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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:31:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:.....a NATURAL 10% or 15% HEAT REDUCTION as a buff? Considering the Amarr Assault will loose its 25% Laser weaponry HEAT SINK?
Discuss.
i agree the Amarr assault SHOULD KEEP THE BONUS, this is in the case IT GETS REMOVED. please stop saying: ''i think the AA should keep the bonus''. WELL OF COURSE, but thats not what im asking here...... read my sig bro I already likes that S/**** a like a while ago, what else do you want from me.?
TELL ME!? D':
Oh lol sorry i forgot
but a bump would be nice. I also updated the part about ScR and CR's so that they switch scopes, cause that makes more sense.
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Squagga
The State Protectorate
128
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:34:00 -
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Lea Silencio wrote:Squagga wrote:I'll agree to this. I want you at your best when I come for you I heard that you're looking for me...
I'll offer you the same invitation I gave Checkmate. Whenever we see eachother in a pub, send a mail and meet up in a low traffic area. Ya really surprised me when ya kicked my ass. I wanna know if I learned anything from it
Reloading, the silent killer.
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Squagga
The State Protectorate
128
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:36:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Squagga wrote:I'm glad you lowered your request. Earlier you were saying 50%? One thing I think though is it should only get two of those charged shots, reguardless of any buff. In the hands of a few of you it would just be too dangerous. But the single shots on the charge variant should be higher. I used this as my one of my mains during the war. It's too few shots when you're outnumbered and cornered. And then the fukkin thing kills you while you're defending yourself Well the 50% Heat buid-up reduction ON CHARGED SHOTS , but heat increase in quick shots didnt please the community very much.so im trying a different angle here .... XD
Oh no I am not signing up for that. No more charged shots for you! You little fukkers got me on edge every time I hear that noise. Honestly though I like that it does that to me
Reloading, the silent killer.
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4364
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:40:00 -
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Squagga wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Squagga wrote:I'm glad you lowered your request. Earlier you were saying 50%? One thing I think though is it should only get two of those charged shots, reguardless of any buff. In the hands of a few of you it would just be too dangerous. But the single shots on the charge variant should be higher. I used this as my one of my mains during the war. It's too few shots when you're outnumbered and cornered. And then the fukkin thing kills you while you're defending yourself Well the 50% Heat buid-up reduction ON CHARGED SHOTS , but heat increase in quick shots didnt please the community very much.so im trying a different angle here .... XD Oh no I am not signing up for that. No more charged shots for you! You little fukkers got me on edge every time I hear that noise. Honestly though I like that it does that to me
D:
But, charged shot is the only true reason to USE the SCR Rifle D':
Cant you see a STD Combat Rifle hits harder than a VIZIAM SCR RIFLE per R1 button press?
(STD CR : 32 x 3 = 96 per R1 Press / / Viziam SCR RIFLE : 79.5 per R1 Press // CR has higher RoF and No Overheat) If you limit the Chargted shot , there really is no reason to use a SCR over a CR IMO u.u
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
813
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:41:00 -
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No. The Amarr should just stay with the heat reducing bonus.
The weapon itself is fine as it is. |
Ama Jin Tath
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:42:00 -
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Did you know Amarr backwards is 'Rrama'?
Quite interesting, huh?
:3
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Denn Maell
PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives
143
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:43:00 -
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Please no! The heat up is fun and challenging in itself. I love a weapon that requires skill to use-OR IT WILL KILL YOU!
Honestly, this weapon is fun if you put it in the hands of a scout. If anything increasing the damage it does in feedback would make me switch this weapon to my primary
The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field:
One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
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Squagga
The State Protectorate
129
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:45:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Lea Silencio wrote:Squagga wrote:I'll agree to this. I want you at your best when I come for you I heard that you're looking for me... **** you just pissed off one of the two best ScR users in the game......
I would LOVE to test your skills. Same offer I extended the other Kameiras
Reloading, the silent killer.
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Squagga
The State Protectorate
129
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:48:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Squagga wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Squagga wrote:I'm glad you lowered your request. Earlier you were saying 50%? One thing I think though is it should only get two of those charged shots, reguardless of any buff. In the hands of a few of you it would just be too dangerous. But the single shots on the charge variant should be higher. I used this as my one of my mains during the war. It's too few shots when you're outnumbered and cornered. And then the fukkin thing kills you while you're defending yourself Well the 50% Heat buid-up reduction ON CHARGED SHOTS , but heat increase in quick shots didnt please the community very much.so im trying a different angle here .... XD Oh no I am not signing up for that. No more charged shots for you! You little fukkers got me on edge every time I hear that noise. Honestly though I like that it does that to me D: But, charged shot is the only true reason to USE the SCR Rifle D':Cant you see a STD Combat Rifle hits harder than a VIZIAM SCR RIFLE per R1 button press? ( STD CR : 32 x 3 = 96 per R1 Press / / Viziam SCR RIFLE : 79.5 per R1 Press // CR has higher RoF and No Overheat) If you limit the Chargted shot , there really is no reason to use a SCR over a CR IMO u.u
I'll give you guys respect for being able to use that charged shot in the middle of it all but no. I just don't agree that you need more than those two
Reloading, the silent killer.
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4364
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:51:00 -
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Squagga wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Squagga wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Squagga wrote:I'm glad you lowered your request. Earlier you were saying 50%? One thing I think though is it should only get two of those charged shots, reguardless of any buff. In the hands of a few of you it would just be too dangerous. But the single shots on the charge variant should be higher. I used this as my one of my mains during the war. It's too few shots when you're outnumbered and cornered. And then the fukkin thing kills you while you're defending yourself Well the 50% Heat buid-up reduction ON CHARGED SHOTS , but heat increase in quick shots didnt please the community very much.so im trying a different angle here .... XD Oh no I am not signing up for that. No more charged shots for you! You little fukkers got me on edge every time I hear that noise. Honestly though I like that it does that to me D: But, charged shot is the only true reason to USE the SCR Rifle D':Cant you see a STD Combat Rifle hits harder than a VIZIAM SCR RIFLE per R1 button press? ( STD CR : 32 x 3 = 96 per R1 Press / / Viziam SCR RIFLE : 79.5 per R1 Press // CR has higher RoF and No Overheat) If you limit the Chargted shot , there really is no reason to use a SCR over a CR IMO u.u I'll give you guys respect for being able to use that charged shot in the middle of it all but no. I just don't agree that you need more than those two
Ok... u.u
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
236
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:55:00 -
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Infine Sentinel wrote:No. No. No.
-1 Sir!
Couldn't like this fast enough. |
Texs Red
DUST University Ivy League
149
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:56:00 -
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Please stop with the bold, it's just irritating to look at.
Personally I think the Amarr assault should keep it's bonus, it's a good application of a bonus to a suit that creates synergy with it's intended weapons. To be honest, all other assault suits should have different bonuses other than straight RoF because it creates very bland, uncreative fits.
Amarr: 5% per level reduction to heat build of laser weapons Caldari: 5% per level increase to range of hybrid weapons Gallente: 5% per level reduction to hybrid weapon hipfire spread Minmatar: 5% per level increase to clip and max ammo of projectile weapons
*BAM* You now have four bonuses that helps each race do what it's supposed to do best while creating variety between the races instead of everybody just getting an increase to RoF. Boring! |
KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4365
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Posted - 2014.02.04 00:04:00 -
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Texs Red wrote:Please stop with the bold, it's just irritating to look at.
Personally I think the Amarr assault should keep it's bonus, it's a good application of a bonus to a suit that creates synergy with it's intended weapons. To be honest, all other assault suits should have different bonuses other than straight RoF because it creates very bland, uncreative fits.
Amarr: 5% per level reduction to heat build of laser weapons Caldari: 5% per level increase to range of hybrid weapons Gallente: 5% per level reduction to hybrid weapon hipfire spread Minmatar: 5% per level increase to clip and max ammo of projectile weapons
*BAM* You now have four bonuses that helps each race do what it's supposed to do best while creating variety between the races instead of everybody just getting an increase to RoF. Boring!
1- I cant stop with the bold, i like it , i dont care what people think of it, i need it to find my posts faster. 2-Thats what i even SAY in the OP. Tht the AA needs to keep its bonus, IN THE CASE IT LOOSES IT, should the weapon be buffed? thats the question. 3- I like your bonuses , +1.
Overally , you didnt answer my question: If the A.Assault looses its bonus, should the SCR rifle get a 10 or 15% Heat buildup reduction as a bonus?
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
814
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Posted - 2014.02.04 00:06:00 -
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Texs Red wrote:Please stop with the bold, it's just irritating to look at.
Personally I think the Amarr assault should keep it's bonus, it's a good application of a bonus to a suit that creates synergy with it's intended weapons. To be honest, all other assault suits should have different bonuses other than straight RoF because it creates very bland, uncreative fits.
Amarr: 5% per level reduction to heat build of laser weapons Caldari: 5% per level increase to range of hybrid weapons Gallente: 5% per level reduction to hybrid weapon hipfire spread Minmatar: 5% per level increase to clip and max ammo of projectile weapons
*BAM* You now have four bonuses that helps each race do what it's supposed to do best while creating variety between the races instead of everybody just getting an increase to RoF. Boring! Prefer the RoF bonus on the Gallente to make the Plasma Rifle the best assault variant. |
Texs Red
DUST University Ivy League
152
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Posted - 2014.02.04 00:12:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote: Overally , you didnt answer my question: If the A.Assault looses its bonus, should the SCR rifle get a 10 or 15% Heat buildup reduction as a bonus?
The scrambler rifle (I think) was engineered with it cooperating with the amarr assault bonus to make it reach it's full potential but preventing it from becoming OP. If the amarr assault bonus is removed and nothing else offers a reduction to heat buildup with laser weapons then I think it needs to be adjusted slightly to improve performance, especially when it and the plasma rifle (assault rifle) are being largely over shadowed by the CR and RR.
Basically the scrambler rifle is loosing performance if it looses the current amarr assault bonus so it deserves a boost in the form of reduced heat buildup. |
KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4366
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Posted - 2014.02.04 00:13:00 -
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Texs Red wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote: Overally , you didnt answer my question: If the A.Assault looses its bonus, should the SCR rifle get a 10 or 15% Heat buildup reduction as a bonus?
The scrambler rifle (I think) was engineered with it cooperating with the amarr assault bonus to make it reach it's full potential but preventing it from becoming OP. If the amarr assault bonus is removed and nothing else offers a reduction to heat buildup with laser weapons then I think it needs to be adjusted slightly to improve performance, especially when it and the plasma rifle (assault rifle) are being largely over shadowed by the CR and RR. Basically the scrambler rifle is loosing performance if it looses the current amarr assault bonus so it deserves a boost in the form of reduced heat buildup.
Couldnt have said it myself better.
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Texs Red
DUST University Ivy League
152
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Posted - 2014.02.04 00:14:00 -
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Joel II X wrote: Prefer the RoF bonus on the Gallente to make the Plasma Rifle the best assault variant.
The Gallente are supposed to be the best CQC fighters, so give them bonuses that focus on that (hipfire spread). If you want crazy RoF then go Minmatar. |
KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4366
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Posted - 2014.02.04 00:25:00 -
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Texs Red wrote:Joel II X wrote: Prefer the RoF bonus on the Gallente to make the Plasma Rifle the best assault variant.
The Gallente are supposed to be the best CQC fighters, so give them bonuses that focus on that (hipfire spread). If you want crazy RoF then go Minmatar.
Im gonna be honest this whole thread is a little biased, since i have Lv4 Amarr assault and still manage to overheat my SCR RIFLES pretty often (i abuse the Charged shot , but just a little) im scared that without the bonus i might be useless.. :|
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution Public Disorder.
1523
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Posted - 2014.02.04 00:27:00 -
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Don't miss...
Caldari Tanker/Minmatar Assault
Forum warrior lvl 1
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4366
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Posted - 2014.02.04 00:29:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Don't miss...
Well i dont.
But the thing is, SOMETIMES, i have no other option than face 2 or more enemies at the same time....Even without a miss....
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echo47
Minmatar Republic
189
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Posted - 2014.02.04 00:35:00 -
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No the suit should lose the bonus. I would rather see a heat sink module that reduces heat build up, along with that a ROF increase module for CR and a module that increases range for the RR and AR. I would choose a heat sink module over a damage mod everytime with the scrambler rifle or lazor. I also do not like having to use a girly Amarr suit to get the bonus.
I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
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Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
671
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Posted - 2014.02.04 00:36:00 -
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The SCR has a drawback, and you want to remove the drawback...why? |
KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4366
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Posted - 2014.02.04 00:44:00 -
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echo47 wrote:No the suit should lose the bonus. I would rather see a heat sink module that reduces heat build up, along with that a ROF increase module for CR and a module that increases range for the RR and AR. I would choose a heat sink module over a damage mod everytime with the scrambler rifle or lazor. I also do not like having to use a girly Amarr suit to get the bonus.
Your HEAT SINK module only F's us AMARR over even MORE. Because of our LOW SLOT COUNT, all other races could use our SCR more effectively than we could .... Anything for an Amarr that involves Modules , is crap. we have the LEAST Slots ! (yeah, we dont want the new armor rep bonus. Its stupid CCP)
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4366
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Posted - 2014.02.04 00:45:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:The SCR has a drawback, and you want to remove the drawback...why?
Because the SCR has more than ONE Drawback.
So the least they can do is reducing one of them.
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Lea Silencio
0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1179
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:12:00 -
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Squagga wrote:Lea Silencio wrote:Squagga wrote:I'll agree to this. I want you at your best when I come for you I heard that you're looking for me... I'll offer you the same invitation I gave Checkmate. Whenever we see eachother in a pub, send a mail and meet up in a low traffic area. Ya really surprised me when ya kicked my ass. I wanna know if I learned anything from it
Most definitely. Tell you what...I will create a private chat for us so we can q sync easier and fight each other, as well as the occasional squad up. I would like to pick your brain on that RR you use so well.
Look for the chat invite sometime tonight.
PurificationGäó
It's what I do.
Amarr Victor
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Lea Silencio
0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1179
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:14:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:echo47 wrote:No the suit should lose the bonus. I would rather see a heat sink module that reduces heat build up, along with that a ROF increase module for CR and a module that increases range for the RR and AR. I would choose a heat sink module over a damage mod everytime with the scrambler rifle or lazor. I also do not like having to use a girly Amarr suit to get the bonus. Your HEAT SINK module only F's us AMARR over even MORE.Because of our LOW SLOT COUNT, all other races could use our SCR more effectively than we could .... Anything for an Amarr that involves Modules , is crap. we have the LEAST Slots ! (yeah, we dont want the new armor rep bonus. Its stupid CCP)
^ Pretty much ALL of this.
PurificationGäó
It's what I do.
Amarr Victor
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
303
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:19:00 -
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The last thing the scrambler needs is any buffs. However the suit bonus is being taken away from the Amarr Assault right? Humm you should get something on another suit maybe? I dont know.
I think the Scram, RR and CR are easily the 3 most powerful rifles right now. |
Squagga
The State Protectorate
139
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:21:00 -
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I don't know why you guys are losing your bonus, or what else we're losing. I tend not to read any of these things until they actually come out, a defense mechanism I've developed with CCP. I don't know why we don't all get racial bonuses for using the guns of our race. It just makes sense. For instance I should get a bigger cod piece for using a RR
Reloading, the silent killer.
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4368
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:24:00 -
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Squagga wrote:I don't know why you guys are losing your bonus, or what else we're losing. I tend not to read any of these things until they actually come out, a defense mechanism I've developed with CCP. I don't know why we don't all get racial bonuses for using the guns of our race. It just makes sense. For instance I should get a bigger cod piece for using a RR
Well its in the Assumption Amarr Assault WOULD loose the Bonus thats all. Tahts what im asking after all.
Quote:ANON CERBERUS: The last thing the scrambler needs is any buffs. However the suit bonus is being taken away from the Amarr Assault right? Humm you should get something on another suit maybe? I dont know.
I think the Scram, RR and CR are easily the 3 most powerful rifles right now.
Well there are only 4 rifles XD
For us Amarr loyalists, getting something on ANOTHER suit does not work too well.....
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Squagga
The State Protectorate
141
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:32:00 -
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Oh .. it just dawned on me at this moment why you've been making all these threads about it. Didn't really make sense before. It's because you guys are going to lose that bonus. Well you know how I feel. I'll support you on the part I said I would
Reloading, the silent killer.
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