifles are much more effective than other guns With AA off there still much more powerful
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1089	Posted - 2014.02.05 17:53:00 - [68] - Quote You know nothing about Over powered if you didnt see the dropships of old..... You think these tanks are bad? Laugh...... Ever Heard of Black Ops tanks? Then you know nothing... Bunch of sheltered DUST players.... these days i swear...
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1089	Posted - 2014.02.05 17:55:00 - [69] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Zirzo Valcyn wrote: more of a symptom of a poorly thought out overaim assist bandaid. if that wasn't there the rifles would be just fine Lies, AA dosent change the fact that the rifles are much more effective than other guns With AA off there still much more powerful You do realize they actually require skill to aim with... and hit.. consistently.... Not so much with AA..... Let's not even think about when the target moves!!! amagad!!! "Stand still while i shoot you boy!!!!!" "Damn texas two stepper"
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 1193	Posted - 2014.02.05 17:58:00 - [70] - Quote Not FOTM is a "Good" FOTM... this is a game, not a restaurant ....

Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 845	Posted - 2014.02.05 18:17:00 - [71] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Zirzo Valcyn wrote: more of a symptom of a poorly thought out overaim assist bandaid. if that wasn't there the rifles would be just fine Lies, AA dosent change the fact that the rifles are much more effective than other guns With AA off there still much more powerful You do realize they actually require skill to aim with... and hit.. consistently.... Not so much with AA..... Let's not even think about when the target moves!!! amagad!!! "Stand still while i shoot you boy!!!!!" "Damn texas two stepper" So without AA the plasma cannon would be as good as a rail rifle or combat rifle? No
OZAROW Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 1342	Posted - 2014.02.05 18:27:00 - [72] - Quote I find it hilarious to watch people b!tch about dying, whhann this is Op , WHAN I die too fast! Lol f#*king awesome! Happy you do ! Maybe you should replace your 150 shields an 4 damage mods for more shields, an quit bulling your way around the map like its 5 months ago and you won't die as fast! I'm a scout, that's played through op phases like, lazers, tac rifles, ar deaths at stupid range, the scr, armor buffs, cal logis, the list goes on. Now theirs a armor killing gun that's making you change your play style an you b!tch like little girls, ya you die fast, so what! Try having 300 HP ! Still getting 30 kill games so your doing something wrong if ur getting caught out there when you know how powerfull the weapons are an your not changing your style. Hate to say it but: Adapt or die SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1091	Posted - 2014.02.05 18:32:00 - [73] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Bethhy wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Zirzo Valcyn wrote: more of a symptom of a poorly thought out overaim assist bandaid. if that wasn't there the rifles would be just fine Lies, AA dosent change the fact that the rifles are much more effective than other guns With AA off there still much more powerful You do realize they actually require skill to aim with... and hit.. consistently.... Not so much with AA..... Let's not even think about when the target moves!!! amagad!!! "Stand still while i shoot you boy!!!!!" "Damn texas two stepper" So without AA the plasma cannon would be as good as a rail rifle or combat rifle? No Depends on the circumstance as it would with every specialty weapon. but would Lasers be as useless as they are right now if a majority of the RR users didn't have AA? Same case with mass drivers... a PLC on the high position playing peakaboo between reloads against someone aiming for themselfs? yes stuff starts becoming balanced when people are having to do a majority of the aiming for themselfs.
ugg reset Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 474	Posted - 2014.02.05 18:34:00 - [74] - Quote play as a scout. Everthing kills you to fast, and yet everything has trouble fighting you. Thr33 is the magic number.
CrotchGrab 360 The Men In The Mirror 1415	Posted - 2014.02.05 18:37:00 - [75] - Quote I can't use my mass driver account anymore, I just go negative. My shotgun guy using the same dropsuit does well sometimes but goes negative against rail rifles and combat rifles. I feel your pain, you can't use a 9m/s+ suit if you only have 300hp, you literally can't be touched or seen or scanned by anyone with a rail rifle. The sad part of it is that if my shotgun touches you, even with no proficiency, you'll die with either 1 or 2 shots. This account however is 2.5KD, rail rifle prof 4, now i feel sorry for the people who die in half a second to me. You really do have to use the weapon and get worked by the weapon in a squishy suit to see how the weapon really performs. DUST VIDEOS
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 845	Posted - 2014.02.05 18:49:00 - [76] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Bethhy wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Zirzo Valcyn wrote: more of a symptom of a poorly thought out overaim assist bandaid. if that wasn't there the rifles would be just fine Lies, AA dosent change the fact that the rifles are much more effective than other guns With AA off there still much more powerful You do realize they actually require skill to aim with... and hit.. consistently.... Not so much with AA..... Let's not even think about when the target moves!!! amagad!!! "Stand still while i shoot you boy!!!!!" "Damn texas two stepper" So without AA the plasma cannon would be as good as a rail rifle or combat rifle? No Depends on the circumstance as it would with every specialty weapon. but would Lasers be as useless as they are right now if a majority of the RR users didn't have AA? Same case with mass drivers... a PLC on the high position playing peakaboo between reloads against someone aiming for themselfs? yes stuff starts becoming balanced when people are having to do a majority of the aiming for themselfs. ... I can't take this seriously
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 578	Posted - 2014.02.05 18:58:00 - [77] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: Korvin Lomont wrote: D legendary hero wrote: zibathy numbertwo wrote: This is the worst FotM in Dust history. Never have I been so hopelessly stomped by OP weapons. RR and CR are literally two different reincarnations of H I T L E R himself. This is the first time I have quit playing Dust (for the time being, you ***** parasites) because of a FotM. I miss being killed by mass drivers. I honestly miss AR 514. And you're just a sour * if you disagree. At least you could kill someone with an AR. CR and RR users are invincible. Even combat logis were better than this - I miss when caldari logi had that bonus to shield extender efficacy; even THAT was better than this . I miss murder taxis. Even murder taxis were better. I have been playing this game for a full year now and... this is the worst. Really, truly, gamebreakingly bad. Comparatively, this is the worst FotM of all time, and I would gladly, without a doubt, take on any other FotM over this one - maybe even two since this pretty much is 2 FotMs at once when you add in tanks. I can't seriously be the only one who feels this way. 1. Tanks are killing the game 2. caldari logi's were the single worst thing in dust, the second being TAC ARs and the HMG nerf 3. the game feels alot more balanced since I see people get killed by CR, RR, AR and Scr 4. Scr is way more OP. its literally the only AR used in PC. 5. AR514 went on since 1.2 till now. Hell the no. just because you have all your points in galente ARs doesnt mean it should be the ***** best ass rifle in the god damned game. To be honest the AR schould be best Assault Rifle in game as all other Assault variants should only mimic the AR, just like the SCR should be the best tactical variant, the RR the best breach variant and the CR the best Burst variant. Sadly CCP messed things up...Again...and even though the CPM was quite eager to prenerf the cloak they did nothing to prevent the introduction of these new rifles. We have told them numerous times that this would happen as soon we saw the weapon stats...but no one really cared then the focus isn't really the CR, RR or Scr being better than the AR. (which the CR isn't better than the AR), but on nerfing the assault variants of the CR, RR, and Scr. the ACR just would need a bit of a range nerf, by about 5-7% less range. The already high recoil, damage fall off and dispersion will take care of the rest. the ARR needs again to have its hip fire spread increased dramatically, to reduce its efficacy in close range. it will still be better than the std RR for CQC but not better than the GAR. Ascr should have a slightly faster overheat mechanic. it has one but you normally obliterate your foe before it becomes a problem. make the ass scrambler rifle have a 10-15% increase to its current overheat time. doing these will make the galente AR feel more balanced. Well in theory you are right, but you also have to consider DPS vs Range balance and the balance between the variants. Its quite stupifd to give long range weapons the same DPS like CQC weapons (especially for weapons that rely on dps). If he long range weapon provides the same or very close cqc power whats the reason to use the way more limited short range weapon. I am pretty sure no one wants the AR as powerfull compared to ACR as the CR is towards the Burst AR (the CR has roughly 50% more dps and more Range) The same is true for RR compared to the Breach AR (the RR has again roughly 50 more dps and nearly double the range). IF the AR would equally superior to the other racial Assault variants like the other originals towards the gallente mimics the AR would have at least somewhat between 600 and 700 dps on the std variant (not even considering the range advantages of the other assaut variants)...
Doanna WarRavens League of Infamy 1	Posted - 2014.02.05 19:47:00 - [78] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I really don't give a f*ck what others use, i use what i like and i still destroy everyone on the battlefield with my weapons... This guy. ^ You should all take a lesson from him.
SPACE SYPHILIS Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.02.05 20:12:00 - [79] - Quote Lets just say you lack the skill to use the weapon and now you QQ because you failed to adapt. Learn to use the weapon or find a counter either way its your fault you cannot deal with the new weapons. They are not OP, it comes down to the user not the gear. Get good or go play minecraft. Just STFU already.
Teilka Darkmist 205	Posted - 2014.02.05 20:33:00 - [80] - Quote My RR fits are regularly being taken out by ScR, AR and CR wielders. So are all my other fits for that matter. Well, except the sniper fits, they tend to be taken out by other sniper rifles. Of course I also don't use AA. And I'm probably pretty crap at fitting as I don't have skills for proto anything except SR and AR When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own.

zibathy numbertwo Nox Aeterna Security 423	Posted - 2014.02.06 02:15:00 - [81] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: zibathy numbertwo wrote: This is the worst FotM in Dust history. Never have I been so hopelessly stomped by OP weapons. RR and CR are literally two different reincarnations of H I T L E R himself. This is the worst attempt to identify the FotM in Dust history. Tanks are very, very obviously the flavour of the month. Do you even own this game? Long Live Freedom; Long Live the Federation.
Scheneighnay McBob Learning Coalition College 3923	Posted - 2014.02.06 02:20:00 - [82] - Quote Definitely. All the other FOTMs (except AR 514) had realistic counters. Rail and Combat rifles do not. I am your scan error.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1222	Posted - 2014.02.06 02:33:00 - [83] - Quote at least there are two now.
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 12	Posted - 2014.02.06 03:40:00 - [84] - Quote Try some of the long range weapons, like the tacAR or the laser rifle. They hold their own against the new weapons at their optimal range. And if you don't have tacARs, and don't want to deal with the laser rifles "amazing" damage at close range, then pick up a breach rifle. It works wonders. Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 12	Posted - 2014.02.06 03:44:00 - [85] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Bethhy wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Zirzo Valcyn wrote: more of a symptom of a poorly thought out overaim assist bandaid. if that wasn't there the rifles would be just fine Lies, AA dosent change the fact that the rifles are much more effective than other guns With AA off there still much more powerful You do realize they actually require skill to aim with... and hit.. consistently.... Not so much with AA..... Let's not even think about when the target moves!!! amagad!!! "Stand still while i shoot you boy!!!!!" "Damn texas two stepper" So without AA the plasma cannon would be as good as a rail rifle or combat rifle? No Does the PLC even have aim assist? Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 456	Posted - 2014.02.06 03:58:00 - [86] - Quote weapons aim assist does not effect or is ineffective for- mass driver flaylock pistol nova knives sniper rifle shotgun forge gun plasma cannon swarm launcher (has lock on though, which is even better) Did i miss any? the only thing that needs aim assist is squad commands, those things are damn hard to hit with! Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Ryme Intrinseca 573	Posted - 2014.02.06 13:14:00 - [87] - Quote zibathy numbertwo wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: zibathy numbertwo wrote: This is the worst FotM in Dust history. Never have I been so hopelessly stomped by OP weapons. RR and CR are literally two different reincarnations of H I T L E R himself. This is the worst attempt to identify the FotM in Dust history. Tanks are very, very obviously the flavour of the month. Do you even own this game? Q. Which thing in the game makes you totally immune to 90% of infantry weapons, virtually immune to the 10% of infantry weapons specifically designed to counter it, while giving you enough firepower to destroy infantry, installations, and vehicles with ease? A. Not combat rifles or rail rifles.
zibathy numbertwo Nox Aeterna Security 426	Posted - 2014.02.07 04:23:00 - [88] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: zibathy numbertwo wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: zibathy numbertwo wrote: This is the worst FotM in Dust history. Never have I been so hopelessly stomped by OP weapons. RR and CR are literally two different reincarnations of H I T L E R himself. This is the worst attempt to identify the FotM in Dust history. Tanks are very, very obviously the flavour of the month. Do you even own this game? Q. Which thing in the game makes you totally immune to 90% of infantry weapons, virtually immune to the 10% of infantry weapons specifically designed to counter it, while giving you enough firepower to destroy infantry, installations, and vehicles with ease? A. Not combat rifles or rail rifles. Tanks aren't a fitting, they are a vehicle. They aren't a "FotM" by definition. That was my point. But yes, they are OP as **. AR Dmg: 34, RoF: 750 RPM, DPS: 425, RR Dmg: 55, RoF: 461 RPM, DPS: 422**, + double the range. Balanced.
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4429	Posted - 2014.02.07 04:31:00 - [89] - Quote Actually the only FOTM that made me rage quit for a couple of weeks was the FLaylock pistol trend... Oh and on your sig: Quote: AR Dmg: 34, RoF: 750 RPM, DPS: 425,Faster reload speed, Better CQ Hipfire, Easier to apply full DPS, no spool time,bigger clip size,greater ammo capacity, more Skills to perfect the weapon. RR Dmg: 55, RoF: 461 RPM, DPS: 422, + double the range. FIXED If you dont have what it takes, pick up a RR yourself.* AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG
Ryme Intrinseca 590	Posted - 2014.02.07 08:49:00 - [90] - Quote zibathy numbertwo wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: zibathy numbertwo wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: zibathy numbertwo wrote: This is the worst FotM in Dust history. Never have I been so hopelessly stomped by OP weapons. RR and CR are literally two different reincarnations of H I T L E R himself. This is the worst attempt to identify the FotM in Dust history. Tanks are very, very obviously the flavour of the month. Do you even own this game? Q. Which thing in the game makes you totally immune to 90% of infantry weapons, virtually immune to the 10% of infantry weapons specifically designed to counter it, while giving you enough firepower to destroy infantry, installations, and vehicles with ease? A. Not combat rifles or rail rifles. Tanks aren't a fitting, they are a vehicle. They aren't a "FotM" by definition. That was my point. But yes, they are OP as ****. A CR/RR isn't a fitting either, it's a rifle. Do you even Dust, bro?



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