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KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4354	Posted - 2014.02.03 22:29:00 - [1] - Quote .....a NATURAL 10% or 15% HEAT REDUCTION as a buff? Considering the Amarr Assault will loose its 25% Laser weaponry HEAT SINK? Discuss. AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1173	Posted - 2014.02.03 22:29:00 - [2] - Quote Yes. Yes. Yes. +1 sir! PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2461	Posted - 2014.02.03 22:30:00 - [3] - Quote No because poorly thought out balancing reasons on CCPs part Im not drunk, the planet just happens to be especially wobbly today.
Infine Sentinel Better Hide R Die 644	Posted - 2014.02.03 22:31:00 - [4] - Quote No. No. No. -1 Sir! Pie.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8787	Posted - 2014.02.03 22:31:00 - [5] - Quote YEEEESSSSS!!!!! 15% I feel that the SCR overheats a bit too fast without the current Amarr bonus. I have Amarr assault currently at lv3, and I feel it is just right. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 2348	Posted - 2014.02.03 22:31:00 - [6] - Quote We don't even know the bonuses that will be applied. The scout bonuses changed completely from what was shown on SiSi Buying EVE CE codes for Dust ISK Corp services
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6549	Posted - 2014.02.03 22:31:00 - [7] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: .....a NATURAL 10% or 15% HEAT REDUCTION as a buff? Considering the Amarr Assault will loose its 25% Laser weaponry HEAT SINK? Discuss. No "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 8904	Posted - 2014.02.03 22:32:00 - [8] - Quote No. I say this as a proficiency 5 user who used it on a non-Amarr assault for a very long time. Also, these changes aren't 'set in stone'. Although that doesn't mean much with CCP, wait and see. ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 280	Posted - 2014.02.03 22:32:00 - [9] - Quote Lol NO NO NO War never changes
Squagga The State Protectorate 124	Posted - 2014.02.03 22:39:00 - [10] - Quote I'll agree to this. I want you at your best when I come for you Reloading, the silent killer.

xSir Campsalotx G0DS AM0NG MEN 102	Posted - 2014.02.03 22:43:00 - [11] - Quote Honestly the reason I never thought the scrambler was OP was because the Amarr assualt is required to really make the scrambler shine (suit/weapon synergy) if the scrambler inherently had the bonus it would be OP.
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4356	Posted - 2014.02.03 22:47:00 - [12] - Quote xSir Campsalotx wrote: Honestly the reason I never thought the scrambler was OP was because the Amarr assualt is required to really make the scrambler shine (suit/weapon synergy) if the scrambler inherently had the bonus it would be OP. but its not the same 25% the Amarr Assault has. Its only 10% or 15%. IMO the amarr assault should just keep it.... But in the case the A.Assault looses it, the Suit/weapon synergy you talk about will be lost.... Where does that leave the SCR RIFLE. AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4358	Posted - 2014.02.03 22:49:00 - [13] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: No. I say this as a proficiency 5 user who used it on a non-Amarr assault for a very long time. Also, these changes aren't 'set in stone'. Although that doesn't mean much with CCP, wait and see. We are talking about ALL scr rifle, not just damage modded,Prof 5, Viziam ones on proto suits >..> Mah fren. AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 8904	Posted - 2014.02.03 22:51:00 - [14] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: No. I say this as a proficiency 5 user who used it on a non-Amarr assault for a very long time. Also, these changes aren't 'set in stone'. Although that doesn't mean much with CCP, wait and see. We are talking about ALL scr rifle, not just damage modded,Prof 5, Viziam ones on proto suits >..> Mah fren. I often use the templar SCR without any damage mods on militia suits. So no, I still don't agree. I think the bonus should stay on the suit. But applying even part of it inherently would be very, very powerful. ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4358	Posted - 2014.02.03 22:55:00 - [15] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: No. I say this as a proficiency 5 user who used it on a non-Amarr assault for a very long time. Also, these changes aren't 'set in stone'. Although that doesn't mean much with CCP, wait and see. We are talking about ALL scr rifle, not just damage modded,Prof 5, Viziam ones on proto suits >..> Mah fren. I often use the templar SCR without any damage mods on militia suits. So no, I still don't agree. I think the bonus should stay on the suit. But applying even part of it inherently would be very, very powerful. Well i agree with you, it SHOULD STAY ON THE SUIT. But if it doesnt then what? Its not like im proposing a 25% heat reduction buff, its only 10-15% PLUS, you are a SKILLED SCR user, you need to think of the ''not so skilled'' players. Its like saying , oh yeah, ''Viktor and Lea silencio can go 30+ with a Templar SCR rifle in STD suits'' ITS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING XD Thats the player that needs a nerf X) AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
xSir Campsalotx G0DS AM0NG MEN 102	Posted - 2014.02.03 22:59:00 - [16] - Quote If they take away suit bonus meh maybe idk perhaps. I do enjoy the Amarr and his weapon though hopefully they keep the bonus. On a side note Amarr assualt, viziam scrambler and modded controller is crazy OP and fun y'all should try it.
Faquira Bleuetta Fatal Absolution Public Disorder. 213	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:04:00 - [17] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: We don't even know the bonuses that will be applied. The scout bonuses changed completely from what was shown on SiSi the amarr scout sux i want sisi cloak bonus+ stamina for amarr Fatal Absolution bench proficiency lvl 5 why so serious zatara
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4359	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:05:00 - [18] - Quote xSir Campsalotx wrote: If they take away suit bonus meh maybe idk perhaps. I do enjoy the Amarr and his weapon though hopefully they keep the bonus. On a side note Amarr assualt, viziam scrambler and modded controller is crazy OP and fun y'all should try it. Ima a true Amarr and have honor. I dont use Modded controllers. But ty anyways. AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 991	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:08:00 - [19] - Quote Just keep the bonus. An innate bonus would make it so the ScR would be as effective on any and all suits, keeping the bonus on the Amarr Assault means that you have to skill into the Assault ak.0 for the ScR to be as effective as it can be; which is what greatly affected my decision in choosing the suit There is no point in using the assault ak.0 if other suits can use the ScR as effectively as the ak.0 can The Sinwarden
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1817	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:09:00 - [20] - Quote No, because it is relevant mechanic. It was balanced before, the fact that suit no longer unbalances it, is not reason to permanently unbalance it. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1

Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 1469	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:14:00 - [21] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: No, because it is relevant mechanic. It was balanced before, the fact that suit no longer unbalances it, is not reason to permanently unbalance it. The suit... doesn't unbalance it? Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters. Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4361	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:16:00 - [22] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: No, because it is relevant mechanic. It was balanced before, the fact that suit no longer unbalances it, is not reason to permanently unbalance it. WHAT? The Amarr suit does not unbalance it. It barely makes it 100% Functional. (ANd after level 4+) AND STILL, all rifles can unload the WHOLE CLIP on (for example) a HEAVY with 1400+ EHP and kill him while the SCR rifle CANT. STILL YOu cant kill 3-4 guys in a row with the SCR rifle , LIKE ALL THE OTHER RIFLES CAN. And STILL have the insane Fitting requirements, crappy sight and overheat mechanic. What is this unbalance you are talking about? the ONLY good feature the SCR has? the Charged shot? You want balance? I want the Six Kin and Boundless CR to have 20PG Fitting requirement. NOW THATS balance... AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 1470	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:19:00 - [23] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: No, because it is relevant mechanic. It was balanced before, the fact that suit no longer unbalances it, is not reason to permanently unbalance it. WHAT? The Amarr suit does not unbalance it. It barely makes it 100% Functional. (ANd after level 4+) AND STILL, all rifles can unload the WHOLE CLIP on (for example) a HEAVY with 1400+ EHP and kill him while the SCR rifle CANT. STILL YOu cant kill 3-4 guys in a row with the SCR rifle , LIKE ALL THE OTHER RIFLES CAN. And STILL have the insane Fitting requirements, crappy sight and overheat mechanic. What is this unbalance you are talking about? the ONLY good feature the SCR has? the Charged shot? You want balance? I want the Six Kin and Boundless CR to have 20PG Fitting requirement.... I want the RR to have Overheat mechanic.... NOW THATS balance... Basically this. lol8PG on CR. Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters. Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1176	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:25:00 - [24] - Quote Squagga wrote: I'll agree to this. I want you at your best when I come for you I heard that you're looking for me... PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
Squagga The State Protectorate 128	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:25:00 - [25] - Quote I'm glad you lowered your request. Earlier you were saying 50%? One thing I think though is it should only get two of those charged shots, reguardless of any buff. In the hands of a few of you it would just be too dangerous. But the single shots on the charge variant should be higher. I used this as my one of my mains during the war. It's too few shots when you're outnumbered and cornered. And then the fukkin thing kills you while you're defending yourself Reloading, the silent killer.
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6553	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:25:00 - [26] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Squagga wrote: I'll agree to this. I want you at your best when I come for you I heard that you're looking for me... **** you just pissed off one of the two best ScR users in the game...... "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 403	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:26:00 - [27] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: .....a NATURAL 10% or 15% HEAT REDUCTION as a buff? Considering the Amarr Assault will loose its 25% Laser weaponry HEAT SINK? Discuss. i agree the Amarr assault SHOULD KEEP THE BONUS, this is in the case IT GETS REMOVED. please stop saying: ''i think the AA should keep the bonus''. WELL OF COURSE, but thats not what im asking here...... read my sig bro Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Flint Beastgood III GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 500	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:27:00 - [28] - Quote I'm not really fussed one way or the other. The main reason I specced into Amarr Assault (level 3) was for the SCR bonus, and I took it to level 5 to buff my Templar suit once it was released. Since then, I have taken to using the CR most of the time, so I guess it doesn't really make a difference to me. Having the SCR be less deadly is not necessarily a bad thing since it is (IMO) as crazily lethal (on any suit) as the RR. Gÿó +¦ +¦ Gÿó Trained Skills
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4363	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:27:00 - [29] - Quote Squagga wrote: I'm glad you lowered your request. Earlier you were saying 50%? One thing I think though is it should only get two of those charged shots, reguardless of any buff. In the hands of a few of you it would just be too dangerous. But the single shots on the charge variant should be higher. I used this as my one of my mains during the war. It's too few shots when you're outnumbered and cornered. And then the fukkin thing kills you while you're defending yourself Well the 50% Heat buid-up reduction ON CHARGED SHOTS , but heat increase in quick shots didnt please the community very much.so im trying a different angle here .... XD AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4363	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:29:00 - [30] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: .....a NATURAL 10% or 15% HEAT REDUCTION as a buff? Considering the Amarr Assault will loose its 25% Laser weaponry HEAT SINK? Discuss. i agree the Amarr assault SHOULD KEEP THE BONUS, this is in the case IT GETS REMOVED. please stop saying: ''i think the AA should keep the bonus''. WELL OF COURSE, but thats not what im asking here...... read my sig bro I already likes that S/** a like a while ago, what else do you want from me.? TELL ME!? D': AceOfJokers666** [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG

Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 404	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:31:00 - [31] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: .....a NATURAL 10% or 15% HEAT REDUCTION as a buff? Considering the Amarr Assault will loose its 25% Laser weaponry HEAT SINK? Discuss. i agree the Amarr assault SHOULD KEEP THE BONUS, this is in the case IT GETS REMOVED. please stop saying: ''i think the AA should keep the bonus''. WELL OF COURSE, but thats not what im asking here...... read my sig bro I already likes that S/**** a like a while ago, what else do you want from me.? TELL ME!? D': Oh lol sorry i forgot but a bump would be nice. I also updated the part about ScR and CR's so that they switch scopes, cause that makes more sense. Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Squagga The State Protectorate 128	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:34:00 - [32] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Squagga wrote: I'll agree to this. I want you at your best when I come for you I heard that you're looking for me... I'll offer you the same invitation I gave Checkmate. Whenever we see eachother in a pub, send a mail and meet up in a low traffic area. Ya really surprised me when ya kicked my ass. I wanna know if I learned anything from it Reloading, the silent killer.
Squagga The State Protectorate 128	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:36:00 - [33] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Squagga wrote: I'm glad you lowered your request. Earlier you were saying 50%? One thing I think though is it should only get two of those charged shots, reguardless of any buff. In the hands of a few of you it would just be too dangerous. But the single shots on the charge variant should be higher. I used this as my one of my mains during the war. It's too few shots when you're outnumbered and cornered. And then the fukkin thing kills you while you're defending yourself Well the 50% Heat buid-up reduction ON CHARGED SHOTS , but heat increase in quick shots didnt please the community very much.so im trying a different angle here .... XD Oh no I am not signing up for that. No more charged shots for you! You little fukkers got me on edge every time I hear that noise. Honestly though I like that it does that to me Reloading, the silent killer.
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4364	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:40:00 - [34] - Quote Squagga wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Squagga wrote: I'm glad you lowered your request. Earlier you were saying 50%? One thing I think though is it should only get two of those charged shots, reguardless of any buff. In the hands of a few of you it would just be too dangerous. But the single shots on the charge variant should be higher. I used this as my one of my mains during the war. It's too few shots when you're outnumbered and cornered. And then the fukkin thing kills you while you're defending yourself Well the 50% Heat buid-up reduction ON CHARGED SHOTS , but heat increase in quick shots didnt please the community very much.so im trying a different angle here .... XD Oh no I am not signing up for that. No more charged shots for you! You little fukkers got me on edge every time I hear that noise. Honestly though I like that it does that to me D: But, charged shot is the only true reason to USE the SCR Rifle D': Cant you see a STD Combat Rifle hits harder than a VIZIAM SCR RIFLE per R1 button press? (STD CR : 32 x 3 = 96 per R1 Press / / Viziam SCR RIFLE : 79.5 per R1 Press // CR has higher RoF and No Overheat) If you limit the Chargted shot , there really is no reason to use a SCR over a CR IMO u.u AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 813	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:41:00 - [35] - Quote No. The Amarr should just stay with the heat reducing bonus. The weapon itself is fine as it is.
Ama Jin Tath Ametat Security Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:42:00 - [36] - Quote Did you know Amarr backwards is 'Rrama'? Quite interesting, huh? :3
Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 143	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:43:00 - [37] - Quote Please no! The heat up is fun and challenging in itself. I love a weapon that requires skill to use-OR IT WILL KILL YOU! Honestly, this weapon is fun if you put it in the hands of a scout. If anything increasing the damage it does in feedback would make me switch this weapon to my primary The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
Squagga The State Protectorate 129	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:45:00 - [38] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Squagga wrote: I'll agree to this. I want you at your best when I come for you I heard that you're looking for me... **** you just pissed off one of the two best ScR users in the game...... I would LOVE to test your skills. Same offer I extended the other Kameiras Reloading, the silent killer.
Squagga The State Protectorate 129	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:48:00 - [39] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Squagga wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Squagga wrote: I'm glad you lowered your request. Earlier you were saying 50%? One thing I think though is it should only get two of those charged shots, reguardless of any buff. In the hands of a few of you it would just be too dangerous. But the single shots on the charge variant should be higher. I used this as my one of my mains during the war. It's too few shots when you're outnumbered and cornered. And then the fukkin thing kills you while you're defending yourself Well the 50% Heat buid-up reduction ON CHARGED SHOTS , but heat increase in quick shots didnt please the community very much.so im trying a different angle here .... XD Oh no I am not signing up for that. No more charged shots for you! You little fukkers got me on edge every time I hear that noise. Honestly though I like that it does that to me D: But, charged shot is the only true reason to USE the SCR Rifle D': Cant you see a STD Combat Rifle hits harder than a VIZIAM SCR RIFLE per R1 button press? (STD CR : 32 x 3 = 96 per R1 Press / / Viziam SCR RIFLE : 79.5 per R1 Press // CR has higher RoF and No Overheat) If you limit the Chargted shot , there really is no reason to use a SCR over a CR IMO u.u I'll give you guys respect for being able to use that charged shot in the middle of it all but no. I just don't agree that you need more than those two Reloading, the silent killer.
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4364	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:51:00 - [40] - Quote Squagga wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Squagga wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Squagga wrote: I'm glad you lowered your request. Earlier you were saying 50%? One thing I think though is it should only get two of those charged shots, reguardless of any buff. In the hands of a few of you it would just be too dangerous. But the single shots on the charge variant should be higher. I used this as my one of my mains during the war. It's too few shots when you're outnumbered and cornered. And then the fukkin thing kills you while you're defending yourself Well the 50% Heat buid-up reduction ON CHARGED SHOTS , but heat increase in quick shots didnt please the community very much.so im trying a different angle here .... XD Oh no I am not signing up for that. No more charged shots for you! You little fukkers got me on edge every time I hear that noise. Honestly though I like that it does that to me D: But, charged shot is the only true reason to USE the SCR Rifle D': Cant you see a STD Combat Rifle hits harder than a VIZIAM SCR RIFLE per R1 button press? (STD CR : 32 x 3 = 96 per R1 Press / / Viziam SCR RIFLE : 79.5 per R1 Press // CR has higher RoF and No Overheat) If you limit the Chargted shot , there really is no reason to use a SCR over a CR IMO u.u I'll give you guys respect for being able to use that charged shot in the middle of it all but no. I just don't agree that you need more than those two Ok... u.u AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG

Toby Flenderson research lab 236	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:55:00 - [41] - Quote Infine Sentinel wrote: No. No. No. -1 Sir! Couldn't like this fast enough.
Texs Red DUST University Ivy League 149	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:56:00 - [42] - Quote Please stop with the bold, it's just irritating to look at. Personally I think the Amarr assault should keep it's bonus, it's a good application of a bonus to a suit that creates synergy with it's intended weapons. To be honest, all other assault suits should have different bonuses other than straight RoF because it creates very bland, uncreative fits. Amarr: 5% per level reduction to heat build of laser weapons Caldari: 5% per level increase to range of hybrid weapons Gallente: 5% per level reduction to hybrid weapon hipfire spread Minmatar: 5% per level increase to clip and max ammo of projectile weapons BAM You now have four bonuses that helps each race do what it's supposed to do best while creating variety between the races instead of everybody just getting an increase to RoF. Boring!
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4365	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:04:00 - [43] - Quote Texs Red wrote: Please stop with the bold, it's just irritating to look at. Personally I think the Amarr assault should keep it's bonus, it's a good application of a bonus to a suit that creates synergy with it's intended weapons. To be honest, all other assault suits should have different bonuses other than straight RoF because it creates very bland, uncreative fits. Amarr: 5% per level reduction to heat build of laser weapons Caldari: 5% per level increase to range of hybrid weapons Gallente: 5% per level reduction to hybrid weapon hipfire spread Minmatar: 5% per level increase to clip and max ammo of projectile weapons BAM You now have four bonuses that helps each race do what it's supposed to do best while creating variety between the races instead of everybody just getting an increase to RoF. Boring! 1- I cant stop with the bold, i like it , i dont care what people think of it, i need it to find my posts faster. 2-Thats what i even SAY in the OP. Tht the AA needs to keep its bonus, IN THE CASE IT LOOSES IT, should the weapon be buffed? thats the question. 3- I like your bonuses , +1. Overally , you didnt answer my question: If the A.Assault looses its bonus, should the SCR rifle get a 10 or 15% Heat buildup reduction as a bonus? AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 814	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:06:00 - [44] - Quote Texs Red wrote: Please stop with the bold, it's just irritating to look at. Personally I think the Amarr assault should keep it's bonus, it's a good application of a bonus to a suit that creates synergy with it's intended weapons. To be honest, all other assault suits should have different bonuses other than straight RoF because it creates very bland, uncreative fits. Amarr: 5% per level reduction to heat build of laser weapons Caldari: 5% per level increase to range of hybrid weapons Gallente: 5% per level reduction to hybrid weapon hipfire spread Minmatar: 5% per level increase to clip and max ammo of projectile weapons BAM You now have four bonuses that helps each race do what it's supposed to do best while creating variety between the races instead of everybody just getting an increase to RoF. Boring! Prefer the RoF bonus on the Gallente to make the Plasma Rifle the best assault variant.
Texs Red DUST University Ivy League 152	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:12:00 - [45] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Overally , you didnt answer my question: If the A.Assault looses its bonus, should the SCR rifle get a 10 or 15% Heat buildup reduction as a bonus? The scrambler rifle (I think) was engineered with it cooperating with the amarr assault bonus to make it reach it's full potential but preventing it from becoming OP. If the amarr assault bonus is removed and nothing else offers a reduction to heat buildup with laser weapons then I think it needs to be adjusted slightly to improve performance, especially when it and the plasma rifle (assault rifle) are being largely over shadowed by the CR and RR. Basically the scrambler rifle is loosing performance if it looses the current amarr assault bonus so it deserves a boost in the form of reduced heat buildup.
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4366	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:13:00 - [46] - Quote Texs Red wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Overally , you didnt answer my question: If the A.Assault looses its bonus, should the SCR rifle get a 10 or 15% Heat buildup reduction as a bonus? The scrambler rifle (I think) was engineered with it cooperating with the amarr assault bonus to make it reach it's full potential but preventing it from becoming OP. If the amarr assault bonus is removed and nothing else offers a reduction to heat buildup with laser weapons then I think it needs to be adjusted slightly to improve performance, especially when it and the plasma rifle (assault rifle) are being largely over shadowed by the CR and RR. Basically the scrambler rifle is loosing performance if it looses the current amarr assault bonus so it deserves a boost in the form of reduced heat buildup. Couldnt have said it myself better. AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
Texs Red DUST University Ivy League 152	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:14:00 - [47] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Prefer the RoF bonus on the Gallente to make the Plasma Rifle the best assault variant. The Gallente are supposed to be the best CQC fighters, so give them bonuses that focus on that (hipfire spread). If you want crazy RoF then go Minmatar.
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4366	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:25:00 - [48] - Quote Texs Red wrote: Joel II X wrote: Prefer the RoF bonus on the Gallente to make the Plasma Rifle the best assault variant. The Gallente are supposed to be the best CQC fighters, so give them bonuses that focus on that (hipfire spread). If you want crazy RoF then go Minmatar. Im gonna be honest this whole thread is a little biased, since i have Lv4 Amarr assault and still manage to overheat my SCR RIFLES pretty often (i abuse the Charged shot , but just a little) im scared that without the bonus i might be useless.. :\| AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution Public Disorder. 1523	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:27:00 - [49] - Quote Don't miss... Caldari Tanker/Minmatar Assault Forum warrior lvl 1
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4366	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:29:00 - [50] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Don't miss... Well i dont. But the thing is, SOMETIMES, i have no other option than face 2 or more enemies at the same time....Even without a miss.... AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG

echo47 Minmatar Republic 189	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:35:00 - [51] - Quote No the suit should lose the bonus. I would rather see a heat sink module that reduces heat build up, along with that a ROF increase module for CR and a module that increases range for the RR and AR. I would choose a heat sink module over a damage mod everytime with the scrambler rifle or lazor. I also do not like having to use a girly Amarr suit to get the bonus. I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 671	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:36:00 - [52] - Quote The SCR has a drawback, and you want to remove the drawback...why?
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4366	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:44:00 - [53] - Quote echo47 wrote: No the suit should lose the bonus. I would rather see a heat sink module that reduces heat build up, along with that a ROF increase module for CR and a module that increases range for the RR and AR. I would choose a heat sink module over a damage mod everytime with the scrambler rifle or lazor. I also do not like having to use a girly Amarr suit to get the bonus. Your HEAT SINK module only F's us AMARR over even MORE. Because of our LOW SLOT COUNT, all other races could use our SCR more effectively than we could .... Anything for an Amarr that involves Modules , is crap. we have the LEAST Slots ! (yeah, we dont want the new armor rep bonus. Its stupid CCP) AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4366	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:45:00 - [54] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: The SCR has a drawback, and you want to remove the drawback...why? Because the SCR has more than ONE Drawback. So the least they can do is reducing one of them. AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1179	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:12:00 - [55] - Quote Squagga wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Squagga wrote: I'll agree to this. I want you at your best when I come for you I heard that you're looking for me... I'll offer you the same invitation I gave Checkmate. Whenever we see eachother in a pub, send a mail and meet up in a low traffic area. Ya really surprised me when ya kicked my ass. I wanna know if I learned anything from it Most definitely. Tell you what...I will create a private chat for us so we can q sync easier and fight each other, as well as the occasional squad up. I would like to pick your brain on that RR you use so well. Look for the chat invite sometime tonight. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1179	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:14:00 - [56] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: echo47 wrote: No the suit should lose the bonus. I would rather see a heat sink module that reduces heat build up, along with that a ROF increase module for CR and a module that increases range for the RR and AR. I would choose a heat sink module over a damage mod everytime with the scrambler rifle or lazor. I also do not like having to use a girly Amarr suit to get the bonus. Your HEAT SINK module only F's us AMARR over even MORE. Because of our LOW SLOT COUNT, all other races could use our SCR more effectively than we could .... Anything for an Amarr that involves Modules , is crap. we have the LEAST Slots ! (yeah, we dont want the new armor rep bonus. Its stupid CCP) ^ Pretty much ALL of this. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 303	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:19:00 - [57] - Quote The last thing the scrambler needs is any buffs. However the suit bonus is being taken away from the Amarr Assault right? Humm you should get something on another suit maybe? I dont know. I think the Scram, RR and CR are easily the 3 most powerful rifles right now.
Squagga The State Protectorate 139	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:21:00 - [58] - Quote I don't know why you guys are losing your bonus, or what else we're losing. I tend not to read any of these things until they actually come out, a defense mechanism I've developed with CCP. I don't know why we don't all get racial bonuses for using the guns of our race. It just makes sense. For instance I should get a bigger cod piece for using a RR Reloading, the silent killer.
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4368	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:24:00 - [59] - Quote Squagga wrote: I don't know why you guys are losing your bonus, or what else we're losing. I tend not to read any of these things until they actually come out, a defense mechanism I've developed with CCP. I don't know why we don't all get racial bonuses for using the guns of our race. It just makes sense. For instance I should get a bigger cod piece for using a RR Well its in the Assumption Amarr Assault WOULD loose the Bonus thats all. Tahts what im asking after all. Quote: ANON CERBERUS: The last thing the scrambler needs is any buffs. However the suit bonus is being taken away from the Amarr Assault right? Humm you should get something on another suit maybe? I dont know. I think the Scram, RR and CR are easily the 3 most powerful rifles right now. Well there are only 4 rifles XD For us Amarr loyalists, getting something on ANOTHER suit does not work too well..... AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
Squagga The State Protectorate 141	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:32:00 - [60] - Quote Oh .. it just dawned on me at this moment why you've been making all these threads about it. Didn't really make sense before. It's because you guys are going to lose that bonus. Well you know how I feel. I'll support you on the part I said I would Reloading, the silent killer.

KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4371	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:38:00 - [61] - Quote Squagga wrote: Oh .. it just dawned on me at this moment why you've been making all these threads about it. Didn't really make sense before. It's because you guys are going to lose that bonus. Well you know how I feel. I'll support you on the part I said I would Yeah. CCP thinks is the best of ideas to remove the 5% reduction in Heat buildup bonus for a miserable 5% armor repair module efficiency per level. JUNK. This is all i have to say. JUNK. Again, any bonus that involves Modules, unless it reaches a 100% efficiency or something, DOES NOT WORK on the Assault suit with LESS SLOTS. AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. 3012	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:40:00 - [62] - Quote I want to say no to give the Pistol a standing chance. I mean modded controllers with proto amarr are already a pretty big thorn. I honestly think that at level one, the scrambler rifle heat build up is fair. Rifle Changes: DPS, range, and damage
xSir Campsalotx G0DS AM0NG MEN 103	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:54:00 - [63] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: xSir Campsalotx wrote: If they take away suit bonus meh maybe idk perhaps. I do enjoy the Amarr and his weapon though hopefully they keep the bonus. On a side note Amarr assualt, viziam scrambler and modded controller is crazy OP and fun y'all should try it. Ima a true Amarr and have honor. I dont use Modded controllers. But ty anyways. Says the slave runner lol
Texs Red DUST University Ivy League 152	Posted - 2014.02.04 02:17:00 - [64] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: I want to say no to give the Pistol a standing chance. I mean modded controllers with proto amarr are already a pretty big thorn. I honestly think that at level one, the scrambler rifle heat build up is fair. I see more people abusing combat rifles than scrambler rifles. It's crazy when my rail rifle gets out DPS'ed at 70 meters from an advanced burst CR.
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4374	Posted - 2014.02.04 02:18:00 - [65] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: I want to say no to give the Pistol a standing chance. I mean modded controllers with proto amarr are already a pretty big thorn. I honestly think that at level one, the scrambler rifle heat build up is fair. Modded controller is a problem CCP needs to Fix. BUT ITS NOT a balancing issue. So because some dudes cant use the SCR without Modded controllers? regular DS3 players need to suffer? BULL. AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4375	Posted - 2014.02.04 02:19:00 - [66] - Quote xSir Campsalotx wrote: Says the slave runner lol they are not slaves, more like, new family. AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG


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