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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.03 22:29:00 -
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.....a NATURAL 10% or 15% HEAT REDUCTION as a buff? Considering the Amarr Assault will loose its 25% Laser weaponry HEAT SINK?
Discuss.
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Lea Silencio
0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1173
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Posted - 2014.02.03 22:29:00 -
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Yes. Yes. Yes.
+1 sir!
PurificationGäó
It's what I do.
Amarr Victor
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2461
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Posted - 2014.02.03 22:30:00 -
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No because poorly thought out balancing reasons on CCPs part
Im not drunk, the planet just happens to be especially wobbly today.
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Infine Sentinel
Better Hide R Die
644
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Posted - 2014.02.03 22:31:00 -
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No. No. No.
-1 Sir!
Pie.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
8787
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Posted - 2014.02.03 22:31:00 -
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YEEEESSSSS!!!!! 15%
I feel that the SCR overheats a bit too fast without the current Amarr bonus. I have Amarr assault currently at lv3, and I feel it is just right.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
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Posted - 2014.02.03 22:31:00 -
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We don't even know the bonuses that will be applied.
The scout bonuses changed completely from what was shown on SiSi
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6549
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Posted - 2014.02.03 22:31:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:.....a NATURAL 10% or 15% HEAT REDUCTION as a buff? Considering the Amarr Assault will loose its 25% Laser weaponry HEAT SINK?
Discuss.
No
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
8904
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Posted - 2014.02.03 22:32:00 -
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No. I say this as a proficiency 5 user who used it on a non-Amarr assault for a very long time.
Also, these changes aren't 'set in stone'. Although that doesn't mean much with CCP, wait and see.
ZATARA CARRIES US ALL
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
MAG Raven
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
280
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Posted - 2014.02.03 22:32:00 -
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Lol
NO NO NO
War never changes
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Squagga
The State Protectorate
124
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Posted - 2014.02.03 22:39:00 -
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I'll agree to this. I want you at your best when I come for you
Reloading, the silent killer.
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xSir Campsalotx
G0DS AM0NG MEN
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Posted - 2014.02.03 22:43:00 -
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Honestly the reason I never thought the scrambler was OP was because the Amarr assualt is required to really make the scrambler shine (suit/weapon synergy) if the scrambler inherently had the bonus it would be OP. |
KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.03 22:47:00 -
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xSir Campsalotx wrote:Honestly the reason I never thought the scrambler was OP was because the Amarr assualt is required to really make the scrambler shine (suit/weapon synergy) if the scrambler inherently had the bonus it would be OP.
but its not the same 25% the Amarr Assault has. Its only 10% or 15%.
IMO the amarr assault should just keep it.... But in the case the A.Assault looses it, the Suit/weapon synergy you talk about will be lost.... Where does that leave the SCR RIFLE.
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4358
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Posted - 2014.02.03 22:49:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:No. I say this as a proficiency 5 user who used it on a non-Amarr assault for a very long time.
Also, these changes aren't 'set in stone'. Although that doesn't mean much with CCP, wait and see.
We are talking about ALL scr rifle, not just damage modded,Prof 5, Viziam ones on proto suits
>..>
Mah fren.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
8904
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Posted - 2014.02.03 22:51:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:No. I say this as a proficiency 5 user who used it on a non-Amarr assault for a very long time.
Also, these changes aren't 'set in stone'. Although that doesn't mean much with CCP, wait and see. We are talking about ALL scr rifle, not just damage modded,Prof 5, Viziam ones on proto suits >..> Mah fren.
I often use the templar SCR without any damage mods on militia suits. So no, I still don't agree.
I think the bonus should stay on the suit. But applying even part of it inherently would be very, very powerful.
ZATARA CARRIES US ALL
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
MAG Raven
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.03 22:55:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:No. I say this as a proficiency 5 user who used it on a non-Amarr assault for a very long time.
Also, these changes aren't 'set in stone'. Although that doesn't mean much with CCP, wait and see. We are talking about ALL scr rifle, not just damage modded,Prof 5, Viziam ones on proto suits >..> Mah fren. I often use the templar SCR without any damage mods on militia suits. So no, I still don't agree. I think the bonus should stay on the suit. But applying even part of it inherently would be very, very powerful.
Well i agree with you, it SHOULD STAY ON THE SUIT. But if it doesnt then what? Its not like im proposing a 25% heat reduction buff, its only 10-15%
PLUS, you are a SKILLED SCR user, you need to think of the ''not so skilled'' players. Its like saying , oh yeah, ''Viktor and Lea silencio can go 30+ with a Templar SCR rifle in STD suits'' ITS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING XD
Thats the player that needs a nerf X)
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xSir Campsalotx
G0DS AM0NG MEN
102
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Posted - 2014.02.03 22:59:00 -
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If they take away suit bonus meh maybe idk perhaps. I do enjoy the Amarr and his weapon though hopefully they keep the bonus. On a side note Amarr assualt, viziam scrambler and modded controller is crazy OP and fun y'all should try it. |
Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution Public Disorder.
213
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:04:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:We don't even know the bonuses that will be applied.
The scout bonuses changed completely from what was shown on SiSi the amarr scout sux i want sisi cloak bonus+ stamina for amarr
Fatal Absolution bench proficiency lvl 5
why so serious zatara
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:05:00 -
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xSir Campsalotx wrote:If they take away suit bonus meh maybe idk perhaps. I do enjoy the Amarr and his weapon though hopefully they keep the bonus. On a side note Amarr assualt, viziam scrambler and modded controller is crazy OP and fun y'all should try it.
Ima a true Amarr and have honor. I dont use Modded controllers.
But ty anyways.
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
991
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:08:00 -
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Just keep the bonus.
An innate bonus would make it so the ScR would be as effective on any and all suits, keeping the bonus on the Amarr Assault means that you have to skill into the Assault ak.0 for the ScR to be as effective as it can be; which is what greatly affected my decision in choosing the suit
There is no point in using the assault ak.0 if other suits can use the ScR as effectively as the ak.0 can
The Sinwarden
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:09:00 -
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No, because it is relevant mechanic. It was balanced before, the fact that suit no longer unbalances it, is not reason to permanently unbalance it.
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I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:14:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:No, because it is relevant mechanic. It was balanced before, the fact that suit no longer unbalances it, is not reason to permanently unbalance it.
The suit... doesn't unbalance it?
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4361
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:16:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:No, because it is relevant mechanic. It was balanced before, the fact that suit no longer unbalances it, is not reason to permanently unbalance it.
WHAT? The Amarr suit does not unbalance it. It barely makes it 100% Functional. (ANd after level 4+) AND STILL, all rifles can unload the WHOLE CLIP on (for example) a HEAVY with 1400+ EHP and kill him while the SCR rifle CANT. STILL YOu cant kill 3-4 guys in a row with the SCR rifle , LIKE ALL THE OTHER RIFLES CAN. And STILL have the insane Fitting requirements, crappy sight and overheat mechanic.
What is this unbalance you are talking about? the ONLY good feature the SCR has? the Charged shot?
You want balance? I want the Six Kin and Boundless CR to have 20PG Fitting requirement. NOW THATS balance...
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
1470
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:19:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:No, because it is relevant mechanic. It was balanced before, the fact that suit no longer unbalances it, is not reason to permanently unbalance it. WHAT? The Amarr suit does not unbalance it. It barely makes it 100% Functional. (ANd after level 4+) AND STILL, all rifles can unload the WHOLE CLIP on (for example) a HEAVY with 1400+ EHP and kill him while the SCR rifle CANT. STILL YOu cant kill 3-4 guys in a row with the SCR rifle , LIKE ALL THE OTHER RIFLES CAN.And STILL have the insane Fitting requirements, crappy sight and overheat mechanic. What is this unbalance you are talking about? the ONLY good feature the SCR has? the Charged shot? You want balance? I want the Six Kin and Boundless CR to have 20PG Fitting requirement.... I want the RR to have Overheat mechanic.... NOW THATS balance...
Basically this.
lol8PG on CR.
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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Lea Silencio
0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1176
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:25:00 -
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Squagga wrote:I'll agree to this. I want you at your best when I come for you
I heard that you're looking for me...
PurificationGäó
It's what I do.
Amarr Victor
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Squagga
The State Protectorate
128
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:25:00 -
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I'm glad you lowered your request. Earlier you were saying 50%? One thing I think though is it should only get two of those charged shots, reguardless of any buff. In the hands of a few of you it would just be too dangerous. But the single shots on the charge variant should be higher. I used this as my one of my mains during the war. It's too few shots when you're outnumbered and cornered. And then the fukkin thing kills you while you're defending yourself
Reloading, the silent killer.
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6553
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:25:00 -
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Lea Silencio wrote:Squagga wrote:I'll agree to this. I want you at your best when I come for you I heard that you're looking for me...
**** you just pissed off one of the two best ScR users in the game......
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:26:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:.....a NATURAL 10% or 15% HEAT REDUCTION as a buff? Considering the Amarr Assault will loose its 25% Laser weaponry HEAT SINK?
Discuss.
i agree the Amarr assault SHOULD KEEP THE BONUS, this is in the case IT GETS REMOVED. please stop saying: ''i think the AA should keep the bonus''. WELL OF COURSE, but thats not what im asking here...... read my sig bro
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
500
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:27:00 -
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I'm not really fussed one way or the other. The main reason I specced into Amarr Assault (level 3) was for the SCR bonus, and I took it to level 5 to buff my Templar suit once it was released. Since then, I have taken to using the CR most of the time, so I guess it doesn't really make a difference to me. Having the SCR be less deadly is not necessarily a bad thing since it is (IMO) as crazily lethal (on any suit) as the RR.
Gÿó +¦ +¦ Gÿó
Trained Skills
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4363
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:27:00 -
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Squagga wrote:I'm glad you lowered your request. Earlier you were saying 50%? One thing I think though is it should only get two of those charged shots, reguardless of any buff. In the hands of a few of you it would just be too dangerous. But the single shots on the charge variant should be higher. I used this as my one of my mains during the war. It's too few shots when you're outnumbered and cornered. And then the fukkin thing kills you while you're defending yourself
Well the 50% Heat buid-up reduction ON CHARGED SHOTS , but heat increase in quick shots didnt please the community very much.so im trying a different angle here .... XD
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:29:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:.....a NATURAL 10% or 15% HEAT REDUCTION as a buff? Considering the Amarr Assault will loose its 25% Laser weaponry HEAT SINK?
Discuss.
i agree the Amarr assault SHOULD KEEP THE BONUS, this is in the case IT GETS REMOVED. please stop saying: ''i think the AA should keep the bonus''. WELL OF COURSE, but thats not what im asking here...... read my sig bro
I already likes that S/**** a like a while ago, what else do you want from me.?
TELL ME!?
D':
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