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Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1703	Posted - 2014.01.27 02:32:00 - [1] - Quote Who thinks Rail Rifles and Combat Rifles aren't OP. I want to know who thinks they don't need to be nerfed. Come on! Don't be shy ... Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3994	Posted - 2014.01.27 02:34:00 - [2] - Quote ALL the rifles need to be nerfed. 4-600 DPS? Really? Next On To-Do List: Particle Cannons Current Status: AFK Current Task: Going to get more cookies. I'm not even joking.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 4295	Posted - 2014.01.27 02:41:00 - [3] - Quote Everything that ends with "Rifle" is OP (except for maybe - maybe - the sniper rifle (and obviously the Laser Rifle)). Winner of at least 11 King ThunderBolt hate videos :D
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1705	Posted - 2014.01.27 02:43:00 - [4] - Quote I know you guys think they're OP... I want to find the people that think they aren't OP. Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 4295	Posted - 2014.01.27 02:44:00 - [5] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: I know you guys think they're OP... I want to find the people that think they aren't OP. I wish I could think that :'\| Winner of at least 11 King ThunderBolt hate videos :D
Marad''er Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 667	Posted - 2014.01.27 02:44:00 - [6] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: I know you guys think they're OP... I want to find the people that think they aren't OP. Good luck :( GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 4 \| pâÅpéñpâápü»tºüpü«µëôµÆâpéÆF¦ápüúpüªpüäpéï \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 1710	Posted - 2014.01.27 02:44:00 - [7] - Quote They're all OP, that's without argument. The real question is if any are unbalanced against each other. IMO the RR is a little more OP than the rest, but that's only my opinion. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor! Forum Warrior lv.1
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 4048	Posted - 2014.01.27 02:46:00 - [8] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Who thinks Rail Rifles and Combat Rifles aren't OP. I want to know who thinks they don't need to be nerfed. Come on! Don't be shy ... I think they are NOT OP. They are very powerful but balanced between themselves (rifles i mean) Its ALL the other weapons that are pretty sucky.... GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Vile Heathen Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 907	Posted - 2014.01.27 02:46:00 - [9] - Quote I think all the rifles are fine, except the laser rifle which is way underpowered. Though I will say I think the AR deserves a nice RDS to make it easier to use.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1705	Posted - 2014.01.27 02:48:00 - [10] - Quote Vile Heathen wrote: I think all the rifles are fine, except the laser rifle which is way underpowered. Though I will say I think the AR deserves a nice RDS to make it easier to use. Your opinion is wrong. Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire

Anonn Viksu'ad DUST University Ivy League 0	Posted - 2014.01.27 02:49:00 - [11] - Quote That rail rifle, man... shoulda saved my sp. "Sin after sin I have endured, but the wounds I bare are the wounds of love." -High Priest, Lord Halford
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1246	Posted - 2014.01.27 02:50:00 - [12] - Quote that is a loaded question. "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout. CLOSED BETA VET
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1705	Posted - 2014.01.27 02:52:00 - [13] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: that is a loaded question. I know. That's the way I made it... Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3633	Posted - 2014.01.27 03:25:00 - [14] - Quote I don't think they are OP under normal circumstances. Though, the Combat Rifle and Rail Rifle are very OP when there is a lot of lag. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 772	Posted - 2014.01.27 03:41:00 - [15] - Quote I think there are balance features of each rifle. Depending on which I'm engaged against I know the best way to turn it to my advantage. I will say though that they do need to make these inherent weaknesses more profound as its far to easy to compensate for them. "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Slightly-Mental Planetary Research and Investments Ash's to Ash's 69	Posted - 2014.01.27 05:26:00 - [16] - Quote there not op until you fit damage mods, but same can be said to AR's and combat
Jackof All-Trades The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 389	Posted - 2014.01.27 07:37:00 - [17] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Who thinks Rail Rifles and Combat Rifles aren't OP. I want to know who thinks they don't need to be nerfed. Come on! Don't be shy ... I think they are NOT OP. They are very powerful but balanced between themselves (rifles i mean) Its ALL the other weapons that are pretty sucky.... Same thing, Checkmate "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente
m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 291	Posted - 2014.01.27 07:43:00 - [18] - Quote Jackof All-Trades wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Who thinks Rail Rifles and Combat Rifles aren't OP. I want to know who thinks they don't need to be nerfed. Come on! Don't be shy ... I think they are NOT OP. They are very powerful but balanced between themselves (rifles i mean) Its ALL the other weapons that are pretty sucky.... Same thing, Checkmate Agreed. I don't think any of them are OP. Use them properly and you will realize this.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen 457	Posted - 2014.01.27 07:46:00 - [19] - Quote The combat rifle was made perfect for scouts, the rail seems to be more of a hang back and support, more fitting for a logi, cause logis are awesome at support, which is why I disagree with the removal of their weapons slot. Freelance Psycho I don't mind heavies with light weapons cause I moonwalk around them in slow motion with my shotty
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 356	Posted - 2014.01.27 07:49:00 - [20] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Who thinks Rail Rifles and Combat Rifles aren't OP. I want to know who thinks they don't need to be nerfed. Come on! Don't be shy ... They're not OP. AR and SCR are OP. RR and CR are damn what da hell ******* OMFG OP. Learn the diffrence.

Gambit Ace SAM-MIK 5	Posted - 2014.01.27 07:54:00 - [21] - Quote I think they are perfect the way they are. They give non-proto users a chance to stand against those proto-stompers. I love them both! They don't need any nerfing whatsoever! By DUST we shall become when we lie on the Battlefield.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1709	Posted - 2014.01.27 08:40:00 - [22] - Quote Gambit Ace wrote: I think they are perfect the way they are. They give non-proto users a chance to stand against those proto-stompers. I love them both! They don't need any nerfing whatsoever! They contribute more to protostomping than they prevent it. They have no Militia Variants, therefore new players often have no idea these weapons even exist until they get slaughtered after leaving the Academy. They are the two of the most powerful weapons in this game currently, but they are far to easy to use to afford the amount of power they give people. This has been a problem in every shooter for decades. There are always weapons that are easy to use, and require minimal skill input from their users, but perform at a level that exceeds the user, essentially doing the work for the user. They don't ask more out of the user, but instead give to the user without price. This is broken, as such these weapons are broken. They need to be fixed. This has been the case with almost everything in this game that has been considered to be OP. The items themselves weren't too strong, they just didnt have a price for that strength. The opposite is true for the weapons that are commonly viewed as underpowered. Look at the Plasma Cannon. Look at the Laser Rifle. Look at the Nova Knives. These weapons are among the most difficult weapons to use in the game, but their power is dwarfed by these rifles. This is wrong, and horrendously unbalanced. In short, they are noob weapons, with the capabilities of high skill weapons. We can either reduce their capabilities to be more inline with their skill level, or we can increase their skill level to be more in line with their capabilities. Only bad players see both of these options as nerfs... Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness 1063	Posted - 2014.01.27 08:51:00 - [23] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Who thinks Rail Rifles and Combat Rifles aren't OP. I want to know who thinks they don't need to be nerfed. Come on! Don't be shy ... I think they are NOT OP. They are very powerful but balanced between themselves (rifles i mean) Its ALL the other weapons that are pretty sucky.... This^^^ The only weapon that is out of balance is the AR. It sucks now. Fix the AR but increasing the RoF to 800 r/m. TTK is already getting a fix in 1.8. The proficiency skill will only be applied to damage vs. either shields or armor, based on what the weapon is supposed to be proficient against. Stop trying to nerf every thing damn it! {:)}{3GÇó>
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD Public Disorder. 477	Posted - 2014.01.27 08:52:00 - [24] - Quote They aren't OP because everyone has equal opportunity to skill into them and use them. I use my RR for when I'm trying to get kills, CR when logi'ing and AR when I use officer weapons Director of ZionTCD Amarr Logi \| Amarr Sentinel \| Amarr Scout (SoonGäó) TDBS
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen 458	Posted - 2014.01.27 08:53:00 - [25] - Quote What do you mean AR sucks? The GEK is the sweetspot for almost all rifles accept for CR. I must be missing something... Freelance Psycho I don't mind heavies with light weapons cause I moonwalk around them in slow motion with my shotty
TheDarthMa94 The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 77	Posted - 2014.01.27 08:54:00 - [26] - Quote In my opinion, all of the rifles aren't OP. But if it use by a skillful player it can be a really deadly powerful rifle. To those who think there OP, its just you guys. Real men won't complain, they keep improve themselves... Sith Apprentice and Director of NAO "What skills? Its the connection bro!"
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness 1063	Posted - 2014.01.27 08:54:00 - [27] - Quote No mention of the scrambler rifle? It is just as good if not better than either of these weapons. {:)}{3GÇó>
Rorick Crawely SMARTCREW Canis Eliminatus Operatives 10	Posted - 2014.01.27 08:57:00 - [28] - Quote I don't think they're OP tbh. I think every gun excels at it's intended role (Except for SMG's now that CR's are here). A CR is supposed to dominate short to mid range, it's supposed to have no equal and vice versa for the RR. I think CCP have achieves a really great balance with the weapons currently (Although I would love a slight buff to SMG's ). In my experience though, I get killed by AR's more often than by any other gun.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1709	Posted - 2014.01.27 09:15:00 - [29] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Who thinks Rail Rifles and Combat Rifles aren't OP. I want to know who thinks they don't need to be nerfed. Come on! Don't be shy ... I think they are NOT OP. They are very powerful but balanced between themselves (rifles i mean) Its ALL the other weapons that are pretty sucky.... This^^^ The only weapon that is out of balance is the AR. It sucks now. Fix the AR but increasing the RoF to 800 r/m. TTK is already getting a fix in 1.8. The proficiency skill will only be applied to damage vs. either shields or armor, based on what the weapon is supposed to be proficient against. Stop trying to nerf every thing damn it! Even the AR is a problem weapon. Also, I am not trying to nerf everything. As a matter of fact I am not trying to nerf anything. I would like these weapons to keep their killing power, I just want them to be harder to use. Example. Rail Rifle: Tighten its hipfire accuracy even more, then make aim assist not work for it at ranges under 40m. I have not nerfed a thing about it, in fact it's technically a buff. However, it is now more difficult to use. ^If you see that as a nerf, you are a sht player that relies on an easy to use weapon rather than your actual skill^ Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire*
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1709	Posted - 2014.01.27 09:25:00 - [30] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: They aren't OP because everyone has equal opportunity to skill into them and use them. I use my RR for when I'm trying to get kills, CR when logi'ing and AR when I use officer weapons That is horrid logic. If there was a rifle that did 45 damage per shot, fired 1200 rounds per minute at a fully automatic setting, and had an optimal range of 95m; you wouldn't consider that to be unbalanced? Because everonr has access to it? It is this kind of thinking that ruins diversity. I use the absolute abundance of Rail Rifles and Combat Rifles as my evidence to support my statement. I seriously hope you aren't serious... Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire



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