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Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 538	Posted - 2014.01.25 16:24:00 - [31] - Quote RR need an accuracy buff at range so more than 3 shots hit when looking down the scope
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 509	Posted - 2014.01.25 16:26:00 - [32] - Quote Rails are about high alpha, low dps. So increase damage, perhaps 85-100 per shot And have it spool up between shots. Now its a high damage, low dps weapon, perfect for long range engagements, but suffers in CQC since other weapons have higher dps.
Mortedeamor 1284	Posted - 2014.01.25 16:28:00 - [33] - Quote Yoma Carrim wrote: xSir Campsalotx wrote: I hope that means they're lowering the rof and or increasing the charge time. Hint hint CCP You do know that's a spoof quote right? doesnt really matter if its a spoof qoute its something ccp would do given the situation oh rr is op lets buf it total cco move jihhhaders = av lvl 0 swarm master = av lvl 99+
Scout Registry Nos Nothi 1002	Posted - 2014.01.25 16:33:00 - [34] - Quote From what I've observed: At close range, the CR is as good as the RR. At close range, the AR is much better than an RR. At close range, the ScR is vastly superior to the RR. At close range, all four Fine Rifles outperform the Shotgun. So quit btchin'. At long range, all four Fine Rifles outperform the Laser. So quit btchin'. Methinks EZ Mode may miss the ole' Duvolle 0-99 meter superiority.
Mortedeamor 1284	Posted - 2014.01.25 16:35:00 - [35] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Rails are about high alpha, low dps. So increase damage, perhaps 85-100 per shot And have it spool up between shots. Now its a high damage, low dps weapon, perfect for long range engagements, but suffers in CQC since other weapons have higher dps. 85-100 per shot where did you draw those numbers because they did not come from the other tactical variants..rr should NOT have HIGHER DMG than the tac ar or the scrambler rifle maybe 85 ..certainly not 100 jihhhaders = av lvl 0 swarm master = av lvl 99+
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 728	Posted - 2014.01.25 16:39:00 - [36] - Quote I don't have any skills into the rail rifle but i have tried the aurum standard variant and i think it isn't bad.... *Assassination is my thing.*
daadfhjhgfg Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.01.25 16:58:00 - [37] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: High alpha and high range weapons must never, ever, EVER have anything near CQC weapons DPS. It's just broken, completely and stupidly broken. Just a reminder. While I agree they shouldn't have high DPS, they still should have high damage to offset the low rate of fire. Forge gun and sniper rifles are prime examples, though SR's could use a buff to damage to avoid being completely useless in PC as they are currently. Rail Rifle users can defend the home point better against multiple targets as opposed to the one or two shots, hit or miss, and no kill snipers get to make a difference. I think SR should be able to two shot most protos (minus heavies) and one shot most ADV or lower (minus HP suits). Head shots on all but high HP heavies should work the same way. It's supposed to be one of the most powerful rifles in the game, after all.
Heimdallr69 Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1467	Posted - 2014.01.25 17:14:00 - [38] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: High alpha and high range weapons must never, ever, EVER have anything near CQC weapons DPS. It's just broken, completely and stupidly broken. Just a reminder. So what do you want a nerf In DMG or hip fire? If DMG then the rof should be nerfed of the combat rifle. It's range is to much for its rof. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 890	Posted - 2014.01.25 17:17:00 - [39] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: High alpha and high range weapons must never, ever, EVER have anything near CQC weapons DPS. It's just broken, completely and stupidly broken. Just a reminder. So what do you want a nerf In DMG or hip fire? If DMG then the rof should be nerfed of the combat rifle. It's range is to much for its rof. +1
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 292	Posted - 2014.01.25 17:33:00 - [40] - Quote whats everyone's thoughts on the ARR? not saying its op or whenever, just curious what everybody thinks about it.

Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 3146	Posted - 2014.01.25 17:45:00 - [41] - Quote RR is fine, it's lower ROF makes it easier to track targets in CQC (the reticle on the HUD increases slower than that of an AR) so it is more accurate for longer. I find the AR better at CQC than the rail, with AR it's just point and shoot, with rail you gotta aim at the upper torso and let the kick from the gunncarrynyour aim up to the targets head. Ps. Doesn't rail rifle have a Dmg bonus to armour and with everyone stacking armour, doesn't it make sense for an armour Dmg oriented weapon to destroy people who stack armour? Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // D-Uni instructor A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando? Forum warrior 3
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2231	Posted - 2014.01.25 17:46:00 - [42] - Quote New weapons are OP? That has NEVER happened before. Surely they won't double nerf them into complete uselessness. They would NEVER do that. Putting Proficiency 5 into them on day 1 was a great idea. Natalie Portman.
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 646	Posted - 2014.01.25 18:06:00 - [43] - Quote Said it before, the RR shouldn't be out DPSing long-range weapons like the MD and Laser, while losing nothing in CQC compared to the other 2.
Heimdallr69 Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1468	Posted - 2014.01.25 18:09:00 - [44] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Said it before, the RR shouldn't be out DPSing long-range weapons like the MD and Laser, while losing nothing in CQC compared to the other 2. Yes but the combat rifle is better at range than the ascr and last I checked it shouldn't be. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 178	Posted - 2014.01.25 18:12:00 - [45] - Quote OMG I don't know how to counter the rr OMG I don't know how to adapt and overcome it needs a Nerf wahhhhhhhhh The best part of waking up, is whiskey in my cuuuuup!
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1554	Posted - 2014.01.25 18:15:00 - [46] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Said it before, the RR shouldn't be out DPSing long-range weapons like the MD and Laser, while losing nothing in CQC compared to the other 2. Yes but the combat rifle is better at range than the ascr and last I checked it shouldn't be. Depends. The Assault Scrambler Rifle is supposed to be like the Assault Rifle, but just the Amarr variant of it. Therefore it's meant to be rather short range and it does have a shorter optimal than the Combat Rifle (but slightly longer effective range though). The Combat Rifle is supposed to be longer range than the Assault Rifle and it can be expected to also be longer range than the Assault Scrambler Rifle. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers!
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 922	Posted - 2014.01.25 18:40:00 - [47] - Quote Just a thought; What if we increased the damage, increased the recoil of the gun to pretty high levels in so that one cannot do more than a burst from the RR (maybe 7 shots) before it recoils wildly. But to ensure that it is still the king of long range combat make it so that, like the Sniper, the RR is immensely precise and steady when crouched and aiming down the sights But honestly all the rifles are powerful and to counter the RR you simply have to either move in and out of cover or disrupt their aim by rushing and clever strafing, although the latter is usually less effective when going against a skilled or damage heavy operator The Sinwarden
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 691	Posted - 2014.01.25 18:50:00 - [48] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: High alpha and high range weapons must never, ever, EVER have anything near CQC weapons DPS. It's just broken, completely and stupidly broken. Just a reminder. Its a caldari weapon. all caldari weapons have very high damage and very long range. learn the lore before you talk trash. Im guessing you know nothing about eve? Dust 514 is just like eve. especially when it comes to weapons and suits.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1556	Posted - 2014.01.25 18:52:00 - [49] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: Its a caldari weapon. all caldari weapons have very high damage and very long range. learn the lore before you talk trash. Im guessing you know nothing about eve? Dust 514 is just like eve. especially when it comes to weapons and suits. He never said it shouldn't have high damage, just not high DPS. Learn to read before attacking him? Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers!
Waiyu Ren Immortal Guides 16	Posted - 2014.01.25 19:44:00 - [50] - Quote What if rather than nerfing it, it was simply made more skill intensive? Think about the ScrR: That first shot, if charged, is a serious king-hit if it hits and makes the follow up shots something that must be avoided to survive. I was thinking maybe reduce the minimum spool time and damage slightly, but shots are only fired once the trigger is released. The longer you spool, the more rounds are loaded into the chamber. Skilled users could still feather the trigger in CqC, and its Alpha against targets you've had under your crosshair for 3-4 seconds would make it a fist of god.... IF you were skilled enough to land the shot. If it had pinpoint accuracy, but needed to be feathered and had a small spool-time, that would make it pretty tricky to land shots in CqC i think. But it should be evil at mid-long. I mean think about what railguns can do in real life.... They turn the inside of a tank into a friggin juicer....

sira draco Ancient Erectiles 48	Posted - 2014.01.25 19:46:00 - [51] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: High alpha and high range weapons must never, ever, EVER have anything near CQC weapons DPS. It's just broken, completely and stupidly broken. Just a reminder. I agree, because the rail rifle is full auto it can still be used in CQC, same with the AR
sira draco Ancient Erectiles 48	Posted - 2014.01.25 19:47:00 - [52] - Quote Waiyu Ren wrote: What if rather than nerfing it, it was simply made more skill intensive? Think about the ScrR: That first shot, if charged, is a serious king-hit if it hits and makes the follow up shots something that must be avoided to survive. I was thinking maybe reduce the minimum spool time and damage slightly, but shots are only fired once the trigger is released. The longer you spool, the more rounds are loaded into the chamber. Skilled users could still feather the trigger in CqC, and its Alpha against targets you've had under your crosshair for 3-4 seconds would make it a fist of god.... IF you were skilled enough to land the shot. If it had pinpoint accuracy, but needed to be feathered and had a small spool-time, that would make it pretty tricky to land shots in CqC i think. But it should be evil at mid-long. I mean think about what railguns can do in real life.... They turn the inside of a tank into a friggin juicer.... I agree, and also do away with aim assist
Fenrir XIII Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 17	Posted - 2014.01.25 19:54:00 - [53] - Quote Take away the hipfire crosshairs.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2812	Posted - 2014.01.25 19:55:00 - [54] - Quote Seriously how many times you going to make this type of thread? Just bump the old thread. These threads crying for the nerf of RR are highly self centered. It's rail technology and its expected to have a high rate of DPS. If you think its should be nerfed because you get wrecked in CQC, then maybe you need to buff your approach to a RR user. This is beyond idiotic and down right annoying Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5964	Posted - 2014.01.25 20:03:00 - [55] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: Cat Merc wrote: High alpha and high range weapons must never, ever, EVER have anything near CQC weapons DPS. It's just broken, completely and stupidly broken. Just a reminder. Its a caldari weapon. all caldari weapons have very high damage and very long range. learn the lore before you talk trash. Im guessing you know nothing about eve? Dust 514 is just like eve. especially when it comes to weapons and suits. Are you serious? I'm not saying that high alpha and high range is wrong, I'm saying that high alpha, high range AND high DPS is broken. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2812	Posted - 2014.01.25 20:03:00 - [56] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: High alpha and high range weapons must never, ever, EVER have anything near CQC weapons DPS. It's just broken, completely and stupidly broken. Just a reminder. So what do you want a nerf In DMG or hip fire? If DMG then the rof should be nerfed of the combat rifle. It's range is to much for its rof. Intelligence spotted. CR is a deadly weapon but I'm not turning on the faucets about that. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5964	Posted - 2014.01.25 20:05:00 - [57] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Seriously how many times you going to make this type of thread? Just bump the old thread. These threads crying for the nerf of RR are highly self centered. It's rail technology and its expected to have a high rate of DPS. If you think its should be nerfed because you get wrecked in CQC, then maybe you need to buff your approach to a RR user. This is beyond idiotic and down right annoying On the contrary, Rail technology is supposed to have LOW DPS. It's blasters that are supposed to have high DPS, which would be the Assault Rifle. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2814	Posted - 2014.01.25 20:35:00 - [58] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Seriously how many times you going to make this type of thread? Just bump the old thread. These threads crying for the nerf of RR are highly self centered. It's rail technology and its expected to have a high rate of DPS. If you think its should be nerfed because you get wrecked in CQC, then maybe you need to buff your approach to a RR user. This is beyond idiotic and down right annoying On the contrary, Rail technology is supposed to have LOW DPS. It's blasters that are supposed to have high DPS, which would be the Assault Rifle. LOL!! Yet, you were one of the ones complaining about the DPS on the ARs. C'mon man...who are you fooling here? So what happened? You dying too fast? It's not like how it used to be for you? So you want the weapon to adapt to you since you won't adapt? Negative effect on your gameplay does not equal nerf to the weapon that demolishes you. Throw some dirt on it Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Espartoi Zero-Day Attack Zero-Day 20	Posted - 2014.01.25 20:49:00 - [59] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Seriously how many times you going to make this type of thread? Just bump the old thread. These threads crying for the nerf of RR are highly self centered. It's rail technology and its expected to have a high rate of DPS. If you think its should be nerfed because you get wrecked in CQC, then maybe you need to buff your approach to a RR user. This is beyond idiotic and down right annoying On the contrary, Rail technology is supposed to have LOW DPS. It's blasters that are supposed to have high DPS, which would be the Assault Rifle. LOL!! Yet, you were one of the ones complaining about the DPS on the ARs. C'mon man...who are you fooling here? So what happened? You dying too fast? It's not like how it used to be for you? So you want the weapon to adapt to you since you won't adapt? Negative effect on your gameplay does not equal nerf to the weapon that demolishes you. Throw some dirt on it If i just need that red bandana to be a futurist Rambo. Don't destroy the new weapons only becuase people knows how to use it. You think that everything must be like you want and all is unfair? the answer is simple as Deal with it or GTFO.
Zerus Ni'Kator Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 148	Posted - 2014.01.25 20:51:00 - [60] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: High alpha and high range weapons must never, ever, EVER have anything near CQC weapons DPS. It's just broken, completely and stupidly broken. Just a reminder. Your missing the SCR as well in that case Can't nerf 1 without nerfing the other



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